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How To Steal a Space Shuttle

An anonymous reader tips a piece by Jason Torchinsky at Jalopnik, who attended the California Science Center's press conference about moving Space Shuttle Endeavour through Los Angeles to its final resting place. While he was there, he noticed that security for the event was focused less on the shuttle than on keeping the city itself safe. So, after a helpful LAPD officer suggested it would be impossible for a supervillain to make off with OV-105, Torchinsky went ahead and made a plan to do just that. All he needs is a submarine, a score of Sikorsky CH-53E heavy-lift helicopters, a salvaged and disguised Buran spaceplane, and the assistance of Switzerland.

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  1. Maybe it would be easier to just re-launch it? by stillnotelf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Surely they wouldn't follow him into space, and it's kind of a supervillian thing to do!

    1. Re:Maybe it would be easier to just re-launch it? by forkazoo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then you need to steal launch infrastructure which would be even less practical than stealing teh space shuttle. Indeed, if you can steal that, then you can probably just build your own space ships.

      That said, I live in LA. Ahat's the return policy on heavy lift helicopters? Can I get them from Amazon?

    2. Re:Maybe it would be easier to just re-launch it? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Then you need to steal launch infrastructure which would be even less practical than stealing teh space shuttle.

      Actually, that part is pretty easy. Just cut off the State of Florida at the place where the neck is at its narrowest, and quickly sail away.

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    3. Re:Maybe it would be easier to just re-launch it? by LifesABeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No. No, no, no, no. Why return anything? Name one super villan that returned an ocean liner. Super Villians leave their discarded toys all over the crime scene.



      "Anybody can kick a sleeping Tiger in the rear. But they had better have a plan for the claws, and teeth." - T.Clancy

  2. So we're posting speculative FICTION now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shouldn't this be in the "book reviews" section of Slashdot instead of "science"?

  3. High danger of being labeled a terrorist act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Haven't people learned? In this day and age, even joking about stealing/damaging US gov't property can be considered an act of terrorism.

    1. Re:High danger of being labeled a terrorist act by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

      Doesn't mean it's not funny!

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    2. Re:High danger of being labeled a terrorist act by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 2

      But if I've learned anything from the Die Hard movies, it's that posing as terrorists is the ideal way of hiding an elaborate theft.

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  4. CRAP! by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I have to come up with a new plan.

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  5. Trivial by DeeEff · · Score: 5, Funny

    It becomes almost trivial to steal a spaceship once you're President of the Galaxy.

    These are the types of two faced men we should watch out for.

    1. Re:Trivial by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      It becomes almost trivial to steal a spaceship once you're President of the Galaxy.

      These are the types of two faced men we should watch out for.

      No, that would be highly improbable. Next you'll say that the space ship will pick up people from space all by itself.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  6. PR genius by paiute · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is obviously viral marketing for Ocean's Fourteen.

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    1. Re:PR genius by Terry+Pearson · · Score: 2

      This is obviously viral marketing for Ocean's Fourteen.

      Exactly what I was thinking. Sounds like an Ocean's plot. If they simplify the plot a little, it could be a stunt for Fast and Furious 6 as well... Attach two Dodge Chargers to spaceship and drive through LA like mad.

  7. Next Season, on Breaking Bad by sexconker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next Season, on Breaking Bad

    Jessie: Oh come on, Mr. White! We have $480,000,000! Each! I'm out!

    Walt: Really Jessie? This is about money to you?

    Jessie: Wasn't that the whole point? To leave your family money, and then to make an empire because you're mad you made a bad decision with Gray Matter? Why do you need a space shuttle? Bitch?!

    Walt: Jessie, Hank is on to us. We need to get out of his jurisdiction. Out of everyone's jurisdiction! And that shuttle is our ride.

  8. too late by badford · · Score: 5, Funny

    What makes you think that is the real shuttle?...mwuhuhahahaha [evil laughter trails off]

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  9. first the maple syrup by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    now the space shuttle. when will the evil stop?

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    Good people go to bed earlier.
    1. Re:first the maple syrup by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      How many barrels of maple syrup could you hide in a space shuttle?

    2. Re:first the maple syrup by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Duh! Bacon!!
      !

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      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
  10. Horrible plan. by drkim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Horrible plan.

    First, if you already have a Buran, what would you need the shuttle for?

    You're going to put a giant, top-opening cargo hold in a submarine?

    And then you're going to bring it to flight-readiness? Couldn't you just buy the Buran and bring that to flight-readiness?

  11. The author's first mistake may be his last. by Picass0 · · Score: 2

    >> "While Bond supervillans tend to have these sorts of facilities and liquidity, they don't really exist..."

    Well that exactly what Blofeld wants you to think.

  12. Nice by Fuzzums · · Score: 2

    Especially the part where the Swiss submarine is docking in those Swiss harbours is interesting.

    But while you did this, I used all that confusion to replace the Mona Lisa with a fake one :)

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  13. Re:Oh, is that all? by poity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Acquire Buran
    2. Call off plan since you already have a shuttle

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  14. Re:It would be cheaper to... by camperdave · · Score: 2

    Yes, but it wouldn't be as fun!

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  15. Re:Oh, is that all? by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Meanwhile some feller with the ludicrously unlikely name of Elon Musk is building ICBMs right in plain sight.

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  16. Re:Oh, is that all? by Talderas · · Score: 2

    It would be easier to steal the USS Missouri from Pearl Harbor.

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  17. Re:Oh, is that all? by titanium93 · · Score: 4, Funny

    But then you have to worry about the cook.

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  18. A few problems by hawguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the chaos is at its climax, a fleet of 10 Sikorsky CH-53E heavy lift helicopters wearing NASA Emergency Rescue livery will show up, and heroically inform everyone that they're here to take the Shuttle to a more secure location, away from the fire, and all that, back at LAX.

    I don't think it would be possible for 10 choppers to coordinate to lift a load like that, the diameter of the rotors on the chopper is 80 feet, and the wingspan of the shuttle is 80 feet, so they would be pulling at an angle, which even if they could maintain the proper separation, would reduce their payload capacity. Worse, if one chopper loses or reduces power, the downward force would pull all of the choppers closer together, likely causing their rotors to collide. This coordination would be much harder to maintain when they fly into the smokescreen. To do this in real life, they'd need some kind of special bracket to allow the choppers to have enough horizontal separation to lift vertically.

    Meanwhile, the real Endeavour is being flown a few miles West, out to the Pacific. While in flight, a crack team of Swiss military aerialists will wrap the Shuttle in camouflaged and water-tight plastic wrap, like they use for boats and other heavy equipment when shipping.

    It seems highly unlikely that they'd be able to get a watertight seal around all of the tow ropes while airborne.... though they are a *crack* team, so maybe.

    Once wrapped, the tethers holding the Shuttle will be released, sending the plastic-coated orbiter plunging into the icy Pacific.

    This part is even harder - the picture in the article shows the shuttle sinking under the water to the special submarine, except that the shuttle wouldn't sink, it would float.

    The shuttle cargo bay alone is 18m x 4.5m x 2m (estimated), or 162 m^3, which would displace 162,000 kg or water, or around 178 US tons. Add in the rest of the volume of the shuttle, and it's probably closer to 250 tons of displacement. The sub would have to come snatch it from the surface. I assume that something like an 16,000 ton Ohio Class sub would be able to submerge even with a 200 ton buoyant chamber on it, but I don't know for sure - I don't know how close to neutrally buoyant a sub is.

    And of course, if the shuttle was submerged, it's unlikely that it could handle much pressure - it's designed to be under positive pressure in space, every 30 feet under water is one atmosphere of negative pressure, which the shuttle was never designed for.

    And then finally there's the problem of what to do with it once they get it, the article suggests:

    A country with a motive, like maybe a strange fixation on neutrality to the degree they've made their country a fortress and they may be interested in getting a spaceship for an off-world colony, fast.

    If they are building a space colony, they'd probably want to get higher than the 400 mile max orbit of the shuttle. And if they just want a launch vehicle, for the $600M they are spending on the 20 CH-53E's, they may as well pay the Russians to take them to space, since they Russians can launch them cheaper than the $450M/flight it costs for the shuttle. And, of course, the shuttles are no longer spaceworthy, and it's likely that no one (not even NASA) has the ability to take a mothballed shuttle that's been on an underwater journey and make it spaceworthy again.

    If I were a Mythbuster, I'd declare this myth "Busted", as I don't see any way it could work in real life.

  19. The Swiss state-run airline, Swissair, ... by inflamez · · Score: 2

    ... is actually not run by the state and is not called Swissair. The company he's looking for is "Swiss International Air Lines" (since 2002) and is a subsidiary of the German airline Lufthansa (since 2005).

    Otherwise, the plan seems legit.