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Ex-Lulzsec-Head Sabu Rewarded Six-Month Sentencing Delay
hypnosec writes "Ex-Lulzsec-head and hacker Hector Xavier Monsegur a.k.a. Sabu has managed to get his court case delayed by six months – thanks to his cooperation with the US Federal authorities in getting other Lulzsec members behind bars. This news came to light after a court document appeared online, which was filed by the US Government as a request to the US district Attorney. The US Gov put forward an adjournment request "in light of the defendant's ongoing cooperation with the Government." The request has been accepted and now the case has been adjourned till 22 February, 2013."
He will find him and make him squeal. I know a squealer when I see one ....
Just keep doing like you do. Us older nerds watched this TV show you might have read on your historical wiki pages: Star Trek. Not to be confused with the empty visceral current Hollywood movie incarnation.
In the TV show, they had this alien race called the Borg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)
It was a notable work of fiction because of their social organization. Their ships were perfect cubes. You could beam onto them with a landing party, and they wouldn't care. You could kill, abduct, or otherwise maim a Borg crew member, they wouldn't care. None of these actions represented a threat. They are basically the fictional representation of the social order of siafu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorylus
Or, of course, any social insect.
And of course:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
"We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."
Do not change. Do not be discouraged. Do not give in. Adhere more exactingly to the social organization trait of social insects and the Borg.
Resistance is futile.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Does he even have an attorney?
he has to face the same justice he would have had 6 months ago, before he ratted on all his mates?
unless he is going to get a better deal, I'd just prefer to get it done and over with, 6 month delay to me sounds like he's delaying the inevitable, if thats the case, why bother, just goto jail......
however, if the sentence was lighter because of his help, then yeah, I'd see some benefit in that, otherwise....no way!
He deserves it for snithing...
No honor among script kiddies, eh?
Maybe I just do not understand what is going on here, but a delay looks to me like making things _worse_, not better. (You have this hanging over your head for a longer time...) Why would anybody want that? Or is this a case of a common human fallacy, namely if it is more distant, it looks less bad?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
These aren't honourable revolutionaries who would sooner fall on their own sword. These are antisocial children who play straight into the authorities' hands by allowing the latter to depict all dissent as the work of mere mindless vandals.
Who writes this stuff!? Who needs a run-on adjective when you can say with clarity: "Former head of Lulzsec" ?
You know what happens to snitches, don't you? So much time, so few knee caps.
" Sabu has managed to get his court case delayed by six months – thanks to his cooperation with the US Federal authorities in getting other Lulzsec members behind bars. "
your friends will rat you out in a heartbeat if it give them any advantage. Don't think for a second that any friend of your is loyal to you. Anyone can be bought, some can be bought for a lot less than others.
Moral of the story? Trust NO ONE if you are doing nefarious things.
Oh and deny everything to your grave. Deny, Deny, Deny...
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Does not forgive. Does not forget. And tells the cops everything he knows just please don't make him cry again.
124.5 years for ddossing? Should have shot someone instead. Apparently it is more acceptable by our society.
Wouldn't the Prisoner's Dilemma be a textbook example? I'd actually not sell out fellows if I was this deep in this shit. I don't hate him for doing so, he's only human. But can't we see if game theory actually applies here?
Certainly it is true that if you tell someone something, they can always tell someone else, so the safest way for something not to get out is to keep completely quiet about it. On the other hand...
Plenty of small groups of people have done a lot of stuff without any problems, and with everyone keeping quiet about it. This goes from hackers to cells of the Irish Republican Army. There are also many instances of one person getting caught, having extreme pressure, even torture, applied to them and them keeping their mouths shut. The leader of the French resistance, Jean Moulin, died while the Nazis were trying to torture him for information. Certainly there are instances of rats and turncoats, but you generalize it to "your friends will rat you out in a heartbeat if it give them any advantage. Don't think for a second that any friend of your is loyal to you. Anyone can be bought, some can be bought for a lot less than others." This ignores all those who over the centuries have faced life imprisonment, torture, death and have kept silent. Ethel Rosenberg was promised eventual freedom if she testified against her husband - instead she chose to stay silent and went to the electric chair, leaving her children orphans.
From hacking groups, to insurgents fighting a foreign invader, similar mistakes have been made over time. One is trusting too many people. Sabu busted five other people. That means there was a group of minimally six people working together. History shows this is far too large a group to be working together on something like this. In a cell network, four is usually the largest number of people working together. If the network is paranoid about turncoats and infiltration, the cell size is often three people. Having to only worry about two other people is much more comforting about having to worry about five other people. Plus you can be more sure they are reliable type people, you have a closer relationship that would make people second-guess turning etc.
There are other factors as well. These people let Sabu know enough about them to get them arrested, but they (AFAIK) never met him. It's a lot easier to turn against faceless people behind keyboards then friends you have met and spend time with. Then there's the question of what they're doing. It's a lot easier for someone to turn against people for say randomly crashing web sites (not saying they did this) then comrades fighting an invasion of your country by the Germans, or English, or whoever. People are more willing to sacrifice when a higher cause is involved, randomly crash web sites is not a higher cause. Then finally, there is how much the government is interested in finding people to turn, and how much pressure they are going to bear on people. It's easier to keep quiet and do a year in jail than twenty years in jail. Also Sabu's children or foster children are brought up - it is obviously easier to do time for someone without kids, then someone who will be worrying about supporting kids. Of course, this is something Sabu should have thought of before he began committing crimes, but a dumbass criminal turned rat like him obviously doesn't do much thinking.
It is true when you are working with other people, even reliable seeming people, you can never be entirely sure how they will react under pressure. But to say "anyone can be bought", "will rat you out in a heartbeat" etc. is just not true, there are plenty of counter-examples of this, including hackers in the US.
What to do about Jeremy Hammond? He's already gotten one mercy-break for his malicious hacking. Now he's looking at big-time punishment.
He doesn't seem like a bad kid, but if the judge gives him a break, Hammond is just going to go right back to malicious hacking. And you can't believe anything Hammond says because he lied to the judge the last time around.
This is sad, but that fool Hammond did it to himself.
What a piece of shit this guy is.
Of course if he snitches in prison someone
will just kill him.
No one respects a snitch. Even the cops hate a snitch.
If you don't believe that just ask a cop what he really thinks
of a snitch.
I seriously hope someone shanks him in prison. Selling out fellow hackers to a corrupt third world regime is the lowest of the low.