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Newly Released Einstein Brain Photos Hint At the Anatomy of Genius

scibri writes "Photographs of Einstein's brain taken shortly after his death, but never before analysed in detail, have now revealed that it had several unusual features, providing tantalizing clues about the neural basis of his extraordinary mental abilities. The most striking observation was 'the complexity and pattern of convolutions on certain parts of Einstein's cerebral cortex,' especially in the prefrontal cortex, and also parietal lobes and visual cortex. The prefrontal cortex is important for the kind of abstract thinking that Einstein would have needed for his famous thought experiments on the nature of space and time, such as imagining riding alongside a beam of light. The unusually complex pattern of convolutions there probably gave the region a larger-than-normal surface area, which may have contributed to his remarkable abilities."

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  1. Stop deifying this guy by loufoque · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously.
    He was just a scientist among many others.

    1. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Dupple · · Score: 1

      Might also explain his obstanance regarding the cosmological constant which he didn't abandon until observing red shif. Might not. I'm uncertain...

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    2. Re:Stop deifying this guy by martijn+hoekstra · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. He was just a scientist among many others.

      It is entirely possible that special relativity would have been formulated by someone else - with the problems with EM speed of light and reference frames, it could be said to have been in the air, so to say. That also goes for the photo-electric effect. General relativity was something else though, it was new, it was brilliant, and it completely shifted the way we think about the universe. He might not have been as great as Newton, but he's up there with the Very Select Few.

    3. Re:Stop deifying this guy by Johann+Lau · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How is noticing he was rather smart deifying him? Personally, I never fully understood any of the stuff in his actual field of work, but always rather enjoyed stuff like letters or essays he wrote. I would never have heard of those however if he hadn't also been such a famous physicist. So I'm not sure what's there to moan about.. what's your angle? That nobody will bother to take a photo of your brain when you die?

    4. Re:Stop deifying this guy by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Studying is brain is being used to define traits that make humans smart.
      How is that anything short of deification?

      No, it's the opposite of that. We're trying to figure out why he could make leaps others couldn't... there's nothing mystical about it. If we had other similarly interesting brains we'd study them too.

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    5. Re:Stop deifying this guy by fwarren · · Score: 1

      Remember. He did his best work with his ex-wife. There is the possibility that as a patent clerk, it was Einstein and his wife that worked on the theory of relativity.

      After the divorce, he never did anything that matched the quality of that work. Much like George Lucas with Ex, Marcia Lucas.

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    6. Re:Stop deifying this guy by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      WTF? Yes, Einstein is considered to have been very smart by many. However:

      (transitive) To make a god of (something or someone).
      (transitive) To treat as worthy of worship; to regard as a deity.

      Saying "that person was really smart" isn't the same as saying "that person is a deity", it's nowhere near. Also, the brain is studied for many reasons, one of which is "why not?".

      In summary, I don't even know what you just said.

    7. Re:Stop deifying this guy by neonKow · · Score: 1

      Nobody's deifying him. Einstein was an extremely gifted scientist and mathematician, the same way Michael Phelps is a gifted athlete. Neither are flawless or religious icons, but their abilities do make them stand out far beyond average human beings and we like to study how they got that way.

    8. Re: Stop deifying this guy by muon-catalyzed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      cosmological constant which he didn't abandon
      Maybe this is because Einstein studied equations, he needed that constant so the model would hold mathematically, his discoveries might have been simply observations he saw in those formulas, you can move and swap variables left right in the energy equations to get exciting and unexpected relationships that involve time, mass velocity and energy.

    9. Re:Stop deifying this guy by loufoque · · Score: 1

      There is the difference between being smart and being the reference of what smart is.

    10. Re:Stop deifying this guy by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Yes, just your average run-of-the-mill scientist... ...one who managed to answer a hell of a lot more questions than others did...and create even more.

      There are several hundreds scientists which made major contributions to science. None of them were average, but that doesn't make Einstein that extraordinary and godlike.

    11. Re:Stop deifying this guy by loufoque · · Score: 1

      To develop this further, Einstein is mostly used today as a symbol and an icon used to represent "the bright scientist".
      But like most icons, posthumous studies are making him larger than life.

    12. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Might also explain his obstanance regarding the cosmological constant which he didn't abandon until observing red shif. Might not. I'm uncertain...

      Keep in mind that when he introduced the cosmological constant everyone still thought that our galaxy was the only thing in the universe. Hubble figured out that that was wrong about a decade later (and half a decade before noting the correlation between red shift and distance).

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    13. Re:Stop deifying this guy by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      Who said he is "the" reference? Did I miss something? Also, even if you were right; that difference isn't deification. Even if all IQ tests were made out relative to Einstein (which they're not), or if Einstein's views were regularly brought up in conversation to determine if something is smart or not (which they're not), yeah, that'd *still* not be deification. I agree that looking at his brain in isolation is an exercise in being silly, but I don't see how Einstein is being "deified" here, at all. It's kinda funny too, considering that Einstein himself was rather humble. If he would shrug this off with a friendly, confused smile, why don't you?

    14. Re:Stop deifying this guy by TheLetterZ · · Score: 1

      Seriously. He was just a scientist among many others.

      What a bunch of baloney. He was the forefather of modern physics, and a groundbreaking one as well. This ranks him up alongside with Newton. He was *not* just a scientist among many others, and every single piece of modern physics is based upon the foundation he made. Pleas think before you post.

    15. Re:Stop deifying this guy by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Studying is brain is being used to define traits that make humans smart.
      How is that anything short of deification?

      No, it's the opposite of that. We're trying to figure out why he could make leaps others couldn't... there's nothing mystical about it. If we had other similarly interesting brains we'd study them too.

      That's the point. Others have similar capabilities, Einstein is being picked pretty randomly. Yes he was the one to discover general relativity, but if he hadn't someone else (or a couple of people) would have done it, perhaps more gradually. It would be better to select a group of the wisest or most intelligent beings and investigate them, rather than hunt peculiarities of cerebral geometries, even then I would question the usefulness of the study.

      It's like investigating Neil Armstrongs feet.

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    16. Re:Stop deifying this guy by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, it's the opposite of that. We're trying to figure out why he could make leaps others couldn't... there's nothing mystical about it. If we had other similarly interesting brains we'd study them too.

      That's the point. Others have similar capabilities, Einstein is being picked pretty randomly

      No, you don't get to say "that's the point" while you're missing the point. Einstein was a genius and we have information about his brain. If any other geniuses want to donate their brains I'm sure we'll want to look at those too. Sadly, no one will ever be interested in yours on that basis.

      It's like investigating Neil Armstrongs feet.

      O fuck, I have been trolled. That, or I've been wasting my time talking to someone about as intelligent as an Elizabot.

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    17. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Dupple · · Score: 1

      Thanks Muon and Black. That's some insightful stuff I hadn't fully considered. Sadly no mod points

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    18. Re:Stop deifying this guy by loufoque · · Score: 3, Insightful

      if Einstein's views were regularly brought up in conversation to determine if something is smart or not (which they're not), yeah, that'd *still* not be deification

      Using Einstein's brain as a metric is nothing short of religion, for the simple purpose that a single man can not be used to define what intelligence is. There isn't an even an objective answer to that.

    19. Re:Stop deifying this guy by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Troll

      No you're not; Neil Armstrongs feet refers to not looking at the entire picture

      Thinking is done primarily with the brain, confirmed by scan. Walking is not done primarily with the feet. Paralyzed from the neck down, brain still works. Paralyzed from the feet up, can't walk. Keep trying, you'll get it never.

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    20. Re:Stop deifying this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WRONG. In some cases, structural differences in brains can have huge cognitive effects. Look up Kim Peek. The "science" that you are presumably referring to (phrenology) was very different and using it to argue that brain structure NEVER affects cognitive ability is just dumb. Also, phrenology was based on the idea of brain SIZE, when this study looks at something completely different. You conflating the two different types of studies shows that you really have no idea what you're talking about.

    21. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Xacid · · Score: 1

      Never heard this before but not refuting it. Was it really the hubble that changed that perspective?

    22. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, "The Hubble". Edwin Hubble to be precise. His discoveries were so important that even decades after his death, NASA named a space telescope after him.

    23. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Xacid · · Score: 1

      Awesome, thanks a bunch. Also thanks for not being a jerk in regards to my ignorance. There's hope yet! :)

    24. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's the relevant bit on Wikipedia:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Hubble#The_universe_goes_beyond_the_Milky_Way_galaxy

      It's hard to imagine how different the universe must have seemed to them before that.

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    25. Re: Stop deifying this guy by Xacid · · Score: 1

      I was thinking that too. It just never occurred to me where that turning point in perspective would have been, but always neat to know.

    26. Re:Stop deifying this guy by khallow · · Score: 1

      General relativity follows fairly straightforward from special relativity and the Reimannian structure on manifolds (it's basically the very similar Minkowski structure and an optimization problem on that manifold). It may take a "very select few" to grok that, but that still ends being a lot of people.

      As for Newton, odds are good that he wasn't that special either. He had the founder advantage. There was a lot of new data to explain and not much in the way of competition for doing the explaining.

    27. Re:Stop deifying this guy by khallow · · Score: 1
      If Neil Armstrong's feet were responsible for say, Neil Armstrong walking on the Moon, then they'd be very interesting to observe. Instead, it was the massive engineering effort of the Apollo program that was responsible for Armstrong walking on the Moon. For Einstein, it was his brain responsible which was responsible for his intelligence and his research efforts.

      I still think that relativity, is relative

      Hence, the name.

      * Holographic information storage in two dimensions and multi-dimensional folding, yada yada yada

      Now, if you could show that this holographic information storage stores in two dimensions in any number of dimensions, then you'd have something. Otherwise it's just a peculiar initial condition of our universe.

    28. Re:Stop deifying this guy by kmoser · · Score: 1

      The bigger question: was he born with those unusual features of his brain, or did they appear because of the nature of the things he used his brain for?

    29. Re:Stop deifying this guy by martijn+hoekstra · · Score: 1

      As for Newton, odds are good that he wasn't that special either. He had the founder advantage. There was a lot of new data to explain and not much in the way of competition for doing the explaining.

      I don't think that the fact calculus hadn't been invented, and he was there to invent it - or, if you're take the extreme view he stole it from Leibniz, that he had the opportunity to use a new kind of math, at the time completely unfamiliar to the scientific world - when he was 24 has been an advantage in developing a theory of motion and developing a theory of gravity. If you do think so your argument is quite valid, I - and a whole lot of other people - just disagree with the premise.

    30. Re:Stop deifying this guy by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

      Seriously. He was just a scientist among many others.

      Right. So how many other great scientists share this "unusually complex pattern" of the brain. Perhaps we should take more brain scans of dead scientists to see if this is contributing factor to brialliant insight.

    31. Re: Stop deifying this guy by sg_oneill · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that when he introduced the cosmological constant everyone still thought that our galaxy was the only thing in the universe. Hubble figured out that that was wrong about a decade later (and half a decade before noting the correlation between red shift and distance).

      Ya know I was about to tear you a new one, and point out that at the very least andromeda and the whirlpool galaxy where known about in the 1700s.

      Except holy crap your right! It seems there was a huge debate in astronomy over exactly this in the 1920s with most astronomers being unwilling to accept the distances needed for the multiple galaxy hypothesis. It wasnt until hubble & co's work with redshifts that the utterly mindboggling distances that really where in the universe, became hard to contest....

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    32. Re:Stop deifying this guy by surd1618 · · Score: 1

      In his youth, Einstein caught up to the forefront of basically every field of physics, and made substantial contributions to several of the most intractable problems of the time. Nothing about his fame was random.

    33. Re: Stop deifying this guy by dgharmon · · Score: 1

      Might also explain his obstanance regarding the cosmological constant which he didn't abandon until observing red shif. Might not. I'm uncertain...

      The equations only worked for an expanding universe, as the prevailing wisdom at that time that the universe was static, Einstein inserted a 'cosmological constant'. Later on he said this was the biggest blunder of his career.

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    34. Re:Stop deifying this guy by khallow · · Score: 1

      They had been kicking around for thirty years by the time of Einstein's discovery of special relativity. I guess I'll just have to disagree.

    35. Re:Stop deifying this guy by khallow · · Score: 1

      That sounds really weak to me. It's not like calculus or the laws of motion could have been different, if someone else had discovered them.

  2. That's all well and good but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's all well and good but what did his brain actually taste like?

    1. Re:That's all well and good but.. by gshegosh · · Score: 1

      Taste is not important. Does Einstein's brain run Linux? ;-)

    2. Re:That's all well and good but.. by antdude · · Score: 2

      It probably tastes like chickens. Wait, are you a zombie? :P

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  3. No control group by lawpoop · · Score: 2

    This is interesting, but will this tell us if his brain is truly different from any other physicist, mathematician? Before we go making any pronouncements, I think we should do a little more research into people of his profession.

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    1. Re:No control group by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, some kind of quantification is definitely missing. How unusual? How unusual among people of the same profession? How common are major physics discoveries among people who don't share such features (i.e., is it a necessary feature?). Attempting to draw conclusions about complex cognitive functions from small-n measurements of a handful of macroscopic features feels a little bit like phrenology.

  4. or maybe genius moulds anatomy by johnrpenner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    we are quick to attribute a causal relationship: a certain anatomy causes genius; but this is, strictly speaking, an interpretation. we can not dismiss out of hand that a sense of genius works into a given environment, and moulds and forms the brain from habits that result from genius, rather than genius resulting from habits — the brain the enscribed result of the history of your thinking — the history of your perception of thoughts and mental effort (or lack thereof).

    2cents from sunny and cold toronto island
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    1. Re:or maybe genius moulds anatomy by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Basically, TFA is correlating cortex surface area (or volume) with intelligence. While intuitively appealing, I'm unsure if this has been subject to any sort of real analysis. Anybody out there with some data?

      Dr. Frankenstein?

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    2. Re:or maybe genius moulds anatomy by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      I have a particularly crenulated scrotal sack and I'm a genius when thinking with that.

    3. Re:or maybe genius moulds anatomy by ozydingo · · Score: 1
      I can't really tell if the authors were in fact more careful than this article suggests, but the following demonstrates your point quite clearly:

      Falk and her colleagues also noticed an unusual feature in the right somatosensory cortex, which receives sensory information from the body. In this part of Einstein’s brain, the region corresponding to the left hand is expanded, and the researchers suggest that this may have contributed to his accomplished violin playing.

      It is already quite known that experience can cause expanded representation in various cortical areas, so failing to address that this "unusual" feature might have been caused by practicing the violin, rather than being the cause of violin skill, does little to boost the credibility of this article.

  5. Threatened easily, I see. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's natural for homo sapiens with average intelligence to fear the gifted. After all, if you admit they exist, then you may have to accept that their insights into things you don't understand may be true, and the fallacies you believe for the sake of convenience may be false. Einsten owns you, loufoque. Even dead. Cults of personality are often dangerous, yes. This is not such a case.

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    1. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by loufoque · · Score: 2

      It's because I understand things that I know there is no "gift", just regular people that happen to have good intuition and ideas sometimes.

    2. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

      It's natural for homo sapiens with average intelligence to fear the gifted. After all, if you admit they exist, then you may have to accept that their insights into things you don't understand may be true

      Or maybe God not only plays dice with the universe but throws them where we can't see them (to quote another gifted person who may have more than one thing genetically different about his nervous system).

    3. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      It's because I understand things that I know there is no "gift", just regular people that happen to have good intuition and ideas sometimes.

      That's like saying "there are no good drivers, just people with fast reflexes." I mean, what? Hello! What else does "gifted" mean that having your brain generate the right ideas at the right time?

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    4. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      It's natural for homo sapiens with average intelligence to fear the gifted.

      I must be unnatural, since gifted people turn me on (often just intellectually, mind you, but still...)

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    5. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Gifted implies there is something special, almost magic, which makes things entirely different.

    6. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      And Einstein was the Sebastien Loeb of thinking.

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    7. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Gifted implies there is something special, almost magic

      "implies"? ROFL. You're watching supernatural TV drama too much. Get real.

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    8. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by loufoque · · Score: 1

      If you don't understand what gifted means, I suggest you look up its etymology.

    9. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      If you don't understand what gifted means, I suggest you look up its etymology.

      I did. So what? It's not related solely to weddings anymore.

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    10. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Oh my god.
      You're not even trolling are you?

      gifted is originally "given a gift". That implies that something, be it god, nature, or the laws of the cosmos, *gave* the person something to make him exceptional. Can't you see the religious or supernatural - or whatever superstitious make-believe humans have invented to cover up their lack of understanding of our world -- implications when they're right in front of you?

    11. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1
      Of course I'm not trolling. I'm dead serious on this. You mentioned the "etymology of the word 'gifted'", and I responded. It's a venerable word of Indo-European origin, meaning the transfer of stuff between two entites. That's etymology to you - where the individual parts of a word came from. But that has no bearing on the subject. I don't understand why you mentioned it at all, since many words had completely different meanings in their oldest PIE reconstructions.

      Can't you see the religious or supernatural - or whatever superstitious make-believe humans have invented to cover up their lack of understanding of our world -- implications when they're right in front of you?

      Yes, some of them might have. But 1) that has nothing to do with etymology; 2) just because the word had some meanings in the past does not mean that it has the same set of meaning now; 3) you said "Gifted implies there is something special, almost magic" and now you're admitting yourself (be it god, nature, or the laws of the cosmos) that it could easily be a purely natural process - someone's brain ending up more capable than the brains of others - and indeed it is, thist is exactly what is happening, no fairies necessary, and no implications for anything supernatural. Get used to the fact that "gifted" is a common term in the field of psychology referring to precisely this. Or else start sending letter to publishing houses to stop using that word, it you honestly think its use to be misplaced.

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    12. Re:Threatened easily, I see. by JonySuede · · Score: 1

      Randomness, big numbers and low probabilities transform mystical events into rare events. No need to involved supranatural source for life's gifts

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  6. Re:The interesting question is by PPH · · Score: 2

    Some evidence suggests that it is developed. Specifically, studies of London cabbies' brains.

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  7. Re:And very likely... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    All we need to do is to compare them against our gold standard, Mr. Abbey Normal.

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  8. Re:The interesting question is by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    That was just the hippocampus (according to the Wikipedia article). TFA here talks about cortical enlargement.

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  9. Basic stupid question by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    All these folds and cracks in the brain ... Are they different for different people, like fingerprints? Or, do these folds and nooks and crannies largely the same for all human beings with small variations, (like the palm of the hand or something)?

    Same thing with molars. I keep reading article about finding a 100000 year old human molar in the rift valley or something. All the complex pattern on the molars... are they the same for all human beings? Or are they as distinct as finger prints?

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    1. Re:Basic stupid question by ozydingo · · Score: 1

      I'm not an expert on the subject, but I know there are at least several landmarks in the "nooks and crannies" (search for: gryi and sulci) that are shared across different people, and different areas of the brain are very typically found by looking relative to these landmarks (though often some amount of individual mapping is required in brain imaging studies).

  10. Einstein did not want this. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    Einstein specifically requested his brain not be analyzed or end up as a grotesque and bizarre display stoking morbid curiosity.

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    1. Re:Einstein did not want this. by tbird81 · · Score: 1

      And to deny others exactly what he spent his life doing (studying to learn) is rather rude to be honest. People remember the man, not his organs.

      John Holmes's fans shed a tear.

    2. Re:Einstein did not want this. by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Einstein specifically requested his brain not be analyzed or end up as a grotesque and bizarre display stoking morbid curiosity.

      Well, let this be a lesson then. You 'after I'm dead' wishes might not get granted.

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  11. Funny, it looks just like my brain. by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

    Funny, it looks just like my brain.

  12. Statistical fallacy by paiute · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't remember the exact details, but I recall that if you define say 20 parameters for measuring an object, there is a high probability that one of the parameters will be several sigma removed from the mean. So if you take a brain you already know is Einstein's, you can eventually find a property of that brain which is far from average. Does that mean he was a genius because of that property? Probably not.

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    1. Re:Statistical fallacy by ozydingo · · Score: 2

      If using a significance level of 0.05, then if you have 20 independent parameters and the null hypothesis is true for all of them, then the probability of all 20 statistical tests showing no difference is 0.95^20 = 0.36. Therefore the probability of getting at least one false positive is 64%. (I think I'm doing that right, anyway. Feel free to correct me)

      Of course not all the measurement are independent, etc, and perhaps the authors already corrected for multiple comparisons. I don't really know, I'm not that interested to find and read through the full manuscript. I also can't tell if the unfounded jumps to causal relationships came from the study authors or the summary author.

  13. Cause and effect by drrilll · · Score: 1

    Is he a genius because of the shape of his brain? Or is the shape of his brain the result of a lifelong pursuit of the intellectual? It's like saying someone lifts weights because they have overdeveloped muscles.

  14. Metonymy. Conflation. by girlinatrainingbra · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Compare Windows 8 running on an ARM processor tablet to MacOS 8 running on a Powerbook G3 laptop by comparing their visual display of the operating system. Now try to compare a transmission-electron microscope image of the ARM chip vs the PowerPC G3 chip.

    Hell, to equalize things a bit, compare Basilisk running on an AMDx64 chip running a Linux OS vs Basilisk running on an Intel Core i7 with Windows OS (pick your flavor) vs MacOS 7 running on a 68040-bare-hardware Mac IIci. Now run the same program on the emulated MacOS. What does looking at the hardware traces and the PNP-transistors vs NPN-transistors vs. the amount of area used for level I vs level II cache tell you?

    Hells bells, now run Linux debian on three chips: AMD, Intel, ARM, get into a terminal and watch what it does. Does the underlying hardware matter as much as what is running on it?

    Sometimes, looking at the bare metal will tell you nothing at all about what the system does or is capable of when it is "alive" with electrons running through it and with a particular program in its memory.

    I bet the brain is like that. Looking at the specific brain might tell you very little of the "mind" that ran on it when the neurons' chemical and electrical activities created the physiological system that was Einstein's mind.
    :>)
      That is what makes this analysis like phrenology:
      - conflating the mind with the brain;
      - conflating the body with the person that lived in it / inhabited it;
      - conflating the running simulation for the architecture and hardware upon which the simulation is running;
      - conflating the hardware with the running software program; ;
        - conflating the container for the thing contained ::
      Metonymy

  15. Smartest thing said here by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Your analogy regarding the "bare metal" is the most sensible observation offered on this thread.

  16. Surface area? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

    Does a person think with surface area? Without comparative data from a large number of individuals and some known relation between brain surface area and intelligence, there is no significance to the shape of a man's brain compared to that of another man.

  17. Re:Plagiarising fraud... by JonySuede · · Score: 1

    You are way wrong, read on the dadaist, the modern art movement was seeded by theirs manifesto. No need to involve racial conspiracy.

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  18. Re:Plagiarising fraud... by JonySuede · · Score: 1

    Oh, and I forgot to tell you that is was all a big prank.

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  19. Phrenology by anorlunda · · Score: 1

    This whole thing smacks of the crackpot science of phrenology. (i.e. a psychological theory or analytical method based on the belief that certain mental faculties and character traits are indicated by the configurations of the skull. In other words, reading the bumps on a person's head.)

    Sure there are very broad indications that certain parts of the brain are associated with broadly defined functions. There may also be a valid general inference that more wrinkles in a brain are better. But those things are a million miles away from making inferences about an individual's intelligence by looking at the wrinkles. Even more remote is being able to distinguish intelligence from genius by looking at a slice of flesh. I say poppycock.

    Someone explain to me how this whole branch of science differs from phrenology.

  20. Re:Metonymy. Conflation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some wise people say the brain is more like a radio antenna, picking up frequencies that comes from more subtle layers. Until we've RUN the tests, we will never truly know. I agree, we've yet to see evidence neural nets are enough for creating our minds. I do agree it _seems_ pretty darn close, given the unimaginable power of the brain though, but still, cannot really see how "me" can be created by that alone. There's basically two options: a subtle link or ghost in the machine. Given the seemingly endless complexity of the universe, I would never ever discount "subtle link". You could even call it "God", I would be fine by that too, whatever expands the mind.

  21. Re:The interesting question is by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    His convolutions is also not a new observation. My mother told me they were aware of this, and that was at least 35 years ago, so they probably knew the moment they pulled it out.

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  22. A study using a population of one by boddhisatva · · Score: 1

    This is "selection bias" taken to an extreme. I read he had a lump on the left parietal lobe from playing the violin and that pianists have a corresponding lump on the right. Did you read this in the Onion?

  23. Clement Stone by NewYork · · Score: 1

    "You are a product of your environment." --Clement Stone

  24. Einstein's Unique Brain? by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    The complexity and convolutions could we explained by the kind of unique mental excercises Einstein engaged in to arrive at his theories. The mental processes altered brain physiology, rather then the other way round.

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  25. Fishing by perceptual.cyclotron · · Score: 1

    In the same article, they claim two opposing features are both representative of his genius. Absence of a furrow in parietal suggests greater connectivity (tracts tend to be somewhat reduced going 'around' bends vs. 'across' them). Conversely, increased convolutions in frontal suggest greater surface area (ignoring the prior mention that his brain was smaller than average). Give me a break. Until we get a decent library of brains (which some folks are working on, thankfully), this is all as bad as evolutionary psychology (you know - girls like pink because they used to pick berries, and similar bs). We don't even know much about normative topologies, and certainly not about precise form-function relations...