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520-Million-Year-Old Arthropod May Have Had the First Modern Brain

An anonymous reader writes "Scientists say that the recently discovered 520 million year old insect brain, the oldest brain ever discovered in an arthropod, is surprisingly complex for its age, and may be the earliest example on record of a modern brain structure. Hailed as a 'transformative discovery,' researchers said that the 3-inch-long fossilized extinct arthropod found in Yunnan Province, China, shows that insects evolved to have complex brains significantly earlier than previously thought. Researchers said that the fossilized brain, which looks very similar to brains of modern insects, may provide a missing link that offers new insight on the evolutionary history of arthropods, a group of invertebrates that includes insects, spiders and crustaceans."

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  1. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

    Access has been blocked because of: Tru-View has categorised this page as Drugs

    Mind you the funniest one I have come across was a page about "sharp calculators classed as weapons. Well I suppose a (literally) sharp calculator could be!

  2. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Informative

    You didnt miss much. Just some conclusions about the evolution of insects:

    They explained that up until now, research on insects has been divided into two camps. While some researchers believe that insects evolved from the same ancestor that gave rise to malacostracans, a group of crustaceans that include crabs and shrimp, the majority of scientists believe that they were derived from a group of crustaceans called branchiopods, a species that includes include brine shrimp, which have a simpler brain anatomy than malacostracans.

    However, researchers from the latest study say that the new finding shows that insects did in fact evolve from creatures that already possessed complex brains.
    Read more at http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/12631/20121010/520-million-year-old-bug-creature-first.htm#hclmrDOPXj8WW6PR.99

  3. offensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive.

    1. Re:offensive by Walterk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Note to mods: the above is a reference to famous sci-fi Starship Troopers.

      Would you like to know more?

    2. Re:offensive by azalin · · Score: 1

      "If it's got more than two legs, shoot it!" (or something along this line, it's been to long)

    3. Re:offensive by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      "Come on, you apes! You wanna live forever!?"

      I think the quote from the book is slightly different:

      "Move it, Apes! Do you want to live forever?"

      Would you like to know more?

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    4. Re:offensive by wolverine2k · · Score: 1

      Well, now we can legally call someone bug head or insect head...

    5. Re:offensive by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Funny

      Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive.

      You have not seen the AI code in development. Sometimes the code becomes sentient prematurely and the bugs think they are features.

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    6. Re:offensive by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      I really would love it if they remade that movie to actually include powered armor.

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    7. Re:offensive by rossdee · · Score: 2

      I am sure that Robert Anson Heinlein tirns over in his grave whenever anyone mentions that crappy movie.
      He would like to be remembered for the book though.

    8. Re:offensive by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Also an Asimov short story with aliens that breathe chlorine and look like giant houseflys, titled C-Chute. Unfortunately, the linked wiki article doesn't mention their looking like insects.

    9. Re:offensive by Zaphod-AVA · · Score: 2

      Not entirely fair. It's certainly a terrible attempt at a Starship Troopers movie, however when I mentally rename it to "Bugs From Space" and ignore the sound of Heinlein spinning in his grave, it becomes a lot more enjoyable. The effects are decent, it has a good sense of humor, a lovely redhead, and Neil Patrick Harris

    10. Re:offensive by Genda · · Score: 1

      I find Heinleins spinning in his grave, gives the movie soundtrack an edgy whine that makes it more suspenseful. I would actually change the name of the movie to "RRRRAAAAIIIDDDD!!!"

    11. Re:offensive by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure sure. It did the RIGHT thing in that it didn't slavishly follow the book--most movies that do fail because books aren't the same as movies, so doing a 1-to-1 translation doesn't really work.

      Heinlein also had certain political views that he trotted out in his books: citizenship through service, government control, propaganda, etc. The Starship Troopers movie actually does a really good job of a lot of that. Despite the big explosions and (sometimes) goofy dialogue and meaningless romance/sex scenes, the political undercurrent of the stories is still there. The movie has real political messages, if you're willing to look at them and not spend all the time watching the movie lamenting that it's not the same as the original.

      I think RAH would have liked it. :)

  4. And the Scarecrow said by oDDmON+oUT · · Score: 2

    "Finally".

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    chewing through my restraints.
    1. Re:And the Scarecrow said by should_be_linear · · Score: 1

      It said "First Post!"

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  5. And in China.... by busyqth · · Score: 1

    You know for sure that the first thought through the minds of Chinese researchers upon finding this fossilized bug: "What does it taste like?"
    I mean, that was pretty much my first thought.. well, right after "what's the best way to cook it?"

    1. Re:And in China.... by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      The fossilized arthropod probably tastes like fossilized chicken.

  6. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by azalin · · Score: 2

    The feather (or pen) is mightier than the sword, so calculators (especially sharp ones) should be considered dangerous.
    On the other hand I'm have some trouble with the exact level of dangerousness. If pen beats sword (and thereby knife and dagger), what would a pocket calculator beat?

  7. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 2, Funny

    You didnt miss much. Just some conclusions about the evolution of insects:

    I could have got that watching the conservative party conference

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  8. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If pen beats sword (and thereby knife and dagger), what would a pocket calculator beat?

    Barack Obama at calculating the deficit?

  9. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by Rufty · · Score: 2

    While a sharp calculator may have a certain level of dangerousness, to really cause damage you need a spreadsheet.

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  10. We came to find you by slashdime · · Score: 1

    Over half a billion years. As far as we know, it's only been 13.75 billion years since (the|this most recent) big bang. That's 3.636% (repeating of course) of the age of the universe we've spent evolving our minds. And now we cast our gaze back over half a billion years in wonder.

    1. Re:We came to find you by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      still... nearly half the bug's DNA should still be viable ;)

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    2. Re:We came to find you by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      my bad - misread the first article, what I should have said was:

      still... nearly 0.5^998080 fraction of the DNA should still be viable.

      I think it lost the giggle factor second time round...

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  11. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by azalin · · Score: 1

    You didnt miss much. Just some conclusions about the evolution of insects:

    What is this evolution you talk of, and how can this insect be 520 million years old, if earth is only 6000 years old?
    I still don't know whether to laugh or cry, when I hear people try to proclaim creationism as science. Otoh trying to get it into the classroom pisses me of for sure.

  12. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by azalin · · Score: 2

    Nice one... Still the question of what weapon a calculator would beat remains unanswered. A pointy stick, a knife, assault rifle, sarin gas or an icbm? The whole issue is rather tricky. In close combat a pocket calculator is rather worthless, even if thrown in a slingshot. If it is used to calculate ballistic flight paths for artillery things change...

  13. Damn by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reading this from the couch on the TV with large fonts, I read the title as:

    520-Million-Year-Old Arthropod May Have Had the First Modem!

    and I thought, damn, news for nerds, finally!

    1. Re:Damn by Genda · · Score: 1

      And you never heard crickets downloading Katydid porn on a warm summer night?

      Slash-dotters lead such sheltered lives...

  14. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

    Performing oral sex or having sex without a condom may benefit both mental and physical health in women, according to scientists who analyzed the effects of semen's "mood-altering chemicals."

    Citation needed on that.

    Desperately!

  15. Holy dilemma, batman! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    But if it wasn't sharp it'd infringe Apple's patents.

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  16. Uhhhhhh by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 3, Interesting

    520 million years, or a good ways into the Atdabanian Stage. At that point trilobites have been around for at least 6 million years already. Surely they had fairly sophisticated arthropod brains. I dunno, this seems a little late, the primary radiation in Euarthropoda almost certainly came before this guy lived. In any case the systematics of arthropods are a mess.

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  17. She's gonna be disappointed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    My daughter thinks SHE has the first modern brain.

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  18. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

    If pen beats sword (and thereby knife and dagger), what would a pocket calculator beat?

    Barack Obama at calculating the deficit?

    Congress at creating a budget.

  19. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    You didnt miss much. Just some conclusions about the evolution of insects:

    What is this evolution you talk of, and how can this insect be 520 million years old, if earth is only 6000 years old?

    I still don't know whether to laugh or cry, when I hear people try to proclaim creationism as science. Otoh trying to get it into the classroom pisses me of for sure.

    Don't be absurd. Evolution is a Lie from Hell. I have that straight from the congressional panel on Science and Technology.

  20. Re:Evidence against evolution? by NEDHead · · Score: 1

    They are the backbone of the Republican Party! (insert comments about lack of spine, segmented bodies, etc. here)

  21. Who knew... by bodland · · Score: 1

    Paul Ryan was that old....

    1. Re:Who knew... by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Paul Ryan isn't that old. John McCain, Mitch McConnell, and Joe Lieberman, on the other hand ...

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  22. Re:Evidence against evolution? by rossdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you add up all the intelligence of all the Republicans on the House science committee it would still be less than one of those bugs.

  23. Wait a minute... by musixman · · Score: 2

    You mean the earth wasn't created 6,000 years ago?

  24. He may have had the first modern Brain, but . . . by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    He did not have the first modern birth control and must have coupled with someone of the opposite gender.

    And here we are today with imaginary "Intellectual Property".

    Oh, look, Joe found a better, faster way to make fire! Too bad the rest of us aren't allowed to do that.

    Oh, look, Bill found that a spear works better than a club for killing prey! Too bad the rest of us can't do that.

    Oh, look, John found that using round wheels work better than rectangles with rounded corners! Too bad the rest of us can't use that idea.

    Oh, look! ! ! Ted found a way of having sex that looks like a lot more fun. Too bad . . .

    Etc, etc.

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  25. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    When in actuality, it should have been categorized as Bugs...

  26. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    While a sharp calculator may have a certain level of dangerousness, to really cause damage you need a spreadsheet.

    Spreadsheets are truly the weapons of math destruction.

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  27. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    "Performing oral sex or having sex without a condom may benefit both mental and physical health in women, according to scientists who analyzed the effects of semen's "mood-altering chemicals."

    Citation needed on that.

    Desperately!

    I can't speak to the accuracy of the claims, but here. Pretty much verbatim.

    Anecdotally, I know what being on the receiving end does for my mood though. ;-)

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  28. Re:Damn corporate web blocker! by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

    Thanks for that, nice to know. If I ever get out of my mom's basement and get a 'real' girl, I need to make sure she reads this. "There's your proof right there on the internet, honey, so it's really true! Now..." :-)