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Transplant Surgeon Called Dibs On Steve Jobs' Home

theodp writes "The Commercial Appeal reports that Dr. James Eason, the surgeon who performed Steve Jobs' liver transplant, found himself grilled at length Monday by Shelby County Commission members. The Univ. of Tennessee-Methodist Transplant Institute, which Eason heads, is in a bitter dispute over the distribution of human organs. Pressed for details by Commissioners West Bunker and Terry Roland about the 2009 liver transplant that Eason performed on the late Steve Jobs, Eason acknowledged that he's now living in the Memphis home that Jobs used during his convalescence. Bunker asked, "Was that a deal cut to get him a transplant here locally?" Eason: "I understand. It's a fair question. Absolutely not." Eason said a company lined up the housing for Jobs. "I took care of him and visited him in that home. And when I learned that it was going to be going on the market, I asked him, I asked the administrator of the LLC, if I could purchase it." So, is it time for Apple to shed some light on The Mystery of Steve Jobs' Memphis Mansion? It was reported that Apple lawyer George Riley, reportedly a friend of Eason's, helped Jobs with the arrangements for the Memphis mansion, which was acquired at a bargain price of $850,000 from the State of Tennessee by the mysterious LCHG, LLC on 3/26/2009. LCHG was formed on 3/17/2009, apparently just days before Jobs received his liver (on 3/21/2010, Jobs noted he was coming up on the 1-year anniversary of his transplant). Records show that title to the mansion was transferred to Eason in May, 2011, about three months after the National Enquirer painted a grim picture of Jobs' health. LCHG, LLC was dissolved in February 2012."

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  1. No idea by mynamestolen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Badly written article. I have no idea what it means.

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    1. Re:No idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. The issues is whether Steve arranged a kickback to the surgeon and his hospital in exchange for some preferential treatment. Did Jobs get a local (more convenient for him?) procedure, or did it go as far as being bumped up on the transplant list. If the latter, then it implies that Jobs used his money and position to get ahead of others who were also dying.

    2. Re:No idea by kestasjk · · Score: 3, Informative

      The guy who did Jobs' liver transplant got Jobs' house at a great price just before the transplant went through, via a shell company.

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    3. Re:No idea by __aaqxjh2299 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It means not only did Jobs buy his way to the head of the transplant line in a state he had never lived in, but his trust sold the house to the doctor who performed the transplant. Legal, perhaps, but morally bankrupt. Jobs was a bad man.

    4. Re:No idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't that exactly how the American health care system works? I'm pretty goddamn sure that's what the republicans have been saying for years now. Those who can pay the most get the best treatment and fuck everyone else. That's it isn't it?

    5. Re:No idea by johnlcallaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yawn ... no story here. Nothing other than vague insinuations without any substantiations. I suppose people like to get worked up over stuff like this to bring other people down a notch or two. At least in their simple minds.

      When there is some real proof, let us know. 'Cuz I can see a different viewpoint...

      Doctor: Nice place you have here Steve
      Steve:Thanks
      Doctor: If you ever decide to get rid of it, let me know. I might be interested in it.
      Steve: You know doc, you've been real good to me. Tell you what, I'll sell it to you for a song to show my appreciation. It's a tough market out there now, and it would be nice to get rid of it.
      Doctor: Wow .. what a great guy you are. Thanks

      I find it interesting that people who always look for the bad in people always seem to find it. Must be a tough life, going around seeing the evil in every little thing while the beauty around you goes unnoticed.

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    6. Re:No idea by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not only that, he wasted a liver that could have been used for a lifetime by a person who should have gotten it

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    7. Re:No idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I read an article some time ago about this...don't recall where. Steve Jobs' health status was used as a springboard to discuss the issue.

      From what I remember from the article, a person seeking a transplant can be on multiple transplant waiting lists across the US (it's broken up into regions). However, that person would have to be able to travel to any region where an organ became available very quickly once informed. Steve happened to have the means to do so. Not everyone does. If you're wealthy and healthy enough for such travel, you can apply to multiple waiting lists. The list in the Memphis/TN region tended to be shorter than others, thus he got an organ faster than in CA.

      Travel after transplant surgery would likely be a big fat NO. He'd need time to recover and likely want to be near the surgeon and hospital where he got the surgery.

      That doesn't speak to whether he got preferential treatment within the region, though. Hmmm...

    8. Re:No idea by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's pretty much how the world works. You can bet rich people in the UK don't stand in line at the local clinic. Germany either. If you're a billionaire and you have a deadly disease what do you think you're going to do? I don't know about you but I'm going to come off the wallet and try to save my ass. It's reality.

    9. Re:No idea by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think maybe you're a little naive.

    10. Re:No idea by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Because we all know that Jobs would not have done a solid for a friend and sold it for a bargain price.

      No, Jobs ate babies, he would have never done that.

      BTW: when I bought my friends jeep for under Bluebook I guess it was a "kickback" as well.

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    11. Re:No idea by Sir_Sri · · Score: 4, Informative

      depends on whether or not he sold the home at market rates or reasonably close thereto.

      Just because it's a mansion doesn't mean it's actually worth a lot. We just had a friend of the family die who owned a property with 3 buildings on it, where similar properties down the street were going in the 2-2.5 million range, the one in question got just under 500k. Because as it turns out, no one had updated the electrical system since the switchover from 25 to 60 Hz power, and 75 years of bats living in ceilings doesn't do buildings any favours. Who knew?

      If you read the TFA's (and god are there a lot of them) the house was, pre 2008, appraised at between 1.3 and 1.4 million. And was the mansion for the university chancellor. Jobs bought it for 850k. Which, considering memphis has seen year over year price drops of easily double digits wouldn't be a huge shock. (http://www.trulia.com/home_prices/Tennessee/Memphis-heat_map/). Also keep in mind that the Steve jobs LLC probably paid cash.

      From TFA, Eason paid 850K, which is the same as the LLC paid, I think.

      So what I would read into this is that housing prices for Million plus dollar homes in memphis crashed by 40% from 2008 to 2009, or at least expensive house prices crashed, and then there was the specific house in question, which, having been a chancellors mansion for the university might have only a limited clientèle of people who would actually want it. (Location maybe? I've never been to TN let alone memphis so the address means nothing to me).

      So sure, Steve probably got himself a deal from the government who were and are desperate for money on a house that wasn't going up in value any time soon. Whether or not it was actually an unfair deal is much harder to say. When housing prices are falling expect to get less than you were asking, and less than you appraised for.

    12. Re:No idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Steve: You know doc, you've been real good to me. Tell you what, I'll sell it to you for a song to show my appreciation. It's a tough market out there now, and it would be nice to get rid of it.
      Doctor: Wow .. what a great guy you are. Thanks

      Yeah... that doesn't really sound like something Steve Jobs would do though, Jobs was a smart guy, but he wasn't necessarily the nicest guy, he had an ego the size of everest and a sense of entitlement to match.

    13. Re:No idea by SethJohnson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not only that, he wasted a liver that could have been used for a lifetime by a person who should have gotten it

      Most assuredly, this liver was used for a lifetime by Steve Jobs.

      Seth

    14. Re:No idea by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I agree it wasn't right. That said, I hope you're never in such a desperate situation where you're dying and grabbing at anything to live. I wonder if you'd live up to your own high standards? I like to think I'd refuse to take advantage but having never been there I can't say. It's easy to Judge when you haven't been there.

    15. Re:No idea by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because we all know that Jobs would not have done a solid for a friend and sold it for a bargain price

      Think about how many times just that sort of explanation has been used in court by people charged with racketeering, ponzi schemses, and similar. "Just a litte favor for a friend" is what people who are paying illegal kickbacks bribery, or extortion always say. A guy gets a contract for a new highway overpass, and it just haapens he recently built an outdoor hot tubbing area behind state representitive X's house at a bargain rate - just a favor for a long standing friend.

      Here, a corporation was apparently formed and dissolved soon after just to handle this one transaction. Doesn't that sound like just maybe somebody knew they were guilty of something and was trying to cover it up? Oh no, people don't do that to hide from the law, they form new corporations just to do "a solid for a friend!".

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    16. Re:No idea by Artifakt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jobs was a known bad transplant risk (for cancer that had already spread to multiple organs, a common reason to take a person off the lists entirely), and that liver only bought him a couple of years, if that. There are plenty of people who gain 20 or 30 healthy productive years from a liver transplant - in fact the best estimate currently for how long a transplant patient will live if they make it through the first few months when organ rejection is likely is now averaging 30 years. So yes, Jobs got a lifetime like anyone else, but not all lifetimes are (re)created equal.

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    17. Re:No idea by TigerTime · · Score: 2

      Yea, isn't he the guy that would buy a new car every month or so, so he didn't have to have a license plate, just so he could park in the handicap spots or wherever he wanted to?

      If he gave this guy a deal on the house for the hell of it, it'd be the first time he ever gave away as a charity case.

  2. very moving by amoeba1911 · · Score: 2

    Let's just say Dr. James Eason was moved by Steve Jobs.... TO A BIGGER HOUSE!

  3. Mysterious...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Clearly LCHG means "Livers Can't Hinder Greatness" - he wanted limited liability for his failing organ.

  4. Re:This just in... by girlintraining · · Score: 2

    ...so naturally we have to assume there was a conspiracy to kill him.

    Conversely, for people who believe Steve was a really nice guy... we can also discuss the conspiracy to save him from the conspiracy to kill him.

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  5. Re:DIBS by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

    Someone else take his ex girlfriend. Do not want.

  6. What. The. Hell, slashdot? by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, so. It's a gossip piece, but it belongs on Slashdot's homepage because it involves Steve Jobs in a semi-tangential sort of way? Right, OK.

    It is extremely common for people who happen to know another person to be cut a nice deal when selling property. In fact, I might even say that is normal. Jobs knew a guy, guy wanted to buy his house, Jobs sold it to him, end of story NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

    I'm not even sure what the summary is implying, and I really don't feel it is worth taking the time to find out. This isn't even "news", it's just sensationalistic crap (I'm assuming, I only skimmed the summary).

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    1. Re:What. The. Hell, slashdot? by Antipater · · Score: 2

      The implication is that Jobs found a doctor and said "Hey, want a nice house? How's about giving me a little bump up that transplant list, eh?" Corruption in medicine, playing with people's lives, and such. From TFS, it doesn't appear to be backed up by much more than some coincidental and very fortuitous timing, but it's a nice conspiracy theory.

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  7. Re:This just in... by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let the litany of Jobs worshippers now feast upon all my +1 funnies with -1 overrateds. I suppose had I made a joke about how Apple's iDied product isn't selling so well, or another iSomething joke, it'd be -1000 flamebait and they'd have to call Malda out of retirement to help rewrite the code so it'd be more resistant to having everyone on the internet simultaniously facepalm, lol, and then -1 a single comment. *maniacal laugh* Soon my pretties...

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  8. This is why there should be a market for organs by trout007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the type of stuff that always happens when there is a prohibition on something. It makes the gatekeepers so powerful that people will use whatever means necessary to influence them.

    Acknowledging that people own their bodies would allow them to sell parts of their bodies. Those that can be harvested while they are alive like bone marrow, kidneys, parts of the liver, would be pretty straight forward. Those that are harvested after death might involve getting a deal on life insurance if you transfer ownership of your organs to the insurance company after death, or you could will them to a family member.

    This would make organs so readily available that no black market would exist.

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    1. Re:This is why there should be a market for organs by elsurexiste · · Score: 2

      There are a few reasons for a market prohibition. The first and foremost is that it coerces the poor. Imagine someone in extreme poverty: he'll no doubt sell one of his kidneys (IIRC, it's the most required organ), permanently impairing himself.

      A more reasonable way is to make organ donation compulsory after death and/or live transplants only from family members older than, say, 35.

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  9. Re:Yeah, so? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

    The issue would be if, for example, Steve jobs secret LLC bought the house for 1.3 million and then re-sold it to the doctor who performed his surgery for 850k and that was significantly different from market rates.

    From the looks of it they bought and sold for 850k on a property appraised before the 2008 crash at 1.3-1.4 mill.

  10. Artificial organ scarcity by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's pretty much how the world works.

    And that is the way the world should work. People should be able to use money to buy things they want, encouraging more people to supply them. The problem here is that we have decided this shouldn't apply to organs, so the supply is severely restricted. If organs were treated like a normal commodity they would be far more plentiful because way more people would be donors. I have the donor dot on my drivers license, and was paid exactly $0 to volunteer.

    Another problem is motorcycle helmet laws. By preventing lethal head injuries on otherwise young healthy individuals, we are removing a great source of organs. Maybe anyone who has volunteered to be a donor should be allowed to ride without a helmet.

    1. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by SpeZek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does Poe's Law apply to capitalists too?

      I honestly can't tell if you're serious.

    2. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by bandy · · Score: 3, Informative

      According to a doctor friend of mine who rides, the helmet keeps the brainstem working long enough to keep the body working so the organs can be donated.

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    3. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      By telling poor people: "tough luck, organs are awarded based on ability to pay and nothing else"?

      Why not? That is the way we distribute food, clothing and housing. Why should organs be different? What you are missing, is that if there were no artificial restrictions on organs, they would be far more plentiful. Most people don't check the donor box, because there is no incentive to do so. If they were prepaid $100, many more would do so.

    4. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by catmistake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's pretty much how the world works.

      And that is the way the world should work. People should be able to use money to buy things they want, encouraging more people to supply them. The problem here is that we have decided this shouldn't apply to organs, so the supply is severely restricted. If organs were treated like a normal commodity they would be far more plentiful because way more people would be donors.

      The problem is that human organs are not a normal commidity. Money doesn't and shouldn't give you the right to someone's organs. Money doesn't make you more deserving of the right to live any more than money makes you more deserving of death. If you believe that if you are rich enough then you should be allowed to pay for the right to have, say, the organs that will be available once someone is taken off life support, you are not only putting pressure on a situation that already has deep ethical concern for the doctor and the patient's family, what you are in effect saying is that if you are rich enough, you should be allowed to pay to kill someone. To put it another way, if you believe it is ethical for you to be able to pay to have some available organ, then you must believe it is perfectly ethical that I can pay to prevent you from getting said available organ. Ultimately the argument for an organ market is an egocentric one, and it doesn't meet the criterial of universalization, meaning that what you wish is not applicable to all under similar circumstances, and it therefore cannot be ethical.

    5. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As opposed to telling people at random, "Sorry, we know you were waiting on a heart transplant, but there are five people a month who will die without a heart transplant, but there are only two of the people a month who die actually signed up to be organ donors, even though there are ten a month whose hearts would be suitable for transplant."

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    6. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The problem is that human organs are not a normal commidity.

      Yes they are. You only think they are not normal because they are scarce. But the scarcity is artificial. If you put a price on a commodity, more become available. Thousands of good organs go into graves and crematoriums everyday, because there is no incentive to do otherwise.

      Every argument you give could be equally applied to food, which is even more important than organs. But we get famines whenever we try to do the "moral" thing, and control food. Today we have an organ famine.

    7. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by Relayman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many people don't check the donor box because they are appalled at the greedy doctors, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies making good money off of their donated organs. Ever check the price of a transplant?

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    8. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by kesuki · · Score: 2

      there is a benefit to being a donor -- they wont ruin you financially if your organs are good and you are braindead. they will declare you dead. seriously who wants to loose their house or other assets to a hospital when you can instead let your kin get those assets.

    9. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by arose · · Score: 2

      Let's put it this way, if my organs aren't prioritized towards people who they'll help the most I'm opting out. In fact, I'd consider opting out of a system that only further increases costs and would never actually benefit me (that is, I'm dead one way and can't afford a transplant even the other).

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    10. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by geek · · Score: 2

      The difference is that many medical conditions leave people as poor and unable to "pay" the way you proclaim they should. Try fighting a life threatening disease for 10 years, see what it does to your bank account. Even rich people go broke from the medical industry.

      How about a child that will die without a transplant? Can the child pay? Maybe their parents can but it's unlikely as they probably have 2nd and 3rd mortgages on their home, assuming they can even afford a home. How about the kids in foster care or who are wards of the state? We should just let them die because they can't pay?

      I'm sorry but illness directly effects wealth and when you start deciding that peoples transplants can only go to the wealthy or to people that can pay you're screwing a large group of people who are guilty of nothing but being sick.\

      The transplant rules are what they are for a very good reason and were decided upon by much wiser people than us. People who actually work in this field and understand it. The life of Steve Jobs is no more valuable than the life of a sick child. I don't care what the eugenics crowd thinks. You'll steal organs from needy people over my dead body.

    11. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by pdabbadabba · · Score: 2

      Good point. Better to let someone die for lack of a transplantable organ than be part of The System.

      Dumbest thing ever to reach +5 Insightful.

    12. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Everyone else in the chain gets paid, why shouldnt the donor?

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    13. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by vivian · · Score: 2

      If you want to get that liver transplant, the surgeon isn't going ot do it for free.
      The hospital isn't going to provide your bed for free.

      There is a huge shortage of donors.
      Direct selling of organs would lead to all sorts of abuses, and should never be allowed, but at the moment there are simply too few people who elect to be donors.
      If there was an annual amount paid to people with donor status on their licence, (which you could of course elect to drop from year to year) and that amount went up and down according to the needed supply (ie. if there are enough donors, the yearly amount paid to donors drops) then it would encourage a lot more people to be donors. In addition, if you DO have donor status and have been for a few years, then need an organ yourself, you should get either priority or at least your organ transplant costs reduced (which should also in turn reduce the cost of your medical insurance).

      Even if it worked out to costing a few thousand dollars on average for an organ under this scheme, it would still be a small fraction of the total transplant cost, which

      Of course all the same rules should still apply for donors as it does now - have to be really truly dead, given all attempts at resuscitation etc before your liver is given to someone else!

    14. Re:Artificial organ scarcity by arose · · Score: 2

      First, what if you're wrong? Nobody gets your heart, nobody is saved.

      I wouldn't be the one who's wrong then, as I don't claim that a financially motivated system would increase the pool. My heart doesn't matter if the pools bigger and you say it is. It's really simple, you want the system to be a financially regulated market, that's me voting by not selling my product to the highest bidder. If you are going to harvest my organs (which I don't have a problem with per se) then they go to the person with 20 years of life expectancy, first, because it's comparatively wasted if it goes to the one with 2 first.

      Then what happens when there are two people waiting; a rich guy and a poor guy. Two people die today -- you and someone else. The other dead guy donated his heart, the rich guy gets it. You didn't donate your heart, the poor guy doesn't get one.

      Than that's a consequence of people (i.e. me)making a personal choice in the system you advocate. What happens if now if the rich guy with a good prognosis gets my heart and the poor guy dies? Exactly what I'd want to happen. It's not about rich or poor, not to me.

      And you'll be dead when it happens, so why do you care?

      If you advocate universal organ donations I'll back you up, if you are going to do personal appeals then go get the people who are currently not opted in to sign up as you are wasting your breath the situation being as it currently is by appealing to what I should or shouldn't do in a hypothetical.

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  11. No idea? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't it interesting that Jobs, a California resident, was able to get a transplant in Tennessee? Bypassing all those sick little children and other in that state who were on the list before him, btw.

    The whole thing disgusted me almost as much as the fact that David Crosby was bumped up the list for his liver transplant to just go back to his ways again.

    And in the meantime, there these poor kids who just got dealt a bad deal going without because they're not rich and shameless.

  12. Re:karma? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    fat lot of good it did him.

    You begin to understand the problem, you just need to look a little bit further.

    The system prioritizes those who could most benefit medically. That is, if you are likely to die even with the transplant, then you should be behind the person who might have a 80% chance of 20 or 30 more years of life with that same organ. If Jobs "greased the skids" to get himself to the head of the list even though he was likely to die with the transplant, then there are some serious questions to be answered.

    Clearly the commissioners believe there is enough suspicion to investigate this more closely. It has the appearance of corruption on the part of the doctor and of Jobs.

  13. Re:not about murder; about improper financial bene by muecksteiner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is of course fairly obvious the home was only purchased to game the transplant waiting list system in place in the U.S. That he was placed ahead on the list in that state by the doctor in question is pure conjecture, though.

    Not everyone can receive every organ that comes up for being transplanted. AFAIK, you need a fairly complex match of genetic compatibility for an organ to be actually useable for a given patient - and even in case of a "match", you need to keep taking fairly heavy immunosupressants during the rest of your life to keep your body from rejecting it. And since I would assume that there is a separate list for each (for lack of a better word - IANAMD) genetic category that donor organs come in: maybe SJ was indeed the front of the waiting list for the liver he ended up with? Without access to the relevant medical records that question is absolutely impossible to answer.

    What does surprise me is that he got a transplant at all in the first place. In Europe, advanced stage cancer patients usually are not eligible to receive any transplants whatsoever, due to the general scarcity of donor organs, and the low expected benefits of transplantation in such a patient. This seems to be different in the U.S., though, otherwise someone else would already have commented on that?

  14. A lot of baiting without correlation by Stickerboy · · Score: 2

    While on the outside the situation has the appearance that there could have been impropriety, the appropriate thing of course is to look at the hard evidence.

    Giving a sweet deal on real estate to a friend and doctor for excellent medical care is not illegal. (While I haven't received a house, I get homemade baked goods all the time.) Giving a sweet deal on real estate to a friend as a kickback for being pushed up the transplant list is highly unethical. But there's an easy way to find out: have the state medical review board take a peek at the transplant waiting list records over the time period. If Steve Jobs mysteriously moves up the list for no good medical reason, or is listed in front of other patients with more pressing need or waiting time, then you have your smoking gun. Otherwise, if everything is appropriate with the transplant waiting list, then it sounds like the system worked as designed.

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  15. Re:karma? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a much bigger loophole that he exploited to get his transplant that's not even being discussed. Why are we even discussing Tennessee? Jobs lived in California. He was only on the list in Tennessee because he could afford to establish a residence in every state with a list that he wanted his name on and because he had access to a private jet to get him anywhere in the country on a moment's notice. The rest of us would be stuck waiting for a local organ to become available. If we want to ferret out corruption, why are we focusing on one doctor? Why not focus on the systematic flaws that allow the wealthy to get preferential treatment. A fairly simple law that would only allow someone to put their name on the list in only one state would make things more fair for everyone.

  16. Re:This just in... by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    OK.

    girlintraining (1395911), you're a wambulance!

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  17. Re:not about murder; about improper financial bene by Americano · · Score: 2

    It is of course fairly obvious the home was only purchased to game the transplant waiting list system in place in the U.S.

    Why would you conclude that? He doesn't have to own a residence in the area to be on their list. He could have just as easily stayed at a rental property, or anywhere else that would allow him to reside there temporarily - heck, if he had a friend in Memphis, he could have easily just stayed at their place if they were willing to put him up.

    To get on the list, he would have had to pay listing fees, and go through a battery of tests and interviews in each region he wanted to be on the list for - this is *certainly* where his money helped him ("average" people's insurance only pays for a single listing in their home region, and tests + travel + interviews + time off work is out of the reach of many regular folks), but there is no requirement that he have a residence in the region to get listed - just that he be able to travel to the transplant location within a certain time frame (this is where that private jet comes in handy, too).

  18. The naive explination by Ameryll · · Score: 2

    While I usually see the worst in people, Steve Jobs was extremely secretive about his health. Perhaps he got this shell company so that people wouldn't start to investigate why he was buying a house in Tennessee?

  19. Re:karma? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since when is American health care system about "fair"? If you really wanted that, you'd have public healthcare long ago.

  20. When Jobs was still alive, by walter_f · · Score: 2

    I read another possible answer to the "Why Tennessee?" question.

    That article back then said, that, unlike most states in the U.S., Tennessee doesn't require a patient to be a resident of the state in order to be entered to the recipients' list.

    It was required that when a trasplant organ was available and person X was on top of the list, this person should be at the TN transplant centre in 24 24 hours or even much less (don't remember the exact period of time that was stated). Otherwise (when nor showing up in time) the patient would be re-scheduled back to the bottom of the list.

    In Jobs' case, this latter requirement was easily met by means of a nice private Gulfstream business jet, of course.

    Also referring to Jobs, a transplant surgeon said in an interview that in his area all patients with a medical history of cancer would be generally excluded from getting a donor liver at all, due to the fact that there weren't enough livers available for all the patients without any cancer history.

  21. Re:karma? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

    so it is fair that everyone should pay the same amount even if some people need more care?

    Yes, so long as people don't actively do something that obviously and significantly negatively affects their health (like smoking, or, say, parkour). When they do, they should pay more if they require treatment as a consequence.

  22. Re:karma? by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Funny

    There are problems with the American system, but this isn't one of them. The organs have to be transplanted within hours of being harvested. Steve Jobs was willing and able to travel thousands of miles at the drop of a hat to get there in time. It's not reasonable or feasible to do that for everyone.

    Prohibiting him from getting the organ equally makes no sense. It's based on need, so he was the one with the most need who could get there.

  23. Re:karma? by cheater512 · · Score: 2

    Just bump up the tax on cigarettes to pay for the additional medical costs.
    Might actually stop some people buying them.

    Duh. Thats not an argument against universal health care.