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Pirate Bay Co-Founder Detained In Sweden
wiredmikey writes "The co-founder of The Pirate Bay filesharing website was detained in Sweden on Friday, days after his deportation from Cambodia, officials said. Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, 27, faces a one-year prison sentence for promoting copyright infringement in his home country. His current detention is for an investigation into his involvement in the hacking of a Swedish IT firm named Logica. He was arrested in the Cambodian capital Phnom Penh on August 30 at Stockholm's behest and expelled late on Monday."
... isn't just a matter of hacking a random IT firm as the summary may lead one to believe. The firm in question was a contractor for the government, and was handling a number of important census databases, including personal details about people with "protected identity" (people that live under threat of violence, and the like). Through the hacking, this data was released.
Considering that he was already wanted for his involvement in the pirate bay, the hacking was an incredibly stupid thing to do.
It takes this long for everyone (I mean everyone with a good lawyer who knows when and how to appeal (/keep appealing))
The whole thing is surrounded by weird things. At the same time he arrived in Sweden the (completely) new charge was made public. Also the court hearing was magically timed to occur at exactly the same time as the two journalists that was released from Ethiopia (major event in Sweden), thus hardly no journalists where at Wargs hearing.
Some swedish newspapers have printed articles about it, but nothing major. They all seem perplexed, and are suspicious about it too. Conspiracies, american interests and so on. I guess Gottfrid will have a really hard time from now on. My guess is that he will not be released for many years.
I don't know why it took so long in this case, but his visa expired the same day as he got arrested in Cambodia, maybe that had something to do with it?
Nothing weird at all here.
1) Its best not to make new charges public while the suspect is still outside the country.
2) Real journalists have far more interesting things to pursue, like stories their readers care about. It has to be a really really slow news day for someone like this to garner much attention ... and the past few days have been pretty busy news days.
Since google translate was unable to translate this article. I used bing (oh noes). click, and wait a few seconds.
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/oisincantwell/article15442685.ab
This should shed some light on the situation.
Logica used to be a UK company, but since 2012 it is owned by the Canadian CGI group
from committing more serious crimes to get money to purchase legal overpriced entertainment not including the money I save also keep my children fed. Now you don't want my children to starve or be sold on the black market, do you?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
If he did this, then yes he should be paying the penalty as that is a legitimate crime and uncool.. If he just 'promoted piracy' then no he shouldn't be detained, regardless of the 'law' as its a sham.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
That's my name. Don't wear it out!
Em, no in Sweden its not a crime, moron. How dumb are you exaclty that you can't understand that different countries have different legal systems. People feel entitled to infringe copyright as a form of civil disobedience against criminal cartels who bribe corrupt politicians to instigate corrupt persecutions such as the campaign against the Pirate Bay, and to illegally extend copyright indefinitely.
And just to reiterate moron, the Pirate Bay ripped off exactly nothing, they hosted not a single piece of copyrighted material, they simply provided links, so genius, as an example, do you think Slashdot should be prosecuted for infringing the copyright of every story they link to, well do you, dumbass?
Warg Riders (n, pl.) - the addenda to bills already under deliberation by the Swedish legislature that pertain specifically to Pirate Bay co-founders.
Been going on since the dawn of time. How else would you describe Ovid's work?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Which has nothing to do with whether or not he hacked a company. Just like whether Wikileaks is awesome has nothing to do with whether or not Assange waited until a girl was asleep to have unprotected sex with her when she had spent the evening refusing to do.
No matter how kind you are, German children are kinder.
Why can't these guys man up and serve their sentence?
It's 1 year and it's in Sweden. I love the piratebay just as much as the next guy, but these guys knew what they were doing, and got their shit handed to them.
Now they run around all over the place trying to avoid a prison sentence. It only makes it look worse.
lol KimmoA pizza pizza hagersten fucking billionaire, etc.
People feel entitled to infringe copyright as a form of civil disobedience against criminal cartels who bribe corrupt politicians to instigate corrupt persecutions such as the campaign against the Pirate Bay, and to illegally extend copyright indefinitely.
Generally speaking no. People infringe copyright because they'd rather not pay for music and movies if they can get away with getting them for free. They don't have the quasi-moral justification you suggest.
Wow- it's people like you why I firmly believe we need a system which includes execution of the masses (note: i'm still against it though).
Be it this little bit was wrong/right it really doesn't matter. Copyright exists only because the people allow it. The people have clearly shown (regardless of the law) that they don't support it for one reason or another. This is the masses we are talking about. The willful disregard for copyright by the masses should make one think there is something seriously wrong with the political system. The system is not doing what the people want. It's pretty apparent it is doing the bidding of those with an interest somewhere else. No matter what propaganda you may push copyright should not exist as it is today. You don't need a vote to see it's not what the people want.
His involvement in the hack will be something like 'Pirate Bay linked to trackers of it'. Or perhaps he downloaded and read a copy.
It sounds like they're trying to bulk up a weak case by adding outrageous claims. By doing this is Sweden, it means they don't have reveal the weakness of those claims to foreign powers who might then not extradite him when they saw the bulking.
Several European countries have implemented 'secret witness' clauses. This was used* in the UK copyright case to introduce an unchallenged witness who gave private evidence to the judge. They can be used to create fake providence in a charge that has no merit. Does Sweden have this? If it does, expect to see a secret witness introduced.
They'll wheel in someone with a big sounding title, surrounded by security guards, who'll explain he has secret information that is pivotal, and blah blah blah terrorism, blah blah blah, world at risk, blah blah blah , to create the idea in the mind of the judge that he should find a way to convict the guy even if the law says he shouldn't.
Just like FACT did with Anton Vickerman of Surfthechannel.com to try to get this 'conspiracy to defraud' charge to stick, when it clearly didn't fit. There was no evidence of conspiracy offered, and no evidence of fraud. Clearly that charge can't stand, but yet as long as secret witnesses can poison the court witness chain, it could.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Vickerman
* Where's the article Anton did explaining the details of his prosecution? It seems to have gone.
Get your facts right before defaming someone by spreading false rumors. Assange had sex with her and they slept together starkers. He woke up with a boner during the night and did what couples do: that's why it is called "making love all night long". One day you will understand... She threw a party for him afterwards and only reported him much, much later when she found out he was two timing her. Get your facts straight: http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it -comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/
The EAW charge is:
Her statement is (skilling past the background details and the whole night of him trying to have unprotected sex with her and her refusing, and him agreeing reluctantly a few times to protected sex and ordering her around; also skipping the aftermath):
Not only does the Assange team not dispute that she had been spending all night refusing unprotected sex with him, but she has a "paper trail" a mile long to prove it, including her ex boyfriend of 2 1/2 years who testified that she was so paranoid of unprotected sex that not only did she not once allow it in their entire relationship, but she even had him get STD tested before *protected* sex.
Oh, I'm sorry, "crikey.com.au" is so much better of a source than the actual police statements and the actual arrest warrant.
Beyond that, you're jumbling everything else up. That was a totally different woman at the party, AA instead of SW. The party was planned in advance. The charges in regards to AA are not rape. At the party she described to one friend the "violent" sex with Assange. This is all straight from the police interviews, including witnes testimony. And please don't get me started on the "how a victim has to behave afterwards for something to be rape". I've known multiple rape victims who *dated* their rapist afterwards to try to make it feel less like rape. I let mine walk me back to my car and even waited for him while he peed in the street. Why? Hell if I know, I was in shock. I didn't exactly have "get raped" on my TODO list for that evening.
No matter how kind you are, German children are kinder.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, does TPB actually "store" files? I thought they only had torrents? So why does the media continue to call it a file sharing site? (yes it was a rhetorical question)
Not to rain on your parade but piracy is a crime here. They where sentenced because regardless of the technicalities they obviously ran a service with the sole purpouse of unlicensed distribution of content. And I'm saying this as a person who hasn't paid software for many years and only paid for a Spotify account because it was convenient.
She slept with him, hence implicit consent, then this phrase: “You better not have HIV”, there's you're explicit consent. The one condition she attached was that he shouldn't have HIV, he confirms this, she lets him continue. What it ISN'T is RAPE.
"so paranoid of unprotected sex that not only did she not once allow it in their entire relationship, but she even had him get STD tested before *protected* sex."
That's irrational. If he ever did have consented sex with her, she's probably regret it later and claim rape. He's better off rid of her.
"At the party she described to one friend the "violent" sex with Assange. This is all straight from the police interviews, including witnes testimony. "
Heresay (he said she said), this second woman is the one I think is a CIA girl, she actively sought him out, then she's providing and evidence trail at a party, then talks to the other one and convinces her to go along with it.
" I've known multiple rape victims who *dated* their rapist afterwards to try to make it feel less like rape."
And I've known multiple fake rape victims who use rape to get back at boyfriends that dump them. They didn't plan on facing a rape charge for crap sex with a woman they didn't like either.
Do you accept that DATING someone you claim RAPED you is not consistent with it being RAPE?
Laws are laws, if he broke the law, he'd be in jail. Immigration rules are also guidelines backed by a law permitting deportation. It can be as simple as 'not having enough money in the bank', or 'being a sound person'. It's not illegal to have less money than they want in a bank, however it will get you deported. According to what I read, he was flagged as undesirable after the Swedes said they wanted him. Being undesirable isn't illegal, but can get you deported.
Understand the difference?
"He current detention is for an investigation into his involvement in the hacking of a Swedish IT firm named Logica. He was arrested in the Cambodian capital Phnom Penh on August 30 at Stockholm's behest and expelled late on Monday."
Editors, please.
If you fail to do enough research to find out that the Company formerly known as Logica (Now part of CGI) was based upon London (Now Canadian owned), then could you please even fix the grammar?
Thank you,
-j
Would be awesome.
The statistics and research says that it is most likely the former. People who pirate are more prone to buy things.
Perhaps the former should be re-worded the people who provide and readily facilitate piracy are more interested in cvil disobidience, ide say 50/50 of those guys are self interested.
Either way its a shity law that should have never been created anyway and does not benifit our nations or world in any way. It hinders progress and is used abusively by the power elite.