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Wozniak On the Samsung Patent Verdict
dgharmon writes "'I hate it,' Wozniak told Bloomberg in Shanghai today, referring to the patent battle. He thinks the ruling will be overruled. Samsung will of course appeal, and this case will go back and forth for months still, but Wozniak just wishes everyone could get along. 'I don’t think the decision of California will hold. And I don’t agree with it — very small things I don’t really call that innovative. I wish everybody would just agree to exchange all the patents and everybody can build the best forms they want to use everybody’s technologies,' he said."
Show's how little you know, the year BEFORE iphone was even announced, samsung released a little device f700. If you compare the 2 side by side they look very similar so on topic of who copied who first, that would be apple copied samsung.
Er, its not the "decision of California".
First, because its not "of California", as it is in a U.S. federal court that happens to be located in California.
But mostly because its not even (yet, and quite possibly ever) even a decision in that court. Its the jury verdict which is still the subject of several post-verdict motions before the court finally (not considering appeals) decides on a judgement in the case.
"Good artists copy, great artists steal" - Steve Jobs 1994
Show's how little you know, the year BEFORE iphone was even announced, samsung released a little device f700. If you compare the 2 side by side they look very similar so on topic of who copied who first, that would be apple copied samsung.
I hate Apple with a passion but you're just wrong. The F700 came out just slightly after the iPhone. Obviously they both had to be in development around the same time but Apple was in fact first.
The myth posted above has be debunked many times, just use a little Google-fu and you will see.
If you think the patents were for a rectangle with rounded corners then you know very little about it.
The original iPhone was announced on Jan 2007.
The Samsung F700 was announced on Feb 2007 (a month after Steve Job's demonstration) during the 3GSM World Congress, and released on November 2007.
The Samsung F700 may have had rounded corners, but it was substantially thicker and had a sliding keyboard. The UI running on their Croix OS did not resemble the iPhone at all. When the F700 was announced it was immediately compared to the newly announced iPhone by the press.
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Nope, Samsung filed a patent on the design of the F700 shortly before the iPhone was announced. It wasn't released until Nov. 2007.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SGH-F700
Shows how much you know.
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No, Apple's off the list because they're so ridiculously evil nowadays. Their sole goal is to lock you into their own ecosystem and prevent you from doing what you want with your purchased devices, and they're actively trying to destroy anyone they compete with.
Please go and read the USPTO design patent D504889 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=D504,889.PN.&OS=PN/D504,889&RS=PN/D504,889) and then come back to us. That particular patent is **exactly** a rectangle with rounded corners.
There may have been other patents in play, but that one is essentially what people complain about when the discuss this issue.
I, for one, despise design patents. The whole point of patents were to be novel (ie, new), non-obvious (to those versed in the art), and **useful** - that's the three-prong test for a valid invention. Design patents are only allowed on non-functional (hence non-useful) stuff and have therefore mangled the entire inventive process.
"Good artists copy, great artists steal" - PICASSO
See, you can't even attribute the quote right.
And that's why you don't understand what it means. It doesn't mean LITERALLY steal. It means you find something you love, and understand it totally... then you re-make it into something that is like it was but is wholly yours.
It's a hard concept to explain without more understanding of art and creativity... this book will help.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Get it right.
It's Apple //e.
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File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Apple's '677 patent is exactly about a rectangle with rounded corners.
Read it yourself:
http://www.google.com/patents/USD618677
Yeah, he stole that quote from Picasso
"The best lube is your own spit" - Jenna Jameson
People who think you just need to get out of tech.
Go be a lawyer somewhere. Or go into marketing.
Apple lost the desktop war because they refused to play and collaborate with others. They wanted the whole deal for themselves.
A lot of us grudgingly use Windows on the desktop, but at least we have a huge variety of choices of hardware to run on it. If Apple had won we'd all still be using beige Macs.
No the iPhone was first shown and demoed on Jan 2007, the F700 was first shown and demoed at Cebit 2006 (which is in March).