NYC Taxi Commission Nixes Cab-Hailing Apps
An anonymous reader writes "Uber is a company that creates apps to connect taxi and limo drivers with potential passengers. They've been rapidly expanding their service to cities across the country, but they're now getting pushback from New York City. This week the NYC Taxi and Limousine Commission issued a public notice saying, 'A driver must not use any electronic communication device (PDF), including a cell phone or smartphone running a hail or payment app, while operating a taxicab.' The commission says its current contractual obligations forbid the use of such technology."
I use it all the time in DC. I probably use it more because of the fact the DC government doesn't like it.
They can use it while they're parked waiting for a fare, but not while driving. Makes sense for safety.
might not mean can't use while pulled over. Ambiguous.
is the radio considered an electronic communication device? it is one-way communication for sure, but "communication" nonetheless.
Why is there a commission to decide whether I can drive you from A to B for a fee and whether you can call or text me on the phone to arrange it and to whom I have to pay a very substantial annual fee for the privilege of doing so? The answer: its a legalized racket, just like all business licensing.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
So if you can't use electronics, how do you dispatch them? Do they return to the depot after every pickup to receive little strips of paper? (-_-)
Another case of capitalism gone full retard -- "We forbid you to use anything that could make your job more efficient and convenient for your customers!"
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So the real issue is that, as usual, the cabbies don't want to go to Brooklyn (cause that's where all the hipsters likely to use this app live).
I wonder if the conflict of interest is with "black" car livery service? They can't pick up hails (don't know if that changed, it was always reserved for medallion carrying "yellow" cabs), but this might enable them to if an app "requests" their services.
This is all about turf wars between limo services and cab services in NY. Basically a cabbie in new york, according to regulations, HAS to stop for anybody that hails them. Where as a limo service is appointment only and CAN'T stop to pick people up on the road ... they have to only pick up the appointment.
So bascially, this app makes cabbies into a pusedo limo service. They by pass people on the street hailing them, and go pick up the appointment.
There is a bunch of noise about discrimination against people without smart phones ... but what is boils down to is, once again, government regulations stopping free enterprise. They need to drop this silly non-sense about limo service vs taxi service.
Almost no chance of a fare back to manhattan means wasted time and money
I know a few a few cab drivers.
They nixed it and rightfully so. Think of all the damage caused by hail. Their insurance premiums would go through the roof in no time!
The game.
This is why people have trouble trusting the government, their only interest is to sell Medallions for their own profit.
"A good friend will bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, 'damn....that was fun!'"
... A driver must not use any electronic communication device ...
I am not from New York, but I had been to New York (and NYC) many times, and have lost count of the times I took NYC cabs
I remember that in the NY cabs that I were in, even during pre-cellphone era, there was already an "electronic communication device" - a CB-radio
And the cabbies were using it to communicate with their HQ and to others, even while they were zig-zagging in and out of the city traffic!!
It's totally ridiculous to place a ban on the use of "electronic communication device" while they were already using "electronic communication devices" !
Unless of course, the CB radio they were using were not electronics - maybe they are still using vacuum tubes in their CeeBees
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These laws exist to keep people safe from gypsy cabs that may extort or kidnap you.
Umm... Come again?
Forgive me for suspecting you as an NYC "Taxi and Limousine Commission" shill, but seriously? Kidnapping???
And seriously, as a resident of lower Manhattan, I can tell you that Boston and LA have nothing on NYC!
Yeah, no kidding! Apparently, they lack the same risk of kidnapping, that taxi companies can have a government-sponsored monopoly as a way to minimize the risk to people in need of a ride. Daaaamn, remind me never to visit NYC again!
I realize that in some parts of the world (Middle East, Africa, Central America) you may well end up kidnapped and ransomed. I've taken plenty of unregulated cabs in the US, however, and at worst, I've found they take a slightly longer route than optimal - Which still comes out way cheaper than the average NYC cab ride. Can you sense my lack of sympathy here?
It's not a perfect system, but it's pretty fucking simple: You want to hail a cab, look for the medallion.
That would work much better if NYC didn't arbitrarily restrict the medallion supply. If medallions were available to anyone who met a basic set of requirements (legal residence, good driving record, regular inspection of vehicle) then that would be sensible regulation. Refusing to issue any new medallions since 1937 is not.
> The commission says its current contractual obligations love of money forbid the use of such rival technology.
Fixed that for you.
> "The TLC is eager to pave the way for taxi riders to take advantage of the most up-to-date technology, including smartphone apps that may help passengers locate available taxicabs more quickly," said TLC chairman, "once we work out how to get a piece of the action".
Oh wham!
All over the world taxi licenses earn government ridiculous amounts of money. The poor bastards that drive the cabs see little of that, with the licences purchased by wealthy investors. Government workers (or quasi-government commissions) forget their mission is to ensure the public has access to taxis. Unfortunately whenever large sums of money are waved under a government workers nose they focus on getting some for themselves. Sure they can't legally pocket it themselves, but organizations bringing in cash get star treatment and some of that cash hangs around as benefits for government workers. https://www.npr.org/2011/11/15/142301617/nyc-taxi-medallions-fetch-unbelievable-returns
By "medallion", is it meant a "virtual" medallion, like say, a medallion number, and all your info is on record with the city, and you can get a new certificate if you lose yours?
Or is it really a gold/copper/bronze/whatever chunk of metal, and you're supposed to hang this $1 million item off your rearview mirror so the police can easily verify you have it? That's pretty crazy, considering that it's only a, what, $50 piece of glass between a thief and $1 million?
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