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Apple Hides Samsung Apology So It Can't Be Seen Without Scrolling
An anonymous reader writes "Apple today posted its second Samsung apology to its UK website, complying with requests by the UK Court of Appeal to say its original apology was inaccurate and link to a new statement. As users on Hacker News and Reddit point out, however, Apple modified its website recently to ensure the message is never displayed without visitors having to scroll down to the bottom first."
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They need to sit down and shut up. I think Apple is rapidly turning into a shitty company that litigates not innovates but this is stupid already. What are they going to demand next? Apple employees wear duncecaps?
It's posted and in full compliance. Try actually reading the court order.
As far as "having to scroll to see it", try getting a device with proper screen resolution:
http://imgur.com/gwdtH
- "Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem"
Look at profits made by the company. Apple is making more by far than any Android crap.
You DO realize Apple is the largest company in the United States, right?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443855804577601773524745182.html
- "Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem"
Yes, I'm saying that. Hardly Apple's fault most of the PC industry and LCD manufacturers are stuck in the year 2000.
1920x1080? Ha. When 10" tablets by Apple and Google both far surpass that then yes, that resolution is a joke.
- "Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem"
Except go to the US Apple website. Notice it's doing the same thing? The website has had the same fit to screen thing going on for over a year, has nothing to do with ridiculous conspiracy theories.
- "Scientia non habet inimicum nisp ignorantem"
And I have to scroll down one inch to see a VERY large-print paragraph that very clearly states what the court wants. I don't see the issue here. Sounds like Apple haters are just grasping at straws.
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Don't have to scroll to see it. http://imgur.com/gwdtH
The summary claims "Apple modified its website recently to ensure the message is never displayed without visitors having to scroll down to the bottom first."
The screenshot proves that to be incorrect. And with the widespread use of tablets and smartphones in portrait mode, it's hardly a fringe case.
And yet anyone that looks at the screenshot can see it's not a lie.
Which makes you the dishonest one.
All the judges in the UK really have no power over Apple. Not only Apple is an American company, but *THE* largest company in the world. The British judges are sort of like kindergarten teachers telling a 4-star general to do something. The general is just going to smile and play games at will with these British nannies, oops, I mean British judges. In all honesty, British judges are wasting everyones time trying to get Apple to do something. Except for the Apple American Lawyers who are having a field day with these judgee-wajjee hacks.
Calling people names doesn't help your case. And the chances of you remembering whether or not you scrolled on a page you visited a week ago are just as slim as they are for him.
Try this: You remember what you had for lunch last Wednesday because __________.
You make my point for me. I have no idea what I had for lunch last Wednesday. And that is about a million times more memorable than whether one page out of the hundreds that are visited each week needed a scroll to see the footer.
Heck have you ever seen one of those exercises where they show someone a film of a robbery in progress, and then a minute or so later ask them questions about it? People don't remember the most obvious things. But they will invent things to replace the things they don't remember. They don't remember that a guy was wearing a blue sweater, they say it was red. And then become convinced that their recollection was correct.
Chances of accurately recalling details of whether a web page needed scrolling, asked after a week, are so slim, it's laughable.
Unless there was a specific reason to look for the scrolling behaviour at that time, and take a note (mental or otherwise). Hence the question.
No, not that screenshot, the one already linked in the thread. Yours is a fake, and given the filename, the creator hasn't disguised his motives very well.
Yeah good fucking luck with that. Seeing as Apple is an AMERICAN company, if the UK cannot get control of its ridiculous and idiotic court decisions then the US will simply step in to rectify the situation politically or via trade sanctions.
From Apple's perspective, it is fighting Samsung over these same issues in a number of different countries. In some places it wins, some places it doesn't. For Apple to post a statement that purports to be from Apple stating that Samsung did not copy would be ridiculous, because it's already won judgments in other jurisdictions that say Samsung did copy. People who follow this understand that there are going to be different results in different courts, but the general public (who are the primary audience for Apple's home page) don't understand that. All they see is Apple contradicting itself. They don't realize that a judge is putting words in Apple's corporate mouth. It's judicial ventriloquism, with a judge pulling on strings to make the public believe that Apple is saying something it's not. This alone, regardless of what company or individual we're talking about, is disturbing. What else can a judge force you to say? Who else do they control in this manner? The BBC? The Prime Minister?
The judges' requirement seems at best very juvenile to me (not that either Apple and Samsung have been very mature in these court cases... but from a powdered wig-wearing British judge you'd expect some maturity). It's like asking a 5 year old to apologize to another 5 year old. You'll never get a real apology, you're not changing anything, and the rest of the 5 year olds are sitting there rolling their eyes. What Apple should have done was post a statement as directed but make it absolutely clear that:
By order of the court Apple is required to say "_______." despite the fact that courts in other countries have found that statement to be false. However, in deference to the court we are posting the statement as required and are eager to get back to doing what we do best: making great products for you (and hope that other companies not named Samsung will not offer you inferior attempts at copies of those products).
Comply with the letter of the law, but make it absolutely clear that these are not your words. Let the people know their judges are looking to deceive them.
No, what they did was include code that automatically resizes the hero shot to take up all the available space. This is hardly an unheard of design strategy. They are emphasising their newly launched product. Yes, it has the side-effect of pushing the notice below the fold, but it also pushes other non-essential content like the footer links below the fold as well. The assumption of malice is unwarranted, and spinning this as "they deliberately wrote code to hide it" is silly. There's a clear purpose for that code - to emphasise their new product. You'll note that code also runs on their website in other countries where the notice isn't present.
I'm pretty sure their homepage qualifies.
Why? Scrolling is the norm on the web and he didn't specify a position. Why are people suddenly shocked that you might have to scroll to see something? Why are people suddenly convinced that if it's not above the fold it's invisible? You managed to find my comment alright didn't you?
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The judges/juries in some cases decided that Samsung blatantly copied Apple. The judges/juries in some cases decided that Samsung did not blatantly copy Apple. Should Apple create versions of their website to suit all the cases? "If you live in a country where the judge doesn't like Apple, click here." It's pretty obvious that Apple was the victim of Samsung making a concerted effort to copy their industry-leading product. And given Apple's history of losing in court when Microsoft stole their GUI design and even their code for QuickTime, Apple has a right to see courts as a hostile environment that will impact their bottom line. Now some of the specific examples of copyright infringement in these court cases were pretty stupid -- since when has there ever been a non-rectangular smartphone -- but the entire battle over software patents hinges on the commonly-held belief that copyrights on technology are holding back the industry as a whole. I'm not sure I buy that entirely. If you invent something, TRULY invent something new and practical, then you should be able to profit from that invention. A lot of these lawsuits seem frivolous to me. But Apple is right to thumb their nose at judgements that go against them when Samsung is clearly profiting from copying Apple's designs.
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By "quite close to", I think you still mean behind... So OSX is still the biggest but you have trouble accepting reality.
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Apple still has a PE ratio of 13.06; Google has a PE ratio of 21.55. Apple has a debt to equity ratio of 0; Google has a debt to equity ratio of ~.09.
Apple sells numerous devices to happy customers; Google makes money by violating user privacy for the benefit of its customers, the advertisers.
Which company is the tremendously overvalued one, again?