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Chuck Yeager Re-Enacts the Historic Flight That Broke the Sound Barrier

Hugh Pickens writes "The Seattle Times reports that exactly 65 years to the minute after becoming the first human to fly faster than the speed of sound, retired Air Force Brig. Gen. Chuck Yeager flew in the back seat of an F-15 Eagle as it broke the sound barrier at more than 30,000 feet above California's Mojave Desert — the same area where he first achieved the feat in 1947 while flying an experimental rocket plane. Asked by a young girl if he was scared during Sunday's flight, Yeager joked, 'Yeah, I was scared to death.' Yeager made the first supersonic flight in a rocket-powered, Bell X-1, known as the XS-1 for 'experimental, supersonic,' attached to the belly of a B-29 aircraft. Hiding the pain of broken ribs from a midnight horse race after a night of drinking at Pancho Barnes' Happy Bottom Riding Club, Yeager squeezed into the aircraft with no safe way to bail out. Soon after the rocket plane was released, Yeager powered it upward to about 42,000 feet altitude, then leveled off and sped to 650 mph, or Mach 1.07. Some aviation historians contend that American pilot George Welch broke the sound barrier before Yeager, while diving an XP-86 Sabre on October 1, 1947 and there is also a disputed claim by German pilot Hans Guido Mutke that he was the first person to break the sound barrier, on April 9, 1945, in a Messerschmitt Me 262. Yeager's flight was portrayed in the opening scenes of The Right Stuff, the 1983 movie, based on the book by Tom Wolfe that chronicles America's space race. For his part Yeager said nothing special was going through his mind at the time of the re-enactment. 'Flying is flying. You can't add a lot to it.'"

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  1. Hey Ridley, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...got a stick of Beemans?

  2. Re-enacts? by EmagGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really?

    No, sorry, it is not a re-enactment. He just went for a supersonic flight as a passenger.

    1. Re:Re-enacts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd like to see you re-enact anything besides shitting your pants when you're 89. Show the man a little respect, jackass.

    2. Re:Re-enacts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I know, right? It's like those Civil War 're-enactors'; those pansies don't even use real bullets!

    3. Re:Re-enacts? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Those civil-war "re-enactors" don't even use the same people.

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    4. Re:Re-enacts? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      No, sorry, it is not a re-enactment. He just went for a supersonic flight as a passenger.

      You could argue that he was a passenger on his first attempt as well. After all, for the supersonic part, he really couldn't do much than sit on his hands.

      It's actually a facinating look at human history - between rockets and missiles and the early space missions. How much should the human be involved (or even should they?). During the early days it was a serious question of just how much should the human be involved and what to do with bad inputs. With full modelling of feedback loops.

      And yes, a lot of early arguments for humans in the loop boiled down to bravado and the like (being that the early astronauts came from test pilot track and such). Even if they didn't really do much other than look pretty during the part you wanted to test.

      Not to understate his achievement of course (he is Chuck freakin' Yeager!), but this was during the age of early flight computers and autopilots and space exploration.

    5. Re:Re-enacts? by dywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Uninformed troll. He was not a passenger. He flew second seat, which is customary when you are in a two-seater that isn't your plane.

      Still has full flight controls and he was flying the aircraft. Yeager has flown the F15 for many years. He is more than qualified in the type. He is one hte most naturally gifted pilots ever to exist. The aircraft hasnt been made that he cant fly (this includes the Space Shuttle and the Mercury capsule, both of which he qualified for on the simulators). The only reason the plane commander was even there is because of Yeagar's advanced years and recent health problems, even though he had been flying F15s solo even up until a couple years ago.

      One of the perks of being a retired General who still maintains his flight quals, and also partly cause hey, its Yeager, a man who in his 70s could still outfly men 40 years younger than he.

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    6. Re:Re-enacts? by dywolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      The X-1 was fully controlled by the pilot. Yeager, and more importantly his friend Jack Ridley, and the X-1 were the source of the all-moving tailplane that became essential to maintianing control of aircraft through the transonic and supersonic realms of flight. Prior to that invention the shockwave would overpower the controls leading to loss of control and crash.

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    7. Re:Re-enacts? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, but Yeager couldn't have so easily used this modern F15 plane with modern, easy controls to exceed the sound barrier if it hadn't been for many brave pioneers who went before him and developed and bravely tested supersonic trav...

      Wait. Nevermind.

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  3. Scared by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Yeah, I was scared to death.'

    Joking or not, once you have been Pilot in Command, when you fly with someone else, you do get kind of twitchy. Kind of like riding in a car with a newly licensed 16 year old. When YOU are not in control, things seem different and possibly scary.

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  4. 65 years minus 1 day by Lord+Lode · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Interesting, if that's so then exactly 65 years minus 1 day after the first human to cross the sound barrier in an airplane, we have the first human to cross the sound barrier without airplane (yesterday)!

  5. Probbably not the first by thrich81 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is a well established legend (story, rumor?) that Yeager's supersonic flight was beaten by a couple of weeks by the F-86 prototype doing flight testing. The pilot, George Welch, was a test pilot for North American aviation and was doing tests including high speed dives before the X-1's supersonic flight. The aircraft was not instrumented to prove it at the time, but later it was conclusively shown that the F-86 would go supersonic in dives. Supposedly the Air Force hushed it all up at the time. Fascinating note in aviation history -- http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0113.shtml.

    1. Re:Probbably not the first by KernelMuncher · · Score: 2

      Yeager did it in level flight - a huge difference

    2. Re:Probbably not the first by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

      The Wiki makes it sound VERY debatable. There's been an issue with air speed indicators showing false readings as you approach the sound barrier. I've heard stories of prop plane pilots thinking they broke the sound barrier in that era (which is supposed to be impossible).

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    3. Re:Probbably not the first by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

      I thought the big secret of going supersonic learned during the X-1 program (thanks to Jack Ridley's improvisation) was having a flying tail.

      F-86 didn't get a flying tail until the E model. Welch was supposed to have broken the sound barrier in a steep dive with hinged elevators? Wouldn't the elevator lose all effectiveness due to the shockwaves slamming against the elevator hinge? Which, since he was in a steep dive, meant he couldn't pull out and thus crash into the ground or the plane disintegrating from exceeding VNE?

  6. Re:Is this... by Seeteufel · · Score: 3, Informative

    In 1941 the V2 rockets reached Mach5. In any case, supersonic flight was even possible with the French Concorde passenger aircraft.

  7. Commemorative flight, not re-enactment by Hagaric · · Score: 4, Informative

    Calling it a reenactment is just journalistic hyperbole.. As for the first to break the sound barrier, there are several contenders according to criteria.. Yaeger was the first to do it deliberately, measurably, in level flight, and survive. Geoffrey DeHavilland broke it in the DH108 but died in the process. The xf-86 prototype with George Welch almost certainly did it before him, but once again, in a barely-controlled dive. The same with all the other claims, they were not in control and they were lucky to survive, if they did.

    1. Re:Commemorative flight, not re-enactment by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      It is not, and never has been, a barrier; it's a hurdle.

      I... er... uh... what?

      And what is a hurdle if not a low barrier?

      It was a barrier, for several reasons. One is that on entering the transonic regime, drag increases massively. The other is that aircraft tended to go out of control and crash unpleasantly, or get low enough that they were no longer supersonic, with a return of control.

      The problems were mostly solved by a better understangind of aerodynamics. For instance, increasing the critical mach number decreased the size of the transsonic region, and using area ruling greatly reduced the wave drag. Even so, high power engines are still required to go supersonic, after which the drag drops off considerably.

      The other problem is that shockwaves interact with subsonic wing designs in all sorts of nasty ways, including flexing effects etc. This problem was solved with a better understading of aerodynamics, controlling where the shockwave starts and goes and a commensurate understanding of how to prevent nasty flexing effects.

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    2. Re:Commemorative flight, not re-enactment by tqk · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is not, and never has been, a barrier; it's a hurdle.

      You're mistaken. Back then, approaching the speed of sound, every plane went into a phase of uncontrollable buffeting. The theory back then was any faster and any plane would break apart. Yeager's X-1 flight proved it wasn't true. Past the speed of sound, you fly faster than the turbulence and it's as smooth as silk.

      I'm glad to hear Chuck's still flying, and not in a liquid fueled bomb.

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    3. Re:Commemorative flight, not re-enactment by dywolf · · Score: 2

      There never been any proof that any of those planes actually achieved Mach 1+. None. The single biggest source of all speculation is the fact the USAF kept Yeager's flight secret for over a year, and only said something after the Brits finally did it successfully.

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  8. Re:Disputed claims by Hagaric · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Highest speed ever recorded in a piston-engined aircraft was mach 0.92 in a spitfire.. the pilot only survived because the propeller and reduction gear got ripped off the aircraft and the resulting shift in the center of gravity caused an 11g pullout of an otherwise fatal dive. apparently the wings were distinctly "swept" after the event.

  9. Re:Disputed claims by crazyjj · · Score: 2

    The difference is that the WWII planes could only do it in a near-suicidal dive. The X-1 could do it intentionally, under normal powered flight.

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  10. Re:Is this... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

    Your wording about the Concorde is really odd here. The purpose of the Concorde was supersonic passenger flight. It's downfall was all the bitch and moaning about sonic booms over populated areas.

  11. Re:Sure He Did by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting trivia point... F-15 is older than I am. First F-15 flight was a mere 27 years after Yeagers flight, and was also 38 years ago. So F-15's are so old, they're closer to the days of Yeagers first flight than they are to close to today. That must trip out F-15 pilots, its theoretically possible that a F-15 could have been flown by three generations of the same family... bomber and transport pilots are used to that but traditionally fighter planes don't serve for 4 decades.

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  12. Re:Disputed claims by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most of those claims were based on what the pilot saw on the airspeed indicator. Trouble is, the reading on an ordinary ASI is meaningless from about Mach 0.9 up. A standard ASI senses the difference between the pitot and static air pressures; a Machmeter senses their ratio.

  13. Re:Is this... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's downfall was all the bitch and moaning about sonic booms over populated areas.

    No, it's downfall was that, for the vast majority of people, Mach 0.74 in a 737 is fast enough for the price-point, and people with deep pockets would rather pay for luxury...

    http://tinyurl.com/8tvmthd

    ...not speed.

  14. This would have been a lot better.. by sargon666777 · · Score: 2

    This would have been a lot better if he just made jet noises, and a plane shape out of his hand, and after going.. boom and thrusting his hand forward exclaimed.. "And that's how I broke the sound barrier!"

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  15. Re:Disputed claims by osu-neko · · Score: 4, Informative

    - The Me262 was a jet fighter/bomber. WWII plane. As cited in a post above, some claim it broke the sound barrier in levelled flight.

    No. No one (who knows anything) claims the Me 262 broke the sound barrier in level flight. It was a jet, but not a very fast one; it's not even remotely possible it could achieve that speed in level flight. One German pilot claimed to have done it in a 90 degree nosedive, but he was doubtless fooled by erroneous elevated readings from his pitot-based airspeed indicator that can often occur at high speeds. If he'd actually made it to trans-sonic speeds in an Me 262 airframe, he'd have ripped the wings off.

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  16. Re:Wasn't Chuck Yeager injured or sick? by megalomaniacs4u · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other words he was a typical test pilot of the time.