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Why Eric Schmidt Is Wrong About Microsoft Not Mattering Anymore

First time accepted submitter Gumbercules!! writes "Eric Schmidt said he believes there is a 'Gang of Four' technology platform leaders — Google, Apple, Amazon and Facebook — Microsoft isn't one of them. I wrote about why I believe he's wrong and what it might say about Google's weaknesses. From the article: 'It's no secret that Microsoft have utterly failed to make significant roads into the mobile market place. Windows Phone 7 has approximately no marketshare (ok they have live 5% or so) and this has actually gone down over the last year. It's also no secret that Microsoft have failed to gain any semblance of "cool" and that they're also managing to drag Nokia down with them. It's not even a secret that nearly everyone who looks at the new Windows 8 interface-formally-known-as-Metro doesn't like it. However this isn't the whole story.'"

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  1. Notice one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All four of the companies mentioned are walled-in gardens.

    1. Re:Notice one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I noticed three of them, whatever else they do, produce things that are useful, and one produces nothing but qiestionable marketing drivel and lack of privacy.

  2. This guy is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would I buy a laptop or a PC for my staff ever again I could buy them a single tablet – or even pocket sized phone – that just connects to a dock or cable and viola - it’s now a fully fledged PC, running all my corporate software, legacy or otherwise on a full sized monitor with keyboard and mouse.

    This paragraph proves that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

    1. Re:This guy is dumb by ArsonSmith · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ...As i sit here with my phone docked to a 22" monitor with Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, RDP'd into a virtual desktop that runs all my corporate software, legacy and otherwise.

      this post shows that you don't know what you're talking about and a bunch of moderators seem to agree.

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    2. Re:This guy is dumb by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He does not get it. No it will not run and work. Tablet software runs and works well because it basically does very little, or is very heavily optimized.

      We did real work on computers slower than current low end smartphones less than 20 years ago.

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    3. Re:This guy is dumb by CyranoDeBergerac · · Score: 5, Funny

      that just connects to a dock or cable and viola

      Excellent; now I just need a dock connector for my violin and cello and I won't have to carry around that pesky string quartet any more.

    4. Re:This guy is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Read the whole article. He's spot on. He specifically said "wait 12 months, then this gets interesting". In 12 months the Haswell-based Microsoft tablets will be out. This is an architecture that has been designed, from the ground up, to absolutely sip power. Read the Anandtech.com article on Haswell: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture

      If Intel manages to execute on what they're promising with Haswell, you will ABSOLUTELY be able to purchase a Wintel tablet that can replace today's "Laptop Workstation".

      Paired with a halfway decent mobile dock that includes a keyboard, the laptop use cases are covered. Paired with a desktop-dock and the existing monitors and keyboard in your office, you won't miss your existing laptop.

      How is it that so many on Slashdot don't see the potential in this? Everyone who is complaining "but-but Tablets! touch interfaces, gak no!" isn't actually READING the article... YOU GET A KEYBOARD WHEN YOU ADD THE DOCK. You have the best of ALL worlds, what's the downside? One device, no syncing other than to [INSERT_CLOUD_PROVIDER_HERE], from ONE DEVICE that's ALWAYS WITH YOU.

  3. Ho hum by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet another "Please come read my blog post where I totally miss the point of what someone said, but read it anyway so I can get some ad revenue" story on Slashdot.

    I read the article. It boils down to "Microsoft may make a comeback so they matter". Given the lack of anything other than speculation in the article - the author could've just as easily replaced "Microsoft" with "RIM". I mean, really - we should expect Windows tablets to make a strong showing simply because they can run Windows applications? Then why didn't all the old Windows tablets end up ruling the roost?

    Microsoft isn't a game-changer anymore. Sure, it's possible they'll rebound - after all, Apple was in the same boat in the 1990s. But they haven't demonstrated any reason we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

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    1. Re:Ho hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thanks to Microsoft my on-premise private cloud is about to get a whole lot cheaper as they force VMware to start giving away the features we pay a lot for now. Windows 2012 is a game changer for the enterprise as they force the other vendors to drop their pants and remove the cost and other barriers to and agile cloud based IT scape.
      I think anyone who assume MS are over and out are going to get flanked. It is a very exciting time as MS have shown they aren't old dogs.

  4. Link to actual comment by rgbrenner · · Score: 5, Informative

    An article about how wrong he is.. but no link to his actual comments? Really?

    http://allthingsd.com/20121010/live-from-new-york-walt-mossberg-kara-swisher-interview-eric-schmidt/

    Schmidt: Something unusual has happened. All four companies are networks/platforms generating enormous scale effects. We’ve never had that before: Facebook, Amazon, Apple and Google. All different, all competitors, all making enormous investments.

    Swisher: You left out Microsoft:

    Schmidt: Deliberate. ...

    Mossberg: Why did you keep Microsoft out of the Gang of Four?

    Schmidt: They’re a well-run company, but they haven’t been able to bring state-of-the-art products into the fields we’re talking about yet.

    8:23 pm: Schmidt: The Android-Apple platform fight is the defining contest. Here’s why: Apple has thousands of developers building for it. Google’s platform, Android, is even larger. Four times more Android phones than Apple phones. 500 million phones already in use. Doing 1.3 million activations a day. We’ll be at 1 billion mobile devices in a year.

    Schmidt: We’ve not seen network platform fights at this scale. The beneficiary is you all, the customer, globally. “This is wonderful.”

    8:25 pm: Compare this to the PC industry. Phone user population is six billion, one billion smartphone users. Much bigger than the PC industry — maybe a billion, 1.5 billion installed.
    Every month, quarter, year, the growth rate of mobile adoption exceeds everyone’s expectations. The phones become so useful that “it’s good enough for normal people” in lieu of a PC, for day-to-day events. Years ago, “people like myself, we missed that.”

    1) It's Eric Schmidt. of course he's biased.

    and

    2) he didn't seem to be specifically talking about mobile. Facebook, Google+, etc.

    So it's laughable that 100m apple phones, or 500m android phones is a significant platform.. but the OS used on 95% of a billion PCs somehow is not.

  5. Microsoft isn't completely irrelevant -- yet by stargazer1sd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Eric Schmidt has spend a lot of time competing against Microsoft. I think he's mostly right. Microsoft has only been able to prosper through monopoly tactics and those won't work anymore. They come out with a lousy version 1.0 to keep competitors away, refine it some through versions 2 and 3, then version 4 becomes useful. They can't even think about that strategy now because someone else came out with version s 1, 2, and 3.

    Microsoft is still dominant in the word processing and spreadsheet markets. Unfortunately, they'll probably lose that franchise, given the rise of PDF for interchange, and their unwillingness to port their products to either Android or iOS. Someone with deep pockets, probably Google, will come along and take those markets from them.

    There's also a lot of back office software that uses their servers, databases, and development tools.But those markets will never grow as quickly as the consumer end.

    They won't be going away any time soon, but if they're ever going to get back in to growing markets, they need to change radically. In the end, no company that size will turn on a dime, and its not clear whether there's still time for them to get back in the game.

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  6. Re:Wha?? by afgam28 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having a good selling tablet makes you an leader in computing?

    No. Amazon is there because of AWS, not because of the Kindle Fire.

    This is basically a list of companies that Eric Schmidt sees as direct competitors to Google. Each one established and now dominates a field that Google desperately wants to get into: the cloud (AWS vs GCE), mobile (iOS vs Android) and social media (Google+ vs Facebook).

    The reason Microsoft is not mentioned is because it does not pose a serious threat to Google in any of these markets.

  7. Re:A fish rots from the head, down... by TENTH+SHOW+JAM · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's nice for the PC market. Says me listening to music using a smart phone while typing on a tablet. The PC market will never disappear, too many jobs require too much screen real estate to be conveniently carried about. But you cant use the PC market to leverage the NEXT BIG THING anymore.

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  8. Re:Microsoft by xevioso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Coolness" is an added value which the market appreciates, but what matters the most to the market is the practicality of the product - and in Microsoft's case, I'm sorry to say there is a lack of practical value for most of its products today.

    Uh...what? Granted, this is from 2010, but it hasn't changed much:

    "Worldwide, 500 million customers use Office. Office's marketshare has held steady at 94 percent for years according to market research firm Gartner. The next closest competitor, Adobe has a mere 4 percent of the market. "
    http://www.dailytech.com/Office+2010+to+Launch+Today+Microsoft+Owns+94+Percent+of+the+Market/article18360.htm

    So those 94 percent of people find no practical use in Microsoft products?

  9. Re:Microsoft by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    My niche: Agricultural simulations built atop large social networking site APIs.
    My blog title: How modern technology has consolidated around Farmville and the rise of Farmville Cash will eventually replace the global currency markets.

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  10. Re:Walled gardens by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot argumentation 101: If I don't want it, why would anyone else?

    In this lesson you'll learn how your personal wants and needs define markets for all things. In week 2 we'll review cutting edge research in to the paradox of men having no use for tampons, yet millions are sold each day.

    Some people find it useful to be able to export their data - even those silly status updates.

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