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DNA Analysis Probes the End of Human-Neanderthal Sex
An anonymous reader writes "Modern Europeans may have interbred with Neanderthals as recently as 37,000 years ago, after modern humans with advanced stone tools expanded out of Africa, according to a new study. In an attempt to understand why the Neanderthals are more closely related to people from outside of Africa, researchers from Harvard and the Max Planck Institute estimated that while the last sex between Neanderthals and modern humans may have occurred 37,000 to 86,000 years ago, it is most likely that it occurred 47,000 to 65,000 years ago."
Wow. Is this a platform for the US election campaign too?
raped my great-great-.......great grandaddy! and he liked it!
the last sex between Neanderthals and modern humans may have occurred 37,000 to 86,000 years ago
Maria Shriver begs to differ.
Something I thought of and found amusing was regarding the idea that brain-dead racists put forth saying black people are monkeys, they're inferior to whites, etc. If only they were smart enough to comprehend that, technically, blacks are more genetically pure homo sapiens than most whites are. We have Neanderthal DNA. They don't. I find it deliciously ironic, even as a white guy (although I'm not one of those bumpkins).
And that's still better than most Slashdot readers.
Humanity never had successful reproduction with sheep, but I wouldn't go as far as to claim as a result that we've never had sex with sheep.
I do wonder what changed after the alleged period when occasional reproduction occurred.
the neanderthal dna in indo-europeans has obviously made them superior. deal with it.
I mean come on, you were even beaten to this story by a weekly podcast by 2 days.
Pick your study. This one reported on in the same web site claims Researchers concluded that the similarities in the DNA are due to common ancestry and that Neanderthals and modern humans weren't inbreeding.
So you are telling me, that some couple has been without sex longer than Maria and Arnold . . . (ba-doom boom!)
Since all my female friends seem to be going dike?
Alternate title: "Scientists Discover Marriage"
There may have been a lot of sex without conception, and even a number of later Neanderthal-European hookups which did conceive. If the entire Neanderthal branch of evolution died out, it's equally possible that other, later branches, of Neanderthal-Euro stepkids died out, or used contraception. But I guess this gets the word "sex" in the headline, which is probably key. The study shows the last sex which produced surviving progeny which has been blood sampled, not necessarily evidence of the last snoo-snoo.
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My wife says that when we have sex, she is doing it with a Neanderthal. But she likes it that way, so we're good.
Neanderthal, largely considered inferior to"humans", managed to survive a quarter of a million years through several ice ages, by practicing strict birth-control and maintaining equilibrium with the surrounding environment.
Then came the crazy "modern" warlike Human with his "modern" tools, who rapidly wiped his predecessor out.
Then Modern Human spread like a virus, infecting every corner of the earth, killing off most species including large chunks of his own kind, until every natural resource was consumed, incapable of creating an environment of self-preservation. And he thought he was so smart and the sun shined out of his human ass...
And then one day, the last human died out in the middle of his desolated planet, with his iPhone500 charged up on solar energy but with nobody left to call from his depleted "social network". In the end, just another failed, closed-end mutation of a monkey.
They get you where you want to go, and they are a lot of fun until your friends see you riding one.
Did I miss that post?
Rgds
Damon
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No, she's saying that when she has sex, she's doing it with a Neanderthal.
I've dated a few chicks that thought I was a Neanderthal. I still got lucky though. Chicks just dig furrow brows.
Oh, yeah! Wise guy, huh? Woob woob woob woob! Nyuk! Nyuk!
Ozzy Osbourne's Genome Reveals Some Neandertal Lineage:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=ozzy-osbourne-genome
* "Will wonders never cease"...
APK
P.S.=> I've got no problems with that, especially when he makes tunes as good as this one ( "Killer of GIANTS" ) -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWPcFtra4A
... apk
I suppose it must have been about 50,000 years ago when the Neanderthals really started to let themselves go, remember?
Baboons are cute.
If humans now have N genes, and didn't before, then "Modern" humans are the ones that have N genes. To say nothing about habits and manners. Don't get me started on that. :) Since then, it's all about inbreeding, really. And reinforcement. Thank goodness they didn't find any Annunaki sex toys, or something. :)
Either way, they were either Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis or Homo Neanderthalensis, but most certainly not Homo Sapiens Sapiens, which is our species.
Pedantic quibble: Homo Sapiens is a (genus and) species designation. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a species designation with a subspecies appended. So, correctly, our species is Homo Sapiens.
As I understand it, whether Neanderthals were a subspecies of homo sap., or a separete species within the genus, has been debated without a firm consensus reached. I expect that the DNA evidence has now added a new set of evidence which will potentially allow a consensus to be reached.
the cast of the television series "Jersy Shore" continue to procreate, I for one as a scientist cannot in good conscience rule definitively on the end of human-neanderthal intercourse.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Some people're choosy about what they coppulate with and other's screw anything. Seems neandertle's have some taste.
Keep the whitehouse white, vote Trump & Palin 2020.
Pics or it didn't happen! (Or in this age: YouTube or it didn't happen)
What makes me laugh is the changes that have occurred in artists illustrations of Neanderthals: Before dna connection made: Ugly, primitive - almost thuggish. After dna connection: Intelligent looking, caring for others - could almost be your old uncle... (not mine though;-)
When she said no.
Why only last night, but it was really dark and I was pretty wasted. I'm ashamed to tell you the rest. I think the scratches are going to heal pretty well though.
On y va, qui mal y pense!
Neanderthal means Neander Valley in German. I used to live near Dusseldorf which is also close to this valley in Germany. There is a really nice train ride to get to it, there's a nice nature trail and a museum with some displays of Neanderthal bones and artifacts. Neanderthals could probably interbreed with modern humans even if they were a new species. There are inter-special hybrids, such as mules. But they are usually sterile if the genome is too divergent. Neanderthal DNA is believed to be in our modern genome too. So they could not have been to genetically different than we are. Species are somewhat arbitrarily assigned anyway. It is also commonly believed by many that they were lesser mentally developed and brute beasts. The average cranial capacity of Neanderthal skulls exceeds that of modern humans. There's a lot of controversy surrounding their intellectual ability. Especially their language skills. The hyoid bone in your throat allows you to produce the sounds of modern language. They have found Neanderthal hyoid bones which were well developed. This has deepened that controversy. Just like there is great physical diversity among domestic dogs, why couldn't the same apply to homo sapiens? There is speculation that they were not immune to some of the infectious diseases that we had spread to their population. That this might have been the cause of their extinction and not our superiority. This would also explain why contact with them invariably led to extinction.
Oh, yeah! Wise guy, huh? Woob woob woob woob! Nyuk! Nyuk!
No *you* lie! Posting on Slashdot and maintaining that you have a wife. And having sex with her and everything! Tss.
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
... so I guess Africans are the only true and pure humans on the planet :D They must be turning on their graves LOL
Its still unclear how different Neanderthals may have appeared, but probably not that different. They could probably talk, but maybe not as well as cromagnon. They may have appeared more "robust", ie. muscular. Probably both of are races were your typical ape "horndogs" willing to have sex with anything that looked decent at certain times. Most of the apes and modern humans are like this.
Here's proof: The Many Faces of Ron Perlman"
No *you* lie! Posting on Slashdot and maintaining that you have a wife.
When he says 'wife' he's referring to his "One Million Years B.C." poster of Raquel Welch on the basement wall.
This also explains the 'Neanderthal' fantasy.
I don't believe the earth is that old. Sometimes I wonder how things ended up getting this far out here in the twilight zone. We have devolved in a few ways, especially socially. I laugh at myself for even saying anything to yas.
i can see neanderthal in that just as much as in arnold
unless your comment is more of a morality judgment on his actions, in that case WHOOSH on me
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
please
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
It's still going on today !!
produce viable offspring. This proves that if man can stick his dick in it, he will fuck it.
"You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
at least from what i saw.
So the neanderthal's are the guys and girls from Battlestar Galactica after all as seen in the last episode. They had sex with the humans on earth and we are the descendants as a result.
http://books.google.com.mt/books?id=iK1YbKrNRcoC&lpg=PA57&ots=KmOIWXGCTv&dq=neanderthal%20battlestar%20galactica&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q=neanderthal%20battlestar%20galactica&f=false
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The most amazing fact her is the lie that 'modern man' came from Africa. Even the author of the idea doesn't believe it any longer so why can't /.'ers read and learn from his mistakes. And as for the sex.... Bertha... Bertha Butt... One of the Butt sisters... And she said "yeaaAAAA".
descended from human/neanderthal hybrids. For example, the character trait of not being able to accept change and adapt easily to changes in environment. Or, still holding on to long disproven beliefs.