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UK ISPs Asked To Block More File-sharing Websites

another random user writes with this news from the BBC: "The UK's major internet service providers have been asked to block three more file-sharing websites. The BPI (British Phonographic Industry), which acts on behalf of rights holders, wants ISPs to prevent access to Fenopy, H33t and Kickass Torrents. The BPI alleges that the sites are illegally distributing music. The ISPs told the BBC they would comply with the new demand, but only if a court order is put in place. It follows a separate court order in April which saw popular file-sharing site The Pirate Bay blocked in the UK. ... The letter, which was not intended to go public, was sent to six ISPs last week, namely BT, Sky, Virgin Media, O2, EE and TalkTalk. It is understood that the BPI is hoping all three sites will be blocked before Christmas — far more quickly than the process has taken previously."

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  1. They have an industry association for... by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, never mind; misread that.

    1. Re:They have an industry association for... by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incidentally, I found out that in Germany they *do* have an industry association for that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%9CFA

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  2. Re:70's porn music? by EthanV2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's Phonographic

  3. Is anyone really surprised by this? by JosKarith · · Score: 4, Informative

    So TPB's ban was the thin end of the wedge? What a surprise.
    And I absolutely love "The letter, which was not intended to go public" - so they want ISP's to filter traffic for them without all the hassle of legal process or negative public opinion.

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  4. Precedent by ruir · · Score: 2

    Here is a precedent for censorship...boycott the fuckers, no more DVDs, CDs and cinema for me.

    1. Re:Precedent by dmacleod808 · · Score: 2

      see, the RIAA/MPAA will just assume if you are boycotting them, that you are indeed pirating more, since this clearly why they lose revenue.

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    2. Re:Precedent by grahamm · · Score: 2

      And they just cannot understand how anyone would not want to watch/listen to the movies/music produced by their members. The same as the UK TV Licensing cannot understand how any household could live without a TV set, so assume that anyone who does not have a TV licence is watching TV illegally.

    3. Re:Precedent by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2

      Yes, that's true, I think. Just today I saw a funny article here, which begins by claiming that piracy is the reason that the newspaper industry is on the decline. (The site is focused on the music industry, but the author seems to blame piracy for every bad thing that happens in the world.)

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    4. Re:Precedent by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      And they just cannot understand how anyone would not want to watch/listen to the movies/music produced by their members. The same as the UK TV Licensing cannot understand how any household could live without a TV set, so assume that anyone who does not have a TV licence is watching TV illegally.

      If you don't have a TV you don't have to pay for a TV licence. Similarly, if you don't want to pay to watch a movie or listen to a piece of music, don't.

      The movie/music industries exist because people want to consume their products. You always have the option not to consume them.

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  5. Dear BPI, by Tastecicles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fuck off, you do not hold any copyrights yourselves, therefore you are NOT LEGALLY QUALIFIED TO COMPLAIN.

    Yours Sincerely,

    Everybody.

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    1. Re:Dear BPI, by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      NO STOP ABORT!

      Don't listen to them BPI. Please continue your research in the name of your artists. Please continue you send these letters to ISPs. Thanks to your efforts I just discovered a new torrent site.

      God bless the BPI and all you do for your artists by publishing a list of places we can pirate their material.

  6. Well, I guess... by Tastecicles · · Score: 2

    BT, Sky, Virgin Media, O2, EE and TalkTalk have just driven the final nail in Trust's casket. I've just called O2 and told them where to put their SIM contract.

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    1. Re:Well, I guess... by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

      It is a fundamental breach of contract not to deliver.

      Unfortunately, court orders can overrule contracts, sidestepping breach-of-contract in the process.

      Besides, which is worse: obeying a court order, or being shut down completely?

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  7. Remember that time... by FBeans · · Score: 3, Informative

    Remember that time where the internet was freedom? Where one could create a website, it was subject to law, like any other act. Remember when the providers of the internet buckled under the pressure from "the powers that be". Sites could be blocked, freedom quashed, because somebody didn't like the content of a site, because somebody thought it aided in crime and law breaking, despite not breaking any laws itself.

    When we start forcing ISPs to block sites, based on anything other than law, we open gates that will never be closed. One leads to more, more to many and eventually freedom on the internet will be dead.

    This is the key issue we are dealing with. It is getting overlooked because "piracy is bad". We have many other questions to ask: does blocking these sites even /help/ the problem of piracy? this suggests not! Is piracy really the problem, perhaps the intermediate companies between consumer and author's of content are to blame somewhat?

    Why do we have to constantly start making much larger problems while trying to fix smaller ones. Fix the music industry, the film industry, the E-book-monolopy that Amazon is building, fix the problem at the root. Provide consumers with a modern, suitable market in which they pay the author's of content for their products, for a price that represents the true worth of that product. Allow the consumer to have freedom with that product to use it in any device, in any form. Provide a good service, that is value-for-money, and people /will/ use it. We've seen it work before

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  8. Re:So it begins by StoneyMahoney · · Score: 2

    The Pirate Bay blockade is pathetic - if the best they can do is a poor King Canute imitation, I'm really not worried.

  9. Propping up failing business models by benjfowler · · Score: 2

    What amazes me, is that there isn't a bigger outcry about 'legacy' entertainment companies abusing the law to prop up failing business models.

    Given the triumph of neoliberalism since the collapse of communism, I'm surprised at how the notion of free markets is so selectively interpreted and enforced. It seems as though even if you are a clapped-out dinosaur of a company, if you're sufficiently large, you can bypass market discipline through lobbying, special pleading and black PR against one's political opponents.

    This is the moral issue -- how big, corrupt, dishonest dinosaurs like much of Big Media can get away with subverting the free market, and the political system itself to make their quarterly numbers.

  10. Re:Market forces by They'reComingToTakeM · · Score: 2

    Plusnet are owned by BT - which is why I left them.