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A Build-It-Yourself Electric Vehicle

Taco Cowboy writes "Here's yet another exciting project for DIY geeks. Modi-Corp, a Japanese company, has just unveiled a new electric car that you can actually build yourself. Not to be confused with the Toyota 'Prius,' the DIY electric car from Modi-Corp is called 'PIUS.' It's a single-seat electric car that will be released next spring in Japan. The company hopes that the PIUS kits can be used as educational tools, expecting to sell them to universities and mechanical schools with the opportunity to have customizable parts embedded in the EV for testing."

84 comments

  1. Pius? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

    Seriously? They didn't think to run that past a single english speaker? Or South Park fan?

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    1. Re:Pius? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

      Oh it's a toy! Never mind.

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    2. Re:Pius? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Ya. {sigh} I was really expecting more from the story. I forgot, Slashdot is running more Slashvertisments than news lately...

      I've never driven a go-kart with a skin like that though. Then again, I'm an adult, and I probably wouldn't fit in it. Too bad their whole spec sheet is an image. I'd like to run it through a translator to see how pathetic the rest is.

      Any volunteers who read Japanese who can translate it?

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    3. Re:Pius? by BlueStrat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I've never driven a go-kart with a skin like that though. Then again, I'm an adult, and I probably wouldn't fit in it. Too bad their whole spec sheet is an image. I'd like to run it through a translator to see how pathetic the rest is.

      Any volunteers who read Japanese who can translate it?

      Yes, of course.

      Basically, it says; "If Solyndra can get $500M for smoke & mirrors, we'll all be able to retire to Tahiti with more money than Bill Gates after Obama's DoE/EPA makes this the only vehicle legally allowed to be sold in the US!"

      I'm sorry to say, however, that the 24-hr cable news daytime staple filler of car chases will become very boring. Especially when a 6-yo on his Big Wheel performs the PIT maneuver to stop the fleeing criminals.

      HTH

      Strat

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    4. Re:Pius? by BlueStrat · · Score: 0

      I've never driven a go-kart with a skin like that though. Then again, I'm an adult, and I probably wouldn't fit in it. Too bad their whole spec sheet is an image. I'd like to run it through a translator to see how pathetic the rest is.

      Any volunteers who read Japanese who can translate it?

      Yes, of course.

      Basically, it says; "If Solyndra can get $500M for smoke & mirrors, we'll all be able to retire to Tahiti with more money than Bill Gates after Obama's DoE/EPA makes this the only vehicle legally allowed to be sold in the US!"

      I'm sorry to say, however, that the 24-hr cable news daytime staple filler of car chases will become very boring. Especially when a 6-yo on his Big Wheel performs the PIT maneuver to stop the fleeing criminals.

      HTH

      Strat

      Modded "Flamebait"?

      I'm shocked!

      I didn't know there was that much hatred and animosity towards Big Wheels on Slashdot! Are Big Wheels a "tool of the 1% to disenfranchise the 99%" or something?

      Strat

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    5. Re:Pius? by tragedy · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty shocked that you're shocked you were modded flamebait. You certainly couldn't have expected an Informative mod. Offtopic might have been a fit. Maybe you could have gotten a Funny, but it just wasn't that funny.

    6. Re:Pius? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find the Left absolutely hilarious!!

      They don't even realize that by modding BlueStrat down, they're playing right into the joke. Like you said, it's not like he doesn't realize the reaction his post will illicit from the humorless Left (at least, humorless when the joke is both based in fact, *and* is on them). Particularly seeing his "toungue-in-cheek" second post.

      He's probably laughing his ass off.

      "Flamebait"?

      Well-played, I'd say.

    7. Re:Pius? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, fallic references abound. Also, Prius owners tend to be rather pious themselves.

    8. Re:Pius? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      makes this the only vehicle legally allowed to be sold in the US!

      Just because the vehicle will never be sold in the USA doesn't mean it's not interesting. Billions of people live elsewhere in the world and drive vehicles unavailable in the good ol' USA. Many of them also pay a lot more for energy than Americans do, relative to their incomes, so alternate vehicles are of interest.

    9. Re:Pius? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      I'm all for bashing Slashvertisment, but it's hard to call this that when it's a) Japan only, b) not yet released or priced, and c) of little commercial interest in the rest of the world.

      Irrelevant, yes. Slashvertisment, not this time.

    10. Re:Pius? by kheldan · · Score: 1

      ..electric range of 15 miles and a top speed of 21 mph

      Yeah, it's a toy. As it sits there's no real practical use for something that a really fit cyclist could outrun and outdistance.

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    11. Re:Pius? by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          They've run plenty in the past, where they are planning to release a product. One of the pages is to contact them for more information. That was the only one in text that I could push through Google Translate. So they can't sell quite yet, but they probably want pre-sales and investors.

          Don't forget, there is a Japanese Slashdot site. Apparently the search there sucks just as bad as the English version. Google found a reference to the Pius, but not I can't find it through the site. I don't have any grasp of the Japanese language, so it is less likely that I could do a successful search.

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    12. Re:Pius? by tragedy · · Score: 1

      I would find partisan wing-nuts absolutely hilarious if I didn't find them so tragic. All the energy wasted on pointless sniping at strawman mis-characterizations of each other.

    13. Re:Pius? by vmlemon · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've established from reading the Katakana text that it has a double-wishbone suspension with rigid axles, and disk brakes. It also has a 1500mm wheelbase; a 0.6 kW electric motor; and a 36 Volts, 38 Ah battery. Its tyre size is 3.00-10; the "FR tread" is 1130mm, and the "RR tread" is 920mm. It also seats 1 person, and weighs 200kg.

      I couldn't understand much more of the Kanji-heavy text.

    14. Re:Pius? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could someone please mod the parent up. This is much more informative than posts in response to some stupid joke.

  2. So... its a go-cart? by Kenja · · Score: 1

    Cause I built those back when I was 12 using a starter motor from a truck.

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  3. I prefer TopGear's home made electric vehicle.... by EGSonikku · · Score: 2
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  4. I think I prefer the one i built... by rogueleader25 · · Score: 1

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=430108543679549&set=a.430108540346216.103930.164801466876926&type=1&theater 38 miles on 28 pounds of lithium iron magnesium phosphate batteries in 70 minutes. Not bad...

  5. Not news Already featured on Southpark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Japanese Pius is so small.

  6. Ariel Atom? by aaronb1138 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Specs are 15 mile range and 21 MPH top speed. So we're not talking about a kit car, but a low end electric go kart. Seriously, the environment would be much better served if you went with an Ariel Atom since you're going to be killing the efficiency of everyone behind you or the inevitable towing when it only goes 13 miles on a charge after 6 months. I assure you, you will be much cooler and have a lot more fun to boot.

    1. Re:Ariel Atom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry that I read TFA before the comments this time. 21mph is joke, not news.

    2. Re:Ariel Atom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's an educational tool not a serious commuter vehicle. You either didn't actually read TFA or TFS since both have that fact in there. it fits the niche it was intended to fill. it's a low cost, easy to mod/build/fix, and small educational device. it allows people to test out ideas small scale before ramping up.

    3. Re:Ariel Atom? by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was amazed it's performance is that poor.

      I've been designing a home-build EV myself and in some respects it's similar: a 4-wheeled, single-seat space-framed vehicle with a lightweight non-structural aero body wrapping around it. But there the similarity ends. Mine weights 200kg, has a top speed of 130 km/hr, will do 0-100km/hr in 4 seconds, runs at its top speed for 1 hour which gives it a range of 130km at worst, much more if driven sensibly and legally. I only need 15kW motor power and 15kW/hr of LiFePo batteries. Then again it's primarily intended as a fun track car, not a commuter.

      I just don't think they're trying very hard. And it's ugly too - they need a western stylist to fix that.

    4. Re:Ariel Atom? by tp1024 · · Score: 1

      The similarity ends right *after* the weight. This kit car also weighs 200kg. The engine is 600W and battery is a 1kWh affair (nominal - 36V, 38Ah).

      The problem seems to be that everyone is using car technology to build electric vehicles - when you should in fact think of it as a 4-wheeled e-bike with minimum weight. I see no reason why, given the performance, such a kit car should weigh any more than 40-60kg (minus the batteries and driving).

    5. Re:Ariel Atom? by tp1024 · · Score: 1

      Driver, not driving ...

    6. Re:Ariel Atom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take this golf cart instead. Top speed - 150mph.

    7. Re:Ariel Atom? by dr2chase · · Score: 2

      It's car-think, period. A 600 watt motor is an absurd amount of power. A streamlined tricycle (Sinner Mango, something like that) happily cruises at 25mph under human power. Me-on-a-cargo-bicycle exceeds both top speed and range of this joke

    8. Re:Ariel Atom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just simply get an eBike?

      Something like this would offer much better bang for buck. About twice as fast and double the range, and most people wouldn't think twice about seeing a bicycle ride along them in normal traffic. (As where the go-cart might not comply with ordinances or DOT law depending on your location.) Not to mention that if the battery runs out on the eBike, you just stop being lazy and pedal.

      You don't even have to buy one pre-made from some company like in the video. It's all possible to roll your own for less cash with motor hubs, lithium ion batteries, and motor controllers purchased online and bolted onto some stock off-the-shelf mountain bike frame.

      The only fun I could see in the go-kart would be in modding it. It's too tame and slow. Sure build it to factory spec first for a baseline, but the rest would be in seeing how far you could push it.

    9. Re:Ariel Atom? by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Cost? I'd buy one from you if I had the cash.

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  7. A problem with electric cars by oldhack · · Score: 1

    Ever try to fix electrical problems on a car? Nasty, way tougher to track down than mechanical problems.

    I just hope they're equipped with adequate diagnostic systems to mitigate the challenge, but that will push up the cost.

    But I suspect electric cars will preclude "home mechanics" more/less entirely.

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    1. Re:A problem with electric cars by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Ever try to fix electrical problems on a car?

      Post 1973? Too complicated!

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    2. Re:A problem with electric cars by aaronb1138 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So much THIS.

      Mid 60's cars are the best electrical systems to work on. Though, I do tend to prefer to throw on the one wire HEI distributor and single wire internally regulated alternator from later years for even greater ease. Not to mention, inside all three or so wire connectors you have for lights, what do we have, regular, industry standard size spade terminals. Just so easy.

      One of the top issues in the used car market isn't that cars aren't lasting mechanically. Many are mechanically good for 15+ years with minimal maintenance. Most issues I am running into are burned out electrical parts and bad wires. This is especially frustrating because the bad wiring issues are due to poor insulation quality, yet stuff 40 years old are still soft, pliable and without cracks. Same issue since the automotive industry jumped on lead-free solder. It's less the complexity and more the construction quality that has made ECU's a huge cash cow in the 5-8 year old car market. And here is another hint: a hall effect or other inductive pickup (Cam / Crank sensors) which is internally solid state by nature, should be UNBREAKABLE. If a solid hunk of plastic with x number of turns of insulated copper magnet wire wound around a soft ferrite core burns out, somebody either designed or built something WRONG.

    3. Re:A problem with electric cars by _merlin · · Score: 1

      They said that about fuel injection, ABS, electronic ignition, etc. It just requires a different set of skills.

    4. Re:A problem with electric cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Peice of cake! Electrical issues have never slowed my EV down for more than an hour, but the mechanicals often take weeks to take care of.

    5. Re:A problem with electric cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at home conversions to electric. There are very few wires, and anyone on Slashdot can figure out the electronics/electrical system because it is straight forward and not complex.

    6. Re:A problem with electric cars by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Ever try to fix electrical problems on a car? Nasty, way tougher to track down than mechanical problems. "

      Sometimes, but OBD for an EV poses no particular challenges. Modern autos don't preclude home mechanics, and I'd rather deal with them than hassle with carbs and points of ancient times.

      Modern ICE vehicles are far more complex than a pure EV.

      A multimeter, a test light, a code reader, and salvage parts to play "swaptronics" solve most problems.

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  8. top speed 21mph? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    I can ride my bike faster. And I'll be able to smoke it dead when I upgrade to this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvtY5TzqKQ

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    1. Re:top speed 21mph? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, there are so many things wrong with the bike. I hope you did your research, before you paid the guy for his 'book'. The braking would be totally awful with the tires he has. I am surprised he has not crashed yet. The bike would also be totally unstable, if you hit one unexpected bump, expect it to crash.

    2. Re:top speed 21mph? by dr2chase · · Score: 2

      I don't think so. Those are good tires, and the brakes are large. The weight is low-ish and centralized.

      How would I know this? I ride a cargo bike, similar tires, similar (smaller) disk brakes, sometimes larger loads, sometimes come down hills at nice speeds (usually limit it to 35mph). Handling is fine; can go no-hands across 3 bumps in succession, or no-hands with a hundred-pound load.

      And with tires and shocks like those on an earlier cargo bike, I once hit an unexpected pothole (poor planning on my part) at over 30mph, and the net effect was a loud "bang!" as I bottomed the shocks, and sharp smack in the hands from the impact coming up the handlebars. The bike rode rock-solid straight through it all.

    3. Re:top speed 21mph? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

      thank you. My experiences are similar.

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  9. So this is new? by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

    An electric go-kart. Whoopee.

    I'not an employee of RQ Riley, but they've been selling plans for DIY cars for ages, including options for electric propulsion. Some cool shit, especially the hybrid Diesel DIY car that reputedly gets 225 mpg.

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  10. 7.5 miles round trip by Nalez · · Score: 1

    "15 mile range and 21 MPH top speed"

    Runs for 43 minutes at top speed; AND it can go 300 city blocks; how impressive. I just might need to put that bicycle away.

  11. stupid. Come on hippies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stupid

  12. Yeah, but it works both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's pius coming out of your pius. Don't worry. Penicilin will fix that. Genius.

  13. Makes no sense by fnj · · Score: 1

    How can a 4 wheel vehicle with a steering wheel be classed as a motorized bicycle in ANY country? It makes no sense whatsoever.

    1. Re:Makes no sense by DoctorTuba · · Score: 1

      The same way 3 wheeled cars in the UK (like the Morgan) were classified as motorcycles - for tax purposes.

    2. Re:Makes no sense by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      I see we have no experience with laws. "Makes no sense whatsoever" is the typical outcome. All that matters is finding a qualification that allows you to sell your product, somehow. Please excuse yourself from any further discussions on topics like these, and refrain from offering uninformed opinions.

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    3. Re:Makes no sense by fnj · · Score: 1

      Three wheels makes sense described thus. There are a fair number of outright 3 wheel motorcycles. Four wheels described thus, the wheels positioned exactly like on a car, on a vehicle that looks very much like a car, makes no sense. The only 4 wheel motorcycles I have ever seen have been open air, steered by handlebars, with a ridiculously close spacing of the tires on each end, and could NEVER be mistaken as cars, while this thing is obviously trying very hard to look and operate like a very small car.

      P.S. - I know the Reliant Regal 3-wheeler from Mr. Bean. It tipped over ridiculously easily if not handled with proper care. I wouldn't hesitate to classify it as a form of motorcycle. Thanks for mentioning the Morgan 3 wheeler. I did not know about that. Not my cup of tea, but fascinating.

    4. Re:Makes no sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only 4 wheel motorcycles I have ever seen have been open air, steered by handlebars, with a ridiculously close spacing of the tires on each end, and could NEVER be mistaken as cars, while this thing is obviously trying very hard to look and operate like a very small car.

      You mean quad bikes.

  14. Take my money by spokenoise · · Score: 2

    Does it come in pieces, each fortnight, on a magazine? First issue only $19.99!

  15. Hardly Exciting by DoctorTuba · · Score: 2

    This is no more a DIY EV than Lego Mindstorms is autonomous robotics. It's a one size fits all kit and the fit at 15 miles and 21 mph is pretty lousy. It might be a fun toy if priced at under $500, but where's the educational value? I'd guess it uses rudimentary components (simple DC motor, rheostat, lead-acid batteries). You could get the same education building an electric RC car, plane, or boat.

  16. This is the same thing... by billybob_jcv · · Score: 1
    1. Re:This is the same thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This is the same thing..."

      No.... the one in the link has seating for 2!

  17. the TREV by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    21mph? Not exactly practical.

    See http://teamtrev.com/ :

    http://teamtrev.com/about/

    Trev, the idea

    Using tonnes of noisy, complicated machinery to move one or two people comfortably and safely around a city is crazy. The same task can be done using much less energy in a lightweight electric vehicle. Powered by renewable energy, mobility becomes entirely emission free. (more)

    Trev, the car

    With that idea in mind, some clever folks at the University of South Australia created a lightweight and beautiful car which they called Trev: the Two-seater Renewable Energy Vehicle. (more) ...

  18. Holy car! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Pius. How's that for a pope mobile? Incidentally there are several popes named Pius, including two that served during World War 2.

    --Anonymous Catholic

    1. Re:Holy car! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it include the one that didn't condemn mass-murder of the Jewish people ? Yeah, a truly Pius god's servant.

    2. Re:Holy car! by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Ya, that's the association I made with the name too. It makes just about as much sense as the phallic associations others seem to see in the name.

      I also considered it in relation to piteous. Like, "I pity the man who gets in an accident in one of those things." A Smart Car may be a rolling economy size coffin. This thing is barely a stretcher to help move the body after the accident.

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    3. Re:Holy car! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I call it the "Toyota Pious" because the people who drive are all be smug holier-than-thou assholes. They seem to be particularly adept at parking to completely block the sidewalk and ignoring one way streets & pedestrian crossings, singly or in combination.

      Maybe think that because it's not a proper car the rules don't apply, or that because they "don't pollute" they're allowed to be antisocial in other ways for balance.

      No doubt there's some high-falutin' psychological term for all that.

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    4. Re:Holy car! by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I actually know two Prius owners, and they are respectful drivers. I was dating one for a while, and drove her car a few times, just to say I did. The other one told me "Don't bother, you won't like it. It's like driving a golf cart." His next purchase wasn't a Prius.

          So there are at least 2 exceptions, but I've definitely seen the rest. I'm particularly annoyed when they sit in the fast lanes going under the speed limit, or tailgating to increase their gas mileage by 0.1%. I *know* they will go over 45mph, so either do it, or get out of the way.

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  19. It's a joke by Grayhand · · Score: 1

    Given the range and speed I don't see the point. There are companies that will convert your old used cars for 10K to an electric that gets more miles per charge and does freeway speed. With a little research you can build one yourself for less than that including buying the used car. It's a toy not a car.

    1. Re:It's a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, my train station is about 2 km away... But it's a pain to walk there every time. I wouldn't mind I've of these... And I wouldn't need to pay $3500 for a car license or deal with all that paperwork. ( then again, I'd be happy with a real bike, I suspect).

      And trust Me, in Tokyo 21kph is plenty...

  20. Shinra Car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone see the picture with the chassis off? Looks like one of those distopian steampunk cars from FFVII.

  21. An electric pickup truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A guy built his own electric pickup truck and documented the process well enough that others could duplicate his work.

    The vehicle has a range of better than 40 miles and can travel at highway speeds. If gasoline and other fuels became very expensive, such a vehicle would be attractive.

    http://www.evprogress.org/

    I was seriously considering converting a pickup truck. Then I found out about shale gas. If, for some reason, gasoline became very expensive, almost any vehicle could be converted to run on natural gas. We have a lot of that and it probably won't become expensive. In fact, T. Boone Pickens wants America's commercial truck fleet to convert to natural gas. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/trucks-run-on-natural-gas-in-pickens-clean-energy-drive.html

    Converting a vehicle to run on natural gas is much more practical than converting it to run on electricity. Electric vehicles are, for the time being, pointless.

    1. Re:An electric pickup truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shale gas has problems, specifically for people who live close by. It might not contaminate the water supply, but there are waste water ponds and other problems with the production of those chemicals.

      My electric pickup truck can be powered by my solar panels. And it will get me anywhere in town that I need to go. Not really pointless. :)

      I'm disappointed this article wasn't about a company selling just a lightweight frame, interior, and body all ready for you to put in the EV components. That is what we need. I spent 4 months just getting the truck ready to put int the EV components. There is a large geek population who would see this as a bigger computer. When I build a computer, I buy the case, and then go out any put in all the components. Well, I built my last case myself out of polycarb, but you get the point...

  22. A little frosting by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    Build a Pius! Because you are geeeat!

  23. Re:I prefer TopGear's home made electric vehicle.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like it but the designs are idiots. They put the steering wheel on the wrong side! Probably some moron engineer didn't realize the blueprint was upside down.

  24. Riley anyone? by khb · · Score: 1

    http://www.rqriley.com/xr3.htm

    Older designs such as his trimagnum go back years

    They should strive to do something new or better or just license his

  25. Check your local laws before ordering... by cvtan · · Score: 1

    NY resident here. I have to think it is not legal to drive this thing anywhere but on private property. I don't think NY even allows electric bicycles (perhaps there is an exception for New York City). Could someone in the know clarify? Pretty sure any four-wheeled thing is NOT considered a bicycle. Three wheels and you can claim motorcycle status, but not four. Also 21mph is not fast enough. This is a toy. The main function of vehicles like this is to make the mainstream manufacturers look bad. Any two guys in a barn can whip up an electric car, but Ford can't. Those big evil companies are so lame!!

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    1. Re:Check your local laws before ordering... by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      Says something about NY where your first thought is "Am I allowed to do that?"

      These guys would know the laws, they're based in NY.

      http://www.nycewheels.com/

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    2. Re:Check your local laws before ordering... by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      My memory is that there is a federal law defining as a bicycle anything that pedalling will propel, and no more than three wheels, no more than 3/4 hp, electric assist, and motor only tops out at 25 mph.

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  26. Real electric car - Mitsubishi i-MiEV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dunno what the purpose of TFA is, since it's describing a joke vehicle or toy. There are already several proper pure electric cars around, so what do we need jokes for?

    The Mitsubishi i-MiEV is just one of several real and very usable EVs now available in the UK, really perfect for the vast majority of UK daily travel -- http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/imiev/

    It's only the long-distance traveler that still isn't served well by EVs. For everyone else, they're here. See also Volvo, Honda, Nissan, Citroen, and many others.

    1. Re:Real electric car - Mitsubishi i-MiEV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's scientific research. The programme itself explains it better.
      But I agree with you, humour should be banned.

  27. T. Boone Pickens by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    That man always has his money invested where is mouth is. He puts forward a good pitch but one should expect that given his background... Question is, does he mean what he says (many biz guys are great at BS) or is he simply doing a good sell of his personal kind of green-washing? Given some of his past moves, he might be sincere but he can't help but make money (old habits) on his position and this undermines his creditability. Because he is not a "liberal" or environmentalist he doesn't get attacked like Al Gore for conflicts of interest, despite his being obvious.

  28. I gotta confess ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm being pretty crass. I'm only worried about having a vehicle I can afford to drive. The environment was the last thing on my mind when I posted. ;-)

    I do have a question or two for you. It is my impression that lead-acid batteries are more easily recycled than other battery chemistries. Is that true? It also seems to me that the thing that makes electric vehicles uneconomical is that the batteries need to be replaced every couple of years. What are your thoughts on that?

  29. not even hobby level... by just+another+AC · · Score: 1

    I expected more slashdot.
    This is as bad as Apple claiming to have invented rounded corners (sorry couldn't resist that cheap shot)

    Seriously a hobbyist/ university is much more likely to experiment with the EXISTING superior alternatives.

    Many electric options exist for kit cars.
    Many dozens more exist for retrofitting existing cars with electric motors (the most popular being the VW Beetle from what I have seen)

    And the upside of working with these solutions is that they are FAR more likely to be passed as road registerable (because they use an existing tested base vehicle) than something that has not been run through any of the international safety tests.

  30. Almost any RWD car can easily be made hybrid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a 2003 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4 that I turned into a hybrid vehicle. I had two custom driveshafs made that connect to a custom 20HP electric motor mounted between the output of the transfer case and the rear differential. The electric motor runs off of a 165V LiFePo battery pack I built and charges from the vehicle charging system when the manifold pressure is above a set manifold pressure. Below that pressure the motor turns on and applies a variable torque to the drive shaft directly.

    I can adjust the trigger manifold pressure and motor torque on the fly depending on what I need.

    I've gotten 25MPG in town and 22MPG on the highway (the EPA ratings are 15 in town and 18 on the highway). The only thing I sacrifice is a little bit of ground clearance, and storage in the luggage area for the battery, which is about a 1-foot cube and has a capacity of 10.8 AH at 165V. I also had to install a 300-Amp alternator to charge the pack quickly (although I can vary the charging rate as well and save on I2R losses when I don't need to charge quickly)

    The whole system adds about 200lbs to the car, and cost less than $3000 to build and install.

  31. So basically it's a go-cart you can build yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [rom TFA] Not all of the official specs have been released, but the Pius does have an electric range of 15 miles and a top speed of 21 mph.

    So basically it's an electric go-cart you can build yourself. Just like every other electric go-cart. Yawn. The only part that might be worth anything, considering that if you're building something yourself it is cheating to use a kit, is the body, since it looks at least vaguely aerodynamic. But it's not building it yourself, it's assembling something yourself, that comes in a box marked, "some assembly required".

    Kind of like if you have two guys in their respective living-rooms, each saying he built his own entertainment center, and one of them was is made of wood that was sawn, surfaced, planed, and sanded, then fit, inlaid, shaped/routed, glued and screwed, then finally finished by the guy himself, the other was bought at Walmart and put together while watching TV for 30 minutes.

    Does this "story" qualify as a slashvertisement?

  32. Where's the roof? by Waccoon · · Score: 1

    Seriously, what's the point of making a car if it doesn't have some kind of canopy to protect from the weather (even a convertable), and its crash-worthiness is that of a go-kart? Might as well make a trike out of it.

  33. It's a PowerWheels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...for adults! Finally!!! Seriously though, WTF /.

  34. We don't need no kits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I built an electric recumbent bike with the same range. What's the big deal?

  35. Noddy would love it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It fails on both aesthetic and practical grounds. A bicycle with an electric assist would be better. Or better still, just a bicycle.

  36. Shriners. by Polo · · Score: 1

    Shriners. that is all.