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Amazon, Apple Expected to Strut Their Small-Tablet Stuff Soon

After a few years of rumors and hints, All Things Digital says that a smaller iPad will debut in October. And Amazon may be trying to steal their thunder with a revamped Kindle tablet: Nerval's Lobster writes with a report at SlashCloud that "Amazon could be readying a new set of Kindle tablets for unveiling in early September. That's the widespread speculation following the online retailer's invitations to media for a Sept. 6 event in Santa Monica, Calif. Even by the coy standards of most tech companies' event invitations, Amazon's is notably bereft of detail. It will take place at 10:30 AM PST at Barker Hangar, a noted (and quite large) event space. But the timing of the event is auspicious: with Apple rumored to be unveiling a smaller iPad in the near future, and the holiday shopping season a few months away, early September could prove the ideal time for Amazon to whip back the curtain from a new tablet and dominate the media conversation, at least for a few days."

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  1. Not gonna be an iPad by murphtall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ugh. It's gonna be the new ipod touch. Aka the new iPod. It's not gonna be a mini iPad. I wish people would get it right. I mean I know it's just an iName thing but i firmly believe this is the correct iName not iPad mini or minipad blech

  2. Re:no clouds, no thunder by tooyoung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please excuse my friend. Like many technical people, he is under the impression that a spec sheet defines a product, rather than nuances of user experience.

  3. Next Season of Court by rhavan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see it now: Amazon vs Apple, with Apple suing for taking their idea for a 7 inch tablet 2 years before Apple got around to making a midsize tablet. Just because they hadn't made it yest doesn't mean you haven't pre-infringed.

  4. iPad Mini, why not just an iPod touch? by lilfields · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since the iPad is just a very large iPod Touch, why even both wasting my time with an iPad Mini? This won't be the reaction of the masses of consumers that love Apple (for whatever reason, they actually aren't that great anymore,) but I think it's legit. When will Apple actually embrace the tablet medium as something wholly separate from their iPod and iPhone platforms? They can share a core, have apps that are similar or easier to convert, but when I use an iPad I feel like I'm using an iPhone/iPod with a magnifying glass. It just scales so terribly. The iPad is a success because all other tablets are awful, not really because it's something great. The more I experience the iPad, the more I wonder, "why is this still popular?"

    1. Re:iPad Mini, why not just an iPod touch? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2

      I was going to buy an iPad mini/Air/whatever when it came out - because there are a few apps that I know will never come to android and which I would really really like, but after the monstrous patent bullshit that Apple have pulled I can't in good conscience get one.

      I've held out against Apple for a long time, and they make some great hardware - the Macbook Air is, IMO, a perfectly targeted piece of tech. And the new iPad would have been perfect for my needs. Even after I bought a Nexus 7.

      But I can't do it. I can't support these carpetbagging assholes. Carving up reality (via software patents, design patents) and claiming total domination, absolute monopoly.

      It's the capitalist apex - ownership for the sole exploitation of - in the areas of software and design (art). Fuck that shit. What Apple has claimed ownership of, no one should own.

      I can never buy something Apple in good conscience ever again. They've become the Big Brother that they claimed they were in opposition to.

      The perfect mixing of computing and the liberal arts? That Jobs guy sure was a good salesman. More bullshit that you can shake a stick at.

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  5. Who's copying now by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everyone from Archos to Yarvik who already make 7" tablets should sue Apple for blatantly ripping off their IP.

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  6. Amazon should sue! by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clearly Apple is stealing the design of the Kindle Fire in an attempt to create confusion in the market place.

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  7. Tablet? by Altanar · · Score: 2

    Not too excited about a new tablet. What I really want is a color e-ink Kindle. *sigh*

  8. Microsoft Surface by nastav · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not entirely convinced that the game is settled in favor of Apple and the next rev of iPad. I'm extremely curious about Microsoft's Surface tablets. Surface is not in the same exact category as the purported iPad Mini or the next device from Amazon, or Google - it's an ~10" device whereas the rumor mills suggest a 7" form factor from other tablet competitors. Despite the size difference, it's worth noting that the main use-case for a consumer using one of these devices is web browsing, media consumption, note-taking, occasional (and typically RO) access to office documents, games, and platform specific apps.

    The last two categories (games, platform specific apps) give Apple, and Android based devices, a significant first-mover advantage (in that order). When it comes to web-browsing, office applications and familiarity of interface, Windows has an edge (now along with Mac OS X) - at least in the consumer demographic that's waiting to spend money on a new device. If the rumors of low-pricing of Surface RT are true, and they are sold in the vicinity (or under) USD 300, and if the curiously interesting keyboard-and-mouse-on-a-flap turns out to be a seamless peripheral, then there is a good chance that Surface RT + Windows RT will gain momentum. Microsoft has already announced that they will bundle Office with Windows RT - and that's going to be a big deal IMO. This will certainly upset Google, and Amazon offerings - but perhaps only make a small dent in to Apple. Nevertheless, the world could look like an Apple and Microsoft dominated one this holiday season, leaving behind Android offerings. If the sales momentum is even somewhat interesting for Surface RT devices, I think that App developers will start implementing Metro style applications quickly - and developer experience (using Visual Studio and .NET toolsets) has been a historical strength of Microsoft's.

    Of course, my analysis is predicated on two important assumptions - pricing and a great execution on the flap-keyboard, but I'll nevertheless be tempted to at least wait until Surface starts selling before deciding which tablet to buy next (and which ones to recommend to my non-techie friends).

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    1. Re:Microsoft Surface by jbolden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Surface needs to be very cheap if Microsoft wants to make a splash. Microsoft cannot afford another failed product but I'm not sure if they understand how much money a successful product is going to cost them.

    2. Re:Microsoft Surface by tooyoung · · Score: 2

      When it comes to web-browsing, office applications and familiarity of interface, Windows has an edge (now along with Mac OS X) - at least in the consumer demographic that's waiting to spend money on a new device.

      Except Microsoft is releasing this with a completely unfamiliar user interface.

  9. Re:the right price by TwinkieStix · · Score: 3, Informative

    Phones and tablets currently cost roughly the same $200 - $700 depending on features. Cellular carriers hide this cost behind a subsidized contract when a 3g modem is included in either the tablet or the phone, but we are all still paying it. How much more can the price of the phone and the tablet be bridged?

  10. A small iPad will finally make room for others by elabs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think a second, smaller iPad will actually fragment the iPad market and send the message to the world that there are choices in the tablet market. Right now people are patrified to plunk down $600-$800 on "the wonrg" tablet. They know they can't go wrong with the iPad so they buy that. When there are two iPads to choose from that mentality should start to change. People will start asking themselves, "what's the right tablet for me?"

    1. Re:A small iPad will finally make room for others by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think a second, smaller iPad will actually fragment the iPad market and send the message to the world that there are choices in the tablet market.

      If it uses the same resolution as the iPad 1/2, the fragmentation should be pretty minimal in terms of apps and the like.

  11. Re:Better late than never, 7" is very mobile by tooyoung · · Score: 2

    I wonder how Apple is going to spin the fact that every man and their dog was releasing a 7" tablet at the time that Jobs was vitriolic in his total contempt for that size.

    Easy, it will be 6.9". Who would want a 7" tablet?

  12. Re:the right price by bluescrn · · Score: 2

    Nexus 7 got the price right

    Kindle Fire is irrelevant due to being US-only for so long.

  13. Re:I'm not sure I get it by stephanruby · · Score: 2

    I'm not so sure about that, between my Samsung Tab 10.1 and my Nexus X -- I find myself using my Nexus X much more frequently. There is something to be said for that smaller form factor.

    And no, except for reading mangas, I don't read much with it, I mostly play games, I use it as a remote control, or I watch Viki or CrunchyRoll with it. And I do switch to my Tab 10.1 for reading comic books/mangas occasionally, but that size of a tablet is a bear to hold in bed (even if it's supposedly lighter and thinner than the iPads).

  14. Re:no clouds, no thunder by spire3661 · · Score: 2

    A million times this ^. We are at the hardware plateau where user experience is king.

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  15. Re:no clouds, no thunder by firewrought · · Score: 2

    Actually, they could tell the difference; they all said Pepsi tasted better.

    Parent was marked troll, but Pepsi actually did taste better to participants of the Pepsi Challenge marketing campaign, which was responsible for triggering the New Coke fiasco.

    The "rest of the story" (as described by Malcom Gladwell in Blink) is that sip-testing (where participants just sip the two samples) gave misleading results: when enjoyed over longer periods of time, Pepsi's sweetness becomes cloying.

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  16. What shape ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... is that new Kindle?

    It had better not be rectangular with rounded corners.

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  17. Underwhelming Nexus by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

    Sadly the better cheap tablets are manufactured by lesser known Chinese manufacturers. Compare the Nexus 7 to nearly similarly spec'd tablets by the virtually no-name Ainol. http://www.ainol-novo.com/buy-products.html The cheaper models, which should be less expensive than even the direct online price of the Nexus 7, don't have Bluetooth, but all models have the one thing missing from the Nexus 7, HDMI output. Comparable to the Nexus 7, except for the GPU, is the unimaginatively named Ainol Flame. http://www.ainol-novo.com/ainol-novo-7-flame-dual-core-1-5ghz-7-inch-1280-800-ips-screen-android-tablet.html The only thing to recommend the Nexus 7, compared to the cheaper Chinese tablets is the better English, not Engrish, of the manual and possibly the warranty. But I'm not sure, Google doesn't have Amazon's reputation as an online seller. Import duties are another matter, something that probably doesn't matter if you're living outside the US anyway.