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Apple Rejects Drone Strike App

eldavojohn writes "Developer Josh Begley, a student at Clay Shirky's NYU Media Lab, created an application called Drones+ that allows users to track U.S. drone strikes on a map of Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Far from innovative, the app in question merely relays and positions strikes as available from the U.K.'s Bureau of Investigative Journalism. First Apple rejected the application claiming it was 'not useful or entertaining enough,' then it was rejected for hiding a corporate logo. And the latest reason for objection is that Begley's content is 'objectionable and crude' and 'that many audiences would find [it] objectionable." Begley's at a loss for how to change information on a map. He's not showing images of the drone strikes nor even graphically describing the strikes. From the end of the article, 'The basic idea was to see if he could get App Store denizens a bit more interested in the U.S.' secretive, robotic wars, with information on those wars popping up on their phones the same way an Instagram comment or retweet might. Instead, Begley's thinking about whether he'd have a better shot making the same point in the Android Market.'"

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  1. apple just doesn't want to touch that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    with a ten foot pole.

    1. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Insightful

      apple just doesn't want to touch that with a ten foot pole.

      Yep. That's one of the downsides of the walled garden. I'm still annoyed I can't get MAME on iOS.

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    2. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by tchuladdiass · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When you write for iOS, you aren't working for yourself. You are instead working as a contractor for Apple. You are given the job of coming up with product ideas, implementing and marketing them. And you get paid a hefty commission on the sales. But as an Apple contractor, they are free to reject any idea or implementation thereof -- it has to be in line with what they would want to develop themselves.

      If you think of it this way, it makes things so much easier.

    3. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's with all these oldthinkers? They just don't have a bellyfeel for the doubleplusfreedom Apple provides its users. They need more goodthink.

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    4. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The correct term isn't so much "Contractor" as "Sharecropper."

    5. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by fm6 · · Score: 2

      Jeez, dude, if you can't learn to speak Newspeak properly, I'm going to report you to the Thought Police. You need to get rid of grammatical ornamentation and expressive subtlety. Try

      Why oldthink? Apple give doubleplusfreedom. Be goodthinkful.

    6. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      The MAME guys had the iOS app pulled because it reflected badly on the project, not because of Apple's walled garden or any direct action from Apple. ... Nevertheless, not everything you read about is because of the "walled garden"..

      Apple doesn't allow apps like MAME because they run interpreted code. The only way they can get MAME to work officially on the App Store is if the ROMs ONLY come from the App Store and aren't capable of being loaded onto the device externally. That pretty much defeats the purpose since a significant number of those ROMs will be licensable.

      Walled Garden. Sorry. I am able to play MAME just fine on my Galaxy Tab, though.

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    7. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by dido · · Score: 2

      Apple has just become Big Brother in their 1984 Superbowl Ad

      . The irony.

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    8. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      It still bug the hell out of me that I can't find any WiFi diagnostic utilities for iOS. Something like an android version of "WiFi Analyzer" would have been nice. But, Apple banned them all.

      http://wlanbook.com/iphone-wifi-scanner-apps-banned-by-apple/

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    9. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by sjames · · Score: 2

      Big Brother in the novel was quite successful as well, but that didn't make it a force of good.

    10. Re:apple just doesn't want to touch that by icebraining · · Score: 2

      You should tell Apple that, they did the same thing with the ad.

  2. There is no problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple is, and should be, free to prohibit any content they want on their store. It's their store, we shouldn't force them to add stuff they don't want.

    The problem here is the locked down devices. You have no other way of installing things on an iPhone. Which is precisely why I don't own one.

    1. Re:There is no problem with this by aristotle-dude · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apple is, and should be, free to prohibit any content they want on their store. It's their store, we shouldn't force them to add stuff they don't want.

      The problem here is the locked down devices. You have no other way of installing things on an iPhone. Which is precisely why I don't own one.

      Solution: Use Safari Mobile.

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    2. Re:There is no problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We as smartphone users have every right to pressure Apple to accept this application or any other application. We can decide where to spend our money based on how Apple treats us in meeting our demands.

    3. Re:There is no problem with this by Dishevel · · Score: 2

      No you can't. :)

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    4. Re:There is no problem with this by devilspgd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple is, and should be, free to prohibit any content they want on their store.

      Absolutely!

      It's their store, we shouldn't force them to add stuff they don't want.

      Nobody is forcing anything. Yet. For the same reason that Apple has a right to carry (or not carry) whatever they like, I have the right to complain about it.

      The problem here is the locked down devices. You have no other way of installing things on an iPhone.

      And this is the reason I'm actually alright with forcing Apple to carry certain things that they might not otherwise want to carry. If the App Store rules weren't such a moving target, I'd have less of a complaint, but the fact that limitations on what software I can install on my device are added after the initial purchase of my device is a bit of a problem, at least to me.

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    5. Re:There is no problem with this by devilspgd · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've yet to see anything resembling a usable map interface implemented in Safari Mobile. Even Google's is clunky and painful to use vs a native app, so suggesting "Just use Safari" doesn't really scale until it can create as functional an interface as what native apps can do.

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    6. Re:There is no problem with this by cffrost · · Score: 2

      This is fine with me. They also keep emulators out for the same reason, which I'm less thrilled about but I can understand their position.

      Which is: Apple right behind you, and you bent over and paying for the privilege. I understand Apple's position too, but I can't understand your position.

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    7. Re:There is no problem with this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, because charging for work you do is so wrong.

    8. Re:There is no problem with this by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apple denying what you have an option to use affects you. Most iOS users don't know about it, so yeah they probably didn't think about it.

      Denying this app IS impairing communication. Sure, it's not a type of communication you would use, but next time it might be.
      Funny thin is, My Galaxy does many thing more convenient the the iPhone does.

      No that you should change, but don't kid yourself either.

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    9. Re:There is no problem with this by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought that I was pointing out that there are 2 types of iPhone users.
      Those too stupid to know that they have no choice and those that made the choice to not have one.

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    10. Re:There is no problem with this by Smurf · · Score: 2

      Until I read your comment I had never tried to go to maps.google.com in Safari on my iPhone. It's quite pointless since there is a native app for that, but still I find funny that I never even tried to do it.

      So, I just went there, did a couple of searches including driving directions. Let me tell you that I am very impressed with how well it works, especially since it is very unlikely that Google has invested any significant amount of resources in it (again, because it's pointless since all devices from all major mobile platforms come with a Google Maps app preinstalled).

      It is very fast and easy to use. It is also very ugly, but that's easy to fix. I wouldn't use it instead of the native app if it was available, but if a service that I am really interested in performs as good as this web app does I would be OK with it.

    11. Re:There is no problem with this by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      The problem here is the locked down devices

      The problem is buyers remorse. Has anyone ever been misled into thinking that the AppStore was a free-for-all, un-curated software repository? If so, you probably should have returned the device once you discovered your error.

      Its like people are buying a SmartCar, and then getting upset that it doesnt have a truck bed in the back. Seems like the solution is to buy the product that has the features you want, rather than purchasing the wrong thing and then getting mad at everyone because its the wrong thing.

  3. app vs act(uality ) by tidepool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the 'app' is rated as objectionable and 'crude'', what does that make the actions themselves? Are we all so content as a society to hide our heads under our pillows, all the while chanting 'freedom in the USA!'?

    I think the guy had a valid point -- If the app exists or doesn't exist, it doesn't change the data points that are being created (Monthly/Weekly/Daily?) nor the map itself.

    Correlation is not causation - Apple should know this.

    1. Re:app vs act(uality ) by mark_elf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Head under pillows, going to the Apple store to buy more iPads, not questioning the consensus, super-consuming reality we live in. I turned on my facebook today and saw all my friends got new iphones so I went down and got one too! Drone strikes keep us safe, don't ask too many questions, don't rock the boat. Obama or Romney, Apple or Microsoft, Facebook or Google+. What do drone strikes have to do with it?

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    2. Re:app vs act(uality ) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apple's next gadget: iPillow. It censors your news so you don't have to feel like you should do something.

    3. Re:app vs act(uality ) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plus by making more and more of the public realm private they can use the private property excuse to suppress dissent. "It is Apple's product, too bad!"

    4. Re:app vs act(uality ) by fm6 · · Score: 2

      Whatever their official reasons, I doubt that this is about security or good taste or anything like that. Apple simply doesn't like controversy. That's why they wouldn't allow a Bush Leaves count down clock.

  4. Of course they rejected it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Drone Strike app which can't initiate strikes is like an email client which can't send email.

    Apple deserves our thanks for keeping unfinished apps out of the App Store.

    1. Re:Of course they rejected it! by bitt3n · · Score: 2

      A Drone Strike app which can't initiate strikes is like an email client which can't send email.

      Apple deserves our thanks for keeping unfinished apps out of the App Store.

      you say that now, but what happens when grandma hits Reply To All and levels the Maghreb?

  5. patents would be better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I want an app that pops up a map pointer to each court that Apple wages battle in.

  6. Or he could... you know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Put it on a website!

    Why does everything have to be an app these days? If you just want to display information, isn't that exactly what the Web was designed for? Why turn it into something that only a minority of your potential audience can make use of?

    We already went through this whole proprietary wrappers nonsense back in the early days of the Internet. I thought we learned our lesson. Apparently not.

    End rant.

    Oh yeah, and get off my lawn!

    1. Re:Or he could... you know... by Githaron · · Score: 2

      Does iOS or Android even have the native ability to add website shortcuts to the home screens or application menu? If they did, I think people might be more willing to use them.

    2. Re:Or he could... you know... by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does iOS or Android even have the native ability to add website shortcuts to the home screens or application menu?

      I can't speak for Android, but in Safari you tap the icon next to bookmarks then "Add to Home Screen".

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    3. Re:Or he could... you know... by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Works fine on Android too. Just hold and select bookmark. Like any other App shortcut or widget.

  7. obviously by LodCrappo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The big new "magical" feature in the upcoming iPhone 5 is the ability to track drone strikes.

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  8. "objectionable" content.... by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other words, this guy has discovered first hand what happens when content gets censored on grounds of being "objectionable."

    It doesn't matter what the subject is, SOMEONE will find it objectionable.

    Evolution? Creationists.
    Fluffy Kittens? PETA.
    Babies? Malthists
    Picking flowers? Botanical conservationists.
    Vaccination? Antivac-ers.
    Birth control? Catholics
    Lipstick? Orthodox muslims
    Etc.

    If the metric for rejection was "objectionable", then the only way for apple's store to remain open is if it has nothing to sell.

    Rather, Apple has taken the shister path, and has conflated "unpopular" with "objectionable", since the real application of that word would exclude all products.

    As such, anything sociologically or politically unpopular, regardless of factual content, is banned.

    1. Re:"objectionable" content.... by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No contest. However, nobody would be forcing people to install this app. The utility provided is the centrality it offers as a data aggregator. The data is already in the wild. The issue here is that political apps are just another item in that list. SOMEONE will find the very idea of a politically motivated app to be objectionable.

      This is like porn. Some people want it, and pay money for it. Others find it objectionable. Rather than create a dedicated "restricted" section in the app store for such items (political apps, pornographic items, etc) apple has determined its own set of "decency", and "objectional" metrics which are poorly defined and purposefully ambiguous. The language used can be used to exclude any product, including fluffy kittens.

      It is one thing to say "I don't want to sell porn." It is entirely another to say "I am the only store in town, I actively destroy rival stores, and I don't want you to be buying porn because it is dirty, dirty filth."

      Getting such things on an idevice is a lot like buying crack; you have to use methods that are less than reputable or proper to get them. In some cases, apple may brick your device for posession.

      Simply because the app is political in nature does not mean that nobody would want it, or that nobody would find it desirable or useful. The fact that it is unpopular with the mainstream popular culture should not be grounds for exclusion. It should be "restricted", so people who don't want to see the add don't have to unless they actively look for it, but it shouldn't be banned.

    2. Re:"objectionable" content.... by Hatta · · Score: 2

      SOMEONE will find the very idea of a politically motivated app to be objectionable.

      I find the very idea of censorship objectionable.

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  9. Not a government website! by uslurper · · Score: 2, Informative

    The description of the article is misleading..
    "available from the U.K.'s Bureau of Investigative Journalism."

    -makes it sound like it is a government-sponsored website when it is fact a privately owned and operated site.

    from the site:
    "About the Bureau
    The Bureau of Investigative Journalism is a not-for-profit organisation based at City University, London. The Bureau bolsters original journalism by producing high-quality investigations for press and broadcast media with the aim of educating the public and the media on both the realities of today’s world and the value of honest reporting."

    "Donations
      The Bureau was established with a £2 million donation from the David & Elaine Potter Foundation. We have also received funding from the Andrew Wainwright Reform Trust, and the Green Park Foundation (based in the US).
    Media income
      We have received part payment for our stories from the BBC, Channel4, Al Jazeera, ITN, The Mail on Sunday, The Sunday Times, The Guardian and The Daily Telegraph.
    Non media income
      We have received monies from Oxfam.
    City University
    The Bureau receives subsidised office space and facilities from City University. The Bureau has an ongoing relationship with City University’s Department of Journalism which includes offering work experience and internships to its journalism students. Senior members of the Bureau’s staff guest lecture at the department.
    Google
    The Bureau receives free email and document-sharing services from Google.
    Simons Muirhead & Burton Solicitors
    The Bureau has a relationship with Simons Muirhead & Burton, one of London’s leading law firms. The firm provides a comprehensive range of legal services particularly to those in the media. It advises the Bureau on a wide range of legal issues, with some of the work done on a pro bono basis.
    Managing Editor
    Iain Overton is employed by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism. His annual salary is just under £65,000 with an additional pension provision on top. He has no political or commercial affiliations."
    also misleading from the description:

    " the app in question merely relays and positions strikes as available"
    -the app writer may not have permission to relay this information:
    also from the site:
    "Steal our stories
    The Bureau of Investigative Journalism is an independent, not-for-profit organisation that carries out research in the public interest. Unless otherwise stated our articles and graphics can be republished without charge. However, there are a few things we ask you to bear in mind:
    - If republishing online please link to us and include all of the links from our story.
    - Our material cannot be sold separately.
    - Photographs and video cannot be republished without specific permission from the licence holder.
    - If quoting from our research the Bureau of Investigative Journalism must be credited.
    The Bureau is licenced under Creative Commons, which provides the legal details. "

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  10. he just now considers android? by LodCrappo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Begley's thinking about whether he'd have a better shot making the same point in the Android Market.'"

    He'd be allowed to try. Considering there are considerably more Android users than iThing users, he'd also have a bigger impact if his app was popular.

    Freedom: it's not really so bad, despite what Apple would have you believe.

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    1. Re:he just now considers android? by Dr+Fro · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Kind of like reverse psychology crossed with Barbara Streisand?

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  11. It is 'objectionable and crude' by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Informative

    to question or challenge US authority. He should be grateful his house isn't on the map.

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  12. Re:First Mistake: making it political by JustOK · · Score: 2

    The pigs represent THE MAN, man.

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  13. Is there a definitive list of blocked apps? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is anyone keeping track of the apps that Apple has forbidden from the appstore?

    I used to be reduced to pointing at the bouncy-boobs type apps (shake the phone and watch a girl's tits bounce) until recently when a friend had to deal with an abusive spouse.

    I went looking for an iphone app that records video and audio with the screen turned off - she wanted evidence of him being violent - but as far as I could tell apple doesn't permit such apps. There are some available in the jail-break version of the appstore, but jail-breaking is not an option for the typical battered woman.

    Then we went looking for an app that would automatically forward all received text messages to an email address, because the guy likes to send threatening texts and it would be helpful to automatically archive them. Again no go - apparently you have to cut-n-paste them one at a time or rely on a significant level of technical expertise to manually extract them from the icloud(?) backups of the phone.

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  14. Exactly by Tim+Ward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem is of course the current namby-pamby nanny-state commie liberal president you've got, who insists on signing every drone death warrant personally.

    A real red blooded conservative president, who upheld the US citizen's right to bear arms properly, would allow users of the app to kill foreigners with drones as easily as they are currently allowed to kill fellow Americans with handguns.

    1. Re:Exactly by sartin · · Score: 2

      would allow users of the app to kill foreigners with drones as easily as they are currently allowed to kill fellow Americans with handguns.

      I assume that would be through an in-app purchase? What an awesome way to work on deficit reduction.

    2. Re:Exactly by anagama · · Score: 2

      Obama has launched twice as many drone strikes in 3 years as Bush launched in 8!

      Bzzzt.

      Bush: 52
      Obama: 291

      That's 5.6x Bush's score in half the time.

      http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/projects/drones/

      That means he's killed twice as many terrorists.

      That's pretty easy when you define "militant" to mean any male of military age irrespective of the beliefs, actions, or record. Essentially, all you have to be to be counted as a terrorist is be a non-infant male, but it sure sounds better in the headlines to say "militant" than "random innocent male kid".

      http://www.salon.com/2012/05/29/militants_media_propaganda/

      On the downside, he's killed twice as many innocent bystanders.

      This is especially easy to do when one employs the classic terrorist tactic of a second bomb going off to get the rescuers or gangland notions that shooting up a funeral is a moral thing to do.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/20/us-drones-strikes-target-rescuers-pakistan

      But hey -- he passed the Lilly Leadbetter Act! O-ba-ma!

      (How's that lesser evil workin' out for ya?)

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    3. Re:Exactly by fm6 · · Score: 2

      You're assuming that I share your view of Obama as evil and a betrayer of his principles. I disagree with many of his policies, but I don't believe that any leader of a major power can act as pure-mindedly as you want them to. Indeed, some of the worst evils in history are committed by people who insist on moral purity.

      The difference between Obama and the fool you choose to paraphrase is not between lesser and greater evils. It's a difference between an intelligent, well-educated person who's doing the best he can despite his moral errors and a person of limited intelligence and education who can't sustain a train of thought that doesn't end with a cute punchline.

      Really, there were three choices: I could vote for some third party zealot whose motives are pure but whose ability to influence events are nonexistent (that's true even if, by some miracle, we actually elected the zealot); an idiot whose rise to power would have represented my worst nightmares; and a guy who went on to do things I have moral qualms about but who has managed to accomplish stuff I consider important, Easy choice.

      You obviously disagree, judging from your big list on nothingchanged.org. I could try to explain to you why I think your list is BS, but I doubt that it would be a productive.

  15. bogus reason by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the latest reason for objection is that Begley's content is 'objectionable and crude' and 'that many audiences would find [it] objectionable.

    There are "many audiences" that would find the content on the Adult Swim app "objectionable and crude", too, but Apple doesn't have a problem with that.

    Here's the reason walled gardens are bad for you: Because you don't get to choose how to use your own device.

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    1. Re:bogus reason by cffrost · · Score: 2

      There are "many audiences" that would find the content on the Adult Swim app "objectionable and crude", too, but Apple doesn't have a problem with that.

      Well that's made by a corporate partner, so that's different, you see? Same deal with Playboy.

      Here's the reason walled gardens are bad for you: Because you don't get to choose how to use your own device.

      Terror talk, eh? Clearly you need to think different harder.

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  16. Re:First Mistake: making it political by Knuckles · · Score: 2

    I'm not surprised that Apple has rejected an App that has the purpose of getting people interested in the author's own political agenda.

    There's a Mitt Romney app (and other politicians), apps for newspapers and TV news channels galore, and lots and lots of other apps that are about one political agenda or other. How is this one different?

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  17. Welcome to the App Store by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an iOS developer, and keep in mind when you read this that there is an entire industry of developers whose business plan is to submit pointless novelty/spam games and apps to the App Store as fast as humanly possible. Because of this, Apple has made it so you can't submit any app that simply aggregates web content or has limited functionality, and I think it's good for the App Store to impose this. On the iOS forums I follow, people get rejected constantly for simple aggregator apps like this.

    So being a bit of a collector of these spam apps and having seen a lot of them, I don't really blame Apple for not being able to tell the different between those spam apps and this -- which maybe deserves a bit more consideration than the average spam aggregator app. I blame the app spammers who have wrecked the system, not Apple.

    And anyway, geez, just make the project a webpage and twitter account and it has the same effect and you aren't limited to iOS. Oh, but then it's not as "cool" because it's not an iPhone app!

  18. Legal right != good decision by INowRegretThesePosts · · Score: 2

    Apple is, and should be, free to prohibit any content they want on their store. It's their store, we shouldn't force them to add stuff they don't want.

    There is a large difference between "I have a legal right to do it" and "It is good to do it".

    I have a legal right to say black people are inferior. Does not mean it is a good idea.

    Apple has the legal right to censor political/philosophical/religious ideas (see [1]), but at the same time we have a right and maybe even a duty to boycott it.

    1. http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/the-movement/latest-updates/10-12-23/Apple_Says_No_to_Manhattan_Declaration_App_2_0-1562643600.aspx

  19. Re:First Mistake: making it political by cffrost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not surprised that Apple has rejected an App that has the purpose of getting people interested in the author's own political agenda.

    There's a Mitt Romney app (and other politicians), apps for newspapers and TV news channels galore, and lots and lots of other apps that are about one political agenda or other. How is this one different?

    This one is made by some filthy peasant... a mere citizen. The others were submitted by corporate partners, job creators, you know, the real American people.

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  20. Sorry, wrong on two points & conclusion by tlambert · · Score: 2

    (1) Apple won't allow it because it's a general purpose emulator/interpreter; to use it, you'd have to bundle it with the ROMs so there was no download capability

    (2) You'd have to offer it for free, because the first term in the MAME license is "Redistributions may not be sold, nor may they be used in a commercial product or activity."

    Together, this means the MAME developers most certainly would not help you out unless you were laying out the costs ($99 + time and effort) with no way of recouping your sunk costs. This would also include an inability to recoup costs for ROM license fees for the game(s) you include, so basically you'd be paying the ROM owner a per copy royalty for a free download, which means an uncapped bleeding expense for you.

    So its a bit more than a matter of "not bothering".