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Samsung Focusing On Phone Software
itwbennett writes "With the much-acclaimed Galaxy SIII in its pocket, don't think that Samsung is looking at Amazon's success with the Kindle and Apple's success with its iOS devices and saying to themselves, 'No, we'd rather not have that kind of diverse revenue, we'll stick to razor-thin hardware margins,' writes blogger Kevin Purdy. And that's not the only reason that Samsung might decide the time is right to maintain its own OS, or at least an Android fork: There's also the looming spectre of Google-Motorola."
Another android fork just what we need.
Samsung already has their own OS, bada, and it's crap.
Forking Meego would be cool.
So Samsung has the rump of Meego in the form of Tizen... surely 3rd time lucky will give us the phone OS that will take mobile computing a huge step forward this time?
Mind you, they might just push Bada as well, and end up being the new Nokia.
I am wondering if other phone vendors will adopt it ? like on recent intel x86 mobiles phones ?
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So long as Samsung continues to be the sole producer of phones with SuperAMOLED+ screens, they've got my dollar secured. I'd much rather have those deep blacks than a Retina screen.
Of course if I was an Android user, I may be worried about Samsung creating their own fork which is almost guaranteed to be worse than vanilla. They may end up driving more users away with this than they'd gain.
- "Do you actually have anything of substance to write? This says 'slow news day by a lazy writer' all over the place to me."
- "It's click bait, something to get his numbers up and make it seem like he is being productive."
The article was interesting enough to make slashdot. (shrug)
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According to the Brookings Institute, if you follow 3 simple (stupid simple) rules you will have a 98% chance of never living in poverty.
The rules are:
1. Complete at least a high school education. No-charge public schooling means you CAN do this, no excuses.
2. After your education, get a job, any job. Stay at the job until a better one comes along. Harder to do these days but easier when you're not too proud to do service work or manual labor.
3. Don't get pregnant or become a father until you are married and at least 21 years old. No excuses there. We all know how babies happen. You can choose not to have them or not to have them yet. Ladies, get a bungee cord and put it around you knees if you just can't control yourself. Gentlemen, they're called rubbers, use them. Or abstain if you think you can but have a fucking back-up plan if this is your main plan because shit happens and this is important.
The 2% who wind up in poverty anyway are what you call "down on your luck". It makes perfect sense to have a safety net for those. There are more than 2% of people in poverty and that's because they make terrible decisions. Why is it so "offensive" to say so? You gotta get over your prissy little "wah cry cry I don't like how that sounds" and face reality if you want to actually get more people out of poverty. If you can't do that you are part of the problem.
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Not a threat if that means Motorola UI on Google hardware.
Exec 1: Congratulations! Between you and Apple, you have utter dominance in the mobile market! You're also more profitable than every other Android manufacturer in the world!
Exec 2: We are? Quick, stop what we're doing! Change everything! It's the only way we'll continue this success!
Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
Now I can honestly say that I like Samsung's hardware a lot. I have a HDTV from them and I own a Nexus S. The build quality's always solid, the designs are nice and the phone screens are lavish.
However, Samsung's never seemed to me to be even remotely competent with software. TouchWiz has been described as anything from mediocre to disastrous, especially now that Android's default UI (with ICS) is fairly sleek. Unless they have plans to entirely scrap that and hire a better software team, I don't see how they can expect to actually fork Android. They'd either lose on all the Google-provided updates or have to have an extensive integration process every time a new version comes out. This might work with revisions, but large changes (like say, the jump from Gingerbread/Honeycomb to ICS) would require tremendous amounts of work for little benefit, in the end. Not following the lead set by Google would mean trailing in API implementation, having to maintain their own development kits and tools, and probably fracturing the environment with them sticking out like a sore thumb. Android app devs already have enough of a headache supporting three concurrent OS versions.
They're better off taking advantage of Google's platform. I doubt they'll change it much with the Motorola acquisition, which was in large part a land grab in the patent war. At worst, Samsung will lose their privileged Nexus maker status, which while important in terms of image doesn't translate into that many sales.
Is this gonna be another Wintel thing? Because I can't think of a good portmanteau. Gooola? Motogle? Androla? Mandroid? Motoroid? (Wow, that last one sounds horrific.)
I really don't understand. While other manufacturers like HTC have been working to reduce the footprint of their UI over Android, Samsung wants to increase it? I have a Galaxy Nexus and I absolutely love it. But I wouldn't have bought it if it had included their old Touchwiz UI which generally was considered the worst out of the three major manufacturers. Vanilla ICS is a great experience and leaps leaps over previous versions. However the new UI on the Galaxy III looks even more intrusive and has pretty much generated nothing but mocking on Android fan sites. It seems as if Samsung is taking a step back. And while the Google/Motorola thing might be on their minds, Google has done nothing but signal that the deal is about patents and Motorola won't be favored. Most recently this has been signaled by the fact that they want to open the Nexus program to all manufacturers rather then doing what they've done in the past and just picking one.
Now I know why I installed another 200 VoIP phones in Samsung's Bellevue, Washington offices.
-- I have a private email server in my basement.
Samsung wants to make their own OS, which will be miles behind iOS, or Android, in applications. And this will be a hot seller, why? Consider windows, webos, blackberry playbook; all decent OSes, where are they now?
The "razor thin hardware margins" makes no sense either. Samsung will not be able to sell their phones, or tablets, for more because they have a different OS (that has way less apps).
Samsung will not even be able to avoid msft/apple patent trolling.
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This is excellent news! I love my Galaxy S3 and I will be sure to put my dollars towards HTC in the future if this occurs. Ensuring a competitive marketplace.
I have 0 interest in one manufacturers own fork, I'm done with that.
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For some of us who have older S's (1.5 years) Samsung needs to support their phones like Apple does. Get us the updates.
If you need to look at how well Samsung can fail in their own software look at Kies. Poor platform support apart from Windows. Poor older phone support. Come on Samusung get with the big boys. Not everyone can upgrade every year. remind us why we should be loyal.
DRM? No thanks, I'll just get it somewhere else...
Yeah, it would be forking awesome! Samsung would be the biggest forking company in the world!
Steve Jobs would be rolling in his forking grave!! IT WOULD BE FORKING INCREDIBLE!!!
OLD ------ NEW(???)
AT&T ------ Google
POSIX/C2 ------ SE Android
IBM AIX, SunOS, DEC Ultrix, et al ------ Samsung Galaxy, LG Optimus, HTC EVO, et al
BSD ------ BSDroid (no shit: http://bsdroid.org/
Since HP has open sourced webOS (or in the works anyways), that would be a great platform for Samsung to build on, to piss off Google, Apple, and Microsoft...
problem: we need to make more money on our phones.
solution: get rid of the OS that is constantly being updated for free by a company that knows how to do s/w development and pay to do the same thing ourselves, only much worse.
What idiotic hubris. Samsung dont know anything about writing s/w they are a h/w company. Suicide.
everyone i know just wipes it and loads up the android stock Ice Cream Sandwich(currently) and loads the software they want.
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About six months ago, I was overexerting myself trying to get rid of a terrible virus on a client's PC (I own a PC repair shop and have been fixing computers for over 10 years). Given my level of expertise, I thought I'd be able to get rid of it fairly quickly and without hassle, but as was made evident by my colossal failure, I was horribly, horribly wrong.
I couldn't remove the virus no matter what method I used. I tried all the latest anti-virus software and all the usual tricks, but it was all in vain. Failure after failure, my life was slowly being sucked away as I spent more and more of my time trying to get rid of this otherworldly virus.
Frustrated and stressed by my own failure, I began distancing myself from my wife and children. After a few days, I began verbally abusing them, and it eventually escalated into physical abuse. I was slowly losing what remaining sanity I had left. If this had continued for much longer, it is highly probable that I would have committed suicide. A mere shell of what I once was, I barricaded myself in my bedroom and cried myself to sleep for days on end.
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A few weeks ago, I foolishly ran a strange executable file that one of my acquaintances sent me by email. As someone who doesn't know much about computers, at the time, I thought nothing of it. "Why would my acquaintance want to hurt me?" Following this line of thought, I ran the file without question.
How naive I was. Despite having what was supposedly the best anti-virus software out right then, a virus took over my computer and held it hostage. It was pretending to be a warning from Windows telling me to buy some strange anti-virus software I'd never heard of from a company I'd never heard of to remove the virus.
This immediately set alarm bells off in my head. "How could this happen? My anti-virus is supposed to be second to none!" Faced with this harsh reality, I decided to take it to a PC repair shop for repair. They gladly accepted the job, told me it'd be fixed in a few days, and sent me off with a smile.
A few days later, they called me and told me to come pick up my computer. At the time, I noticed that they sounded like whimpering animals, but I concluded that it must just be stress from work. When I arrived, they, with tears in their eyes, told me that the virus was so awful and merciless that they were unable to remove it. "Ah," I thought. "That must be why they sounded so frustrated and pathet
About six months ago, I was overexerting myself trying to get rid of a terrible virus on a client's PC (I own a PC repair shop and have been fixing computers for over 10 years). Given my level of expertise, I thought I'd be able to get rid of it fairly quickly and without hassle, but as was made evident by my colossal failure, I was horribly, horribly wrong.
I couldn't remove the virus no matter what method I used. I tried all the latest anti-virus software and all the usual tricks, but it was all in vain. Failure after failure, my life was slowly being sucked away as I spent more and more of my time trying to get rid of this otherworldly virus.
Frustrated and stressed by my own failure, I began distancing myself from my wife and children. After a few days, I began verbally abusing them, and it eventually escalated into physical abuse. I was slowly losing what remaining sanity I had left. If this had continued for much longer, it is highly probable that I would have committed suicide. A mere shell of what I once was, I barricaded myself in my bedroom and cried myself to sleep for days on end.
That's when it happened: I found MyCleanPC! I installed MyCleanPC right on the client's PC, ran a scan, and it immediately got rid of all the viruses without a single problem. MyCleanPC accomplished in record time what I was unable to accomplish after a full week. Wow! Such a thing!
MyCleanPC is outstanding! My client's computer is running faster than ever! I highly recommend you install MyCleanPC right this minuteness, run a scan, and then boost your PC speed in record time! MyCleanPC came through with flying colours where no one else could!
My client's response? "MyCleanPC totally cleaned up my system, and increased my speed!" All the PC repair professionals are using MyCleanPC to solve all of their problems. This should be reason enough for you to switch to MyCleanPC! It'll speed up your computer, rid it of all viruses, and you'll be able to work productively again! Wow!
Even if you're not having any obvious computer problems, you could still be in danger. That's why I very highly recommend that you still use MyCleanPC. After all, it will boost your PC & internet speed to levels you never would think are possible!
MyCleanPC: For a Cleaner, Safer PC.
-----------
A few weeks ago, I foolishly ran a strange executable file that one of my acquaintances sent me by email. As someone who doesn't know much about computers, at the time, I thought nothing of it. "Why would my acquaintance want to hurt me?" Following this line of thought, I ran the file without question.
How naive I was. Despite having what was supposedly the best anti-virus software out right then, a virus took over my computer and held it hostage. It was pretending to be a warning from Windows telling me to buy some strange anti-virus software I'd never heard of from a company I'd never heard of to remove the virus.
This immediately set alarm bells off in my head. "How could this happen? My anti-virus is supposed to be second to none!" Faced with this harsh reality, I decided to take it to a PC repair shop for repair. They gladly accepted the job, told me it'd be fixed in a few days, and sent me off with a smile.
A few days later, they called me and told me to come pick up my computer. At the time, I noticed that they sounded like whimpering animals, but I concluded that it must just be stress from work. When I arrived, they, with tears in their eyes, told me that the virus was so awful and merciless that they were unable to remove it. "Ah," I thought. "That must be why they sounded so frustrated and pathet
Every single piece of software branded 'samsung' is pure and utter crap.
Kies ? (cause you know, you need 3D accelerated directX to flash your firmware. Seriously the reason Kies does not work in a VM is because of some obscure 3D primitive)
TouchWiz ? (graphic shell on the phones. cause you know, I like my app menu to ressemble swiss cheese after removing an app)
Samsung App Store ? (yeah update yourself consuming my precious 3G. I need you to give me the non-functional ugly overpriced apps that already have an equivalent on Google Play).
Also let's be geniuses. Instead of perfectly working and tested filesystems like say ext4, let's use an obscure and proprietary filesystem (RFS) that make anything
laggy and lame (ok the intention is good. presumably its tailored for flash devices and offers a fat32 compatibility layer, but that seem pointless. I've had cheap usb keys as well as middle-price SSD using ext4 for years and I still need to see one wear out. It's not like samsung expect its phones to last 10 years anyway).
Note that all of the above are not buggy. They suck by design. I understand that their hardware is so good that cripling it with crappy software is their only way to be fair to the other phone makers but still...
(I'm not mentioning Odin since it's leaked software and presumably, unreliably flahsing phones is what they like to do internally on week-ends).
It's called Tizen, and Samsung and Intel are running it.
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"we'll stick to razor-thin hardware margins"
Samsung is nowhere close to a razor thing margin with their phones.
First of all the price of a samsung phone is quite close from the price of an Iphone. But there is a major difference, Apple is assembling part from different manufacturers where Samsung is using their own chips wherever possible. So they get every bit of margin that you can get from selling a phone (maring from the screen, the CPU, etc.), and this is nowhere thin.
So Samsung finally release a phone that hits all the marks, that reviewers and consumers go crazy for, that actually has decent software on it.
So OBVIOUSLY to maintain this level of success they should go and fork Android and create a crappy customized version that nobody wants... yeah, that makes PERFECT sense.
I think Samsung (and TFA's author) are seriously overestimating the appeal of Samsung's own apps. I've got an S3 (the first smartphone I've owned, because it's the first one I've ever really wanted) and the Samsung apps and features are just bloatware:
What I actually love about the S3 is that it runs ICS like a dream, has a nice large, bright, vibrant screen, lots of connectivity options and a reasonable battery life. That, and the best content of the Google Play store are what attracted me, not Samsung's own apps which range in quality from "ok" to "why even bother?".
This news is directly inline with Samsung's strategy to hire arguably the best android mod developer on the market, Steve "Cyanogen" Kondik. I would expect nothing less than a robust, efficient Android based OS from Samsung coming soon. If I buy another android, It will be Samsung for that reason.
They've demoed Tizen running Android software.
http://tablet-news.com/2012/05/13/first-tizen-tablet-runs-android-apps/