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Anonymous Attacks Israeli Websites In Response To IDF Operation In Gaza
An anonymous reader writes "On Thursday, Anonymous reported that it took down close to 40 Israeli government and security establishment websites, although the single website that they presented as having been attacked belonged to a security and cleaning services company. The report came after Likud MK Danny Danon announced earlier in the week that his website had been taken down by a group calling itself TeaM KuWaiT HaCkErS. Danon's website had been hosting an online petition calling for the Israeli government to cut off the supply of electricity going from Israel to Gaza. " A report at Russia Today puts the number at "hundreds" of sites, instead.
Slashdot seems to love reporting this recurring story, I guess because you can write it with mad-libs...
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You notice that the rocket attacks on Israel increased as the chances of Assad winning in Syria decreased. Almost like someone wanted to get Syria off the front page.
Undetectable Steganography? Yep, there's an app fo
http://anonnews.org/press/item/1885/
Well then, I suggest we take this up with Anonymous' executive committee on foreign relations.
Have gnu, will travel.
I don't think it's falsified...I think the issue is that Anonymous is not a singular, totally cohesive group. I absolutely think there are parts of Anonymous who are that reckless that they'd poke at Israel over this. For their sake, I hope they don't accomplish much; Israel has exactly *no* sense of humor when it comes to their own national security. There comes a time when a cyber action can provoke a kinetic response, and the Israelis won't be hampered by the need for search warrants, due process, etc.
For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
Anonymous are a bunch of losers. They just want to revel in the limelight and taking the Palestinian side against Israel happens to be cool among leftists, anarchists, and other spoiled children with too much time and money and not enough wisdom.
The best approach to anonymous is to ignore them. If they don't get the attention they seek, they'll go back to wanking off to online porn in their moms' basements.
I will give you a few simple ways to know whether your point on view on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is incorrect:
I'll illustrate with an example:
I don't know how to solve the problem in the region, but it's a problem that was deliberately created by creating the nation of Israel smack dab in the middle of everyone that hated them and everyone that they hated.
Deliberately by whom? Also, the great opposition to the Zionist movement started a (relatively) long time after Jews started immigrating to (then) Palestine.
It's past time to do something.
Right. Because, obviously, there is a solution. You can't think of one, but there must be something that can be done that is better than what is currently being done, right? I mean, none of the leaders could think of anything, and not one "expert" on the subject offers anything that has not been tried before and failed, but drinkypoo says that something can be done, so it must be true.
It's too late to turn back the clock, which is unfortunate, because not doing it in the first place would clearly have been the best solution.
Really? My mother's mother, and her brother and sisters, that left Germany between 1930 and 1936, beg to differ.
Israel's blockade of the strip is probably illegal,
International law seems to disagree with you on that point.
and the only people who can stop them won't because they have too much to gain by maintaining the status quo. Keeping that region in a condition of endless war keeps all of those people busy.
The only people I can think of who can stop this without causing even more bloodshed are Hamas leadership (proof: The west bank's leaders decided to mind their own business, and are experiencing both more freedom and more economic prosperity, despite the fact that, unlike the Gaza strip, Israel still occupies that region). While I suspect that the motives you claim for why they do that are, more or less, correct, I somehow doubt that's who you meant.
Shachar
Yeah, and I wish Israel would end its blockade, give the Palestinians a right to statehood, evacuate the settlements, and respect Palestinian borders so the Palestinians didn't have to fight for their own self-determination. While Israel continues its policies, Palestine will continue to be a shithole of poverty with people who can't legitimately complain to anyone because they don't have a state and the UN doesn't recognize them. Israel reaps what it sows.
we're waiting, but its still naptime.
as soon as he wakes up and has his milk, he'll call us back.
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I wouldn't mind joining the "good guys". Unfortunately, there aren't any "good guys" over there. The smart ones have moved on, to places such as Canada, or the United States, and have made lives for themselves. The good ones are dead. (only the good die young) All that's left on either side are the dumb evil bastards.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Yes. You've been their and spoken to people - on both sides.
You HAVE to ask yourself this: "From what source do I get my information, and how many levels of mediation are between me and the original source".
You will find that your experience and understanding are built upon layers of unproven trust.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
I'm sorry. There is a very clear villain and I am not wrong. The villain is extremist religionists on ALL sides who (to paraphrase Christopher Hitchens, who made this argument far better than I ever could) poison the dialogue with their absolutist demands which they back up using the force of their chosen celestial sky wizard and his holy books.
The vast vast vast majority of people on both sides favor a two state solution. the US wants this too, as does virtually everybody else. its the obvious answer. why dosen't it happen?
because of people who think that whose first accountability is to some god, not their fellow man.
they are the villians in this drama. no ands, ifs, or buts.
Nice. Now let's 'pretend' that in a given period of years, there is relative peace with no rockets fired, then one side fires indiscriminately into the other. Let's call them the aggressors. Then the non-aggressors fire superior (and better-targeted) rockets into strategic locations only. But you're right, the moral high ground rests solely with the aggressors.
The British and the Americans did not forcibly set up a new Israel, the Israelis did that all by themselves. What really cemented their country was beating 5 Arab armies. After that, there was no stopping them. And Truman had to be dragged into supporting an Israel in the U.N. Also, Russia continued their anti-Jewish policies and many Jews left Russia for Israel. And they were well-educated Jews, that made for a much stronger Israel.
After the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was made a Gruppen-Fuhrer in Hilter's Reich, the Arabs and Palestinians could kiss any support for their side goodbye.
"Yes. You've been their and spoken to people - on both sides."
Yes, I have. You are being sarcastic, of course. You assume that I've never seen any of the mid-east. You assume that I get all my information from one or another biased big-media news source. But, I HAVE been over there. Beruit City was the most exciting and/or dangerous place that I have ever seen, with multiple armies and armed groups maneuvering in the countryside, as well as in the city. I was there before the Marines arrived to safeguard the remainder of the civilians.
Don't assume anything, my friend.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Didn't Israel assassinate Palestinian leader just before a ceasefire was about to be brokered...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/opinion/israels-shortsighted-assassination.html?_r=0
The Pals gained a lot of worldwide sympathy with those moronic flotillas. And, here they squander much of that sympathy by attacking Israel in some hopeless gamble.
No they don't. The entire islamic world has larger levels of anti-Semitism than Germany had in the 1930s (not that other kinds of racism are far behind), and the issue is simple : the more attention hamas captures, the more this anti-Semitism will play in politics in other muslim countries.
The more attention hamas grabs, using any and all means, including their favorite tactic of getting their neighbours' children killed, the more successful they're likely to become.
Their stated purpose is to bring back traditional islamic values, and they explicitly mention including eternal war (one translation "jihad") with, well, with everyone else. Another stated purpose of Hamas is to kill every Jew in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_antisemitism#Twentieth_century
Just three examples which took me like 5 seconds to find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_pogrom_of_April_1920
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_riots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
So yeah. Nice try but fuck you.
The vast vast vast majority of people on both sides favor a two state solution. the US wants this too, as does virtually everybody else. its the obvious answer. why dosen't it happen?
Where do you get the idea that Palestinians want a two state solution ? They HAVE a two state solution in Gaza, and yet they still attack. So this is clearly not what they want.
Of course, if you look at the stated aims of the Palestinian state, here on wikipedia one of their stated aims is to kill every last Jew walking this earth. Various reasons are given, from outright conspiracy theories, to stating (with a direct and correct quote from islamic holy texts I might add) that allah not just wants every Jew eliminated, but will actively help accomplish that.
If you assume that hamas is indeed religious, there is no solution to this conflict short of the elimination of either side.
Israel is aiming at weapon caches and missle emplacements. How is that not defense?
Why not? The Mufti of Jerusalem ('Palestinian' leader) was allied with the Nazis and had plans in place to give up the middle eastern Jews for extermination.
In both cases the aggressor was forced to give up land after starting, then losing a war. It is exactly the same issue.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Another stated purpose of Hamas is to kill every Jew in the world.
and fwiw, hardcore muslims also have no tolerance for christians. both reject mohammed (piss be upon him) and therefore are subhuman.
you think that if you let the islamists get rid of all the jews, they'll stop and be happy?
I seriously hope people are not that stupid.
islam hates all that don't fully agree with them. please, world, realize this and that this IS a world-level war.
its being fought in the ME but it won't end there.
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Something to think about, since it appears you haven't: and what if an Assad attack against Israel pulls in Egypt and throws all the Palestinians into full all out war mode. Hmmmm?
All of those combined military forces would not be able to do much to Israel. Palestine has been at nearly a full state of war for years already, so it's not like they can do more than the random rockets they already fire into Israel every day. Egypt is hurting and if they put too much military into fighting Egypt they will be toast from internal riots.
Iran is the only one with much of a military force, but guess what would be a big old christmas present to Israel? A first strike from Iran to give Israel a reason to strike ANYWHERE within Iran using ANY weapon. Every nuclear plant in Iran is a smoldering pile of rubble within one hour of an attack from Iran on Israel directly.
That also is true for Egypt and Palestine too you know. If either of them declare "war" war, then Israel gets to take the gloves off instead of having to worry about faked videos of injured people in Palestine.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I love how Hamas can arbitrarily lob rockets into Israel and when Israel defends itself the (almost) entire world cries foul. Hamas started firing the rockets in this, because Israel killed a Hamas commander who had orchestrated the bombing of several Israeli public areas, killing innocent people. You think if you create the most horrific retaliation this shit will end right then? Wanna BET? How the Palestinian terrorists get a pass all the time is beyond me. As far as I can see both sides are not beyond blame, but in every case Hamas starts the hot conflicts. You Arab fanbois are ridiculous. Israel will NEVER stop defending itself. All you do is dump more innocent Arab lives into the fire.
Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
So, Hamas fires 200 rockets into Israel. Israel retaliates and "anonymous" cyberattcks their web sites. Yes, you are the villian if you do something about someone shooting rockets into your city.
Every time an issues likes this comes up liberals love to paint Israel as the villian, they swear they are not anti-semetic and they NEVER answer the question what they would do if someone fired rockets into their home town.
I never see American critiques turning over their land to a Native American foundation and moving to Europe. Ditto for Europeans, they have all lived on each others land ( after slaughtering for it ) for time immoralial. Lets not remind them of how Muslims are treated in their countries either.
Because Israel is a secular democracy. Despite the noise of Jewish religious extremists, their positions are not widely shared in Israel.
Because Israel's basic laws do not contain a call to genocide the way the Hamas charter quotes religious texts calling for the killing of Jews.
Yes. The West and everyone else should let Israel defend itself without having to worry about outside interference and without anti-Israel rhetoric being spewed at the UN and elsewhere.
Mossad is very good at what it does. As with the current action in Gaza, the idea to be "communicated" is that, if you attempt to hurt us, we will hurt you more than you can imagine. Usually, people get the message. Those who don't usually end up dead.
Cheers,
Dave
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
Ben
The UN will never support Israel, because all the Islamic (and often the ex-Communist) states form a voting bloc. Check out this YouTube video, it explains a lot of what goes on in the (now thoroughly corrupted) UN, and why the UN wanted to 'protect religion from criticism) recently - which meant removing Free Speech rights (to criticize the insanity of religion, especially Islam:
Understanding UN Bias Against Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Mupoo1At8
Wow, where do you live? In New Zealand we don't routinely arm our police, although they do carry firearms secured in the boot of their vehicles. If a youth threatens a cop with a weapon they'll be tasered if that is on hand ir shot if a taser is not available. Youths on the drug P have been carrying golf clubs smashing things up and after warnings from cops they have been shot and killed. If you live in a country even more passive than New Zealand I'd be interested to know.
However, you are missing the real point of this thread. Israel is taking great pains to avoiding killing children,. They have aborted numerous airstrikes (at the cost of hundreds of thousands of shekels) at least according to the IDF YouTube page; they also spend millions inventing the Delilah missile that is designed with an abort option to prevent civilian casualties; they have also sent out 12,000 texts and dropped leaflets to tell civilians to move away from rocket storage facilities.
Hamas, on the other hand cynically launches rockets from house yards and schools - hoping to make 'inoluntary matyrs' of the inhabitants when the Israelis try get the launchers.
So, given that Israel tries to preserve life (of both Israeli and Arab civilians) and Hamas tries to destroy it (of both Israeli and Arab civilians) it should be pretty clear to any unbiased observer who is decent and who is not. Unfortunately, many people are not unbiased and report lies as facts. eg. they slurp up all of Hamas' propaganda due to their misplace hatred of Israel. Example of Hamas lying (as it often does):
Hamas' Claims: True or False?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWSuWFbiYGM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl0lMjI1d5c
Hamas lies routinely, believing falsehoods are permitted by the Islamic principle of Taqiyyah ('religious dissimulation => blatant lying):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
"Yes. You've been their and spoken to people - on both sides."
Yes, I have. You are being sarcastic, of course. You assume that I've never seen any of the mid-east. You assume that I get all my information from one or another biased big-media news source. But, I HAVE been over there. Beruit City was the most exciting and/or dangerous place that I have ever seen, with multiple armies and armed groups maneuvering in the countryside, as well as in the city. I was there before the Marines arrived to safeguard the remainder of the civilians.
Don't assume anything, my friend.
Well I haven't been to Gaza or Israel for about 8 months, so perhaps this is out of date, however I know your original statement
Unfortunately, there aren't any "good guys" over there.
is a load of crap. There's plenty of people trying to live nice normal lives in Israel, and live in fear of Hamas rockets landing on them every day. It's a terrible situation to be in.
On the other side of the fence (literally), there's plenty of people trying to live nice normal lives in Gaza, and live in fear of Israeli warplanes bombing them. Several of them spy for Israel, that's how the IDF manage to get so many targets. If they're caught, they're killed.
Given the mismatch in the power of each side, and the quality of housing, and the fact one side is governed by a terrorist organisation, means it's a lot more dangerous to live in Gaza than live in Ashkelon.
Some people in Israel near the border are bugging out, fleeing their homes to go to the north until things quieten down again. I don't blame them. A friend in Jerusalem was worried enough when the rocket landed nearby.
They're lucky to have that option, both having the money to escape, but also the freedom to move more than 30 miles from where they're born. On the whole though, they can't think it's that bad living near Gaza as there's little stopping them moving north (or south).
People in Gaza don't have that choice. I have a magic western passport and GPO card, it enables me to pass through Erez into Israel more-or-less at will. People in the West Bank can move a little, and even go abroad, but people born in Gaza - on the whole - don't have the ability to leave. 99.999% of them are born, live, and die in an area 1/10th the size of Rhode Island, but 150% the population. They have to grow their food, power their houses, teach their kids, and bury their dead in that slab of land.
You are forgetting the 7000 rockets so far this year. The Israelis got an opportunity to take this guy out and they did.
The other thing you, and many other Slashdotters, also don't understand that all the negotiations were for a 'ceasefire', not a permanent peace treaty. You see, Hamas seeks a ceasefire ('hudna' in Arabic) whenever they are weak. Islam permits such ceasefires to be made with hated enemies to build up strength until the next attack. If Hamas was in a position of strength they do not have to offer hudna to the Israelis.
If Hamas agreed to a peace treaty then Israel would grant it immediately. The thing is, Hamas do not want peace, only ceasefires to build strength. Hamas don't think permanent peace is an option, they believe they have "Allah on their side" and will eventually bring the Caliphate to the entire World (starting with Israel). Now i'm not saying this is logical, but that is how Hamas (and other violent Islamofascist theocracies) thinks.