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China's Stealth Fighter Flight Test Successful

New submitter vencs writes "China has successfully tested its second stealth fighter, a smaller, twin-engine jet that military analysts said could potentially allow it to one day fly missions from an aircraft carrier. Military analysts said the new jet's design suggested the People's Liberation Army might use it to arm and escort aircraft carriers like the Liaoning, which was officially deployed last month. Andrei Chang, editor-in-chief of Kanwa Asian Defense Monthly, said the new prototype appears to have borrowed features from the U.S. Air Force's twin-engine F-22 and U.S. Navy's single-engine F-35C."

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  1. Re:Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die? by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

    Oddly enough he didn't go so far as to actually hire any Chinese actors though.

  2. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by aliquis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is Slashdot.

    We don't steal technology and knowledge.

    Also how could they? Do they have direct access to the planes? Inspired by I suppose. But don't all?

    Anyway, what I wanted to say is that if you want to look at it that way everyone has stolen the technology from Germany.

  3. Re:Well, that's putting it one way by rtp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "the new prototype appears to have borrowed features from the U.S."

    It's very likely that China stole the technology for this fighter via cyber attacks to facilitate data exfiltration activities over the past decade, such as during the Titan Rain era. China is working diligently to position themselves as the next hyper-power on the planet. Stealth technology is critical for force projection where China seeks to dominate other countries, knowing the U.S. may enter a new Cold War and supply the middle-state pawns with surface-to-air missiles.

    The real zinger is going to be stealth drones launched from carriers in the near future.

    Regarding Titan Rain and Chinese cyber attacks on the USA:
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1098961,00.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Rain

  4. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by timeOday · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when you don't have to spend money on R&D because you've stolen the technology from the US.

    Whatever, fellah. I'm just trying to imagine some middle-aged army getting all indignant because the other side is shooting flaming arrows... "Cheaters! That's our idea, we did it first! It's for us to use against you, not the other way around! If you win and kill us all, it doesn't count!"

  5. In the mean time, we are moving to drones by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    While China is stealing western tech for stealth, we are moving towards automated drones to take on enemy aircraft. In fact, it is likely that the F-22 and F-35 will be the end of American fighters.

    Other than drones, we really need to focus on better defenses, and better protection for communications.

    That means lasers as well as rail guns. In addition, the DOD really needs to spend money on thorium reactors. They will need to provide tanks with high electrical output to do either a laser or a rail gun.

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    1. Re:In the mean time, we are moving to drones by timeOday · · Score: 2
      You are mistaken. There are lots of reasons UAV adoption by the US has skyrocketed only recently. Here is some assets you need to use them like we do:
      • 1) Total air dominance
      • 2) A satellite communications network
      • 3) A GPS constellation

      They're like cellphones - for all the end-user attention lavished on handsets, what really enabled them is the infrastructure.

  6. Re:It's just for the show by Eunuchswear · · Score: 5, Funny

    It might look like F-35, whether it actually has all the necessary components to be called the fifth-generation jet and whether they all work as advertised is another matter.

    So pretty much the same as the F-35 then...

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  7. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by BoogeyOfTheMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What we did to Germany wasn't so much stealing as it was pillaging.

  8. Oldest trick in the book! by presspass · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Did you see our new stealth fighter?"
    "No?"

    "Damn we're good!"

  9. Re:Klaus Fuchs by johanw · · Score: 2

    Because the "intellectual property" nonsense wasn't so ridiculous back then. Fortunately, when the Chinese will gain more power, those notions will probably get weaker again.

  10. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by Zemran · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Do they have direct access to the planes?"

    Only if they went along to the last arms symposium and bought some. You do realise that things like that are available to all? I went to some when I used to work for the military and there was everyone there buying everything they wanted. Even countries like Indonesia who wanted some fighters to shoot some of their more troublesome plebs but they had to buy 2 seaters and call them training aids because they were not allowed to buy anything called a fighter. As I was working with IT at the time I was wearing a badge that said "Information Services" and everyone kept moving away from me for some reason.

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  11. Re:USA is too expensive by Zemran · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually it is older radar with a longer wavelength that is better at detecting stealth planes. I was working with ATCs in Europe a few years back and it came up that on one island that I went to their radar could see the stealth planes as clear as any other plane because they still had old radar.

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  12. Re:It's just for the show by tokul · · Score: 2

    I found that the engines are probably those that were used in MIG-29.

    MIGs use Klimov RD-33s. Chinese J-17s and J-31 use Klimov RD-93. Different modification of a same engine. They used engine which was already verified and used live in other Chinese fighter plane. Chinese don't have MIG-29s.

  13. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by jittles · · Score: 2

    Dude. You used to work with the militarydoing "Information Services" and you've never heard of ITAR? Why don't you work for the military anymore, are you at Ft Leavenworth or what? They don't just let anyone buy that stuff, and there are serious consequences for breaking the rules. Selling a "Training Aid" to Indonesia that violates ITARS is a big no-no. I know someone who is a corporate lawyer for Northrup Grumman whose sole job is to find employees authorizing such sales and helping the federal government prosecute them. It carries a very stiff penalty.

  14. Re:It ain't expensive to build a stealth plane... by flyingsquid · · Score: 2

    Also how could they? Do they have direct access to the planes?

    They don't need direct access. The People's Liberation Army hacked into the networks of American defense contractors and stole blueprints and data http://cnsnews.com/news/article/chinese-hackers-stole-plans-americas-new-joint-strike-fighter-plane-says-investigations. If anyone had any questions who was behind these attacks, the fact that features of the F-22 and F-35 are now showing up in Chinese planes pretty much eliminates all doubt.