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Anonymous Helps Turn In Hacker Who Targeted Charity
netbuzz writes "A hacker who defaced and disabled the website of a New Zealand film company known for helping poor children could find himself in legal hot water in his home country of Spain after his attack spurred a Facebook/Twitter posse that included members of Anonymous, who the hacker may have been trying to impress. 'Apparently, one of the (Anonymous) rules is you don't hack charity sites, you don't hack sites of people trying to help kids,' says the owner of the damaged site. 'This guy was trying to impress them, to try and get into their group and boasting about what he'd done — but they turned on him, they chased him.'"
What a bunch of moralfags.
Facebook/Twitter doesn't sound like Anonymous, it sounds like scriptkiddies and armchair activists who just want to look like the coolest kid in middle school.
Remember when Anonymous trolled an epilepsy support forum with animated gifs designed to trigger seizures?
The Moralfags seem to have taken over.
I want to hate them. I believe in following the law. I believe in following the rules of society and government. I believe that doing bad things in the name of good is still bad. Still, it is hard for me to hold Anonymous as evil when they are doing good like this, fighting the evil (of child porn) and injustice (Sony.)
If you are an Anonymous member reading this, then know this, I am against you. I hold wrong what you do and how you do it, but what you are accomplishing... you have torn my ethical code. So here's to you, I raise a glass, may you be punished for your wrongdoing, may you suffer the consequences of your misdeeds, but despite that, may you accomplish the good things you aim for. If you have the balls to be willing to take the just desserts of what you have done and still have the guts to do what you feel is right, then kudos to you.
B) Eliminate all the stupid users. This is frowned upon by society.
Maybe he saw the words,"film company", saw red, and went all vengeful on them. It's understandable, any red blooded MPAA hating citizen would.
...meet teacup.
PFFFT! "Anonymous" IS the cops!
It's hardly even worth trolling.
If it weren't for articles about IP and bashfests for Apple and MS this place would be positively dead.
I'm gonna kinda miss it but I guess it's time to stick a fork in its ass.
It's dead, Jim.
Legal or not, the idiotic "vigilante justice" of 4chan morons has done more harm than good
Raise your glass? Torn your ethical code? Good versus evil! Wow, it's like we're totally living in a Dragonlance novel here.
Sorry, you're retarded.
Stop spending so much time at renaissance festivals or quit drama school--you'll get laid more.
Tell that to the Syrian activists arrested, tortured and bombed by the Assad "government". Tell that to the victim of female circumcision practiced by some tribal "society". Go ahead. Be happy to follow their rules.
It's a deliberate deceit by the alleged "representative democracy" (which is no such thing) that you have a means to change the law. Your "representatives" certainly don't represent you, they only support legislation that they personally want to support, which more often than not is whatever their party gets paid to support.
Unless you are a mindless pawn and slave, fully indoctrinated into believing that you live in a democracy which is completely non-existent, then there is no actual alternative available to ignoring the law and living to your own standard. If you are a good person, your own standard will be more socially just and fair than what the law of the land says is "legal", as that is highly unjust and biased to favor those in power and with money.
I have a theory: this idiot couldn't find an insecure enough (for his skill level) website from a bank or a politician or something like that. So, his vulnerability scanner came up with that 1 site so he "hacked" it, and I use that term loosely. This is approximately the equivalent of walking into my work, saying you're a m@d skillz hacker, and finding that 1 person with their login password on a sticky note on their monitor and saying you hacked their login...and I guess it's like someone really nice or something lol. Absolutely pathetic.
Thankfully he did not have my personality or he'd have had the balls to hack a anonymous-controlled website or communication system instead. Or at least Rick Roll them lol. Trolling Anonymous would be HILARIOUS. Hacking charities, not so much.
Not every individual has a Sterling moral code. plenty do, but sone believe they do, and in fact have a "morality" far more screwed up than the law. Therefore, the law is far better than individial judgments of morality, because the thugs in power have a lot more to be accountable for rhan a random thug on the street. Plus the law gets considered, refined, corrected. The "morality" of some random Joe comes from what exactly? You trust him more than a governmental system continually refined and corrected?
So its a nice fable, the righteous vigilante, it makes for great Clint Eastwood movies or Batman movie. But its a fantasy. In reality, its more often about a deranged fool doing a lot worse than any cop force and judiciary.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The main goal of Anonymous, if such a thing can be strictly defined, is to do things that are funny.
The reactions of offended people are often funny, in a warped way, especially when people display stunning illiteracy or are venerating someone just because they are dead (see tribute pages for utter douchebags like Lee Hotti). Sometimes they do things that cross the line into "Dude, not funny", but that's the nature of a group whose membership is so loosely defined.
For every successful raid or whatever, there are hundreds more that are suggested and shouted down ("No we won't raid your ex-girlfriend's Facebook page, because we're not your personal army").
The only things that most observers can determine about the moral compass of Anonymous is that they really, really hate anyone hurting cats.
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mature adults should visit and post at one or both of these unofficial tor discussion forums, these tinyurl's will take you to:
** HackBB:
http://www.tinyurl.com/hackbbonion
** Onion Forum 2.0
http://www.tinyurl.com/onionforum2
Each tinyurl link will take you to a hidden service discussion forum. Tor is required to visit these links, even though they appear to be on the open web, they will lead you to .onion sites.
I know the Tor developers can do better, but how many years are we to wait?
Caution: some topics may be disturbing. You should be eighteen years or older. I recommend you disable images in your browser when viewing these two forums[1] and only enabling them if you are posting a message, but still be careful! Disable javascript and cookies, too.
If you prefer to visit the hidden services directly, bypassing the tinyurl service:
HackBB: (directly)
http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/
Onion Forum 2.0: (directly)
http://65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion/
The tinyurl links are provided as a simple means of memorizing the hidden services via a link shortening service (tinyurl.com).
[1]: Because any content can be posted! Think 4chan, for example. onionforum2 doesn't appear to be heavily moderated so be aware and take precautions.
Thinking back to the "good old days", when Anonymous members would be sending nice letters like "snitches get stitches" to people who informed on them.
every time I hear someone refer or imply to anon being a group or organization I cringe a little
Watch out, for there will be more and more of those "everytime / cringe a little" events coming !!
Be forewarned !!
Very very well said. Kudos to you.
I thought the majority of the leaders were in federal "pound me in the ass" prisons...
'scuse me, but impress Anonymous? While I have to admit they are great at PR, so far their "hacking" skills are not too impressive. Judging from the data I could gather so far, their targets were so far sites whose admin should be shot. Not fired. Shot. For gross negligence. How did he want to impress them? By showing them he could fire more "or 1=1" sql requests per second?
Don't get me wrong, I don't question that they might be able to bring out more sophisticated attacks, just so far they have only shown that in the kingdom of the blind, even someone who opens an eye from time to time can become king...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
"Anonymous" doesn't have rules. Their decisions to turn on their own are arbitrary.
...Among Thieves
Backup and BACKUP!!!
Sack the IT guy* and replace him with a backup. I am sure there are plenty of volunteers out there willing to help the cause.
* I admit he may possibly be a volunteer himself but nonetheless, he should know better.
Othewise no.
Good to see this "hacker" fits the loser demographic we've come to expect from these sorts of people so perfectly
Ebaum's World hacks the Epilepsy Foundation, lulz ensues [CBS news, April 2008]
Anons ARE sheep too. Sheep being manipulated by sheep; sheep being followed by sheep; sheep trying to impress sheep.
We The Sheople.
that charity is being used so hollywood can do more damage to our rights
the dipshits that did this dont get that and thats why they fail.
chronoss
united hackers association
Tolerance and over-politeness breeds overconfidence, people can just disagree without agreeing to disagree. Symbolism is just bullshit. How about a little honesty.
(Being tolerant of BS is counter-productive. People don't have to be mean about it but do NOT have to tolerate it)
I have to challange the validity of the story. A more accurate report would have indicated one hacker helps to capture another hacker. Pinning the Anonymous label on that person does nothing but impact opinions of Anonymous and if we are going to do that, then lets use a lot of other labels like "Human", "Concerned Citizen", "Activist", "Hacker", etc. etc.
I also would like to know more details about the target charity. Do they provide 100% of the money to the organization/cause that they claim to represent? Or do they keep 80% of the money for themselves as many of those "Charities" do? If that is the case, then the initial attack on them may have been justified and the "Anon" that took him down did not do a very good job researching it.
So is this rule like the rule convicts have about not killing children?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
To suspend disbelief, or pay attention to your surroundings. That is the question.
Support reality.
I noticed that in the Northeast, it's far more common for people to live with their parents well into their 20's due to high housing costs....whereas in the southeast, most people are out of the parents house by 18 if they go to college or 20 if they're working because housing is so cheap.
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Seriously, don't. :P