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IT Industry Presidential Poll: 'Not Sure' Beats Both Obama and Romney

CIStud writes "A new poll conducted of IT industry executives and integrators shows a divided and unsure industry regarding which presidential candidate is better for Information Technology to prosper. The poll, conducted by JZ Analytics on behalf of CompTIA, shows 'Not Sure' winning in four out of five areas. President Obama holds and edge over Mitt Romney in every category, including which person is best for the IT industry in terms of tax policy (remarkably), access to capital, tech exports, education and privacy."

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  1. The toilet water guy?!? by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard he talked all faggy, and his shit was totally fucked up.

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    1. Re:The toilet water guy?!? by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"

      Change we can believe in.

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    2. Re:The toilet water guy?!? by burning_plastic · · Score: 2, Funny

      His shit wasn't fucked up - it was retarded...

      And that's fine because plenty of tards can live kick-ass lives!

      Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

    3. Re:The toilet water guy?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

      ...and Microsoft. Fuck you, I'm designing for Windows 8!"

    4. Re:The toilet water guy?!? by BMOC · · Score: 4, Funny

      Came for this, leaving satisfied.

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    5. Re:The toilet water guy?!? by bfandreas · · Score: 2

      You are being served Idiocracy movie quotes.
      Mentioning this on /. is like dripping a poor person's blood into a basin full of Ayn Randers.

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  2. We've got this guy Not Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's gonna fix EVERYTHING!

    1. Re:We've got this guy Not Sure by neminem · · Score: 4, Funny
  3. What's the difference? by blackt0wer · · Score: 2

    Romney and Obama both serve special interests.. the only real difference I can see is that one can prove he's eligible to be President of the United States and the other has used every trick in the book to conceal his true self. Pick the devil you know or the one you don't. Either way, the people lose.

    1. Re:What's the difference? by Kenja · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Main difference is where they fall on support for the middle class & social programs. In addition, while I dont think of myself as partisan, I find the actions of the Republicans in their attempts to disenfranchise lower class and minority voters to be down right evil. Stuff like the voter id laws and redistricting they are pushing through shows that they have such a low opinion of their own policies that they feel it necessary to cheat to win. That combined with their obstinate position of "anything they say, we're against" in congress makes me want to vote against them, if not for their Democrat opponents.

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    2. Re:What's the difference? by Feyshtey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How dare the republicans attempt to determine that you actually have a legal right to vote. The demons. I bet they eat babies for sport.

      On the topic of redistricting, do some homework. Republicans and Democrats both use this is a regular tactic and mechanism to control voting results.

      Why is it that the President can run on a campaign that includes a promise to reduce the debt, increase the debt by multiple trillions, and then have his supporters tell Republicans that they are the party of NO for trying to get the debt under control?

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    3. Re:What's the difference? by gtall · · Score: 2

      Both parties have redistricted to their heart's content when they had the power to do so. This census, it was the Republicans. I do admit the voter id laws are pushed by Republicans to lower lower class turn out which would benefit the Democrats. Both sides are cheating to win. Every little misstep by either party's members are getting inflated to Biblical Proportions (dogs and cats living together kind of thing).

      I also think the Republicans have gone overboard and not at all acting like the loyal opposition. Part of that is because they do not feel they have control over the executive branch agencies and feel they have been taken over by eco-feminist-anti-industry goblins. They are completely full of shit there.

      The biggest difference between the parties appears to be Democrats accepting modern science and Republicans rejecting it believing it is some sort of scam. That stems from the Religious Right. On that basis, I reject the current crop of "Republicans" having been one my entire life. I also wouldn't trust the Democrats further than I can spit a two-headed rat given how they have been lying about the "security" of social security and medicare. I given the Democrats credit for trying to fix health care but in their own weaselly way they sold their asses to the insurance companies.

    4. Re:What's the difference? by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

      Every election comes down to a choice between a Turd sandwich, or a Giant douche

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd

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    5. Re:What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm sure you can cite hundreds of thousands of cases of voter fraud to offset the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTERS THAT WILL BE DISENFRANCHISED OVER THIS, you goddamn moron.

      This is not theoretical. This is a fact. They are intentionally disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters for no scientific reason.

      THEY EVEN ADMIT IT!

      http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/pennsylvania_gop_leader_voter_id_will_help_romney.php

      In short, go fuck yourself.

    6. Re:What's the difference? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are less then a dozen documented cases of someone voting using a false identity over the last four election cycles. On the other hand, there are hundreds of thousands of voters who do not have photo id due to economic conditions (cant afford a car, dont have a drivers license). The people without ids are statistically Democrat voters.

      As for redistricting, I'm talking about changing the rules so that Democrat districts have less time to vote then Republican ones. Granted that got over turned by a Federal judge, but that they tried it is sickening.

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    7. Re:What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do admit the voter id laws are pushed by Republicans to lower lower class turn out which would benefit the Democrats. Both sides are cheating to win

      Can you point to anything even remotely on this scale democrats have done? You pointed out a horrible and indefensible one republicans did, then said "but both sides are bad" without even one example of democrats do it. It's literally disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of people. Literally. This is not an exageration, it is a fundamental attack on democracy so their side can "win".

    8. Re:What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact there is virtually no incentive for an individual to do so? The fact it doesn't happen?

      Voter Fraud if caught is a HUGE crime compared to the benefit a single individual gets from doing it. The benefit an individual gets is effectively zero. Hell, paying people to vote the way you want is a bigger issue than voter fraud.

      Voter fraud only happens on wide scale using things like absentee ballots(which are rarely targetted by these new laws, oddly!). It's not in person voter fraud, and it's certainly not something that these laws would stop.

    9. Re:What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Al Franken "won" by 312 votes in an election where 1,099 felons voted illegally.

      Unless you can show that 312 of those 1099 felons voted for Al Franken, what precisely does your statistic prove? For all you know, all 1099 voted for the other guy.

    10. Re:What's the difference? by Ziggitz · · Score: 5, Informative

      You are full of shit. What you are referencing is called gerrymandering and it is not the same. Gerrymandering is redistricting such that you shove all of the other party's voting block into one area as much as possible to make their popular vote as least effective as possible, allowing you to get more of your own guys into the house of representatives. It has nothing to do with the straight up disenfranchising of voters i.e. putting laws in place to purposefully get less people to vote, such as requiring id, restricting means by which to register and purging valid voters from the registry.

      We have had a wave of voter ID laws in swing states by Republicans that clearly disproportionately voting blocks that tend to vote Democrat. We had Republicans attempting to allow early voting for Republican counties in Ohio but not for urban counties that vote overwhelmingly Democrat. This is isn't typical gerrymandering and there is no whitewashing it. All of the Voter ID laws are to prevent a crime that is less frequent than the rate that people get struck by lightning in those same states. Republicans are doing it, Democrats aren't. If they were Fox News would be all over that shit.

      As for your third line are you one of the members of the Republican party that thinks the Universe was created in January of 2008? Because you are completely fucking lost to reality and have the attention span of a goldfish if you think Republicans give two shits about the national debt for any reason other than a Democrat is in the White House.

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    11. Re:What's the difference? by Ziggitz · · Score: 2, Informative

      No but every study looking into voter fraud showing it as a non issue probably means it's a non issue.

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    12. Re:What's the difference? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Pick the devil you know or the one you don't.

      What's better, someone who is ineffective but means well or someone who is extremely competent but means you harm?

      As someone who has experienced learning on the job first-hand, I think I know which way I'll go.

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    13. Re:What's the difference? by riverat1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The proper time to determine if a person has a legal right to vote or not is when they register to vote, not at the polls. Your voter registration card and your signature should be all you need at the polls.

      If there was any evidence that people without the legal right to vote were doing it in large numbers I'd be more sympathetic to the voter ID laws but an exhaustive search only found 10 cases of voter fraud that presenting ID at the polls would have prevented since 2000. Why would Republicans who have such a problem with over regulation want to increase regulations in this area? It's simply because the people who are inconvenienced and/or disenfranchised by these regulation are more likely to vote for Democrats.

      Obama did not promise to reduce the debt. He's smart enough to know that's not possible in the short run. What he promised to do is reduce the deficit and he has done that. Do you understand the difference between the debt and the deficit?

    14. Re:What's the difference? by riverat1 · · Score: 2

      You know, one of the points of emphasis by the Justice Department during the Bush II administration was to seek out all of that voter fraud you seem to think exists. Despite pushing the United States Attorney's hard to seek out and prosecute voter fraud they only came up with a handful of cases, not enough to affect any election but one decided by 1 or 2 votes.

    15. Re:What's the difference? by riverat1 · · Score: 2

      In my state I've always had to sign the poll book when I go to vote and they can compare that signature against the the one on my registration card. It's very difficult to fake another persons signature.

    16. Re:What's the difference? by riverat1 · · Score: 2

      Please provide evidence of Democrats screaming about massive voter fraud. More likely they're complaining about election fraud.

    17. Re:What's the difference? by riverat1 · · Score: 2

      Shouldn't the time you have to prove you are eligible to vote be when you register to vote, not when you actually exercise your right to vote?

  4. He's the smartest man alive! by hawks5999 · · Score: 3, Funny
  5. Lack of Options by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I posit that the only reason 'Not Sure' was the number one response is likely because 'None of the Above' wasn't an option.

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    1. Re:Lack of Options by trout007 · · Score: 2

      I got a phone call from an automated polling company. I started to answer but then questions at to which candidate I preferred came up. It was only Obama or Romney. I couldn't go in with the test since I think they are both horrible and evil. So I hung up.

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  6. None of the Above by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Put none of the above on all the ballots. So that people can send a message that they don't want any of the candidates in office. If none of the above wins the election then those that are running are disqualified from the election. Time to chose new candidates.

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  7. NEITHER by detritus. · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't just point out Not Sure, the third option was was Not Sure/Neither.

  8. Executives and integrators? by adewolf · · Score: 2

    We all know who they want Mittens and his money buddies. Executives and integrators have no interest is "what's best for the IT industry", they only care about the $$$$$.

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  9. Missed opportunity by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Funny

    A well designed poll would had put CowboyNeal as president.

    1. Re:Missed opportunity by kat_skan · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd vote for him just to see what the talking heads would do when he delivers the State of the Union address and then the Vice President shows up to deliver the same address again two hours later.

  10. No Confidence by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    That should beat 'Not Sure'

    A vote either Romney or Obama is wasted chance for something different. But if you like things the way they are, you can't beat those two.

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  11. Re:False choice by iluvcapra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obama is a convinced Marxist basically, he is completely convinced that the free market capitalism is the root of all evil

    I'm not sure if Obama has taken a position on the labor alienation, commodity fetishism or historical materialism, let alone the Hegelian dialectic as it applies to capital. He might have said something once about the labor theory of value being wrong, or about the relative moral value of M-C-M' transactions in a market, but I may be mistaken.

    This word, "marxism," I do not think it means what you think it means.

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  12. Re:False choice by David+Greene · · Score: 5, Informative

    I fundamentally disagree with your analysis. It displays a lack of understanding of political power and Obama is neither a Marxist or a Socialist. But that's not what I want to address today. What we need to address is this:

    Obama and Romney differ very little when it comes to the actual issues

    You're kidding, right?

    One pushed through a big health care reform which will cover millions of uninsured people while the other is moving as far away from his (mostly identical) program as possible.

    One believes that progressive taxation is essential to prosperity. The other has done everything he can to make the tax system regressive.

    One believes we need to regulate the financial sector to ensure stability. The other has pledged to tear down what little regulation we have.

    One has invested in renewable energy and the other says he will fund "traditional" energy sources and dismantle decades of environmental law.

    One may agree or disagree with the candidates on these points but one cannot honestly say there is no difference between them.

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  13. Re:False choice by trout007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is because you are very closely aligned with the status quo. Romney isn't really going to deregulate banks. He's not going to get rid of fractional reserve banking and go to 100% hard money. He is just going to use the power to benefit a different group than Obama.

    From the libertarian point of view both of these guys just want to use their power to punish their enemies and reward their friends. Would you call it socialist, capitalist, or fascist or some other term?

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  14. Re:Preference cascade by CokeBear · · Score: 2

    Are you trolling? You actually think its a good idea to waste taxpayer dollars going after weed?

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  15. Re:False choice by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    On what basis do you claim that GM was "confiscated"? Did the state ever hold title on GM? It did make loans to GM, and it only tendered these loans with conditions, the sort of conditions any lender in such a situation might do, but it never appropriated or "nationalized" GM in the style of a popular socialist government (you're actually accusing him of socialism, not Marxism).

    If you want to argue about the priority of labor contract claims over shareholders and bondholders, you need to take your argument up with three hundred years of bankruptcy law.

    I'm not sure if, by your standard, there's ever been an American president who wasn't a Marxist. Your criteria, if the GM bankruptcy liquidation to New GM is your predicate, is indistinguishable from an FDIC bank reorganization. We could call it Marxism, but given that Obama is more right-wing than a French UMP deputy, more militaristic than a British Tory, and more free-marketeering than the median German libertarian, I'm not sure where that leaves the terminology.

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  16. Re:Wrong people are being considered by trout007 · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of Frederic Bastiat. He said we are all consumers and producers. We want what we consume to be cheap and abundant and what we produce to be scarce and expensive. A prosperous and free society tends to move towards abundant and cheap things. This requires we don't pass laws that protect producers from competition.

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  17. Re:False choice by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    I guess my point, that by your standard, every politician on Earth is a Marxist, is basically conceded?

    Governments interfering with large bankruptcies is quite common; George W. Bush was no Marxist, but he initiated TARP. If you wanna argue the merits of your approach do so, but your attempts to label your enemies are obnoxious and lacking in any kind of rational basis.

    I'm sorry the world doesn't live up to your standards, but as the saying goes, you can either carpet the earth or wear shoes. (OTOH you might have a point: George Bernard Shaw, A FUCKING SOCIALIST, once said that all progress depended on the unreasonable man. So shine on you crazy diamond.)

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  18. Americans elect "Not Sure" most times by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

    That's what happens when you elect a Democrat president and Republican congress.

    You get a government that can't actually do anything. i.e. that acts exactly as if it's not sure of anything.

    And thus the libertarians actually win a lot of the time, since there are so many castrated governments in the US.

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  19. Re:Those aren't the only choices by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    Shill to whom? I'm reasonably sure Paul is sincere. Just as sure as I also believe him to be ignorant of history, economics, political theory and jurisprudence.

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  20. Re:Preference cascade by Hatta · · Score: 2

    Judging by what happened to the economy last time a Republican held the presidency, can you blame them?

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  21. Re:Preference cascade by Rockoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "redefinition of marriage" - I think you mean equal rights for all.

    Equal rights for all?

    How about all single people get the same artificial advantages as married people, eh? No?

    You don't know what equal rights actually means. First you set up an unfair situation where some people get special treatment. Then you go on about how some other people dont get the same treatment.

    Meanwhile why not just let all people have the same treatment? No? Yeah.. thought so.. empty words from you.

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  22. Re:Preference cascade by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    What's your suggestion? All I see is you think we should get rid of marriage entirely.

    You are seeing things that arent there. Thats part of the problem with your generation. You make things up.

    Why not let all people have the same advantages? Seriously.. why not? Whats wrong with that, and what does that have to do with ending marriage?

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  23. Re:False choice by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    do you have an actual argument

    Yes, Obama is financially conservative and socially liberal and rarely strays far from the center. The reason you think he's a socialist is because you are way out on the right wing, the left wing is over your horizon and it's difficult for you to even see the center.

    I am not an American, I was born in the former USSR. Unfortunately for me I actually had to read Marx and Lenin too

    We've crossed paths before, I believe you are sincere and passionate but it comes across as ignorance and arrogance, unfortunately you routinely believe the most outlandish propaganda and then repeat it as truth. You grew up in a land and time where intense state propaganda was the norm and motivated the behavior of the adults around you. Pravda and Fox are two faces of the same evil, I hope that one day you can get past resenting the adults from your childhood and realize that you've been fighting dragons for so long that you have become one.

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  24. Re:False choice by Cytotoxic · · Score: 2

    Socially liberal? What, because he "evolved" to a position of tolerance on gay marriage? Exactly what socially liberal policies does this government have?

    He claimed he was going to roll back the drug war - and promptly ramped up raids on medical marijuana dispensaries. Is he better on civil asset forfeiture? No, decidedly not. What about warrantless wiretaps? Not really, no. How about the whole stupid USA Patriot Act? How about undeclared wars? Not so great there. How about due process - that's a pretty basic civil liberty. Yet this government has declared for the first time that the President has the authority to issue a death warrant for an American citizen without charges, trial, defense... just on the say-so of one man they can target and kill an American citizen. That's really socially liberal....

    Don't listen to the rhetoric, watch the actions. Other than the soaring rhetoric and excellent image-making, exactly how much different is this "socially liberal" president from the previous "paleo-conservative" president on civil liberties? His position on Roe v. Wade vis-a-vis supreme court nominations? I suppose that's a difference. Hardly enough to warrant a label of "socially liberal" in my book, but hey, opinions differ.

  25. Re:Preference cascade by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    If you weren't suggesting we get rid of marriage entirely, what ARE you suggesting?

    I said exactly what I am suggesting. I take great care is not saying things that I do not mean. I also take great care in making sure that what I meant is clearly established. The only way to fuck this up on your end is if you do not understand these simple premises of communication.

    Apparently you think Homosexuals want to get married because of their respect for the institution of marriage, and not for all the legal advantages that go with that institution. Apparently you are completely unaware that there are any advantages at all? Nah.. you cant be that ignorant.. right? Clearly the problem is that you do not understand the simple premises of communication.

    Homosexuals want to get married because it is the only way to secure these advantages.

    We created a group of elite people with special rights, and now homosexuals also want the opportunity to join the elite group that has special rights. There is nothing at all about "equal rights" in their demands for same sex marriage. They want to join the unequal rights club.

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