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WikiLeaks Begins Release of 2.5m Syrian Emails
judgecorp writes "WikiLeaks has started publishing 2.5 million emails from Syrian political figures and other bodies. The material will embarrass Syria, as well as other governments according to Julian Assange (still hiding in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London). As well as revealing the behaviour of the Syrian regime, the emails will also expose the hypocrisy of other governments and companies, Assange has said."
We need Wikileaks. Information like this will likely prove to be very informative.
"The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
I guess as long as there are no pics of the prophet then no one will mind.
Oh, who am I kidding? No one will care much outside Syria anyway, at least not for more than 5 minutes and a tweet or 2.
Wikileaks is a project waiting for just one of those less politically correct countries like Syria but that has enough time on their hands to send a hit squad to wipe them out permanently--as in personnel and extended family if necessary.
Why? Has your country something embarasing to hide?
...some real, possibly world-changing leaks stories instead of all the crap about Assange and his whereabouts.
There was a news report on Danish television about the Syrian regime and how it's treating dissidents. That was not pleasant to watch.
Assange has requested asylum from Equador. We all know where he is. Last I heard, he was also on the ballot in Australia and has a TV show on hulu.com, so he's not exactly low-profile either.
You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
"the emails will also expose the hypocrisy of other governments and companies"
In other words he will filter out data that will United States and Western Europe in a good light.
My prediction it will show that Companies are dealing with Syria by working around any laws to stop them, and there are some politicians who were willing to look the other way for some concessions, and Oil...
If you don't know this stuff is actually happening then you are either an idiot, or you live in Mr. Happy land where your country can do no wrong.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
They're releasing 2.5metres of emails? Or maybe it's miles!
So when BBC or New York Times publish articles that are not deemed Correct by these entities, then they need to worry that themselves and their families will be assassinated??
Assange did not leak *anything*. All he does it put leaks sent to him up on a website and acts all important about it. He's not the important part of the equation. There are 1,000,000 Assange-like people waiting in the wings hoping he fails so they can step in.
Most of the commenters here will twist this story into how the US is somehow evil, and drone on (pun intended) about how the US and West governments and/or corporations and/or political systems are what's wrong with the world, when in reality, people are suffering and dying under actual tyranny and oppression.
Like in Syria.
It's about time Wikileaks lived up to its initial stated mission of "exposing oppressive regimes in Asia, the former Soviet bloc, Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East," instead of becoming an anti-US pulpit for a self-righteous egomaniac who has openly said if he was asked to choose between "advocate"/"activist" and "journalist", he would choose "advocate", and who answered "I'm too busy ending two wars," in response to a reporter asking for clarity on an issue.
(And no, this doesn't mean the US and West are all-perfect or all-wise — what it means is that people need to get out of their bizarro world and get some perspective on things. A clue wouldn't hurt, either.)
This concept may be foreign to some people living on this planet, but certainly as a U.S. citizen, I was raised believing in the idea. As an adult, I've learned what a fantasy it really is today ... but that's doesn't mean it's not a worthy goal to keep striving for.
So thanks again, wikileaks -- because a govt. keeping secrets isn't a very accountable one.
It seems to be this way, as the civil war rages on unabated in Syria.
Fuck Beta
I think you have failed to notice that the BBC and NYT don't publish those kinds of article anymore.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
Hey babe,
Here is a red dress if you keep your purty mouth shut.
They're all SOMETHING, and differ in degree, but the US and the principles for which it stands, however imperfectly throughout history, can definitely not be generalized as "evil". I can't say the same for totalitarian states — throughout history, or now.
Saying it's all "just different kinds of evil" shamefully ignores the countless tens millions of people who have died under the repression, tyranny, and selfishness of totalitarian regimes.
Yes, be vigilant. Yes, identify injustice. Yes, call out abuse. But as soon as you start believing the US is "just as bad" (or some similar sentiment) as any other government, but "just in a different way", you have lost all perspective on the realities of history and the world in which we live.
Wow, talk about wild eyed assertions. Accusing Wikileaks of being a front for "something else" with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Sounds to me like you just don't like what they do, so you will say any damn ridiculous thing you can to try and discredit them.
Yes. It is morally imperative to resist immoral laws.
Have you looked at what Wikileaks publishes? It's not some yellow press institution that posts some sad peeping tom bullshit. It's hardcore international politics and all kind of shady deal most of which should never have been classified in the first place.
You really think that the US is a "free democracy with fair justice system"? What rock do you live under?
The world is already a much worse place. http://community.mis.temple.edu/mis3538b2/files/2011/10/assage.jpg
We try really hard to keep them locked up in basements and such, but occasionally the crazy gets out.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
Every country has something embarrassing to hide. Just some more than others.
May the source be with you!
Here's the link: http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/releases.html
At first glance, I read that as "Sybian Emails", and was wondering what the contents could possibly be.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Fugitive?
The women wanted him to take an HIV test and asked police for advice. Random attorney jumped and called it rape. Some sane guy read it and said 'what lol' and dropped the case. Said retard attorney dug it back up along with the help of Bodström, with whose help they poisoned his well and made him look like a rapist in the medias (which is all owned by the Bonnier group).
Assange offered to be questioned/interviewed, but the attorney declined. He did so again and warned that he was headed overseas, but she declined. Then when he's at the airport some minutes before takeoff, she issues an arrest warrant for questioning, and later the interpol most wanted call. The ladies involved who asked about what they could/should do about the hiv test are long since out of the picture.
There are lots of precedents where Swedish authorities have interviewed/questioned people over phone, or even by traveling to the country where the person is to do it there. Ny and Bodström don't want to; they want him inside Sweden.
Once here they can ship him off to US in all accordance with Swedish law, without any court proceedings (or if any then behind closed doors as is usually reserved for sexual assault on minors, very hush hush). The temporary surrender agreement that we have with the states just demands that the reason why the US wants the extraditee mustn't be political.
The secret grand jury has had ample time to invent a new interpretation of the espionnage laws by now, so when he lands at JFK they'll be waiting with an orange jumpsuit, a pair of zipties and a tazer. After a ~year of psychological torture (sleep deprivation is very very very effective), Manning could easily be coaxed into saying Assange made him do it, and then he'd get gitmoed.
I don't think they'll suicide him right away lest he become a martyr. Though I guess they could do the burial-at-sea thing again.
It looks like Julian Assange is seeking to endear himself with the US government in joining the Western-led anti-Syrian bashing train. But somehow, I doubt this will help him redeem himself in the eyes of the Empire. And no, don't get me started about how evil the Assad regime is, considering that the only realistic alternative could be a lot worse. Quo vadis, Wikileaks?
cpghost at Cordula's Web.
Well, the Prime Directive wasn't invented yet in this time and age. It is exactly this current kind of overzealous interventionism with all those painful unintended consequences that will eventually lead the world to adopt it sometime in the future.
cpghost at Cordula's Web.
Right. It's not like he's wanted for rape by the legal system of a first world country with an extradition request approved and the accusations deemed credible by two courts of a second first-world country.
Rock Us, Dukakis.
Assange better watch himself. The US is/has been involved in a lot of corruption in its politics and its financial sector, and it fields assassination teams around the world. However it's not going to directly kill Assange for embarrassing/inconveniencing it.
The same cannot be said for Russia and a host of other countries.
. . . and then something like this happens:
Julian Asange, a uniter, not a divider. . .
Sorry, but that is 100% false and pure victim smearing. And there is no such charge as "sex by surprise". The charge they want to try him for (well, one of the four) is "mindre grov våldtäkt" ("minor rape" - literally, "less than major rape"), but had it happened in the UK it would simply be prosecuted as "rape". Which isn't speculation; that's what the British lower court determined and what the high court upheld. The total maximum penalty is 4 years jail time.
The term "sex by surprise" comes from Assange's attorney pushing a literal translation of the term "överraskningssex", which is not a charge, just a description (and while "överraskning" means "surprise", "överraskningssex" still means "rape").
Rock Us, Dukakis.
Go look at the previous threads about Iceland's MEP talking about any WL defenders being hounded by the USA.
Assange was used as a reason to hate Wikileaks, but the hate was about Wikileaks and what they did to the USA.
Define recently? Post WWII? What do you think our fighting in Vietnam was except an interference in a civil war? Or post WWI, the Russian Civil War. Now, more often then not, the world decides to wring its hands b/c interventions into civil conflicts tend to escalate into proxy wars and full blown regional conflicts. Too recent? Look into the history of the CSS Alabama.
I laughed at the weak who considered themselves good because they lacked claws.
The US is right-wing generally. What you call a "liberal" is what we call middle of the road or possibly a conservative. :P
I agree that Faux News is batshit crazy right wing, but I see CNN as merely right wing, not liberal by any means, and most of the people who comment on CNN stories are also batshit rightwing it seems.
The extremes are dangerous IMHO, in the very least because they don't think they are dangerous. While I am slightly leftwing politically myself, the extreme leftwing people are often out to lunch IMHO, and the rightwing Conservative types seem only a few steps from Fascist.
I don't think the typical American political range from left to right is lining up with the rest of the world's similar range. You folks tend to be slid towards the rightwing side more. At least thats my perspective on it
"The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
that alleged intellectual would be proposing the death penalty for then? Or only the ones who cost a lot to the corporatiocracy, i was a little confused about it and by the time i got the newsletter the discussion was archived.
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?