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Secession Petitions Flood White House Website

First time accepted submitter RNLockwood writes "Political.com reports that several petitions to secede from the Union have been created at the White House site, We The People, for many states; all since Obama's re-election. Texas and Louisiana lead the list with Texas needing only 7,000 more signatures to qualify for a White House response, probably less now as more Americans have become aware of the petitions. It would be interesting to see a comparison done of these petitions and the Post Election Racist Tweets Map."

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  1. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

    They did pick an actual conservative. Obama. The guy is to the right on Nixon and Reagan on many issues.

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  2. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Informative

    It would save us a shitload of tax money and we would no longer have to worry about the American taliban getting their voice in our laws.

    http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2012/09/who-receives-the-disproportionate-share-of-government-spending.html

  3. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by lysdexia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hell yes. I grew up with older relatives who equated Richard Nixon with Atilla the Hun. The stuff that got him impeached would barely be reported on mainstream news these days. And we almost had Romney/Obama care back in the 70's. Do a google search for Nixon Permenente and lose your mind.

  4. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is bad is America had no left wing candidate at all.

    That's not true at all - the Green Party fielded a genuinely left-leaning candidate - Jill Stein
    I quite like her.

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  5. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Clinton was the most warlike president of all since Johnson. At least until Bush Jr went crazy.

    Definitely not:

    Richard Nixon: Elected on a secret plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968, he expanded it into Laos and Cambodia, two countries who's only crime was being next to Vietnam.

    Gerald Ford: Actually made peace in Vietnam. He's not a contender for the "most warlike".

    Jimmy Carter: A few minor things, such as trying to rescue the hostages. Also not a contender.

    Ronald Reagan: Invaded Grenada, Honduras, ordered various operations against Libya, was on the outskirts of the Iran-Iraq War (supplying weapons to both sides and using US ships to protect Kuwaiti oil tankers).

    George H.W. Bush: First Gulf War. Several smaller operations in Panama, Hondurus, and Liberia.

    Bill Clinton: Enforcing the no-fly zone in Iraq, air operations in former Yugoslavia, missile strikes on Al Qaida.

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  6. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by artor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You just backed it up for him. According to the site that you yourself linked there is only one "red" state that pays more in taxes than it gets in federal spending: Texas.

    Here's a quick summary, from your own link, of which states support the nation, sorted by the amount they give in excess of the amount they receive:

    California: $47B
    New Jersey: $32B
    New York: $24B
    Illinois: $19B
    Connecticut: $10B
    Texas: $10B
    Minnesota: $9B
    Massachusetts: $8B
    Nevada: $6B
    Colorado: $5B
    Michigan: $3B
    Washington: $3B
    Wisconsin $3B
    New Hampshire: $2B
    Delaware: $1.5B
    Oregon: $1B
    Florida: $0.5B

    That list includes big states, small states, densely populated states, sparse states, coastal states, landlocked states, and so on. The only common thread is that they're all liberal, except Texas. And if we're being honest, Texas only makes the list because of the big liberal cities like Houston that drive their economy.

    The fact is that the red states that bitch the most about taxes are also the ones who benefit the most from them. Not unlike their fervently anti-gay congressmen who get caught soliciting sex in the men's room.

  7. Re:If there was a Bad at Math Map... by disambiguated · · Score: 5, Informative

    This looks like a good place to post this. I took the data from this economist article and broke it down by red vs. blue state according to this map. This is what I found:

    * There were 20 surplus states and 30 deficit states.
    * Of the 24 states that voted for Romney, 4 of them had a surplus.
    * Of the 26 states that voted for Obama, 16 of them had a surplus.
    * Together, the blue states had a net surplus of 2.57 trillion, the red states had a net deficit of 1.50 trillion.
    * The average blue state had a surplus of 98.8 billion; the average red state had a deficit of 63.0 billion.
    * Four blue states (New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and Minnesota) each had a surplus greater than all the red states with a surplus combined.