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Go Daddy: Network Issues, Not Hacks Or DDoS, Caused Downtime

miller60 writes "GoDaddy says yesterday's downtime was caused by internal network problems that corrupted data in router tables. 'The service outage was not caused by external influences,' said Scott Wagner, Go Daddy's Interim CEO. 'It was not a 'hack' and it was not a denial of service attack (DDoS). ... At no time was any customer data at risk or were any of our systems compromised.' The outage lasted for at least six hours, and affected web sites and email for customers of the huge domain registrar."

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  1. Had to Take the Network Down... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... so the NSA could install their backdoors.

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  2. anonymous U So haxor!!! by DeTech · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, anonymous was so good they were undetectable... And they almost got away with it too. To bad anonymous caught them.

  3. Doesn't Really Help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This just makes them look even less competent as a service provider, if the problem was purely internal then.

    1. Re:Doesn't Really Help by dyingtolive · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yup.

      "Good news everyone, we weren't compromised. We're just incompetent!"

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    2. Re:Doesn't Really Help by AlienSexist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One way to be sure... hit em' again!

    3. Re:Doesn't Really Help by pspahn · · Score: 2

      Or possibly a way for them to market their own Premium DNS offerings. I understand that users on Premium DNS were hardly affected (according to a co-worker who was monitoring the whole thing yesterday and had a number of Premium DNS users).

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    4. Re:Doesn't Really Help by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      Or possibly a way for them to market their own Premium DNS offerings. I understand that users on Premium DNS were hardly affected (according to a co-worker who was monitoring the whole thing yesterday and had a number of Premium DNS users).

      Odd. I saw the reverse: our company's domain which is on GoDaddy's Premium DNS servers was affected, while a colleage's personal domain on the standard DNS servers was unaffected.

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    5. Re:Doesn't Really Help by fermion · · Score: 2

      I commend them for being hones with their mistake. As an alleged premier top level domain name reseller, though, we would expect that they had the facilities to prevent both internal errors and external attacks. If I were superstitious, I would say something in the Juju right now. Lots of computer stuff going down.

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    6. Re:Doesn't Really Help by caknuckle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This just makes them look even less competent as a service provider, if the problem was purely internal then.

      It might make them look less competent, but on the flip side suggests an "isolated" incident, and that it won't likely happen again, whereas if it's hackers you as a customer may wonder when the next hack will happen and what effect it will have on your websites, DNS etc. I.e. we better move off before it gets targeted again.

    7. Re:Doesn't Really Help by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It makes GoDaddy appear incompetent to geeks and computer-savvy users. However, to the average person that does not know much about computers, they will accept it as a computer problem that 'just happens'.... just like all of the errors that they have on their home computers that supposedly have no cause. As long as GoDaddy makes the problem sound really technical while saying they know exactly what caused it and know how to quickly implement a solution that prevents future instances, they will appear competent to the average computer user. After all, to an average user, an admin's ability to solve a problem that sounds complex will make the admin's skill sound really impressive.

      Remember many of GoDaddy's customers are individuals and small businesses that have mediocre computer skills that rely on a simplified WYSIWYG tool. To them, evil hackers that steal information are much worse than an annoying problem that just happens because computers all have problems (in their experience). As long as the customer doesn't realize that it was a problem that should not have occurred and it was only caused by incompetence, then they are less likely to lose those customers.

    8. Re:Doesn't Really Help by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful


      "Good news everyone, we weren't compromised. We're just incompetent!"

      And we already knew they were evil , so ....

      GoDaddy for Congress!

      (corporations are people, my friend)

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  4. If you believe that... by Rix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then I've got a fully alive not dead elephant to sell you.

    1. Re:If you believe that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How does it help GoDaddy to tell everyone that they are incompetent instead of admitting they were attacked?

  5. Perhaps... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if they'd pay some of that massive advertising budget to competent employees, quality software and proper maintenance. ... naw, bring on the chick ads.

    So that's, what, two big hits for Go Daddy this year?

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  6. Re:Lies by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to GoDaddy's incompetence just as easily.

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  7. That makes more sense by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was no other indication of a DDOS than the "I did it" tweet by a lone troll. To knock out someone as big as Godaddy for as long as they did would've required an epic-scale DDOS and you'd think something like that would've been noticed by their upstream providers.

    This is the second time this week an Anonymous troll lied about an attack (the other one was stealing iPad device ID from FBI)... Anonymous's sterling reputation is being tarnished!

  8. Re:Go away GoDaddy by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, cut them some slack. Lying in public is one of the few pleasures of having a customer base that consists of people who don't know better...

  9. Re:Not so sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because someone on twitter said that they did it and everyone believed them?

  10. Another KKR debacle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Disclaimer: I work for a company that got "bought out" by KKR, just like GoDaddy.

    Since KKR bought them out, GoDaddy has jacked up their prices (to make up for the billions I'm sure KKR "leveraged" out of GD for their execs and shareholders), took a pro-SOPA and PIPA stance (which garnered them a bit of a boycott), and is now having infrastructure problems. I haven't heard, but I'd bet there were layoffs and some brain-drain shortly after the KKR mafia took over.

    Go figure.

    If you own stock in a company that is being eyed by KKR (think: Bain Capital) dump it quick. If you're a customer, make plans to jump ship.

  11. Re:Lies by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's worse: Not being able to keep your network running when someone actively tries to disrupt it, or not being able to keep your network running under otherwise perfectly normal conditions?

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  12. Re:Wow by kwalker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You would think so, but the company I work for uses GoDaddy (At least up until today we did, we may be going elsewhere now) for our registrar, but nothing else. We run our own DNS servers, our own web servers and load balancers, our own mail servers, etc. but we got scads of complaints about "the website is down" yesterday during the event. We traced it back to external DNS failures, but I have full-time monitoring on all of our systems and nothing on our end even hiccuped. It worked for some locations but not others.

    It makes no sense to me either.

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  13. Well duh ... by jest3r · · Score: 3, Funny

    If one "anonymous" person could take down 5 million websites then we might as well give up on the Internets ...

    Then again it could have been one GoDaddy Admin who accidentally misconfigured the routing tables that caused all of this ... I'd probably want to be anonymous if I was that person as well ...

  14. 99.999% Doesn't mean what you think it means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    They were down for 6 hours but still claim 99.999% uptime. But unless they have been around for more than 57 years, I dont' see how that is possible. Wonder what funky math they use to back up that number.
      https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=5+hours+%2F+(1-99.999%25)

  15. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You sure it was not say a SSL issue with certs issues by them - they now are a CA as well. The crl is a crl.godaddy url -- depending on browser, if crl is not available then ssl can be flagged as invalid.

    A registrar of a domain has NOTHING to do with the resolving of your domain, once it has been sent to roots.

    Do a simple dig +trace query for your domains, where in that line would your registrar be talked too? You hit roots, you hit servers for your tld (org.com,etc), you hit your NS = done. A registrar does not come into play for the resolution of a fqdn - unless they are hosting your dns, or they host the site.

    Now if godaddy was in line for resolution of your the domain your NS reside in, then ok that could cause some problems if they are down.

    What are you hosting on your site? If say ADs or images from other domains dns or site was hosted by godaddy - that could cause some issues if site loading if parts of your page could not be resolved.

  16. So what? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

    To this I say "so what"? When you have one primary job to do - respond to DNS requests for millions of domains that are registered through you - and you fail to do so, it's over. No matter what the root cause is, you caused *millions* of web sites to be unreachable for most people, for a period of time spanning hours. This is not "oops", this is catastrophic failure from a business perspective.

    I can only hope that sufficient numbers of customers will be as offended, and seek more reliable solutions.

  17. Intermittent by Spazmania · · Score: 2

    "Yesterday, GoDaddy.com and many of our customers experienced intermittent service outages starting shortly after 10 a.m. PDT. Service was fully restored by 4 p.m. PDT. "
    http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=410

    Must be that new definition of the word "intermittent." The one roughly synonymous with "total."

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  18. Re:Wow by kwalker · · Score: 2

    Yes, I'm sure it wasn't an SSL issue. It was a straight DNS "Domain not found" problem.

    However, thank you for the idea of looking up the secondary NS records. Turns out our .com's nameservers reside in our .net domain, which is handled by GoDaddy. I'm off to change those to our static IP addresses.

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  19. A lie, but... by stevenfuzz · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't you rather the world think that you were hacked by some unbeatable magic hacking group, then your company went down due to your own ineptitude?