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Wanted: Hackers For Large-Scale Attacks On American Banks

Trailrunner7 writes "RSA's FraudAction research team has been monitoring underground chatter and has put together various clues to deduce that a cybercrime gang is actively recruiting up to 100 botmasters to participate in a complicated man-in-the-middle hijacking scam using a variant of the proprietary Gozi Trojan. This is the first time a private cybercrime organization has recruited outsiders to participate in a financially motivated attack, said Mor Ahuvia, cybercrime communications specialist for RSA FraudAction. The attackers are promising their recruits a cut of the profits, and are requiring an initial investment in hardware and training in how to deploy the Gozi Prinimalka Trojan, Ahuvia added. Also, the gang will only share executable files with their partners, and will not give up the Trojan's compilers, keeping the recruits dependent on the gang for updates."

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  1. the easiest marks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The attackers are promising their recruits a cut of the profits, and are requiring an initial investment in hardware and training

    as any confidence man could tell you, the best marks are those that think they are in on the scam...

    1. Re:the easiest marks by frosty_tsm · · Score: 2

      The attackers are promising their recruits a cut of the profits, and are requiring an initial investment in hardware and training

      as any confidence man could tell you, the best marks are those that think they are in on the scam...

      I second that thought. This sounds less like a serious recruitment and more like one of those "makes $5000 a month working from home" things.

    2. Re:the easiest marks by sjwt · · Score: 2

      Subject is incorrect..

      Wanted: Hackers For Large-Scale Sting!

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    3. Re:the easiest marks by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hmmm... Cyrillic & Simplified Chinese dont show quite as I expected :-(

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    4. Re:the easiest marks by peragrin · · Score: 4, Funny

      this is slashdot and the only languages that are known here are english and bad english.

      yippee kay yay mother fuckers.

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    5. Re:the easiest marks by overlordofmu · · Score: 3, Informative

      American English now considers "funner" a proper word. Do I need to say more?

  2. Compilers.. by MnemonicMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Won't give up their "compilers" now will they.. Bastards, I'll drop in my version of GCC and show them! Er, ahem, I think the article means "source code." And even with that a determined reverse-engineering effort could negate that too..

    1. Re:Compilers.. by MnemonicMan · · Score: 2

      So pretend you're a client and request the decryption key for the payload from their servers?

    2. Re:Compilers.. by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      its not the key you need, its the algorithm used to encrypt the binaries. If you have the source, but don't know how they generate encrypted binary code from it, you cant write antivirus for new versions of it.

      but you do have the algorithm used to decrypt the binaries.. it's in the payload. duh.

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  3. is this a job ad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can I apply right now?

  4. Questionable Validity by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why bother recruiting people if you can just hire bots, or herd your own? Why go for 100 small ones if just a few bigger ones will yield you the same number of victims?

    These seem like either very inexperienced criminals, or indeed, as someone else suggested, scammers that want to rip off botnet herders, not banks. You don't involve people in your gang if you don't absolutely need them. You don't train them, unless you absolutely need them to know things. The less people know as little as possible, the smaller the chance you will get caught. Causing a racket by recruiting up to 100 herders does not fit that MO.

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    1. Re:Questionable Validity by pitchpipe · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up! These guys must be morons if they think that they can keep 100 people quiet about anything, let alone thinking that they wouldn't be infiltrated by law enforcement.

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  5. Confusion by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm trying to remember, who are the bad guys here, the law-breaking, savings-stealing douchebags, or the guys running the botnet?

    1. Re:Confusion by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably the law-breaking, savings stealing douchebage who packed up a bag of crap and sold it as AAA financial instruments while betting against it. However putting you heart close to either one will end up in misery.

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    2. Re:Confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not everything is black and white. Sometimes all the parties are the bad guys.

    3. Re:Confusion by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People here often think in one or zero. If there are two options, they think it is yes or no. this OR that. black OR white. True OR False. Asking the OR question is like asking when somebody stopped hitting their wife. SO ask the question correctly with Logical connective

      This means there is more then just OR. At least you can also use AND, NOT and NOR

      Look at this: Do you want to have your right knee shot OR your left one?

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    4. Re:Confusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      just like in the US election!

  6. This is worrying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should be hacking banks using OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE and tools. (Strokes beard thoughtfully.) The use of proprietary, closed-source tools takes away from the common, computer using felon the ability to maintain his own malicious code.

    ~ Richard Stallman

  7. I got the email by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Funny

    May God the merciful grant you peace. You will be surprised to hear from me. I am MRS. HELENA SHOSTAKOVICH, widow of the late DMITRI SHOSTAKOVICH of hacker fame. My dear husband past away two weeks ago, leaving behind 1,500,000 credit card numbers worth THREE HUNDRED MILLIONS US DOLLARS. As I am unable to realize this sum here in Russia, I have been authorized to advance into your bank account FIVE MILLION DOLLARS for assistance in retrieving this funds. The requirement from you, to show you are an honest man of principle and good faith, is an insignificant small purchase of hardware from the following list: ...

    To avoid Putin's spies, I have retained agents in NIGERIA who will handle your transactions. Forward your credit card particulars to:

    Mr. JOHN MBUTU
    POST OFFICE WILL CALL
    LAGOS, NIGERIA

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  8. Die Hard 4 by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny

    these guys must be morons if they think that they can keep 100 people quiet about anything

    Timothy Olyphant's character worked that out with his scheme in Die Hard 4.

    1) Hire 100 hackers
    2) use their code to crack every bank and utility at once
    3) kill the hackers.
    4) profit!

    Killing all his staff did leave him vulnerable to being tracked by Kevin Smith and taken down by a plucky former LAPD cop though.

  9. +6 insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It does sound like a hollywood plot. You wouldn't want 100 people giving away the secrets, and it's not necessary when hackers use computers.

    There's two sets of crooks involved here, one set are crooks trying to steal stuff, other set are crooks trying to get budget for security theatre. My guess is that this comes from the latter rather than the former.

  10. Re:I have an attack strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Start "recruiting" people for the diversion A, to keep the RSA's FraudAction research team, the media and (therefore) the government busy with that.
    2. Don't tell anyone about the real plan B.
    3. Select the best people from the group working on A, and bring them in on plan B.
    4. for the profit part: Do plan B before diversion A
    5. for the fun part: don't cancel diversion A, just watch it live on the news.

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  12. Ah, bullshit. by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bullshit: if this were really happening, this guy would not be aware of it.

  13. Admiral Ackbar Says by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Also, the gang will only share executable files with their partners, and will not give up the Trojan's compilers, keeping the recruits dependent on the gang for updates

    It's a trap! Who's that fucking stupid?

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  14. Re:What better way to catch a theif? by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't arrest them for the crime you incite them to commit, it just allows you to identify and tag them. Then you monitor them for other illegal activities. That's what you arrest them for. (And by monitoring their communication, you can pick up other criminals that weren't attracted by the initial incitement. Allowing you to conduct coordinated international raids that take out entire networks. Also, you can find the few very best coders and recruit them. Possibly to work against their own government.)

    And if you really did unreasonably "incite" some of them, they won't commit other crimes, so they get away with it.

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  15. Rumours abound of a "False Flag" attack coming by advocate_one · · Score: 2

    on the banking system with the Iranians being blamed for it...

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