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New Coating Technology Promises Self-Cleaning Cars

Zothecula writes "Nissan's "Scratch Guard Coat" has been healing fine scratches on the company's cars for a few years now, and the technology has also made its way into an iPhone case. More recent developments have produced coatings to heal more substantial scratches and scrapes using nano-capsules. Now researchers at The Netherlands' Eindhoven University of Technology (TU/e) have developed a coating that is not only self-healing, but also promises to free car owners of the tiresome chore of washing the car ."

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  1. My car is already self cleaning... by gameboyhippo · · Score: 2

    I just leave it out in the middle of a rain storm and it comes out shiny and clean!

    1. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by camperdave · · Score: 2

      I don't really care about the outside of the car. As you say, rain cleans it away. What I want is an automatic cleaner for the INSIDE of the car; perhaps a mini-Roomba that can climb the seats and get all the crumbs and such.

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    2. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by w.hamra1987 · · Score: 1

      spidery robots crawling in your car, sucking dust into their plastic bags...

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    3. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Rain doesn't remove the oily film and the dirt that's attached to it you picked up from the road. You need soap and some surface agitation to really clean a car from filth. Case in point; those touch-less carwash machines suck balls! Unless it's new or just had a wax job, you're wasting your money on those.

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    4. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by ncc74656 · · Score: 1

      I just leave it out in the middle of a rain storm and it comes out shiny and clean!

      That trick doesn't work so well in the middle of the desert. We had rain in Las Vegas early this morning, and my car's a mess. All the dust in the air comes down when it rains, and it usually doesn't keep raining afterward long enough to wash it off your car.

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    5. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

      Case in point; those touch-less carwash machines suck balls!

      Actually they blow.

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    6. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      That would scare the heck out of me and my daughters. But vacuuming arms built into the doors that activate when you press the door lock button on the keychain, maybe.I doubt it would be all that good though. Crumbs are difficult to get with a handheld vacuum.

    7. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      If your daughters are anything like mine, they are the cause of all of the crud in your car anyway. Robotic spider overlords might solve the problem, especially of they only come out when something is dropped.

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    8. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Rain doesn't remove the oily film and the dirt that's attached to it you picked up from the road.

      You obviously live in some backwards area with an insufficiently low pH to the rainfall.

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    9. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Does Houston, TX count? My car never got a good cleaning after a whole week of morning and afternoon thunderstorms. Big thick raindrops from the sky. If that doesn't scrub the oily grim from the side of a car, nothing will. Not even a hurricane.

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    10. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      As I recall from my last trip through Houston, at least 50% of the precipitation is aerosoled refinery waste and other oily grime. It does come down hard though.

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    11. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      In LA when it rains your car just gets more dirty.

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    12. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Hello, Convertible!

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    13. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Must have been in the 1960s then. For the past 30 years, we don't get aerosol-ed waste and oil from refineries. I know because I've lived here most of my life. Many of my clients are in the Pasadena area including Deer Park. The scrubbing technology is amazing these days. Practically the only thing that goes up in the air is CO2 and water vapor along with light gasses that often get burned up by a pilot light.

      Na. The only major problem we get is excessive ozone from automotive emissions in periods of very hot and stagnant weather. Most of the grime and oily film that accumulates on a car comes from tire tread wear (surprising I know, but it's true), brake dust, truck joint lube, leaky hydraulic fluid and engine oil from the pan. With millions of cars on the road, that crap adds up. It's also why you don't drive for the first 15 minutes on the road shortly after it rains. You need to give it enough time for the rain to wash much of it off the road.

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    14. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by jaymemaurice · · Score: 1

      Same in the UAE. That is often how the "abandoned in Dubai" vehicles look abandoned... at least the ones which are actually in Dubai

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    15. Re:My car is already self cleaning... by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      To be a stickler, the reason you don't drive on the road within 15 minutes of rain is ALSO due to the "natural" oils in the road coming up. And on new roads, it's vastly due to the oils that live inside the asphalt.

      http://www.gov.ns.ca/snsmr/rmv/handbook/DH-Chapter5.pdf

      http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/buses/UpdatedWeb/topic_8/page5.html

  2. Re:In other news... by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...scientists at Nissan have discovered what they now call "Teflon". Updates to follow.

    Teflon's a epic fail outdoors because it has zilch creep strength and dirt embeds itself into it, rapidly reducing its friction and electrical properties to that of dirt. Thats one reason (aside from cost) that no one uses teflon insulators for power line or antenna supports.

    For obvious economic reasons, the "solution" to the surface filth is going to be deployed on HVDC power line insulators long before it'll be on cars, and even then what works for a mostly motionless insulator might not work on a car.

    This is because the nano-sized molecular groups that provide these properties are easily and irreversibly damaged by minor contact with the surface on which they are applied.

    Hmm not thinking road gravel at 75 mph is "minor contact". Even road salt and dust is pretty tough stuff. And windshield washer fluid. Heck just a frog-drowning rainstorm at 75 mph is pretty harsh.

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  3. On the minus side... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    You know, of course, that mankind's lazy desire for truly self-cleaning surfaces will be what leads us to destruction at the teeny, tiny, hands of the nanite plague...

    Just a minor nanite-layer replication error and the next user to touch that self-cleaning toilet seat will be converted directly into a lemony-fresh slurry. It'll be all downhill from there.

    1. Re:On the minus side... by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      It will come from an army or some factory first. Self cleaning surfaces have no need for reproduction, but weapons and industrial equipment have (ok, exponential factories reproduce in a much safer way, if they actualy work).

    2. Re:On the minus side... by EdIII · · Score: 1

      the next user to touch that self-cleaning toilet seat will be converted directly into a lemony-fresh slurry

      For some users that I know that will be about as useful as they have been their whole lives.

    3. Re:On the minus side... by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Just a minor nanite-layer replication error and the next user to touch that self-cleaning toilet seat will be converted directly into a lemony-fresh slurry. It'll be all downhill from there.

      I've never heard that Soylent Green was lemony fresh. Learn something every day.

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  4. Re:Cars? Bah! by vlm · · Score: 3, Funny

    What about self-cleaning teenager rooms?

    2-cycle gas leafblower. House stank of engine oil for days. Boy did I get in trouble. Still hear about that one at family get togethers.

    What happens when on the way to work, you tell a wanna be, engine revving teenage engineer he can't go out until the cat and dog fur tumbleweeds are vacuumed up? It actually worked pretty well other than blowing some pictures off the walls and pretty well terrifying the cats and dog.

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  5. Not a nightmare at all by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    One might say this could be offered as an upgrade, but wow, that would make selling the cars a nightmare (none would be on the lot and would have to come straight from the factory)

    Why is that a problem? MINI already manufactures most cars to order, from color to different interior options. People do not mind waiting a month for a car if they can more fully customize it.

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  6. And robo-fill the damned tank while you're at it! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    It's the inside that's the problem!

    It's the inside that's the problem!

    It's the inside that's the problem!

    Gosh! Money laying on the ground people.

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  7. Google's self-driving car already does this by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just program it up to drive to the car wash, drive through it, and drive back home.

    If Google adds functionality enabling it to pick up stuff at fast food drive-ins, we're all set for life.

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    1. Re:Google's self-driving car already does this by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      What is this concept of "car washing" people are talking about?

    2. Re:Google's self-driving car already does this by readandburn · · Score: 1

      If you're only eating fast food, the life you're all set for is going to be pretty short.

    3. Re:Google's self-driving car already does this by jaymemaurice · · Score: 1

      I can just picture the google car freaking out while going through the car wash "too close! too close! collision imminent!!!"

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  8. Re:And robo-fill the damned tank while you're at i by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    That's why God gave us hand car wash places.

    The one I got to has free wi-fi and vibrating recliners.

  9. Re:Cars? Bah! by Thorodin · · Score: 1

    I did that only it was an electric leaf blower. It does work wonders on cleaning hardwood floors.

  10. Re:In other news... by camperdave · · Score: 1

    That ain't yellow. That's orange. The car beside the tractor trailer is yellow.

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  11. Never Happen in the States by IhateMonkeys · · Score: 1

    This will never happen in the States.
    The carwash political lobbyists and Unite Carwash Labor Employees of America Now! (UCLEAN) will bury this technology.

    Look what happened to the 100mpg ICE engine.

    Won't somebody think of the car wash towels dryers!!

    1. Re:Never Happen in the States by Real1tyCzech · · Score: 1

      Wait...

      Was the the Internal Combustion Engine engine, or the engine that "RUNS ON ICE!!!"?

    2. Re:Never Happen in the States by Real1tyCzech · · Score: 1

      Dang. Was hoping for option #3, the Intrusion Countermeasure Executable engine.

      Ahh well.

      Stupid monkeys....

  12. Alternate Uses by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering if this technology might be used on my brother-in-law.

  13. Re:In other news... by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

    Or an old toyota.

    We used to go a lot faster than that on the back roads when I was a kid. Not safe mind you, but lots of people do.

  14. Cue the lobbys... by yodleboy · · Score: 1

    In the coming weeks lobbyists from the car wash industry, every organization that does a fund raiser car wash and probably from that guy on the street corner that will wash your entire car with Windex for $2 will be decrying this terrible innovation in auto paint. This stuff will lead to nano apocalypse, lost revenue and general dissatisfaction with life. Someone think of the children too!

    1. Re:Cue the lobbys... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      Fund raiser car washes... you just have to do them like this

      as for the guys who wash your windscreen and demand $2 later.. like having a clean windscreen is going to stop them.

  15. Tiresome Chore? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

    also promises to free car owners of the tiresome chore of washing the car

    Having children is also another way to accomplish this, albeit at much greater cost. Once I (and my siblings) turned 10, my parents never washed a vehicle again (until we left the house).

    "Dad, can I watch TV?"
    "No. Now go wash the car."

    1. Re:Tiresome Chore? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't have kids of your own yet.

      I do - A boy and a girl.

      "Psssh." *pulls out smartphone and goes to Youtube.*

      "Hey Dad, my smartphone has stopped working."
      "Yeah, I cut it off."
      "What?!?! Why?!?!"
      "You blew me off when I told you to go wash the car. Now go cut the lawn."

  16. Re:Cars? Bah! by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

    Better to just tell said teen that you've left a $100 check somewhere in there and they'll find it when they clean.

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  17. Re:In other news... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    It may on your monitor, but for all the years it was on television the General Lee has always been orange, and never yellow. Vermillion I have no idea as it isn't a real color. (If it doesn't come in the 16 pack of Crayolas, it isn't a "real" color.)

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  18. Re:What about... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    It's been done.

    In a libertarian utopia, this is the kind of vehicle you'd drive every day!

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  19. There will always be a market for car washing by Nadaka · · Score: 1

    That market consists of men who want to watch girls in bikini's get lathered up and sprayed down.

    1. Re:There will always be a market for car washing by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      I suppose you've never lived in a place where they dump salt on the roads in the winter?

      Around here EVERYONE shows up at the car wash on a warm spring day.

  20. Re:How much will it cost to fix a scratch? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    Spray paint doesn't attract dust. Dust sticks to it before it dries. If you don't clear coat it afterwards, the rough texture will make dust stick to it a bit more easily as well.

    And the paint matching problem is why a lot of off-road trucks are painted plain black with plain brush-on metal paint. To fix it, you just paint on more black and it all looks the same. It's a very practical coating but it looks dull and rough and won't attract the ladies.

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  21. no way by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    what about:

    - dead bugs

    - tree sap

    - particles of hot patch

    there is no possible way to keep these things from sticking. These things require physical scraping and nasty solvents to remove, even from a brand new shiny slick paint finish.

  22. Cars or cats? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Cats always had self cleaning technology. Are they adopting it for car use? Would it mean the car could cough up dirt balls?

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  23. IBM had a similar coating on the Thinkpads by Solandri · · Score: 2

    They coated the outside of the laptop with it, giving it a slightly rubbery/felt-like texture. Whereas regular plastic laptop lids picked up scratches from being slid in and out of cases, on the Thinkpad you could simply rub these scratches out. Dunno of Lenovo still uses it. I first learned of it when I complained to a friend that my Thinkpad had picked up a lot of scratches over the years. He told me about the coating, so I spent about 15 minutes rubbing and it looked nearly as good as new.

    I mention this before the Apple fans start claiming Apple "pioneered" the use of such coatings in computers.

    1. Re:IBM had a similar coating on the Thinkpads by jaymemaurice · · Score: 1

      I love Thinkpads (T or X series) and Toughbooks (CF-19's and CF-30's) and have always felt I got my money's worth from them.

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    2. Re:IBM had a similar coating on the Thinkpads by zined · · Score: 1

      i love Technology money

  24. The outside of the car is not where this is needed by MiniMike · · Score: 1

    What I really want to know is will this technology work to keep the kid's car seats clean? And all other objects within 3 feet? And maybe the kids themselves? FYI, leaving the kids out in a rain storm does not leave them shiny and clean. Um, so I hear.

    Also the article has no info on the UV/chemical resistance of this coating, or how often it would have to be reapplied. Where are the details?

  25. That sucks! by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    It will kill the summer time tradition of girls having a "bikini car wash". Oh the humanity!

  26. It's the mud by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

    I live in a farm, I have to drive miles and miles of dirt road to get to the nearest tarmac pavement thoroughfare

    The biggest "dirt" on my car are DIRT itself - that is, soil and mud, caking on the side and beneath of my car

    As they dried, they got hard

    Even if I stray them off, they still leave the reddish stain behind
     

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  27. Dimple cars by kybred · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering why no one makes a 'dimpled' car, a la Mythbusters. Seem like a good idea for a fiberglass 'kit car' manufacturer.

  28. I have another solution by russotto · · Score: 1

    I just let my car remain dirty. In addition to being easier, this leaves a protective layer of dirt covering the paint film. (I do remove bird droppings, however)

  29. acid rain. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    acid rain could help, maybe the dude lives in china.

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  30. can i be the pessimist by KingBenny · · Score: 1

    and ask how many people are employed in a carwash worldwide ?

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