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Google Scrambles To Restore Google Talk From Outage

alphadogg writes "Google Talk, a desktop and mobile text and voice chat service used by many Google Gmail customers, suffered a widespread outage Thursday morning that the company said was affecting 'a majority of users.' The outage, first reported by Google a little before 7am eastern time, was being restored about 4 hours later, according to Google. Meanwhile, users of the downed cloud service took to Twitter and other avenues to voice their displeasure." Update: 07/26 16:24 GMT by T : wiedzmin writes "It looks like Twitter is experiencing an outage. leaving users unable to access the site on Thursday morning. I wonder if it's related to the Google Talk outage at all, but one thing is for sure — this has stopped a slew of complaints about Google Talk on Twitter. If Twitter is down, where do you tweet about that?"

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  1. Meanwhile by benjymous · · Score: 5, Informative

    Twitter seems to have gone down too

    http://status.twitter.com/

    Mass internet implosion?

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    1. Re:Meanwhile by davidbrit2 · · Score: 3

      The machine stops.

    2. Re:Meanwhile by stevegee58 · · Score: 1

      Feer the whale of fail.

    3. Re:Meanwhile by aix+tom · · Score: 2

      It all runs in "The Cloud".

      So maybe someone tripped over the cable?

    4. Re:Meanwhile by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Just fall back to IRC when Twitter dies.

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  2. Er... isn't twitter down? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My tweeters are not going through to the twitterwebmachine, I think the hour of the failwhale is upon us.

    1. Re:Er... isn't twitter down? by benjymous · · Score: 1

      Yup, Twitter's engineers are on it, apparently : http://status.twitter.com/

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    2. Re:Er... isn't twitter down? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What else would they say? "our engineers are sitting on their collective asses and hoping this will soon resolve itself"?

  3. Good to know... by AngryDeuce · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And to think I only spent 20 minutes this morning wondering what the fuck I managed to break this time...

    Working fine for me again, btw. Whatever they broke seems fixed unless they're rolling it out in stages...

    1. Re:Good to know... by Roberticus · · Score: 2

      Same here. I wish I knew of a faster way to get from "The Internet is down!" to "Google Talk and Twitter were out at the same time." But I've become so reliant on the Internet for info that it's a chicken-and-egg problem to try and troubleshoot outages.

    2. Re:Good to know... by Sulphur · · Score: 5, Funny

      And to think I only spent 20 minutes this morning wondering what the fuck I managed to break this time...

      Working fine for me again, btw. Whatever they broke seems fixed unless they're rolling it out in stages...

      It is being phased in 140 bytes at a time.

    3. Re:Good to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really? I would think the typical comeback would be that has proved were at an all-time high (over $4) in early 2008, at the tail end of the Bush administration, and only dropped to $2.70 at the 2009 inauguration because of the big economic collapse we had. But I guess anyone still voting Republican must have a pretty short memory!

  4. It happens...have a backup by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    Patience...and a cell phone. I think we'll all live though it.

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    1. Re:It happens...have a backup by ilsaloving · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What if your cell phone has a data-only plan and you rely on VOIP for your calls? :3

    2. Re:It happens...have a backup by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What if your cell phone has a data-only plan and you rely on VOIP for your calls? :3

      Then you lose a few nerd points for not having a backup system ready and waiting.

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    3. Re:It happens...have a backup by Psychotic_Wrath · · Score: 1
      If you rely on VOIP for your calls then you would be lucky to have Google Talk for your provider. I run a call center and we use a VOIP service. I have worked with several VOIP providers and they would be lucky if they only went down once a year. I use Vocalocity and they go down once every 3-4 months. 8*8 (8 by 8) goes down probably about half that.

      If Google talk has been up for a couple years and if this is their first outage, well then I would say that they are the most reliable.

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  5. News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with..... by djsmiley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And now they are flooding G+ complaining about Twitter.

    People, free services owe you nothing.

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  6. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  7. No Big Deal by erdos-bacon+sandwich · · Score: 1

    M_Zuckerberg: These numbers don't look so good - be sure to inflate earnings by 10% before reporting!
    big_CFO_man did not receive your chat.

  8. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by flagg9483 · · Score: 2

    If you're a business paying for the Google suite then they certainty do.

  9. Jitsi by Hatta · · Score: 1

    Jitsi's still up.

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  10. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nothing is free, if I was an advertiser who paid good money for mined twitter data or injected (sponsored) content I'd be pissed right now, let alone the users.

  11. You know you're old when... by gishzida · · Score: 5, Insightful

    USENET was social networking

    I have a hard time understanding why people would whine about an outage from a free service. As for "paying customers" -- what were you thinking? You're getting exactly what you paid for a cheap service level. This isn't Old Ma Bell. There is no non-carrier VoIP service has the service level of Ma Bell's wired network. .
    Remember that "fast and cheap" is also = "prone to outage"

    1. Re:You know you're old when... by Reasonable+Facsimile · · Score: 1

      I miss the salad days of alt.peeves

    2. Re:You know you're old when... by Hatta · · Score: 2

      It's worth pointing out that USENET never goes down. Your USENET server might go down, but you can use another one.

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    3. Re:You know you're old when... by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      USENET was social networking

      I have a hard time understanding why people would whine about an outage from a free service. As for "paying customers" -- what were you thinking? You're getting exactly what you paid for a cheap service level. This isn't Old Ma Bell. There is no non-carrier VoIP service has the service level of Ma Bell's wired network. .

      Then again, neither does the current pile of LEC's (local exchange carriers). POTS or VOIP, they all still suck compared to the Ma Bell days. Then still again, we aren't paying almost a buck a minute for a cross-country phone call anymore either. Yes, young'n's, there was a time when that was the the case.

  12. Use a proper XMPP service by ickleberry · · Score: 2

    Or run your own prosody server, not the slightest bit hard to set up or maintain. To hell with this Google cloud based nonsense

    1. Re:Use a proper XMPP service by thesandbender · · Score: 2

      Your servers have never gone down? Amazing, how much to get you to admin my systems?

    2. Re:Use a proper XMPP service by ickleberry · · Score: 1

      It will go down when someone in the collitch discovers i'm running it off their servers

  13. really? What are you expecting? by JustNiz · · Score: 2

    Its a great service and costs precisely $0. I'm VERY happy with it.

    No service I know of, including all the ones I've payed A LOT for, has a perfect record of 0 outages ever.

  14. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

    No, but nor do you owe them anything. You can still leave their services if you want. They want users for some reason, so if you leave, you're taking something they want. It obviously isn't much, but that's the extent of your implicit agreement.

  15. Re:It's just Grand Central by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

    "Google Voice" is just a rebranded Grand Central. Google hasn't done much with it since they bought it. Users have been screaming about the same bugs on the forums for years. The SMS side of Google Voice has been especially flaky. Google Voice gets their phone numbers from some low-end third party telco in Northern California that doesn't seem to be properly plugged in to the system that tells other telcos about the numbers and their properties (cell/landline, etc.).

    Google Voice doesn't have an API. There's hack code to talk to Google Voice from programs. It doesn't work too well, because the interface to Voice is (perhaps by intent) API-hostile. If you're using Google Voice for anything serious, get a pay service like Twilio. You pay a few cents per message, but it actually works and there's customer support.

    I believe you're mistaking Google Talk for Google Voice.

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  16. Meanwhile by vsigma · · Score: 5, Funny

    productivity shot wayyyy up!

  17. "Cloud Service" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    users of the downed cloud service

    cloud service

    Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy, Slashdot (and I'm looking at you, alphadogg). Since when did chat services become "Cloud Services"?

    Is IRC a "CLOUD Service"? Is AOL Instant Messenger a "Cloud Service"? Are MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger "Cloud Services"?

    XMPP is a "Cloud" protocol? Yes? Yes?

    1. Re:"Cloud Service" by danomac · · Score: 1

      A cloud in a topology is a networked group of computers. The internet was always referred to as a cloud in diagrams for this reason.

      If you have more than one device at home, you have a private cloud (as viewed from the internet looking in.) The buzzword as used now is basically used to indicate running software on someone else's networked group of computers.

  18. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by Aeros · · Score: 1

    People..its free services, get back to work and do your jobs and stop screwing around on the twitter thing

  19. Where to post when twitter goes down...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    well slashdot of course.

  20. Routing problem? by JDG1980 · · Score: 1

    If both Twitter and Google Voice are down, could this be an indication of some kind of backbone routing issue? Are any other sites affected?

    1. Re:Routing problem? by Macrat · · Score: 1

      Google Voice didn't go down. Did you even read the article?

  21. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by 0racle · · Score: 2

    That doesn't mean you can't complain. It means there is no one at the companies that you have issue with to complain to directly.

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  22. It's coming! by clinko · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Dad, you were yelling numbers in your sleep again!"

    "Son, let me tell you of the Rant snowball of 2012. It started with google talk. The complaining spilled over to twitter. After twitter went down, we all knew it was coming. Facebook, blogs, it kept going downhill. People logged into services they forgot existed to complain, MSN, YAHOO messenger! It was madness.

    I only survived by ranting to a spam bot on ICQ, a time before names, '458253 can you hear me! 458253 It's all down! 458253 I highly doubt you're a Nigerian prince!!!!'"

  23. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by Hatta · · Score: 1

    People owe "free" services nothing in return.

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  24. you guys still use those old things? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    have you not heard of Google Smirk and the competing service, Grinner?

    (oops, let the cat out of the bag, dident I?)

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  25. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by yurtinus · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least they're using G+ for *something*, right?

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  26. SCRAMBLE, SCRAMBLE, all hands on deck! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    RIMMER runs out of the room. Close up of LISTER's face... with no sign of life. RIMMER walks back in.
    RIMMER: Er, perhaps you didn't catch that. I said SCRAMBLE!
    LISTER: (Still half asleep) Yeah, that'll be great with bacon and beans, man. (Lays his head back onto pillow.)
    RIMMER: Look, Starbug is a blazing inferno, the engine room is waist deep in rocket fuel and we're being attacked off the starboard bow by an unidentified craft!
    CAT: (Appearing from under the covers on the other bunk.) Really?!
    RIMMER: No, of course not really. It's a drill. We're pretending that Starbug is on fire and under attack.
    LISTER: And I'm pretending to scramble, man. (Moves his hands up and down in scrambling motion whilst still on the bunk.)
    RIMMER: Look, you've got 30 seconds to get out of bed or I'm declaring you officially dead.
    RIMMER leaves the room.
    LISTER: Good, then we can rest in peace.

  27. This is the actual cause by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm 6 seasons and 2 episodes into the X-files at a rate of about 3 episodes per day on Netflix AND I arrived at work today to find 1 motherboard and 2 power supplies in 3 manager or department heads' PCs were fried due to a power outage AND Twitter and Google Talk are down. So obviously, combining all those pieces of evidence, there's an electricity monster loose in the US power grid.

  28. WTF? by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    If you look at the Twitter status page, it says Twitter Site Issue - 2 hours ago with a short description. Then under that, there's a button to tweet that message. How? lol. But wait, 3,704 people somehow retweeted it according to the counter....WTF?!?!?!?! There are 3,704 magical Twitter wizards, hackers, or people plugged into The Matrix at the moment apparently. Now they just need to find out which one of them used their dark magic to crash Twitter lol.

  29. still greater than 99% up at this moment by rzitex · · Score: 1

    So if anyone using the service actually cared to look at the SLA, they would see what Google actually promises. http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/terms/sla.html still over 99% at this moment. so paying customers only get 3 free days of service. everyone that is complaining on twitter probably doesn't pay, so they don't get anything anyways.

  30. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by CrashandDie · · Score: 2

    We use (paid for) Google Apps at work, to provide us with all the basic tools our employees need: mail, calendar, documents, and last, but most definitely not least, chat.

    The company is divided over multiple countries, most of those in the same time zone. GTalk has been acting funny for the past 24 hours (messages not going through, having to kill the phone app so the browser one would work, etc), but around lunch time today (Europe) things went south.

    To give you an idea, most people here _only_ use GTalk to communicate with others on other sites. Calling is invasive (ironic for a VoIP company), and not everyone has each other's number (nobody but a few know about the company-wide directory), email is easier to miss, and not handy for quick one liners.

    As soon as GTalk went down, we simply fired up another VM and installed the hybrid ircd, and qwebirc client. It only took two emails to get everyone organised in the proper (team-based) channels, and enforced people to use their regular login so people could /msg each other easily. I believe a few teams are actually considering keeping irc as a more permanent solution, considering the ease with which they can communicate as a single team, which is still a massive pain with GTalk.

    All that, to say, some companies pay for GTalk, and actually rely on it. If it weren't for our ability to create a semi-viable alternative quickly, I'm guessing a lot of pain would have ensued.

    Oh, and before you mention Skype: Fuck 'em.

  31. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by Ichijo · · Score: 1

    People, free services owe you nothing.

    As they say, "if you aren't paying for it, then you are the product."

    When we're the product, we should all demand a high quality service as payment.

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  32. Re:News just in "Angry twitterers" flood G+ with.. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    Its not like this is the first time its been down or anything. If your business model is tied to twitter never going down, you deserve to go bankrupt.

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  33. Internet down, not Google by cstacy · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not just Google Talk. This morning around 4 AM I could not reach most of the west coast reliably. I could get to Google (search) mostly, but all kinds of sites and services I wanted were unavailable. The traceoute from Washington D.C. stopped about 12 miles to the west at an above.net router.

  34. MSN was down as well. by Kaenneth · · Score: 2

    MSN had an outage message this morning.

    I am possibly the only /. user to notice this.

  35. My fault by LittleBigScript · · Score: 2

    I typed Google in to Google.

    Sorry for breaking the internet.

  36. Too much stuff through the intertubes. by Erikderzweite · · Score: 1

    The tubes are clogged. We put too much stuff through them!