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Nintendo Reveals Wii U's Miiverse Social Network
chrb writes "Nintendo has announced that its new Wii U console will feature a social network called the Miiverse in which users can video chat, see what others are playing, share game content and swap tips." And with a nod to Zawinski's Law, "The redesigned Wii U GamePad features dual sticks, a touch screen that supports finger and stylus interaction, motion and gyroscope sensors, and the ability to act as a TV remote. The Wii U GamePad has its own dedicated Web browser and can share images and video to a TV so that everyone can enjoy the shared content."
As long as you're invoking Zawinski's Law, where's the email client?
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Er, the machine isn't even out yet. And it probably won't come with a bowling game.
Did you, perhaps, mean the Wii? If so, you're sadly mistaken. There aren't _as many_ Wii titles I consider Fantastic Games as some other platforms, but there are still quite a few really damned good games.
I'm gonna start this thread with some good 'ol flamebaiting. Well kinda.
I think Nintendo lost their relevance. They owned casual with the Wii. They failed to realize casual gamers are just that: casual. They have no allegiance. Words with friends on their iPhone is good enough now. Or Cut the Rope. They don't feel the need to buy a second box when their smartphone is good enough and games cost $1 or free.
People have moved on. Adding more gyroscopes or screens wont' help.
But that's an observation. But I have my bias. I moved on from Nintendo after I played Mario Kart 96 and Zelda 47.
The Wii U GamePad has its own dedicated Web browser and can share images and video to a TV so that everyone can enjoy the shared content.
Sounds like a good resource for getting First Goatse photos. You could do it with your whole family!
Some people apparently only want a system if it has HD graphics. Because, you know, all that crapware and those old-school emulated games look so much better in HD. And BRB, no-scoping some noobs that said they slept with my mother.
Please. I want fun games. How about these:
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess was amazing. The sound of arrows going from your controller to the screen... genius.
Warioware was great for springing on your unsuspecting friends.
Mario Galaxy was a head trip every time gravity wasn't straight down.
Geometry Wars with point-at-the-screen action... zen.
Super Smash Brothers Brawl: Best in series IMO.
Emulating a zillion classic console games flawlessly? Check. That classic controller.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the friendship killer. Good times. For me.
Let's just conveniently forget about Wii Music, the Kirby yarn game, Chocobo Dungeon, and the horribly botched Monkey Ball game... yikes, that game played like it had absolutely no QA.
The Wii was all family friendly and then late horrific rated M games like House of the Head Overkill where every third word was a swear word. That shocked everyone but it was to attract hardcore gamers. Who are they trying to attract with video chat? People banned from chat roulette? I'm sure the creators of that were thinking "oh boy, people will connect and learn about other cultures and there might be a weirdo or two but otherwise it'll basically be 99% Starbucks customers. WRONG! Freaks and pervs aren't outside in public being social, they're inside on their PC and Wii so I'm sure the video chat will be shut down. The only question is, before or after the class action law suit by parents?
So which incumbent social media giant will drag Nintendo into litigation over patent infringement first?
Yes, it's 2012. You could make that argument in 2005 when it was released. Watching the Wii on a HDTV now is *just painful.* And millions of people who play online via PSN or Live are just worthless because "real men play single player." You do know there are normal people who do like to play online you know.
As for the fun. I'm tired of /. writing that crap. There are tons of fun games on the other consoles as well. Shadow complex for 360. Fun as hell, just like Metroid was. Dead Space: the fun is in how scary it is. Getting caught up in a gripping story of Alone in the Dark is fun. Working as a team and successfully flanking and overtaking an objective in BF3 is fun. Geometry wars IIRC is on both 360 and PS3 too you know. Trials HD? More fun than excitebike for the NES! You can't tell me L4D killing zombies isn't fun. Tomb Raider Guardian of Light or whatever it's called. 2.5D hanging on by a thread aerial platforming at it's best. Emulating games? I played NES games on a NES. Not saying they're not fun and if someone hasn't played them yet, they shouldn't. But c'mon, we've all played them already.
So no, I want games to be fun AND look good. Good graphics IS a requirement for a console. Otherwise, it has little value added over an iPhone someone already has and is satisfied with playing "Punch the Monkey" TM
At first I read it as "Nintendo Reveals Wii U's Metooverse Social Network", so I took a closer look, and yup. I read it right.
No, as in piss on you.
Watching the Wii on a HDTV now is *just painful.*
Just plugging it into a modern TV can be difficult. The stock composite cables produce a pathetic image with distortion all over the place. You need component to even do 480p. Not having a HDMI port is terrible, I bought a more expensive AV receiver with component inputs specifically to accommodate my Wii.
Low resolution in a cartoon-y Mario game is fine. Lack of connectivity isn't.
I thought the same thing about the iPad. Never overestimate the average consumer's taste.
I think the thing we should not overestimate is the intelligence of the Slashdot technoratii, who are miffed there is some corner of technology they cannot lord over others, and that average people can actually make significant use of computing devices. How unfair!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Didn't know that. Learn something new every day.
Tho as a side note, you have to agree that, as I'm sure u know already, once you play a game at max settings at native 1080p resolution (or higher), it's *really* tough to go back, regardless of the game.
Perfect example is even let's compare it to Mario directly: play trine 2 on the pc at max settings and 1080p, and then go to the ps3. It hurts. Or even psychonauts, a cartoony game, that while is ancient, looks so much better because at 1080p resolution it's crisp and clear.
It's questionable if MS and Sony have really come out ahead of this or not given the systems cost. The only real reason why MS and Sony aren't releasing a new system this year is that they still haven't made up for all the losses they incurred from the last round.
If Nintendo ever fixes its issue with 3rd party developers then Sony and MS will have to worry since that is the only thing making their system relevant enough to stay in the market. Their 1st party development is lack luster and Nintendo can practically print money without the aid of 3rd parties.
They have only had ONE year with an operational loss. Look at what's happened in Japan in the last year tsunami/nuclear disaster, Every major industry in Japan has been in the red.
To add to your flaimbait. You have to be retarded and ignorant of the history to make the claim that Nintendo will be irrelevant. They've ether been irrelevant for the last 20 year or they haven't been and probably won't be.
Think of it as Stickam with a hardware dongle?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Let's just conveniently forget about [...] the Kirby yarn game
What's wrong with the kirby yarn game? It's obviously meant for kids and, as such, I think it's a great design. As a kid's platformer, I don't really see what more people could be asking for.
One of the reasons the Wii sold was a gimmick. People were interested in the "wave the stick" around method of control. They bought it because it seemed cool, and wasn't too expensive. However that was a gimmick over all. Notice there's been no massive rush to a similar system the world over. That is because it really isn't that great. For a few games you find it is a superior method for control, but for the more part it is just different. Instead of pressing a button to do X, you make a certain motion. Ok, fine, whatever. Nothing revolutionary though.
Also like most gimmicks, it fades with time. The novelty wears off and it actually can become rather annoying. Like in Zelda it was a real pain to have to keep doing that sweep motion to do a spin attack rather than just press a "spin attack" button. That aside once the novelty wears off you are left with a below average console. It doesn't support HDTVs, it doesn't have full surround support (just Pro Logic), the graphics are pretty low level.
As such in the long run it has been sputtering out a bit. Ok fine again no big deal. Nintendo made a lot of money on it and that's really all they need to do. It was a success... However it really isn't a success to try and emulate.
Well that's what they are trying to do. Rather than make a solid console and market that, they are again going for a gimmick, this time with the whole silly "tablets as controllers" thing. I just don't see it working. For one, it is rare for the love of a gimmick to strike a second time around since it is as much luck with what consumers happen to be interested in as anything. Then there's the fact that tablets aren't novel to consumers. They are all over the damn place.
Motion control was novel. Most people had never seen anything like the Wiimote. It wasn't new actually, Gyration made mice that were motion control mice for a long time (no need for an optical sensor either). However it was new to the public. So that made the gimmick more interesting. They'd never seen it and wanted to play with it.
Tablets though, well just look at Apple's balance sheet, that'll tell you all you need to know about how many consumers have encountered tablets. It isn't something that'll make them say "Oh I need to try that!" since most of them have already tried it (and may indeed own a tablet).
I think the Wii U is going to flop on account of that. It's hoping for success on a gimmick, like the Wii had, and I don't think that'll work twice around.
If you squint your eyes, the E3 logo in the /. summary looks like Bart Simpson.
Wow, it's very social. I can watch others, others can watch me, and we can, I don't know, trade stuff and... and...
Yeah, I'll stick with MAME.
I haven't run into an HDTV that doesn't have component yet, but I can see that not having the same connector as everything else makes using a switchbox or receiver a pain.
These guys http://www.neoya.com/shop/wii2hdmi sell a Wii to HDMI adapter gizmo for thirty bucks. Might be worth it just to simplify cabling.
And BRB, no-scoping some noobs that said they slept with my mother.
There is only one reason that applies more to the 360 and PS3 and not the wii. And that is because the wii wouldn't let you talk to the people you were playing with online. It has nothing to do with anything other than nintendo didn't put that feature on the wii.
But they seem to have included it on the wii U, so you nintendo fans will also get to experience preteens with high voices excitedly jabbering on voice chat about how they slept with your mother.
I've never owned a console (hmm, actually dad had some old thing once that had variations of Pong), and I haven't seen the need to downgrade to a one since I have a perfectly good PC to play games on, but now that I have small kids I've been thinking on Wii, since it actually brings something different to the table from PC games and should have plenty of suitable games for kids too. Only problem for me has been the SD graphics. I don't think I'm big snob about the graphics, but since the only screen I have is 130" projector screen I just wish it could do at least 720p. So I think I'll wait for this new console and see if it'll convince me to try it.
sure, just email your friend your 15 digit friend code and then if you want to play a game together simply email your 15 digit game code! you can even share a picture or a comment by exchanging a simple 15 digit post code! the future is now!
This is a joke. I am joking. Joke joke joke.
Lmao. It's extremely comical how your list of examples is also the exact same list of "The ONLY games worth playing on the Wii."
Fanboys are hilarious. I will wait for you to wrongly accuse me of being a 13 year old call of duty player.
I know you're trolling, but how about:
Mad World, Metroid M, All Metroid Primes, Zack & Wiki, New Kirby, No More Heroes, Mario Kart, Mario Parties, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Excite Truck, New Goldeneye, Muramasa, Punch Out, Paper Mario, Trauma Center and other shit that I can't name off the top of my head.
There were some other "out of the box" games I really liked on the Wii as well. Boom Blox was a blast, finally you can throw rocks and balls at stacks of things without making a mess in the house or having to clean it up again (and having your parents yell at you for damaging the room like when you were a kid). I got a huge kick out of No More Heroes as well, totally off the wall concept and well executed with the motion controls.
I picked up a VGA cable on Ebay for $20 for the Wii and tied it in to my projector with that. Looks pretty nice, and I'm sure you could do the same with a TV and just tie the audio to your receiver. Of course you'll have to press an extra button on a remote to get over to the Wii though.
Old school games do look much better in high resolution graphics with proper post processing. I recently played Persona 4 on a PS2 and PCSX2 emulator side by side when demonstrating this to a friend who was of the same opinion as you. The difference was astounding even though the original material is exactly the same and just rendered in (much) higher resolution with a couple of post-filters applied to it on the emulator. The game simply looked much prettier, which did wonders to enjoyment of the title where artistic approach to many things counts for a lot of presentation like it does in Persona games.
Great game play is good to have, but it can only carry you so far. Presentation is equally if not more important in many cases.
Here in Europe we already have a car called the "Mii"
No sig today...
Yeah ... well the Wii doesn't have your requirement of a steady diet of blood and guts. Let me guess. You don't have a family. In fact I'll go on to guess that you will *never* have a family. Please don't respond. Like all the loser 12-30 year olds in game chat that pretend they have a 'girlfriend' or 'wife' and 'family'
No, it's not. Believe me, I know, I've got both a PS3 and a Wii hooked on a HD TV. I can go back and forth between those consoles and feel no pain. Yes, games on the PS3 look much better, but I don't get to play less on the Wii because of that. Then again, I'm one of those old-schoolers that played on the Atari 2600 and NES, so I'm not in it for the looks, I'm in it for the fun. Go figure.
"real men play single player."
This is Slashdot, where all the men play "single player".
All of the Nintendo haters need to calm down. I started playing Nintendo at the age of 6 or 7. When I was that age we WERE Nintendos customers. Most importantly we could actually play the games Nintendo was putting out. Now that I'm a father, and stick my son in front of any console on the market that's not a Nintendo and expect them to play a game? It's impossible. In fact, anyone that isn't a 16-35yr old male that's played video games for most of their life is going to have trouble grasping most games these days. Nintendo realized that and hence the WII. My kids can play it. My mom can play it. There's nothing wrong with that. This is what Nintendo always was. They realized that if they kept chasing the other console companies the industry would eventually paint itself into a corner. Is it for the hardcore gamer that plays nothing but FPS all day? No... but that's ok. There's room for what they've done... a lot of room.
My PS3 obviously has awesome levels of detail on a 40 inch HDTV but the Wii certainly doesn't look painful. It looks just fine.
What's the point of even fighting over whether the Wii is HD or not? The system is at the end of its life and it's successor (Wii U) has HD.
There were a lot of other games which I found worth playing (I didn't get around to any of the games on that list):
Metroid Prime: Collector's Trilogy --- amazing repacking of 3 classic games w/ new motion controls which add quite a bit of depth to the game
The Conduit --- the first person shooter for the Wii
Goldeneye --- Amazing remake which is even better for having motion controls and Wii Zapper support
Red Steel 2 --- the first game to make use of the Wii Motion Plus and get swordplay as more than a simulation (I'm looking at you Wii Sports Resort) right
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword --- the ultimate action adventure game w/ swordplay, archery and more
If Xenoblade Chronicles had been available first quarter in North America, Nintendo probably would've been profitable --- still waiting to see how The Last Story sells (though I'm still raging about the developer not having an option of using IR aiming for the crossbow in that) and really wish Pandora's Tower would come to NA.
William
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Oh boy, I sure wish I had other people preventing me from doing things I like whenever I'm home, that's the life I want for me.
Zack & Wiki
Except the "Wiki" part was misleading. Because it was for a console, players could not edit the levels, unlike every single other "Wiki" out there. Even LittleBigPlanet for PS3 reportedly had more Wiki than Zack & Wiki.
Oh wait, no, I mean the other thing, they totally HAVEN'T changed gaming. Only a few titles even use them, even less use them in any sort of real fashion, and those that do use them in a real fashion are often gimmick type games.
Ya, MS and Sony hopped on the bandwagon because the Wii was doing well (though for Kinect that's arguable, they started developing it in 2005). However neither have made a splash gaming wise. By and large games continue to be controller based as they've always been.
Sales figures back this up too. There've been 67 million 360s sold, but only 18 million Kinects, and more than a couple of those were sold for research using Windows, not the Xbox. Likewise back in the day the Wii outsold the other consoles considerably, to the point it is still the sole most sold of this generation (though the PS2 is the most sold over all) but lately both the PS3 and the 360 have been outselling the Wii individually.
The Wii was a success financially, and as with most successful gimmicks it got people interested in the gimmick. However it clearly is a gimmick as it is fading fast. I mean if it really were such a revolutionary method for gaming, why wouldn't the Wii U be all about it? Why would there be a completely different kind of controller? While yes the new tablet does have a gyroscope and accelerometer in it, it is very much not designed for motion control. It is designed for touch screen and for classical stick control.
I haven't run into an HDTV that doesn't have component yet
Part of the problem is that Nintendo uses a proprietary connector that no one else uses. Remember the old saw about Monster cables being overpriced? It's not true on the Wii. Monster's component cable for the Wii was cheaper than Nintendo's.
Nintendo did a better job of locking down the DSi and 3DS than it did the DS and Wii. I don't see Linux or any other copylefted software getting ported to Nintendo platforms any time soon.
It was more the point of the poster repeating the same old meme of "graphics aren't important! games must be fun!" and they use this same line over and over to justify purchasing something with shitty graphics. Nevermind the fact that games can have great graphics AND fun.
The problem isn't Microsoft (360) and Sony (PS3). The problem is Kodak. As an analog imaging company, Kodak was at the top of its class. Then the world slowly turned digital, but Kodak refused to go with the flow.
Nintendo's rivals aren't so Microsoft and Sony as the whole gadget ecosystem. As smartphone, tablet, and maybe even (Google) glasses become more powerful, there go the developers. So unless Nintendo transforms the Wii into a gaming cum kitchensink platform, it's in danger of becoming extinct. This is perhaps the motivation behind the Miiverse.
The think was, the phone, even if purchased that day brand new, had a lower dollar value than a Nintendo DS with a dozen games.
Including the ETF that you'd pay for not having a 24-month voice and data contract? It took three years for Android to get a serious competitor to the iPod touch.
"The redesigned Wii U GamePad features dual sticks, a touch screen that supports finger and stylus interaction, motion and gyroscope sensors, and the ability to act as a TV remote. The Wii U GamePad has its own dedicated Web browser and can share images and video to a TV so that everyone can enjoy the shared content."
But no bottle opener. For shame.
It also has text and picture comments...so you also get trolled by dick doodles and racist pictures
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Er.... I have other things to do than continue to list games? There are quite a few other system-exclusive titles that were good. And it would be easy to make a list for any system, but this one was in scope at the moment.
Sorry to disappoint. Carry on... you might want to change your sig though, it doesn't match the things you post.
Oblig me-too fanboy attack:
Why don't you just change your name to Wiilliam?
Well, let's see. It needs more blood, to be mature. It needs 1080p graphics with lots of tessalation and megaquadrapixels (sublinear lighting is a plus). It needs voice chat, sounds can rage at other people's yarns. It needs to use an xbox360 controller. It needs to use a new franchise character that's never been seen before. It needs 64 player coop and CTF modes (preferably at an extra charge). It needs a he'll difficulty level that I can't beat, so I can rage that it cheats.
Probably more too.
That's all, not much more.
Regarding HDTV, that's interesting and possibly true. I still have an older CRT HDTV, and it looks wonderful on there. CRTs looked good at different resolutions, which is something LCD panels just don't do well. I could see that argument. It's disappointing that such an expensive HD panel would upscale incoming SD content so poorly.
Geometry Wars was one of the first killer apps for the XBOX. The Wii version is my favorite version - it's a real must-experience, IMO.
I play a whole bunch of online games on my PC, which has a keyboard, which is mandatory IMO for online games. So I have that already, I just wanted something to add to that and the Wii fit the bill very well. I also don't NEED a game to be online-enabled to enjoy it. (Thank you, Diablo III.) Some games are good single player experiences. There is nothing wrong with enjoying all different kinds of games, surely other gamers would agree. I don't get the singleplayer vs. online arguments that pretend there are no other options... there is another option: local multiplayer. When I play multiplayer, I prefer it if my friends are actually in the room, which does happen regularly. Who doesn't remember getting friends together for something like Goldeneye or Smash?
Some of us couldn't afford the old-school games when they were new. So it's been nice to finally be able to play those classics. So many games, so little time, though.
Yeah, there are other games on other systems that are fun. That's not the point. The point is that some games on THIS system are good and lots of fun, and this system fills a niche very well. I'm going to keep having fun, regardless of whether it gets anyone's bile up.
You've got a point, it would make a good game for the under-13 audience. I guess I was expecting it to be more of a challenging game that adults could enjoy too, since I have always enjoyed Kirby games.
Let's see if i've got this all figured out.
Nintendo: Kiddie games, outdated tech, milk their franchises to death (unlike the franchises of all the other companies which are handled _totally_ responsibly.)
Sony: Overpriced, installs rootkits and disables components of their systems after you've already bought them, gives your credit card number away to hackers.
Microsoft: The original borg, convicted monopolist and patent troll, Windows sucks and the XBox keeps suffering hardware failures.
Apple: The new borg, walled garden and patent troll, designed for hipsters.
Linux: The one true system, but ported games are frequently buggy and often just don't work at all. (This is of course all the fault of the people who made the games.)
I guess as a responsible geek i'm not supposed to be playing any games at all?
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http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii-Linux
I admit that I mistyped. I meant to say "ported to newer Nintendo platforms", as I tried to imply with my mention of a poor "job of locking down [...] the DS and Wii". I'm aware that Linux has been ported to DS and Wii, just not to DSi or 3DS without using the DS backward-compatibility mode.
Already had Linux on my 3DS for roughly three months.
Is it the version that runs in DS backward-compatibility mode using a 3DS compatible DS flash card? If so, it can see only the 4 MB of RAM available to DS programs.
You mean you haven't already figured out the Wii's pinouts and built your own set of component cables?
In the real world, having a connector manufactured to fit the connector costs money.
What the hell kinda geek/nerd are you?
As CronoCloud has repeatedly explained to me on this board, geeks alone do not a market make. Video game consoles are aimed at the mass market, not geeks who have probably already set up a PC as a monitor anyway.
Excite truck is good? Have the excite Trick Bot racer game and I'm still playing that one.
I drank what? -- Socrates
Nintendo had a large number of 3rd-party developers announcing games for the Wii U at the last E3 --- lots of 3rd party devs:
- Electronic Arts
- Ubisoft
- Vigil Games
- Rocksteady Studios
- Codemasters
- Sega
- Namco Bandai Games
- Team Ninja
- Slightly Mad Studios
Probably there are more --- I only found one title announced at E3 which was withdrawn (Metro: Last Light by THQ)...
Hoping for a version of Rocksmith for the Wii U.
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
"New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the friendship killer. Good times. For me."
Friendship killer. So true. Let's not forget, if you are playing with your wife, you might as well expect to sleep on the couch that night. The good news is if your relationship can get through that game you can get through anything.
And it (iPad) doesn't run Linux.
Oh really?
I don't see why people continue to think that a device that is physically in hand can have any lasting restrictions whatsoever for the technically inclined. So it is, so shall it always be. That's why complaints that any given device is "locked down" is so laughable.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Exactly this. HD makes a huge difference, regardless of graphics.
Playing Mario Kart 64 on my HDTV from an emulator actually looks much better than Mario Kart Wii.
Agree with the coward: I have Wii and PS3 hooked up to a 42 inch HDTV. It may help that it's plasma instead of LCD, but we have no problems - and while I'm old school, my kids aren't - and they like it just fine.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
Damn straight! I refuse to play Pong in anything less than 1920 x 1280 with full surround sound!
All men in slashdot are real men.
It really isnt though, I just finally got around to hacking my OG xbox and I have been spending more time playing games from around 85 to 95 than anything new, Last new game I bought was forza on 360 dialo 3 on PC, but I have been using more free time to play mario bro 3 and sonic the hedgehog and I enjoy it just as much now as anything new
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Now that you mention that, the only time I've run into anyone on the nintendo DS chat channel that I didn't already know (in an attempt to set up a multiplayer game)... it was two little kids who just scrawled misspelled curses.
I dont think anyone made an argument that games cant have both, Simply that a game with great grafix can suck balls, just as games without good grafix can be amazing. a link to the past? by todays standards the grafix suck. but the game is still just as good as it was 20 years ago. And lets not also forget the fact that at release PS3 was 600 bucks while the wii could be had for 250. the gap has shrunk but "good enough grafix" and good games for a reasonable price, how can ya complain?
plus this is slashdot, I thought giving M$ and $ony our money was bad and nintendo was good.....
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
I recommend shatter if that's your thing.
u mad bro?
The point is simply that we shouldnt HAVE to jump through hoops to do thats that were trivial years ago
You don't have to. You can buy some other device where it is still trivial to do whatever.
But for the good of the VAST majority of the population who does not want or need this ability, there should be an option for them to be able to buy devices where installing stuff like this is tricky, so they cannot mess it up. It is the ONLY way for computing to advance beyond adolescence and truly become prevalent in people's lives.
But the REAL point is that you can still do ANYTHING you want with any device, even if it's locked down. It does not matter in the end if it takes some extra work, because you only have to do that once and then you can continue to use the modified device as long as it lasts. Because the amount of extra work required to do this is in the end a tiny fraction of a percentage of the lifespan of the device, complaining is both pointless and really whiny.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Yes, they can have great graphics and be fun.. (e.g. God of War games, Ico, Uncharted games)
But I think they can be lots of fun even without the great graphics, even games I didn't play "back in the day".
I have a family, a girlfriend and friends. They're just not the sickeningly wholesome, Christian prudes that you tacitly describe yours as being.
You probably sit around with your family on weekend nights watching "America's Funniest Home Videos", don't you?
No, it's not. Believe me, I know, I've got both a PS3 and a Wii hooked on a HD TV. I can go back and forth between those consoles and feel no pain. Yes, games on the PS3 look much better, but I don't get to play less on the Wii because of that. Then again, I'm one of those old-schoolers that played on the Atari 2600 and NES, so I'm not in it for the looks, I'm in it for the fun. Go figure.
Same. I have all 3 systems and a 40" LCD. If you have the component cables and have it set to 480p it's fine.
Let me add to that list.
Rhythm Heaven Fever (also a great game to spring on your unsuspecting friends!), Sonic Colours, Samba de Amigo, Pandora's Tower, Drawn to Life, Dead Space, Xenoblade Chronicles. And then the Wiiware: Wario Ware DIY, Castlevania Rebirth, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years, Jett Rocket, And Yet It Moves, Mega Man 9 and 10...
People always keep saying that some consoles don't have good games, but then it turns out there's more than plenty of good games if you look hard enough.
I am not devoid of humor.
First, they boast at E3 that it is all about the games, and then announce Hulu and Netflix integration along with social networking features. Those are not games IMHO.
Second the Wii U tablet is absolutely retarded. Every picture I have seen looks huge in the hands of an "adult", how is some 5 year old going to hold on and use it for play? Nintendo has absolutely no concept of good industrial design. How Nintendo can release "that" monstrosity in the era of slick, ultra-thin tablets and phones is beyond me and screams of the fact that Nintendo obviously still assumes gamers are 5 - 13 years old. Nintendo remains the Fisher Price of gaming.
What is most underwhelming about Nintendo is that in spite of the huge windfall Nintendo received from Wii sales, they are now reporting financial losses and have obviously not invested that windfall into creating an innovative new product. They took a DS and turned it into a game controller and will offer a moderate update of the Wii and have to audacity to claim it a new generation of game console.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
You should check vgchartz sometime for a taste of reality.
Vgchartz will demonstrate:
1) game to console ratio on Wii is far lower than the other 2 (casual gamers don't game much, so it makes sense).
2) few games on the Wii get anywhere close to 1 million sales while a dozen or so have millions. That dozen is your list (please don't bother nitpicking some minor imperfection in this point).
There is a lot to learn about the global and national ways that 'gaming' goes on. Trends of many facets can easily be illustrated. For your entertainment, follow the ps3 vs 360 system sales, but attempt to visualize the fail rates, and you will see why the attach rates (game to console) on the ps3 have been much higher..... ps3 sales only passed 360 sales a bit over a year ago, but way more of the 360 sales are replacements for broken ones, and no new games are bought (same gamer). Thus, functional ps3s IN USE may actually have been a majority over 2.5 years ago.
Rockon.