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Movie Studios Ask Google To Censor Links To Legal Copies of Their Own Films

An anonymous reader writes "Several large movie studios have asked Google to take down legitimate pages related to their own films, including sites legally hosting, promoting, or discussing them. Victims of the takedown requests include sites where the content is hosted legally (Amazon, CBS, iTunes, Blockbuster, Verizon on demand, and Xfinity), newspapers discussing the content in question (the BBC, CNET, Forbes, The Huffington Post, The Guardian, The Independent, The Mirror, The Daily Mail, and Wired) as well as official Facebook Pages for the movies and TV shows and even their Wikipedia entries. There are also a number of legitimate links that appear to be completely unrelated to the content that is supposedly being protected. The good news is that Google has so far left many of the links up."

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  1. Hm... by sidthegeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm thinking Google should just remove any and all links to anything that even just has the movie studios' name on it. Including their own websites.

    1. Re:Hm... by SleazyRidr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perfect time to show them what Google really does for them: any page that includes the name of the studio, or any of the movies that the studio has ever made will no longer appear in search results. See how long it takes them to realise their folly.

    2. Re:Hm... by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perfect time to show them what Google really does for them: any page that includes the name of the studio, or any of the movies that the studio has ever made will no longer appear in search results. See how long it takes them to realise their folly.

      And then people use Bing because they can't get to RottenTomatoes or IMDB through Google? And everyone says "Google is broken" and they show just how flippant they are when it comes to searching?

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    3. Re:Hm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why purge it from the system entirely?

      Leave the results there, but poison the link itself to take to a Google landing page of "Sorry, but we were told we cannot link to this {movie studio, movie, whatever} by {MPAA, others}. If you have a problem with this, please talk to them. Fuck you MPAA, Google."

    4. Re:Hm... by jcoy42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think Google should impose a fee to said studios for making bogus takedown requests. After all it's not free for Google to comply with these requests, and if the studios aren't even willing to validate them perhaps they should be billed for the time it takes to do so.

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    5. Re:Hm... by organgtool · · Score: 5, Funny

      And then people use Bing because they can't get to RottenTomatoes or IMDB through Google? And everyone says "Google is broken" and they show just how flippant they are when it comes to searching?

      What's a Bing? Sorry, I'm just too lazy to Google it.

    6. Re:Hm... by anubi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I would go one step further and publish the legal documentation received... including the sender's name, email, and company affiliation.

      A further link will show the law invoked, and which congressmen voted it in.

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    7. Re:Hm... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not redirect them to a page with the big US Federal Government graphic saying this page contains illegal content?

      Why not redirect them to goatse?

      I mean, as long as we're throwing out ideas..

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    8. Re:Hm... by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Informative

      Goatse.cx is now a safe-for-work webmail provider

    9. Re:Hm... by fatphil · · Score: 2

      You were two clicks away from seeing the exact wording in the take-down notices:

      """
      SWORN STATEMENTS

      I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above as allegedly infringing is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

      The information in this notification is accurate, and I swear, under penalty of perjury, that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
      """

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  2. Huh by Cinder6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, Hollywood is actively trying to push itself into obscurity?

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    1. Re:Huh by Pieroxy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, Hollywood is actively trying to push itself into obscurity?

      There's nothing new here. First DRM, then DMCA, and now they want to censor themselves. Their own sheer stupidity truly is amazing. Maybe they'll make a movie off of it one day...

    2. Re:Huh by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Their own sheer stupidity truly is amazing. Maybe they'll make a movie off of it one day...

      If someone makes a movie, for a censored industry. Does it turn a profit?

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    3. Re:Huh by Deadstick · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Eons ago there was a magazine called Softside that published games written in BASIC for the Apple II, Atari and TRS-80. It soon got a visit from a Radio Shack lawyer asserting that only Tandy had the right to publish software for their computers, and demanding that they cease and desist from saying "Radio Shack" or "TRS-80" in their articles unless they paid Tandy a royalty.

      The magazine complied by saying "S-80 Bus" which was not within the scope of Tandy's trademarks. Tandy got its wish: nobody ever writes about Radio Shack computers today.

    4. Re:Huh by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hobbit movie, suckered in?

      I don't know whether to mod your Hobbit post -1 Troll or +1 Troll.

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    5. Re:Huh by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Tandy got its wish: nobody ever writes about Radio Shack computers today."

      Except you, so it would appear :D

    6. Re:Huh by rk · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think there were +3 Trolls in that book, until the sun came up, then it was -3 Trolls.

  3. Google should comply by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Take them all down, plus any link relating to the studio, all studio movies, show times, or anything similar.

    Make the bastards pay for promotion like they did in the days of newspaper advertising. Charge them 10 million dollars per movie studio, 1 million per movie, and 100k per site to get back into Google's index.

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  4. Just do it by Morpf · · Score: 2

    I hope Google delists these webpages (only the specific pages that correlate to the films) and any other (free?) advertisements. Maybe then the film studios get to feel, how it is not having ads in the internet. Just let them shoot in their own feet.

  5. Many of the links by SleazyRidr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The good news is that Google has so far left many of the links up.

    No, good news would be that Google has completely disregarded any communications. The fact that the word "many" was used rather than "all" means that it is in fact quite bad news.

    1. Re:Many of the links by niado · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The good news is that Google has so far left many of the links up.

      No, good news would be that Google has completely disregarded any communications. The fact that the word "many" was used rather than "all" means that it is in fact quite bad news.

      Well, the reporter possibly checked some of the links in questions, found they were still up, and used "many" as opposed to "all" since they couldn't verify "all".

  6. It's BULLSHIT. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There has to be some sort of fine for this automated bullshit. The price for bullshit "take-downs" should be enough to discurage this automated take-down crap.

    In fact, automated requests should not be allowed.

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    1. Re:It's BULLSHIT. by organgtool · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would recommend something like $150,000 per false request, but I think that most legislators, judges, and lawyers would surely find that figure to be absurd for a minor civil offense.

  7. Google should honor the most stupid requests first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Victims of the takedown requests include sites where the content is hosted legally (Amazon, CBS, iTunes, Blockbuster, Verizon on demand, and Xfinity), newspapers discussing the content in question (the BBC, CNET, Forbes, The Huffington Post, The Guardian, The Independent, The Mirror, The Daily Mail, and Wired) as well as official Facebook...The good news is that Google has so far left many of the links up."

    I'm thinking the net would be a much better place if Google just obeyed these requests, no questions asked. And did it very fast.

  8. Onion? Is that you? by yotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously this sounds like an Onion article that someone copied and put on their site.

  9. "The good news"? by Huntr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The good news is that Google has so far left many of the links up."

    How is that good news? If the studio wants a link to their own Facebook page for a movie removed from search results, DO IT. Google should comply with the idiotic requests. I would imagine the response would be similar to those newspaper sites that have requested their stuff be removed from Google News: traffic dives and they change their tune rather quickly. IMO, the best way to show the stupidity of the DMCA is to plainly demonstrate it to the content creators.

    1. Re:"The good news"? by Tx · · Score: 2

      Yes; organisations like Google are in the unenviable position of having to either a) devote a great deal of resources to looking into all these takedown requests to see if they are valid, or b) accept the takedown requests at face value, and wait to see if the person on the receiving end protest. Neither choice is good, but it might make a point to the studios if Google chose to take the latter course as far as these particular requests are concerned. And perhaps not be in too much of a hurry to restore the pages when the time comes either.

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  10. Re:Why?? by Tx · · Score: 5, Informative

    First paragraph of TFA says "We’ve written about the ridiculousness of automated Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) requests before, including Microsoft asking Google to censor BBC, CBS, CNN, Wikipedia, the US government, and even its own Bing links, but this latest episode takes the cake." That would seem to imply it's an automated process in play, although there really isn't much information in the article, and it could conceivably be read another way.

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  11. queue and charge for invalid takedown notices by RichMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a) all takedown notices from a rights holder will be sequentially queued
    b) right holder must provide complete history of ownership and demonstrate right to assert takedown
    b) if item (N) is found to be an invalid take down request a fee of $ZZ,ZZZ must be paid
    c) regardless of the validity of request (N+1) it will not be acted on until any fees requried for invalid requests (MN+1) have been paid

    As long as the rights holders are making valid requests they get serviced. Mess around and they have to pay for the work done.

  12. FALSE ALARM by fwice · · Score: 3, Informative

    It may have been some randoms doing DMCA illegally:

    FTFA:

    Update: Yesitis.org now points to a parked page. Yet another sign that these notices may be fraudulent, and not authorized by the copyright holders at all. If that’s indeed the case it remains unclear what the purpose of these notices is. It would show how easily these DMCA notices can be abused.

  13. Re:Why?? by Pieroxy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or perhaps just the movie studios clearly mis-understanding what the internet is all about.

    Perhaps? It's been a while. They've clearly demonstrated it beyond any shred of doubt.

  14. Bing It On! by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's a Bing? Sorry, I'm just too lazy to Google it.

    Oh, that's easy! I saw this hip new original television show called Hawaii Five-0 where the characters say "Bing it!" and the dialog flows so naturally in this scene you just have to see it. And when she looks up Clifton Bowles, she just has to push in "C" and then "L" and Clifton Bowles autocompletes because, let's face it, everyone's searching for Clifton Bowles and "CL" is more than enough to complete that search!

    Oh yeah, as a viewer that product placement was natural and unforced and subconsciously I find myself saying "Bing it!" more and more in everyday conversations. I've also found myself buying a lot of Bing Crosby CDs, planning my trip to Bing, Iran and drinking a lot of British Bing Cola ...

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    1. Re:Bing It On! by MrDoh! · · Score: 2

      Could that BE anymore silly.

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  15. Re:Why?? by runeghost · · Score: 2

    The corporations have gone rampant.

  16. Perjury? by hawguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    So what does the "under penalty of perjury" part of a DMCA takedown notice mean?

    AFAIK, a takedown notice has to include something like this:

    Under penalty of perjury I certify that the information contained in the notification is both true and accurate, and I have the authority to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright(s) involved.

    Doesn't that mean that someone can be held legally liable for fraudulent takedown notices? Who would have to sue to enforce it? Google? The legitimate site that was taken down because of the notice? The Department of Homeland Security since they are supposed to be keeping us safe?

  17. I recently saw this first hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm responsible for maintaining a marketing site owned by a sister-company of big Hollywoood movie studio. We market the DVD/BluRay/Online releases of major blockbuster movies. As part of a limitation of our CMS, we couldn't host trailers ourselves, so the marketing team was using a YouTube account.

    The YouTube trailer for the DVD/BluRay release of a major summer blockbuster was taken down via a DMCA request. As a result, the trailer was broken on our marketing page for that release. Luckily, this was right around the time that we got our own video hosting resolved so we were able to solve it. But it was beautiful that for a couple days, the page running on OurCompanySite.com displayed a video with the message, "This content removed from YouTube at the request of Our Company"

  18. PLEASE by systemidx · · Score: 2

    This NEEDS to happen. I'm certain this idea was thought up by some marketing drone.

    Marketing Ass 1: "I got a great idea! Let's force google to take down links to our movies! That will TOTALLY make people want to see and buy our movies!"
    Marketing Ass 2: "But how will they know about it...?"
    Marketing Ass 1: "Fuck you, we're doing it anyway."

    The less I hear/see about these asinine movies, the better. (Even though it's a rarity these days that the movie studios actually release a NEW movie, instead of some shitty ass 3d version of an older one).

  19. Internet Death Sentence by utkonos · · Score: 2

    I think it's high time for Google to issue an internet death sentence for a day or two to each movie studio that participated in this. They will see what happens when their internet presence disappears from Google.

  20. Google Police by l3v1 · · Score: 2

    "have asked Google to take down legitimate pages related to their own films, including sites legally hosting, promoting, or discussing them"

    Over the years there have been similar wishes over and over again, which would make Google basically a police mandate over content hosted by 3rd parties, making them un-findable in searches. Which, in my view is crazy a** stupid. If they have problems with content out there, they should kick those in their behinds who actually host the content they want to "protect", and not try to get a search engine block access. The very purpose of a search engine is to answer your queries, independent of those queries' perceived legality (and searching for the title of a movie is most certainly not illegal). If someone puts up illegal content for others to see, that person/entity should be policed over, and leave the freaking search engines alone. I don't want to get to a point where a search engine can't be trusted to actually search for what you seek because some companies force it to censor results.

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  21. I know what I'd do. by mgcarley · · Score: 2

    If I were Larry Page I'd have laughed them out of my office.

    Frankly, this kind of behaviour from them makes me WANT to pirate their content [on the assumption that it was worth watching in the first place, in reality, there's too much garbage] - just because they're being arseholes.

    But seriously, I sincerely hope that Google tells the studios to go fuck themselves.

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