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Galaxy Tab Sales Ban Lifted, Samsung Sues Apple Over iPhone 5
another random user sends this quote from the BBC:
"A temporary sales ban on Samsung Electronics' Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet computer in the U.S. has been lifted by a U.S. court. District Judge Lucy Koh gave a court order rescinding a ban on U.S. sales that was part of a patent dispute with Apple. ... The ban on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 had been placed before a month-long patent trial between Apple and Samsung. In August, at the conclusion of that trial Apple was awarded a victory on many of its patent violation claims where it said Samsung had copied Apple's iPhone and iPad designs. It was also awarded more than $1bn (£664m) in damages. However, the jury found that Samsung had not violated the patent that was the basis for the ban on the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Samsung, therefore, argued for the sales ban to be lifted."
Samsung also went on the offensive against the iPhone 5 today, filing a motion to add the device to its ongoing patent infringement suit against Apple. Meanwhile, on another front, some good news for Apple: Motorola Mobility, owned by Google, has withdrawn its second complaint against Apple to the ITC. The complaint was filed in August over patent infringement claims involving several minor features. No explanation has been provided for the withdrawal, but Google indicated there was no agreement between the companies.
i am going back to BB
Boooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiinnnnnng.
By copying Apple's well-established business process of suing their competitors for trademark and patent infringement, Samsung is clearly guilty of infringement.
(sound of recursive cranial implosion here)
like anyone's never gonna make anything that looks like or does the same shit as anyone else...
Apple just uses a Qualcom chip to handle LTE.
So how can Samsung bring a suit against Apple that would not be valid to bring against every other user of that same chip?
If Samsung can sue over LTE standard essential patents mean nothing, and standards are then dead.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Just make it stop.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
He hearing is scheduled to begin shortly before the iPhone 5 becomes the "free" phone. These lawsuits are bizarre.
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Nuff said!
I am surprised that some company (I have Apple in mind) isn't trying to sue everyone for the process of suing people for copying stuff that they, themselves, have copied.
I just think it's the logical next step.
Perhaps the suit should be amended to include this cross complaint? Only seems fair.
And why is Apple being sued? They don't make LTE circuitry. They only buy it from other manufacturers. Shouldn't Samsung being suing THEM instead?
Except that Samsung had internal documents that stated how they wanted to copy the iPhone. I think that's where they made the big mistake here.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
So internal documents telling Samsung what to copy, and Google itself telling Samsung "you're copying too much, stop" is simply things you disregard?
Talk about cognitive dissonance...
Apple has been and always will be insane in their thinking. "Think different" really meant "do as your told"
Anyone who buys Apple products is a cunt. Don't be a cunt.
Apple Fanboy: I love my phone.
Android Fanboy: I hate your phone.
So if the Apple Fanboy is a cunt....
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
It's not like Apple has ever copied. Or like Steve Jobs proudly boasting about copying. It's the fact that someone dared to compete in what Apple wanted to be a total monopoly market. Nobody else should be able to build smartphones. That is what this is about. Not the trivia of rounded corner rectangles or bouncy scrolling. It's about Apple wanting to have a monopoly market with monopoly pricing. That doesn't work if smartphones become a commodity.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Only now it's mutually assured destruction via patent law.
The only winners are lawyers, judges and monopolies.
The rest of us suffer the wounds and sores of stagnating technology and lack of innovation.
I knew I should have studied to be lawyer.
Sigh.
Surely Apple and Samsung aren't passing the cost of all this litigation to their customers.
Samsung is korean. has to be evil
(wait, does china have a patent on *that*?)
So if the Apple Fanboy is a cunt....
....then the Fandriod is a cunt currently experiencing the symptoms of a yeast infection.
OK seriously. I picked Apple because Apple was "first" in the smartphone space - and when I say "smartphone" I mean "I had a busted iPod, shitty BlackBerry, and just moved to a new city and needed some form of GPS, so instead of buying 3 different devices I bought one". If Andriod was first, I likely would have gone that way.
Now, 4 years later? I've spent too much money in apps, and have too many Apple iOS devices in my household as a whole to really consider switching unless Andriod came out with some massive OMG I HAVE TO HAVE THIS!!! feature - which to date, they have not done.
That said, I have no issue with Andriod, and quite bluntly some of the Andriod devices are fucking beautiful too. My co-worker just got a S3, and that's a fucking NICE device. I don't post anti-Andriod bullshit in every Andriod article I read.
Pick the fucking device that works for you. Who really gives a fuck what someone else purchases? Do you really have that much free fucking time on your hands that you want to insult every person who doesn't pick the same as you?
No matter what...if you're a closed-minded cunt, then you fucking fail...whether at IT or life. Being evengelical about either platform makes you the same as the asshat hardcore religious fundamentalist, blindly shouting their so-called "truth", ignorant to the reality of the world.
We need some brave and fatalistic politicians to finally revamp the entire patent system. When someone was able to patent a PB&J with the crusts cut off, for me, that's when this whole thing jumped the shark.
Anyone who buys Apple products is a cunt. Don't be a cunt.
Apple Fanboy: I love my phone.
Android Fanboy: You paid how much for that phone that does half of what mine does?
So if the Apple Fanboy is a cunt then the Android Fanboy is Captain Obvious
FTFY, oh, and an ellipsis only has three dots but now I'm just getting picky.
I sue you, you sue me
We both sue too easily, too easily
To let us grow
They can take my LifeAlert pendant when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
wow, that was really fscking hilarious. I guess you're a cunt too.
Well, you get trollism from both sides here. When you disregard those posts, what you're left with are intelligent arguements on the issue.
You should tell that to everybody who predicted a disaster for the iPhone (no keyboard? lame). BTW, copying is all right, if you pay for doing so, it's called licensing.
Android Fanboy: You paid how much for that phone that does half of what mine does?
Heh. Yeah, that was quite a rebuttal to "I hate your phone".
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
This whole thing reminds me of Whale Wars.
Welp, if my comment made you mad enough to call me a cunt, then I must have made a pretty good point. It's only a pity my phone's logo doesn't light up so you can hate me from farther away while I'm minding my own business.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
I have an iPhone and it will be my last. But this is something I realized the other day while talking about buying the I5.
Everytime someone says 'I am buying the iPhone 5 (no not fanboys on the internet) and I ask why the answer is:
This ones home button is broken. The batter sucks on this one. This one is too slow. I already purchased all my apps. The screen cracked. I already have a bunch of expensive accessories.
Never once, in person has someone said 'This is the best phone I have ever owned and I love it, so the next one must be better.
Im not saying, Im just saying.
Android Fanboy: You paid how much for that phone that does half of what mine does?
iPhone user: Actually I jailbroke it, so I have a far higher quality of real apps and I can do anything you can in terms of configuration or customization.
Sorry Captain Obvious, you met your match when Captain Reality showed up.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's hard not to be on Samsung's side in this. Apple sued first over some totally ridiculous crap.
They are both far from being saints, that's a given. Both phones suck*, but Apple definitely crossed the line of sanity here.
* They both suck *as phones*, when compared to "dumb" phones. My old Philips had 3 weeks of battery life with my usage pattern and it took two pushes of a button (including unlocking) to call pretty much everybody I care about.
May Peace Prevail On Earth
And Samsung is different how?
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Sue you, sue me, sue it for always,
That’s the way it should be.
Sue you, sue me, sue it together, naturally.
I had a dream, I had an awesome dream.
People in the park,
Playin' games in the dark.
And what they played was a masquerade,
From behind the walls of doubt,
A voice was crying out.
Sue you, sue me, sue it for always,
That’s the way it should be.
Sue you, sue me, sue it together, naturally.
As we go down life’s lonesome highway,
Seems the hardest thing to do,
Is to find a friend or two.
That helping hand, someone who understands.
You’ve got someone there to sue, "I’ll show you."
Ooo-oooo.
Sue you, sue me, sue it for always,
Aw, that’s the way it should be.
Sue you, sue me, sue it together, naturally.
(So you think you know the answer, oh, no.)
Well, the whole world’s got you dancin'.
(That’s right, I’m telling you.)
(It’s time to start believin', oh, yes,)
(Believe in who you are,
(You are a shining star.)
Sue you, sue me, sue it for always,
Aw, that’s the way it should be.
Sue you, sue me, sue it together, naturally.
Sue it together, naturally.
Did yo read those "internal documents"? They are just expert telling design team where they went wrong with examples of good design (from Apple). It reads like "Our UI: buttons are not aligned. Good UI (yes, it's Apple's, so?): buttons are aligned. What to do: align those fucking buttons, you morons"
Saying it's "how they wanted to copy iPhone" is funny considering the advice on the slide in the article says "Differentiate icons from iPhone".
TL;DR: Take care not to steal specifics, but let's steal all common design sense from Apple!
If Samsung's claims are legit then they should pursue this as fully as possible.
Apple has created a hostile market that inhibits innovation by suing anybody with anything that resembles Apple's IP. While Samsung obviously lifted some design cues from iPhone, overall I don't think anything Samsung has done would make an Apple iPhone user switch over to a Samsung Android phone, so I thought the Apple lawsuit was petty and vindictive. Apple is doing a better job of moving people to Android then Samsung is capable of. Apple has to realize that there are at least 3 to 1 people that hate Apple and everything they do which means that Android will ALWAYS be a larger platform than Apple, just like Windows was always a larger platform than Mac. Apple never cared when Microsoft lifted UI designs, so why should they care when Samsung does the same thing.
So, if Samsung has valid claims then Apple should get a taste of their own medicine. Banning iPhone 5 sales, even for a few days during the holiday season would be a big blow to Apple, and if Samsung's claims are found justified and Apple has also infringed on other people's patents, then maybe people will wake up and see Apple for what they are.
However I have the distinct feeling that Samsung's claims are thin and flimsy and more out of spite and pettiness. I fully support legal action where it's justified, but the arguments between two petulant parties does nobody any good.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
There's also a problem with that. Apple doesn't license their design patents, and will pretty much only license others when under duress.
Do you honestly consider "So if the Apple Fanboy is a cunt" to be a complete sentence? In this case, the ellipsis is indicating that the sentence would be finished with a description of the Android Fanboy. Said description is left off, and replaced with the ellipsis, leaving it to the reader to fill in using his imagination.
So, if you are going to attempt to correct a grammar Nazi, please do take care to ensure you have a fucking clue what you are talking about, OK pumpkin?
Wrong.....they have a license agreement with Microsoft.
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/13/apple-has-licensed-ios-design-patents-to-microsoft-agreement-bans-cloning/ And highly doubt they are under duress from Microsoft.
So internal documents telling Samsung what to copy, and Google itself telling Samsung "you're copying too much, stop" is simply things you disregard?
copying isn't a crime in itself. apple copied the idea of the smartphone, the touchscreen, gestures, tablet computers, portable audio devices ... the list goes on.
the fact that google warned them doesn't implicate them in a crime. if i tell you not to cross the street because that man is going to rob you, and you do it anyway and get robbed, that doesn't make the robber innocent ... it just means you have poor judgement / don't listen to advice.
I wonder how this patent swarm compares to the sewing machine patent swarm. Probably worse because the sewing machine compaines never thought about patenting things like rounded corners.
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The milestone reflects both the rise of internet advertising and search - an area wwhere the two giants compete - and the decline of the PC industry, which Microsoft dominates.
Google's market capitalization hit $249.9 billion at the close, just edging out Microsoft's tally of $247.2 billion. Both are still behind Apple, which comes in at a weighty $618.1 billion. Google's search engine holds about 66% of the search market, far exceeding Microsoft's 16% share, according to comscore.
Elizabeth Lazarowitz, with News Wire Services.
I'd rather eat suet pudding.
Samsung had an agreement with Qualcomm that Qualcomm's license to Samsung's patents covered Qualcomm's customers. So Apple used Qualcomm's chips under the understanding that they were fully licensed. But apparently desperate because of Apple's many claims related to Samsung's copying, Samsung attempted to cancel Qualcomm's license as it pertains to Apple. This is of doubtful legality, as licensing of standards-essential patents is supposed to be nondiscriminatory. But it gives Samsung some basis for countersuit, which probably helps them with investors, at least for the moment.
I thought vaginas liked penises, that that was kinda the point ...
^^ brilliant
I literally LOLLED
You sit on a throne of lies!
My old Philips had 3 weeks of battery life with my usage pattern and it took two pushes of a button (including unlocking) to call pretty much everybody I care about.
They could make the battery life longer if they wanted, but it would make the phone bigger and heavier. Apple chooses the lowest battery life people need, and put whatever size battery it takes to hit that number (if you want more battery life, there are very nice cases with built in batteries). In my opinion, your old Philips device would be better if it needed charging every night. Imagine how much thinner and lighter it would have been? Is it really that hard to plug it in when you get home?
And your two pushes of a button including unlocking sounds unlikely to me. All my old phones required two pushes just to unlock, and then a long press on a button (or some similar shortcut) to call someone. With my iPhone, I don't even have to unlock it. I just hold the button down and say the person's name, and it calls them.
Apple offered Samsung an $800 million dollar settlement to license the design patents. The only thing they refused to license was their trade dress.
Samsung refused to settle, and the court awarded a few hundred million dollars more than Apple was asking for (we still don't know how much the final figure will be, since judge has yet to increase the $1.05b number to include jury's "wilful infringement" ruling... and it will probably be appealed anyway).
Licensing, as you say. Okay. Then Apple should license one of Samsung's patents that covers, and I kid you not, how smartphone displays change when music is being played.
It's a good thing Apple and Samsung are both focusing on what is truly important. Kudos to the US Patent and Trademark office for creating a system that helps companies to focus their efforts on what is important.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Apple doesn't see Windows phone as a threat to their market share.
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
Don't confuse them with facts and reason. The meme is that Samsung made their phones as identical as they could manage. Any differences between their phones and the iPhone was their inability to match Apples pure awesome.
Besides, no one had anything like rounded corners or icons aligned to a grid or buttons that align neatly before Apple. If they did then they didn't "put them all together" in to the "perfect package". Yes, even their supposedly awful chicklet keyboards and hockey-puck mice were superior to all other alternatives -- the perfect design that give the user the perfect experience.
All those designs that came before the iPhone that look, well, like an iPhone are all lies created by time-traveling fandroids. Apple invented all that is good. Bow your head and thank Steve Jobs for blessing you with the opportunity to buy a holy iPhone, in all it's glory. Praise be!
Required reading for internet skeptics
Yeah, Jobs never had documents like that stating he wanted to copy Braun.
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
Yes, you can engage in potentially risky behavior violating the TOS, EULA, and DMCA
It does none of those things. Jailbreaking has also been explicitly declared to be legal.
So there went all the legs you had to stand on. All you can do is wobble about...
But, hey... you've got cool corners and fancy icons
And way more quality applications and a greater ability to hack existing applications, yes.
Oh and far greater battery life since your OS doesn't give a fig if the phone can last two days on a charge.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Original AC here...
You pick one phrase, and ignore the rest. Fine.
In 2008, when I got my iPhone, my smartphone choices were: (I am in Canada)
Blackberry - Shit, no music player yet, no GPS
Windows Mobile devices: Shit, battery life that wouldn't get me through the day
Palm: I think some version of the Treo was available at the time (I can't remember). Had a palmpilot back in the Vx days, didn't hate it, but didn't really love it either. Despised the stylus.
So yes, while my statement of ""Apple was "first" in the smartphone space" is not accurate, when you continue the sentence & discuss the options I wanted against the available devices, yes, it was the first smartphone that I actually wanted.
not to list their shares in any of the U.S. stock exchanges.
New Economic Perspectives
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I agree. That was a good one! :-)
Scuffgate
It's pretty funny that Apple Haters like yourself claim Apple users are all about fashion, when Apple users care far less about scuffs on a device than Android users seem to.
Doubly funny when Android users seem to prefer cheap plastic to real metal. I guess they really ARE afraid of scuffs!
Also Apple people don't care who sells more than who. They just enjoy what they have. Enjoy your McDonalds-class devices.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The specific linked document says nothing about alignment. It specifically says that the light effect that iOS icons have give them a 3D feel. Also it says that the rounded curves gives iOS icons a "soft and comfortable feel". The recommendations say specifically to copy both the light effect and the curves. The third point only says not to use similar icons to avoid the appearance that Samsung was copying (which Samsung was doing by adopting first two recommendations).
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
The point is not about implication. The fact the Google warned them is a problem for Samsung's defenses. In a case where a patent/copyright is decided to be infringing (which the jury decided), the fines differ greatly if the infringement was willful and intentional. The fact the Google told Samsung allows the court to conclude that (1) the infringement appeared to be significant enough that Google itself was concerned and (2) Samsung was told and cannot claim they did not know. The internal documents seem to suggest that Samsung willfully infringed.
Your analogy would be more apt if you told people to cross the street because there is a great restaurant but there is a lot of robberies. Now if you knew about the robberies but still directed people anyway and a third party also warned you about crime across the street, then are you responsible for what happened to those people?
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Since it's totally ridiculous crap, why was samsung copying it?
LOL. "Specific linked document" is below, embedded from Scribd. What you quote is a single slide from that document. Even that slide doesn't say "copy", so now you're down to blatant lies. It says to add light effect and round edges - you mean to say those are specific Apple inventions and not common design sense? I'm looking at my desktop right now and half of icons there employ "effects of light" and "rounded edges" for "luxurious feel". Other slides are like that too - slide #1, for example, says tells Samsung engineers to copy Apple's brilliant invention of changing UI orientation on phone rotation.
LOL. "Specific linked document" is below, embedded from Scribd. What you quote is a single slide from that document. Even that slide doesn't say "copy", so now you're down to blatant lies. It says to add light effect and round edges - you mean to say those are specific Apple inventions and not common design sense?
Copy 14.to follow as a pattern or model; imitate.
Almost all of the documents follow the same pattern: Apple does it this way. We do it this way. Do it the way Apple does it. Hence "copy"
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
All the documents follow the same pattern: This part is done wrong. This is how it's done right. Improve it. Your application of "copy" is so wide, that iPhone itself is a goddamn blatant copy of a lot of previous things (Are you sure "light effects to give 3d look" and "rounded edges to add softer feeling" were done by Apple first? They probably followed^Wcopied someone else's previous design ideas, those copycats from Cupertino!)
You're presupposing that Apple's there because they're set out to copy Apple, while in fact all of the left side can be found in other phones with good design. "Apple's UI rotates. Our doesn't rotate. Make it rotate", "Apple's number of messages icon overlay is clearly visible. Our number of messages status bar icon is poorly visible. Make it brighter to make it visible" (note how it's not "make our icon an overlay, too", for example), "Our UI allows for duplicate icons on home screen. Prevent it", "Ending call takes too much actions. Apple's UI doesn't. Lower the number of actions needed". There's nothing Apple specific in those comparisons and improvements.
It's not that ideas are crap, it's ridiculous that they got a patent for what amounted to letting the first year engineer design the outside of the device. Things with rectangular screens are going to be rectangular with rounded corners.
All of the above was encrypted with a Quad ROT-13 method. Unauthorized decryption is in violation of the DMCA.
being illegal and being in poor judgement are two different things. was samsung's copying of apple in poor judgement? that's what google said. is it illegal? google almost certainly did try to comment on the legality of samsung's products.
My old Philips had 3 weeks of battery life with my usage pattern and it took two pushes of a button (including unlocking) to call pretty much everybody I care about.
They could make the battery life longer if they wanted, but it would make the phone bigger and heavier. Apple chooses the lowest battery life people need, and put whatever size battery it takes to hit that number (if you want more battery life, there are very nice cases with built in batteries). In my opinion, your old Philips device would be better if it needed charging every night. Imagine how much thinner and lighter it would have been? Is it really that hard to plug it in when you get home?
Yep. With the phone I had before, which I had to charge everyday, I used to forget it every other day and was left *without* a phone every other day. I just don't want to think about it everyday. If I had some sort of wireless charging station at home, that authomatically starts charging, even if the phone is in your pocket then yes, I wouldn't worry.
The best thing though was that if I had to go somewhere for a weekend or even longer, I didn't even bother to take the charger with me.
And your two pushes of a button including unlocking sounds unlikely to me.
OK, it wasn't just a push. It was a long press to unlock, long press to speed dial. Still pretty optimal.
All my old phones required two pushes just to unlock, and then a long press on a button (or some similar shortcut) to call someone. With my iPhone, I don't even have to unlock it. I just hold the button down and say the person's name, and it calls them.
Well, I *really* don't want to talk to my phone. Especially saying aloud the names of the people I'm calling. Yeah, I know I'm old fashioned. My old "dumb" phone, had this feature too BTW, so there is nothing new about it. I just never used it.
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And you are the cuntiest of all cunts, you stupid fucking cunt. The butt you lick is that of Steve Jobs' dead corpse. You are an ass-eating necrophiliac cunt and you are clearly proud about that, you stupid fucking cunt. You seem to be implying something about people who hate cunt. I'm not comparing you to female genetalia. I'm saying that you, as a person, are no better than a hole that piss runs out of. Cunt. It's similar to being called a prick except it's whinier and cuntier. Cunts never understand what the word means.
You have a long /. record which supports what I say about your cuntiness, mobile cuntsu nippon-jappo-gooko. I, OTOH have a much longer /. record supporting truth, justice, the American Way, and non-cuntiness.
I'm a good guy and you are a cunt, you cunt. And what the hell makes you think I like Android? Apple has been a cunt since before cellphones were invented... you stupid fucking cunt.
Read up on confirmation bias.
There's just as many Apple idiots who hate people for choosing non-Apple devices as there are Android idiots.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
are you asking if it's illegal? Wasn't there a recent trial by jury...? Wait, is copyright and patent violation now a civil or criminal issue...?
There's just as many Apple idiots who hate people for choosing non-Apple devices as there are Android idiots.
No, there really isn't. You're thinking of the group people who are sick of the bashing.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Wow!! So what exactly did I say that was sooOOoo offensive that I earned that response? Whatever it was, it must really have stung!
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Samsung lets users do anything they want with their devices. They even come with unlocked bootloaders.
Apple wants everyone to use their devices exactly the same way.
OK, it wasn't just a push. It was a long press to unlock, long press to speed dial. Still pretty optimal.
i'd rather sequentially press two buttons than hold 1 button.
i used to have gesture unlock which was even easier and had some security but i haven't bothered with cyanogen yet on my current phone and android doesn't have it natively (I dont count the stupid pattern unlock)
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
Nope, you made no point. You just whined like you usual cunty self, you ignorant cunt.
Nope, you made no point.
Actually.... yep I did. Sorry!
I do hope, at least, that the remainder of your week is good.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
The only thing you have to do to "secure" an Android "box" is to turn on the encryption. That's pretty much as technical as pressing a button.
Really?
Go up to any average mom, hand her an Android device and tell her to "secure" it. You really think she will find and press that button?
Of course not. So many people on Slashdot are just utterly ignorant of what is a reasonable exception of the non-technical user.
There are a lot of software fixes I have done in my day that were the equivalent of "just press that button". But I got paid money to do so because I had the understanding there was even a button to press and the experience to know where it was (metaphorically speaking).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The recent trial was a civil matter so whether Samsung products are illegal is not even a proper question. The question before the court was whether Apple's patents were valid. Was there infringement of the patents? The last question is whether the infringement was willful. The jury decided yes to all three parts.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Just nuke the patent system sky high and put all patent lawyers against the wall. By now that's probably the only way to ever get out of this fucking mess.
Samsung lets users do anything they want with their devices. They even come with unlocked bootloaders.
Apple wants everyone to use their devices exactly the same way.
Then don't buy Apple devices, don't even read about them in the tech press. Your blood pressure will take a downturn and this site will be a little less clogged up with posts by Apple hating Google fanboys.
Many people (myself included) understand and accept this as a trade-off for the ability to carry an email/gps/web browser/media player comfortably in your pocket. I use all of the other features more than my actual phone anyway.
Ummm... it's not a meme. The grandparent is talking about a real document outlying changes that Samsung made to there UI to match iOS. But judging from your response it doesn't really seem like you can emotionally accept this fact.
Yep. With the phone I had before, which I had to charge everyday, I used to forget it every other day and was left *without* a phone every other day. I just don't want to think about it everyday. If I had some sort of wireless charging station at home, that authomatically starts charging, even if the phone is in your pocket then yes, I wouldn't worry.
If I turn wireless data and wifi off on my GS3 or my old original GS the battery will last for a week. If all you want is basic phone functionality then modern smartphones are no worse than dumbphones, sometimes even better due to having high capacity batteries to support all the smart stuff.
Most people with smartphones do want the data services though, so make the trade off between functionality and having to charge up every day. Learn how to turn off the services you don't use (mobile data, background sync) and you will be happy.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
How cute, an AC who can't read.
So you did put a period at the end of that sentence and you made the text the same color as the background?
Oh yeah, another thing is that I didn't have any trouble doing it with ONE HAND.
May Peace Prevail On Earth
Fine... Wrong word. Not duress. They'll only license when they think the licensee doesn't matter.
My old Philips had 3 weeks of battery life with my usage pattern and it took two pushes of a button (including unlocking) to call pretty much everybody I care about.
In my opinion, your old Philips device would be better if it needed charging every night. Imagine how much thinner and lighter it would have been? Is it really that hard to plug it in when you get home?
Except there goes the phone's usefulness when you go away on business and forget to pack your charger.
i also never had that problem. i would consider that a massive drawback in unlocking if it had ever happened to me
( i have an s3 at the moment and have never needed 2 hands to unlock)
i spent five minutes thinking and all i got was this crappy sig
I agree, I have to use a smartphone for work and was never impressed. I had an HTC Tbolt and now a GS3. Convenient (besides the Tbolt which was a POS and still is from day 1), but not in the same realm as a standard phone. If my employer no longer provides a smartphone (a blessing), I would just use a standard candy bar phone and pickup a tablet (preferably one with month to month internet plans like the iPad, but preferably with Android).
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