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New Study Links Caffeinated Coffee To Vision Loss

dsinc writes "A new study suggests caffeinated coffee drinkers should limit their intake to reduce their chances of developing vision loss or blindness. According to a scientific paper in Investigative Ophthalmology & Visual Science, heavy caffeinated coffee consumption is associated with an increased risk of developing exfoliation glaucoma (abstract), the leading cause of secondary glaucoma worldwide. 'Scandinavian populations have the highest frequencies of exfoliation syndrome and glaucoma,' said author Jae Hee Kang, ScD, of Channing Division of Network Medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Mass. 'Because Scandinavian populations also have the highest consumption of caffeinated coffee in the world, and our research group has previously found that greater caffeinated coffee intake was associated with increased risk of primary open-angle glaucoma, we conducted this study to evaluate whether the risk of exfoliation glaucoma or glaucoma suspect may be different by coffee consumption.'"

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  1. Coffee is... by Ashenkase · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good for you... Coffee is bad for you... Coffee is good for you... Coffee is bad for you...

    Coffee is making me sea sick.

    1. Re:Coffee is... by JustOK · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try the sea weed

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    2. Re:Coffee is... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Smoke some Cannabis. It will help with both the nausea and the glaucoma.

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    3. Re:Coffee is... by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed.

      Personally I figure anything in moderation is probably less toxic than the world in general. If you enjoy coffee, drink a few cups a day and don't worry about it! Don't specifically drink coffee if you don't like it, and don't drink 15 cups a day..

      The interesting thing is that we worry about these kind of slight threats to our health, but ignore the absolute real killers: sitting on our asses for most fo the day, not getting enough sleep, eating food that is barely food, stress...

      I like to think any of those things are going to be a much bigger factor on my longevity than the cup of coffee I had this morning..

    4. Re:Coffee is... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
      So...it is the coffee that is making me go blind...

      All this time, I thought it was the other thing....

      :)

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    5. Re:Coffee is... by dmbasso · · Score: 2

      No, the other thing is responsible for the hairy hand.

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    6. Re:Coffee is... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good for you... Coffee is bad for you... Coffee is good for you... Coffee is bad for you...

      Coffee is making me sea sick.

      Which is why I switched to tea ... which is good for you ... which is bad for you .. which is good for you ...

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    7. Re:Coffee is... by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 2

      That's not much coffee.

    8. Re:Coffee is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Coffee is making me sea sick.

      No I think the article is trying to say it makes you see sick.

    9. Re:Coffee is... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2

      The interesting thing is that we worry about these kind of slight threats to our health, but ignore the absolute real killers: sitting on our asses for most fo the day, not getting enough sleep, eating food that is barely food, stress

      Equally interesting may be that the folks who drink the most coffee are the ones that follow your illustration

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    10. Re:Coffee is... by TheLink · · Score: 2

      Then it just means you'll live long enough to get glaucoma or cancer instead of dropping dead earlier.

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    11. Re:Coffee is... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 3, Funny

      Better yet, always add a bit to every can of coffee you brew. Of course it'll take extensive tests to determine the ideal mix. Very extensive i bet; any volunteers?

      Unfortunately, THC is not soluble in water. Therefore, you'll have to brew your coffee/cannabis mix with grain alcohol instead of water. Oh wait, were we trying to avoid blindness?

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    12. Re:Coffee is... by gildur · · Score: 2

      Perhaps the increased rate of vision loss is due to the extra life span gained from all the coffee.

    13. Re:Coffee is... by Dr+Herbert+West · · Score: 4, Informative

      You could infuse hot milk with some cannabis, then add it to your coffee!

    14. Re:Coffee is... by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Funny

      my eyes arent too good, can you inspect my palms for me?

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    15. Re:Coffee is... by cyn1c77 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good for you... Coffee is bad for you... Coffee is good for you... Coffee is bad for you...

      Coffee is making me sea sick.

      Which is why I switched to tea ... which is good for you ... which is bad for you .. which is good for you ...

      I am contemplating just switching to soda. That way I'll know that it's bad for me.

      I just can't take the uncertainty anymore.

    16. Re:Coffee is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So are tomatoes, cheeses, meats, and anything else with a savory flavor.
      Too much of anything is bad for you.
      In moderation, mono-sodium glutamate is no worse for you than salt, sugar, capsaicin, or citric acid.
      And if you live your life avoiding all savory foods, I weep for you.

  2. Correlation != Causation by gregor-e · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It may be that people whose genetics predispose them to exfoliation glaucoma are also more than usually enchanted by coffee. Still, interesting observation.

    1. Re:Correlation != Causation by TWX · · Score: 2

      Or people in cold, cold climates are literally freezing their eyeballs into having health problems via exposure to the elements, and also happen to like hot beverages to counteract the cold...

      I want to see the same study conducted on Scandinavian ex-pats who drink copious amounts of coffee in less frigid climates.

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    2. Re:Correlation != Causation by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 2

      Just to throw out something else to consider:

      http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-01/meae-ots122911.php

      "Outside temperatures, sun exposure and gender may trigger glaucoma"

      Importantly, those with a lifetime residential history of living in the middle tier and south tier of the United States was associated with 47% and 75% reduced risks, respectively, compared with living in the northern tier...

      Without having read the full paper, it seems to me that what they're saying is that your location has a lot to do with the risk. Perhaps it's the extra exposure to UV/Sunlight from snow reflection? So it makes sense that TFA finds an increase in risk for people in Scandinavian regions.

    3. Re:Correlation != Causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Must agree and disagree.

      From our ignorant, "try banging the rocks together guys," state of science, yes, it feels like a crapshoot.

      But these kinds of studies are great to have on hand, so that when DNA is well understood and cheaply examined we can find the factors that make caffeine good and bad for a person. The net result, in the Gattaca Age, will be that you go to the thrice repurposed GeneOMat drive through, get your print out and at the bottom just above your total_fitness_index, will be the list of drugs that work for you, and that don't.

      Mine:

      Caffiene: No benefits, no effects
      Amoxycilin: Expect allergic reaction
      Novacane: 10% expected effacacy
      Cannabis: Expect contact nausea at exposure frequencies less than 1 per week
      Rogane: Effective
      Butenafine
            Hydrochloride: Ineffective
      Alcohol: 1 std. serving per day, cardio_effects +, liver_effects negligble

      At that point it won't be a crapshoot, and starting life knowing these things would be extremely useful.
      The process starts with studies like this article.

    4. Re:Correlation != Causation by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Outside temperatures, sun exposure and gender may trigger glaucoma"

      Oh my GOD! *I* have a gender... I wonder if I'm at risk...

  3. OK... Next question: by lorenlal · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, does this mean it's time to start evaluating a possible reason?

    I ask because I love my coffee. Seriously, I'm stupid for it... But the last thing I need is another activity that supposedly makes me go blind...

  4. Other explanations by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Geez. To me this is kind of like in the movie "The Jerk" when the crazy guy is trying to kill Steve Martin's character by shooting him from across the road with a rifle and Martin concludes that the guy has a problem with cans and he's actually attacking the cans, which just happen to also be everywhere Steve is.

    Scandinavian people are more blue eyed than most ethnic groups and it's been known for years that blue eyed people may be more sensitive to vision problems caused by sunlight. It could also be that for some reason (ozone depletion?) that Scandinavia gets stronger sunlight than other regions. If they want to convince me that there is something to do this, show me a study in Brazil where there aren't very many blue eyed people and they drink a lot of coffee too.

  5. Re:Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just don't masturbate into your coffee.

  6. Not statistically significant? by Tepar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the abstract:
    Compared with participants whose cumulatively updated total caffeine consumption was <125 mg/day, participants who consumed 500 mg/day had a trend toward increased risk of EG/EGS that was not statistically significant (RR = 1.43; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.98–2.08); P trend = 0.06).

    If it's not statistically significant, then how can we take this seriously?

  7. Pluheese.... by bagboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone should read the article a little better instead of posting some inflaming title... FTFA, "participants who consumed 500 mg/day had a trend toward increased risk of EG/EGS that was not statistically significant". Notice the "not statistically significant" part? Also, " We did not find associations with consumption of other caffeinated products". Way to panic!

  8. Coffee and wine are the fashionable miracle cures by blahbooboo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So in the last 6-12 months coffee and red wine have been show to prevent pretty much everything -- heart disease, dementia, hypertension, aging etc.
    Pop science is so tiring. Fact is all of these studies are incredibly dependent on the population.

    The only thing know for sure is living is hazardous to your health...

  9. Translating by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

    For 80k women, there were a total 360 cases (.45%).

    The increase was higher for women in families who already had a history of glaucoma.

    The link was specific to caffeinated coffee and wasn't found for other products (Tea, Chocolate, decaffeinated coffee)

    There was a tiny statistically significant increase compared to abstainers.

    I.e. take those 360 cases, and say there were 160 cases among abstainers and 200 cases among caffeinated coffee drinkers. So the actual increased number of cases due to drinking caffeinated coffee in the population of 80k women may have been something like .05%. This is a rough swag. The actual increase was:
    "increased risk of EG/EGS (RR = 1.66; 95% CI, 1.09â"2.54; P trend = 0.02)"

    So give up a lifetime of drinking coffee, the other benefits of drinking coffee in return for reducing your risk of Glaucoma very very slightly.

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  10. Re:OK... Next question: by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it means that you should stop reading dumb clinical articles taken out of context on Slashdot.

    This is just one of those hundreds of thousands of medical articles trawling the data for a correlation so somebody can chase after another grant. According to TFA, they reviewed records of almost 79000 people and came up with 360 cases of this particular form of glaucoma. Then they take the self reported caffeine intake, adjust for 'other confounders' (waves hands) and come up with a weak (Relative Risk 1.4) association that is barely statistically significant and likely not clinically significant at all.

    Hrumphh. Not impressed

    (Goes back to quaffing his Nuclear Waste level caffeinated beverage)

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  11. That's lucky by Hentes · · Score: 2

    So tea is still safe. Now if only there was a safe alternative to masturbation I wouldn't have to worry about my vision at all.

  12. Statistically Meaningless Conclusions by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry, their conclusions are just not statistically justified.

    Let me review what they found:
    Compared total caffeine consumption of less than 125 mg/day to greater than 500 mg/day: no significant result
    Compared abstain from caffeinated coffee to greater than 3 cups of caffeinated coffee daily: glaucoma relative risk in the interval 1.09 to 2.54
    Compared consumption of (caffeinated soda, caffeinated tea, decaffeinated coffee or chocolate) to non-consumers of same: no significant result

    That relative risk that they quote as being significant has a confidence interval with a lower end of 1.09; which is only barely above 1.0 (1.0= no effect). So, they studied one particular variety of one particular minor disease (of many health effects). Finding one effect at a trivial level is meaningless.

    Ob xkcd: http://xkcd.com/882/

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    1. Re:Statistically Meaningless Conclusions by frosty_tsm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On top of this, why were people drinking so much coffee? Because they were working long days? Staying up late? Other activities that can lead to eye strain?

      Sorry but this sounds like correlation rather than causation.

  13. Everything kills you. by metrometro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's all fatal. Some faster than others, I admit, but everyone eventually becomes infirm and dies and causality is pretty firm linked to existing in the world and doing things.

    So, can we have good regulators to worry about stuff like Chromium in tap water and just start ignoring the really subtle stuff?

  14. Breakfast form once and for all by theedgeofoblivious · · Score: 3

    Doctors, can you please clarify this? Eating breakfast is becoming a terrifying experience. (Circle all that apply)

    Coffee is good / bad for you.
    Eggs are good / bad for you.
    The healthier topping for my toast is butter(which has lots of saturated fat) / margarine(which is trans fat) .

    I anticipate the stories of how whole wheat toast is secretly the cause of cancer.

    1. Re:Breakfast form once and for all by rogueippacket · · Score: 2

      ... and literally zero exercise

      I think I found a bigger problem than her diet.

      ... our bodies don't know what to do with it all.

      See previous. Carbs = energy = exercise.
      It's sad that this notion of less weight = more health has been distilled into our brains. Your body needs exercise, and it needs a balanced diet. Your weight will change depending on what you eat, when you eat it, how much you eat. And for the love of all things, get a better measure than weight. Your weight can fluctuate 5-10 lbs per week, stop fixating on it. Use your weigh scales only for measuring the weight of your suitcase before a flight - judge your fitness level instead by how far you can run, how high you can jump, and how long you can stay on your bike, how much better you get month after month.