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Iran Suspends Programmer's Death Sentence

jamaicaplain writes "Reuters reports that 'Iran has suspended the death sentence for a computer programmer convicted on charges of running a pornographic website after he "repented for his actions," his lawyer was quoted as saying on Sunday. Saeed Malekpour, an Iranian citizen and Canadian resident, was arrested in 2008 while visiting relatives in Iran, according to Amnesty International. Although Iranian authorities accused him of running a pornography site, Amnesty has said the charges appear to stem from a software program created by Malekpour that was used without his knowledge to post pornographic images.'" It's not clear if he'll ever be released, however.

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  1. Fundamental lack of intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is like sentencing a truck designer to death because trucks are used to transport alcohol.

    But in fundamentalist societies like Iran and some of the southern US states, intelligence is not a factor in getting into power. So these people don't see the logical discontinuity between the person writing software (or designing trucks) and the actual other person using the software (or the truck) to do something illegal under their laws. /anonymous because of troll baiting glib southern US state comment

    1. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Intelligence doesn't really seem to be a factor for getting into power anywhere, so I'm not quite sure why you singled out any one area of the world in particular.

      It seems to me that charisma is much more important for getting ahead in politics and business.

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    2. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems to me that charisma is much more important for getting ahead in politics and business.

      Technically, it's sexual attractiveness. Charisma is just a generic term for someone that is sexually attractive as well as knowing how to use it to their advantage. And intelligence is a factor for getting into power... just not by itself. Intelligence alone has no proven evolutionary advantage (that is, the chance of passing your genes on to the next generation). I know many people who have intelligence but lack attractive features, and they are amongst the most miserable people I know. It allows them to be aware of exactly how the world works, in every detail, and to also be forced to be constantly aware of how small they are within it. The Total Perspective Vortex isn't just a plot device for intelligent people: for them, they've already sat in the chair.

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    3. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't need to pass an IQ test to be in the Senate

      --Mark Pryor, Senator from Arkansas.

      Just putting this out there, the quote is from Bill Maher's Religulous.

    4. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Technically, it's sexual attractiveness. Charisma is just a generic term for someone that is sexually attractive as well as knowing how to use it to their advantage.

      I think that's a bit short sighted. I think most people would agree that e.g. the Dalei Lama or Queen Elizabeth II are charismatic leaders, but would not rate them anywhere near "attractive"

      But it's not completly unrelated.

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    5. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by khallow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But in fundamentalist societies like Iran and some of the southern US states

      Merely having fundamentalists (who aren't at all equivalent) in your society isn't the same as having a fundamentalist society. Having someone in the neighborhood who occasionally advocates prayer in school or creationism isn't the same as official organs of the state executing people for sponsoring pornography and rigidly holding to blatantly religious law.

    6. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

      No, I'm telling you that attractiveness is subjective. What you and I find attractive may well differ, despite popular opinion. You may find a timid, shy person attractive, whereas I may find a powerful and confident person attractive; Neither has anything to do with physical appearance, but apparently you can only be "attractive" if you have big boobs or six-pack abs.

      If I have any agenda, it's that I want people to form their own opinions and not rely on having them spoon fed to them by advertising gurus and media moguls. I don't care if who you do or don't want to screw; I just want you to decide for yourself, regardless of who is on the cover of Vogue this week.

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    7. Re:Fundamental lack of intelligence by chrismcb · · Score: 2

      This is like sentencing a truck designer to death because trucks are used to transport alcohol.

      It would be much more like sentencing a truck designer to death because he designed a truck to explicitly transport alcohol, in a place where it is forbidden by death to transport alcohol.

  2. Islamic porn by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's worth noting that in this particular country, porn can consist of people showing a little bit of nose. Women are pulled off the streets all the time for this kind of thing and beaten. Foreign women are well-advised to be aware of local customs prior to travel, as it can result in beatings, arrest, or being forcibly stripped and your clothing replaced with something more "decent" according to their laws.

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    1. Re:Islamic porn by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Umm no, you're describing of our friends in Saudi Arabia, not our enemies in Iran.

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    2. Re:Islamic porn by Psyborgue · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, Iran does not require the full veil (Niqab). They do, however, require the hair be covered.

    3. Re:Islamic porn by Any+Web+Loco · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is complete and utter rubbish. I've been to Iran a number of times, just two weeks ago returning from a two month trip there (with my non-Iranian wife, her second trip to Iran), and I can categorically say that you are utterly wrong. Don't get me wrong - Iran's treatment of women is appalling, but you are way off base here - nothing like what you describe happens. As TapeCutter points out, you're probably thinking about our good friends, who flew planes into the WTC, the Saudis.

    4. Re:Islamic porn by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the defense of Britain, that was the subset of the British who were such theocratic wackjobs that they sailed across the Atlantic in a glorified tub and set up shop in a ghastly wilderness hellhole just so that they could enjoy the pleasure of being on the enjoyable side of religious persecution...

    5. Re:Islamic porn by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Umm no, you're describing of our friends in Saudi Arabia, not our enemies in Iran.

      No, he's being quite accurate in the "pulled off the streets" part, as I believe he's referring to Iran's basiji militias, or at least the subset of them who go out on "morality" patrols to make sure that women are "properly" covered, aren't wearing makeup, aren't walking with unrelated men, etc. You're right in that the standards they enforce are a little less strict than those in Saudi Arabia (just a headscarf being required, rather than a full-body chador), but the basiji are much more likely than their Saudi counterparts (the mutaween) to use violence on the spot. It can be something merely humiliating, like shaving the woman's head if her scarf does not completely cover her hair, or a beating, all the way up to things like pulling out her fingernails with pliers (if she has on nail polish) or throwing acid in her face. I'm certainly not going to praise the mutaween or the Saudi religious laws, but at least there you're more likely to wind up in front of a judge and be able to plead your case.

      As far as porn goes, "showing a little bit of nose" isn't porn in Iran, but they definitely do execute people for making porn (either acting in it or being part of the production process).

      Incidentally, the only reason for the headscarves vs. chador type of differences are due to the Iranian leadership having to work at stuffing the secularization genie back into the bottle, whereas in Saudi Arabia it never got out -- Iran had an ongoing women's movement since early in the 20th century. It's not through any lack of desire on the mullah's part to have it that way. Even the strongest dictatorship can only roll things back so fast as long as people remember the freedoms that are being suppressed.

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    6. Re:Islamic porn by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2

      the basiji are much more likely than their Saudi counterparts (the mutaween) to use violence on the spot. It can be something merely humiliating, like shaving the woman's head if her scarf does not completely cover her hair, or a beating, all the way up to things like pulling out her fingernails with pliers (if she has on nail polish) or throwing acid in her face.

      Can you give any references for that? Preferably from the more recent (as in, 90s-00s) timeframe, not during and immediately after the Islamic Revolution.

      The reason why I ask is that you can see plenty of photos from modern Iran with women wearing scarfs not completely covering their hair, and they don't look harassed. Which seems to imply that what you describe does not happen often.

      Incidentally, the only reason for the headscarves vs. chador type of differences are due to the Iranian leadership having to work at stuffing the secularization genie back into the bottle, whereas in Saudi Arabia it never got out -- Iran had an ongoing women's movement since early in the 20th century.

      The difference is actually because they subscribe to different schools of Islamic thought. Saudi Arabia is Wahhabi, which is an extremely fundamentalist and retrograde form of Islam, and has some of the most stringent dress codes. Iran is Shiite, and their dress code is different.

    7. Re:Islamic porn by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's even funnier than that. They first sailed to Holland, where religious tolerance was already implemented - and so they weren't persecuted there. But they found it to be such a horrible "den of vices" full of "temptations" for their children, that they decided to move to the Colonies where they could actually enforce their morality without interference.

  3. Not a programmer by unixguy98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He's not a programmer, and he was not involved in any dating site. He had a site called Avizoon (means SLUT in english). Have you heard of a "dating website" with such name? He was involved in child pornography, abusing private images and films stoled from people's computer using several hired men, and now his lawyer claims he's a programmer!
    Let's look at what he calims Malekpour has written: A Perl/PHP program called: Movable Type . As far as I know an American company with the name of Six Apart is the developer, and not a stupid porn distributor called Malekpour. See this screenshot from his website.

    1. Re:Not a programmer by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I see that this post hos been modded "interesting". It might be interesting, and it might be true, but at the moment, it is completely baseless.

      IOW, [citation needed]

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  4. Islamic extremist values by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I once watched a video clip of an Iranian girl getting stoned to death by a crowd of people. At one point during the ordeal her dress started to ride up her legs. One of the attackers was very quick to cover up her legs again.
    Extremely horrific violence: Ok.
    Semi-nudity: Not ok.

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    1. Re:Islamic extremist values by gaspyy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know what's funny? I notice the same attitude in US (I'm from Europe).

      The American public is OK with movies showing all and any kind of violence - from "simple" headshots to horrific torture and mutilation. But when the same movie is showing some skin, they have to mention how disgusted they are. I just don't get it.

    2. Re:Islamic extremist values by Psyborgue · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you actually lived in the US you might notice that 90% of Americans could give a shit less. There is a small, vocal, minority that will raise a stink over a stray tittay, but that's about it. Also, a graphic headshot will almost always earn a movie an R rating. Then again, there are also times where a an exposed breast will not earn an R rating (e.g. Titanic).

    3. Re:Islamic extremist values by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Extremely horrific violence: Ok. Semi-nudity: Not ok.

      Please, explain why I can buy the "Saw" series of movies in the local supermarket next to Spongebob boxed sets, but in order to see a boob I would have to go to an 'adult shop'.

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    4. Re:Islamic extremist values by Stickerboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is +4 Insightful? I could buy plenty of movies with boobs showing at the supermarket. "R" rating includes pretty much everything except prolonged full frontal nudity and/or hardcore sex. In some cases, enough people get off that here in the United States wenominate it for an Oscar.

      Heck, if boobage is all you're looking for, just turn on some cable TV. Don't act like you have to travel to the naughty side of town for that.

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    5. Re:Islamic extremist values by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2
      Yes, you're quite right. I'll rephrase my post:

      Extremely horrific violence: Ok. Semi-nudity: Not ok.

      Please, explain why I can buy the "Saw" series of movies, where the point is to simulate intense psychological torture and often physical mutilation prior to execution in spectacularly visceral fashion, in the local supermarket next to Spongebob boxed sets, but in order to see a a simulated act of completely natural physical affection between two consenting adults I would have to go to an 'adult shop'.

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  5. Facts, not movies by unixguy98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I once watched a video clip of an American helicopter killing a crowd of people, because one of them had a camera in his hand. And it was not a clip from a movie, just like what you've watched. It was a clip from recordings of the Apache helicopter, that was later named Collateeral Murder by Julian Assange.
    So, let's talk about facts, not movies.

    1. Re:Facts, not movies by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 2

      It was footage from a mobile phone. Not a staged movie. The girl died when they slammed a cinderblock onto her head.

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  6. Re:hmmm pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where are the pictures ? :-)

    You should have a sad face emoticon. This is the dude behind goatse.cx. Now do you understand why they gave him the death sentence?

  7. Simple lesson by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't visit any Muslim country, EVER! For that matter, never ever visit any country where the local laws and your history and lifestyle conflict. Don't drink in an alcohol free country. Not even if it is offered.

    Don't smuggle or use Drugs in the US of A not even if some states now allow it. As a foreigner, no local senator is going to burn his fingers on you to get you free from the federal government.

    Don't take "teen" porn into a nation that has higher age limits for porn. Don't take manga/anime into such countries either, the laws might not be enforced always but you don't want to be the exception to the rule.

    Yes it sucks but a foreign nation doesn't owe you anything. Right now in Saudi Arabia, a young foreign girl is in jail for life NOT because the COURT wants her to be in jail but because under Sharia law, until the parents of the baby she supervised when it died (at no fault of her) forgive her, she remains in jail. The police, medical examiners and court have said she is not to blame but Sharia law rules otherwise and if you go to such a backward place, you agree to be bound by it. So. DON'T.

    And it ain't even hard stuff, do you know that on the whole it is not a good idea to "argue" with an American cop. In Holland it is perfectly normal. In the US? NO! And you might get away with it in a tourist trap but in a southern state?

    99% of the time, nothing will happen and then it does and you get caned for dropping chewing gum on the sidewalk.

    It is one of the things you got to consider really carefully when considering a job in another country, does that country legal system and culture conflict with yours? Both the US and Holland for instance got stoners but Dutch stoners don't risk jail with every joint. You might be going to work in an industry where drug use is considered normal but will that cop searching your car feel the same? Hell, even ordinary smokers better consider the smoking laws in a foreign country.

    If you are one of those people who needs a beer at the end of the day, is a Muslim controlled country really worth it? If you want to wash your car on sundays better stay out of bible belt areas.

    See this video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4tqg_top-gear-take-on-the-us-pt-2-close-call-crossing-alabama_auto

    Are you gay, a liberal or have a brain? Stay out of the South, you are not welcome. Don't think New York, Philidelpia and LA are all of the US, some parts are as dangerous as the most backwards Muslim nations and worse. Because at least most Muslim nations are ruled by dictators who usually don't want trouble (Arab Spring so far has only made the Arab nations less liberal and less secular) and whose police (Turkey's military used to heavy handedly enforce its secular system as set up by Ata Turk, the democractic system so far is shifting the country to be a pure Muslim state instead) might not like your liberal arse but have strict orders not to allow stuff to happen unless someone in power needs an incident. No such protection exists in the deep South.

    For that matter, any southern republican thinking about leaving for Australia because a black man is in the white house and you just hate that socialist Obamacare? Ooops, Australia is far more to the left then any part of the USA. For that matter, all western countries are. A redneck won't be at home anywhere else. Better realize that Philadelphia is redneck heaven before taking a job in Europe. Or you won't last long.

    Be wary when travelling, you are entering an other countries legal system and culture and you don't want to be an example to other travellers.

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    1. Re:Simple lesson by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Informative

      side note from a friend who almost got shot in the US: in some EU countries it's normal to get out of the car when you're pulled over.

      In the US they'll shoot you.
      Stay in the car, hands where they can see them, don't move a muscle or they'll kill you.

    2. Re:Simple lesson by Inda · · Score: 5, Funny

      In the UK, if you've done nothing wrong, roll the window down 20mm, turn up your radio, smile with the biggest show of teeth possible. The copper will ask you to get out your car if it's raining, snowing, or the wind chill feels under -20c. Procede to walk around the copper's car kicking the tyres like an expert mechanic.

      Always ask why you've been pulled over. Expect the answer to be "Just a routine check, sir". Follow that up with "Why can't you find a proper job?", "Haven't you got any real criminals to find?", or "Were you bullied as a child?". Expect 20 questions about coins in your wallet, silver foil in the footwell, and the reason you're talking so much. Spell your name when asked, even if it's a common name such as "Smith". Smoke'em if you've got 'em - Coppers love the smell. If the copper asks if it's OK for them to smoke, tell them no, as you've just given up, and you hate the smell. If they fake recognition by means of the question "Don't I know you?", reply with "I think I know your sister".

      If you've done something wrong, get out the car. Keep the copper talking for as long a possible but don't talk about your crime. Try and confuse him (or her) by using long words such as "elaborate" and "concoction". "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer.

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    3. Re:Simple lesson by i · · Score: 2

      I can imagine that you felt like that.

      But people that routinely points loaded and unsecured guns at people - and you, will sometimes proceed in the automatic "drill" and fire.

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  8. Re:That doesn't make any sense by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The military has something called "command presence", which I'm certain could be related to charisma. Like leadership, some people are just born with it, some people learn it, while most people never get close enough to it to even begin to understand it.

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  9. Re:For sure not so hard by Tagged_84 · · Score: 4, Informative

    And I did google both, your google "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" came up with the first website about it being a hoax. "Iranian girl sentenced" never came up with any hoaxes or myths.

  10. Re:This is typical Muzzy reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not condoning anything here, but your comment makes it seem like you didn't even read the headline. The story is that he *won't* get the death sentence, but your comment is that this is "typical". Given your atrocious bigoted comment history when it comes to anything related to Islam, I'm not really surprised by your lack of critical thinking skills, but this seems poor even by your low standards.

  11. Oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought they were finally going to judge Drupal developers... better luck next time...