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On Demo, a $25 1080p Camera Module For Raspberry Pi
hypnosec writes "The Raspberry Pi Foundation has announced a new add-on – a camera module that will enable the credit card sized computer to snap pictures as well as record 1080p videos. Showcased by RS Components at the Elecontrica 2012 in Germany [watch video here] the £16 (apprx) module will be equipped with a 5MP sensor and will plug into the otherwise unused CSI pins of the Pi. The camera module's board is still in prototype stage and is expected to reach production sometime soon. Liz Upton, Executive Director of the Foundation said in a blog post, 'We've a (very) little way to go before we're able to send it out to manufacture.' According to Upton, testing slots have been booked in December to check on electromagnetic radiations from the ribbon cable."
Where are you ordering from? Different vendors have different timings -- some will get you a Pi within a week, others (Allied?) don't seem to get much stock and take forever.
Its funny that just a few years back, the very first digital 1080P HD film cameras used by George Lucas and others cost well over 100,000 Dollars a piece to buy - without any (just as expensive) lenses included in that price. Now a cheap 25 Dollar addon to Raspberry Pi can do 1080P video capture. My my, how quickly technology advances these days...
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if you give it a good solid 5v (or even 5.1v) then it will...
oh wait.
nevermind.
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I checked 4 stores, they were all in the 4 week range
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... compressed into an H264 stream and then you're stuck with a CPU that makes first generation Atom netbooks look fast. The Raspberry Pi is yesteryear's phone hardware without the shiny case, folks. It's SLOW.
Hell I'm all for cool hackable stuffbut there are tons of cool gadgets out their that doesn't get the same attention. Stuff that is more open in every meaning of the world. Is this news ? I can pick up a HD camera (1080p30fps) for the same amount on aliexpress. Seeing that it is developed by RS, delivery from China will be quicker. I can even send it back and let it reship and it still will be faster then RS shipment of RPI stuff.
What is even ironically that the Liz Upton doesn't like Slashdot (look it up) or its community or anybody that has some valid criticism. Seeing how many advertisement Slashdot post it seems just a ridiculous thing to create buzz and post advertisement for people who in all honesty doesn't like your community. But then again sometimes I have the feeling seeing how things are getting edited, even the editors don't like this community... . So let me ask you this honest question timothy, why do you hate us so much ?
Why no attention for other open source products that may even have a more open attitude because openness doesn't only stop with hardware or software... . They ban people on ridiculous grounds (read the examples and make your own mind up if those bans are valid) I even saw people from the RPI foundation attacking luc verhoeven (of the lima driver) because he pointing (rightfully) that their whole Open Source GPU drivers are just PR BS. I have seen companies or groups abusing or misrepresenting open source slaughtered for less.
Sorry to come over as pissed, but it aggravates the hell out of me that projects like these gets ignored when they raise money to create a really fully open system and there is so much non news posted about the RPI. I find these kind of projects a lot more interesting for another RPI add on.
- Part of a car-puter system; dash cam / dome cam.
- Home security system cam
- video conf system
- video input for rPi-controlled robots
There are some great cases now sized for the Raspberry Pi; would be cool to see the physical equivalent of Linux distros, with rPi cases sized for / sold with various accessories, and a working OS included, including apps appropriate for some particular use. (Things like Zoneminder, say.)
- Lego-based plans (diagrams, lego) ....) basically something you could mount on any window of your car, or the hood, or the undercarriage.
- a case that includes this camera module (or equivalent -- hopefully this won't be the only one) with the camera either fixed, or in a swivel mount.
- Rugged case designed for all-kinds-of-attachment, along the lines of the GoPro camera accessories (magnetic mount, suction cup, strong attachment points for cord/velcro, future gecko-foot-sticky technology
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
Sweet, I am super psyched to see what else comes out this giant little platform.
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Which means if you actually ordered 4 weeks ago you'd have it by now.
'There was once a CPU so popular that no one ever ordered it any more'.
I ordered 20 for my classroom last Friday. They arrived on Wednesday. What supply problem?
Oh grow up and stop the whining hyperbole.
I ordered mine a month ago ( on a whim no less) and i got it in 3 days of ordering.
And thats the new rev 2.0 board with 512MB RAM. Ordered from Element14.
Supply issue my ass.
For the first three Pis i ordered from element 14/newark, i would agree with you. Shipped within three days. But my 4th one took almost a month from the same vendor. I think that alot of people switched over to newark after the other vendors starting taking too long and have now bogged them down.
Good-bye
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
Good-bye
I don't have one yet as I am more of a user than a hacker, hobbyist or developer, or whatever, but I am keen on putting together a kit which is known to work.
My dream? Car computer!
I want one of these to collect ALL SORTS of data... OBD2 data, environment data (temp, barametric, humidity, GPS and ALL that) and to put it out in some form which can be displayed on a device like an android tablet, web interface or even one of those USB display devices for an awesome digital dashboard.
I don't know why, but I love car data... it's so geeky cool. I want not just engine temp, but transmission temp too. I remember a few years back I was relocating and I was pulling a PT cruiser with a Jeep Cherokee... bad idea I know.. the PT is nearly as heavy as the Jeep, but it was a two wheel drive with a toyota transmission... it could handle it... and did. But I just HAD to add a thermometer to the transmission fluid to keep a watch on things and yes... it helped at certain points.
Anyway, I like gauges and dials and readouts and stuff :)
Until they can quote a refresh rate, I don't care.
If they later report that this can stream lightly-compressed 1080p at full frame rate, I will become very interested, but I'm guessing it won't offer any real advantages.
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That link backs up the point of how hostile Pi/Broadcom are to OSS, it doesn't refute it.
You're conflating Pi and Broadcom. Pi foundation is friendly to open source. Broadcom isn't. Somewhere in the middle lies Raspberry Pi, the product.
On the other hand, any claim that the platform is fully open in any particulars is a load of dingo's kidneys.
I still just want Android. They said they had it working. Then nothing, no answers to any questions, just the occasional flip comment telling someone that their concerns are unfounded. I bought the thing only after their announcement, on the assumption they'd release something. Where is my Android for R-Pi?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
As far as I know the power and ethernet design issues have been more or less solved, and now it's just USB :)
I am grumpy that the board didn't receive more testing as well, but as I have posted elsewhere on here, I feel I have only myself to blame. I should have known better than to expect it to work properly in the first revision.
I sure would like to know why they've not released ICS for R-Pi when they claimed to have it working so very long ago, but they won't say. It's the lack of openness in this supposedly open project that gets my goat.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
With a good enclosure and some good storage, not to mention a hefty battery, I can see this spending lots of time taking time lapse photos for days and even weeks on end! I can't wait to see how its packaged, and I hope the lens doesn't stink.
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I ordered two monday last week and got them friday.
This monday I went by the local computer store to pickup some more SD cards and they had over 20 on the shelf in bubble packs, so I picked up my 3rd.
Some of the distributers even have over night shipping for $30, including the one I used, which had hundreds in stock.
http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/raspberry-model-p-1032.html
one left, hurry!
Seriously, Element 14 is a good alternative. But RS were utter rubbish at it!
It's an OmniVision part, but yes, it seems to be all closed as usual. I've never understood why image sensor documentation is so locked down.
Yup, you are too clueless, because you obviously have no idea of the complexity involved. It takes man-months to really get a camera driver working properly, then man years to tune the sensor ISP to actually produce decent pictures. You get all that work, plus PCB development, for $25. And it is the standard OV sensor, not a specific 'locked down' version - you don't need locked down sensors because the damn things are all bloody different anyway.
But actually Jamesh didnt say that was the reason the GPU blob is locked down at all. The GPU has its own firmware which is closed course, the camera driver and tuning are in that firmware, so are locked down as a result of the entire GPU source being closed, not because people are not experienced enough to make the sensor work.
But full marks for FUD - well done.
the problem that every store I check has a 4 week back order
I want to be able to buy one without waiting a month, thought that was clear
just cause some hobby shop near you happened to have one, doesn't mean they are available
every single shop I checked has a 4 week backorder, glad you were lucky
you need to understand what biggot means
and yes people are idiots for following instructions provided by the designers
I bought my first two from CPC http://cpc.farnell.com/
Unfortunately their "check stock" link isn't loading for me, so assuming the worst they may be sold out now.
Checking eBay though, here are 4 of them including a very nice case, for $35 each using buy-it-now (not an auction)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-Model-B-ABS-Case-NEW-U-S-Manufacture-and-Seller-HDMI-/150928193043?pt=US_Computer_Cases&hash=item2324057613
I admit it's getting annoying searching ebay, with all the new case sellers that have popped up.
I hope this helps though.
Ah my mistake, that ebay listing was just another case seller.
Looks like the actual Pis are all going up in price, $50 or more. Not sure if you wanted to spend that much yet
*Listing is for CASE ONLY
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Sorry to reply to a second post, but I happened to load the page between your two posts & it took me that long to read down to it :)
(Ignore my other reply)
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No problems, I felt the same way once I noticed and had to do the same double-reply thing.
Sucks I couldn't edit it or even take it back. With so few left I wanted the parent poster to have a good shot at it.
Never a good deed goes unpunished I guess
the sensor part is open and trivial to set up/communicate with, the communication port on RPI is closed black box
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
That's just a marketing come-on to get you to order.
Once you order, you are informed of the standard 4-week wait...and if you complain, they just tell you somebody else got the one in stock just seconds before you did...
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Granted, I did go a bit overboard in the powered USB Hub department, what with 28 ports and all, but it almost fit within the confines of a 32x32 lego plate
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It also depends on where you are, here in the UK I can find three suppliers who claim to have stock but the US situation doesn't appear anywhere near as rosy.
note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
What good is a Raspberry Pi camera accessory when you can't get a Raspberry Pi?
There are now at least three vendors in the UK with the raspberry Pi in stock. Things don't seem so rosy in the US right now unfortunately though newark claim "1321 Expected to ship 26 Nov, 2012"
The foundation has its priorities all wrong. If they put half as much effort into the supply problems as they do on this neverending astroturfing
The trouble is with something like the Pi you can't just buy the components off the shelf. The manufacturing partners have to order the SoCs, wait for them to be produced and shipped to the PCB assembly factory, then get the boards made and shipped from where they produce them to where they want to sell them. That takes months so they have to guess how many boards they are going to sell months in advance of actually selling them.
If they guess too high then they have stock sitting on the shelves which locks up capital and which may lead to having to sell the units at a loss down the line. If they guess too low then they have pissed off potential customers like you.
note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
Neither did any of you morons. It's "bigot", ONE "g".
Ordered on Monday, getting this Monday. One week is acceptable.
Or if I'm willing to pay a fair chunk more at a Maplin I can have one in my hand this very day.
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
It has now been long enough, and the demand has been high enough, that this should be irrelevant.
Look, I know how hard it is to get stuff fabbed. I handled the manufacturing for the P112 project. We use an OBSOLETE component in the mix, one that the only sources are "new old stock" and floor sweepings.
We were able to go from Gerbers to shipping in about a month. Granted, I live in the Pacific Northwest and have access to an awesome board fab and board stuffer.
With the quantity of JIT vendors out there, and now with the length of time the Pi has been shipping, there should be no more supply problems. And it sounds like the supply problems are largely the fault of the US resellers, not on the UK side of the pond.
Nah, their stock levels appear to be accurate. Bought two from them recently*, and they're active on twitter.
Ah well you've missed the boat ... someone bought the last one!
*Just before the upgraded Sony units were released.
Here in NZ, in the middle of nowhere, I just got my pi from element14 with overnight delivery. They sent me two even though I only ordered 1. Now that's service!
Hej! Nasi tu byli!
I handled the manufacturing for the P112 project.
You mean the one that was recently on kickstarter? The one that was talking about 150 units?
We were able to go from Gerbers to shipping in about a month.
I can believe that. Presumablly all the parts you used (other than the PCB) were bought from stock. Some of them may have been tricky to find but once found presumablly buying them was reasonablly quick.
It has now been long enough, and the demand has been high enough, that this should be irrelevant.
I'd agree it's taken an annoyingly long time and that both the RPF and the manufacturing partners have made mistakes which have delayed things.
Still the backlog basically boils down to "how much are the companies who are paying for the manufacturing prepared to risk", not "how much work are the RPF prepared to do". So saying the RPF shouldn't work on other things while the backlog still exists is silly.
note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
I ordered 5 from CPC last week and got them the next morning. This was the bundle with case, debian squeeze on a 4GB SD and PSU, and they're still showing 'in stock'. CPC have always been reliable for me. I've been using them since they were an electronics spares shop in the 80s with a 4-page photocopied stock list. They've grown to a 1000+ page printed catalogue selling just about anything electronic / electric / officy and I can't fault them. They were bought by Farnell at some point in the past decade, but both being northern UK companies that wasn't so painful - they're both great companies to deal with, and I'm very happy about the bringing together of a company I've always liked and a great product in the kind of technology I've championed for a long time.
We'll be using our RPIs as solid-state video looping devices. The commercial offerings in the UK are easily 5x the price, even at the RPI bundle prices ($80) and having used a few in the past, I'm much happier that the RPI solution will work better for us.
I too was very happy with my CPC order. I placed the order on a Monday afternoon and recieved them Friday, so only 4 days total from UK to the USA.
Right now they are showing having units in stock. The moment I checked before, they must have been overloaded with traffic with all the recent Pi announcements. /. if someone was serious about purchasing one or not.
I never heard anything back from the original person I replied to about if he finally found one. One can never know on
OK, I don't know what shipping to US is (mine was free in UK) but RIGHT HERE is an answer to us supply problem (I'm assuming CPC don't restrict supplies by country). I'd mod you up (got the points) but I've already posted here (plus I guess I wouldn't want to dry up the UK supply!). Happy RPI hacking. Enjoy your made-in-Wales RPI!
I ordered 5 RPi's from Newark on 11/17, and the latest status on the web site is "Expected Ship Date 10 Dec 2012". Naturally they said they were in stock the moment I ordered them.
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