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Parrot Drives Robotic Buggy

grrlscientist writes "Proving that robots aren't just for people any longer, an African grey parrot, Pepper, has learned to drive a robot that was specially designed for him. Pepper, whose wings are clipped to preventing him from flying around his humans' house and destroying their things, now manipulates the joystick on his riding robot to guide it to where ever he wishes to go. This robotic 'bird buggy' was the brainchild of his human companion, Andrew Gray, a 29-year-old electrical and computer engineering graduate student at the University of Florida."

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  1. Re:Awesome by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's like having a 2 to 5 year old that lives longer than you do.

    That said, they are damn smart birds.

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  2. ironic... by Tastecicles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that the same human who had the birds wings clipped so it can't move has had to build him a fucking go kart so he's able to move around again.

    Fuck you, Andrew Gray, and the horse you rode in on. IF you haven't clipped its hooves at the knee, that is!

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    1. Re:ironic... by newcastlejon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For the sake of argument, is it really that cruel? It doesn't seem as bad to me as docking a puppy's tail; primary feathers grow back, don't they?

      Mind you, a friend of mine had a beautiful white parrot when I was younger and he never had much trouble with it breaking his stuff. Perhaps instead of altering a pet to one's home it's better to alter the home to suit the pet.

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    2. Re:ironic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Grey's are large birds, too large to really fly in an average house. It may not be able to fly between rooms due to narrow hallways and clutter anyway.

      I have a couple of smaller birds, fully flighted and they're not really happy about needing to fly to chase you. Often they'll scream at you instead.

      Also you guys might temper your anger realizing that wing clipping is temporary. You clip their wings once a month or so, because all you're doing is cutting the outermost 4 flight feathers back. These fall out and grow back (trimmed or not). For most birds this is enough to make flying very difficult.

    3. Re:ironic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just FYI, guys, it's not cruelty. You don't actually cut their wings, just their feathers, and you have to keep cutting them because they grow back all the time.

      But, I do agree that this is totally unnecessary. Parrots are very smart, can be trained, and are fucking birds - totally capable of moving around without a crappy golf cart. Don't clip him, just train him to not do whatever it is he was doing wrong. Plus they have beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue. Mine's been really quiet since I got him, though. I think he's pining for the fjords.

    4. Re:ironic... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Andrew Gray, and the horse you rode in on. IF you haven't clipped its hooves at the knee, that is!

      It's not the wings that are clipped, just some feathers to keep it from hurting itself inside the house.

      We can disagree about whether or not any animal should be kept by humans, but clipping the feathers of a parrot so it doesn't hurt itself flying around the house don't really qualify as enormously cruel. Certainly not as "cruel" as forcibly neutering a dog or cat. Probably not as cruel as riding a horse.

      There is an argument about the lifespan of the parrot, though. He's going to live on average about 20% longer as a pet than he would as a free bird. We could ask the parrot whether he'd rather have some feathers clipped and live in a safe home with abundant food and no predators (plus a very cool scooter) or in the wild where his life will be much shorter, but he's not talking.

      Or maybe he is talking, since he's a parrot...

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    5. Re:ironic... by Duds · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they're too big for the average house, don't KEEP them in an average house.

      And how is it being temporary any better, that just means you're doing it more often.

    6. Re:ironic... by cusco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Grey parrots are 1) one of the most intelligent species of birds known, 2) one of the most destructive species of birds known. They're probably exceeded only by the New Zealand kea (which can remove every plastic part on the exterior of a car except for the tires in an hour) in destructiveness.

      I remember having to ferret-proof a house, I can only imagine what a pain in the ass it would have been if the critter had been able to fly too.

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    7. Re:ironic... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually greys have no problem at all flying in the average house. I have had greys in 400-600 sqft apartments and they can fly just fine through all the different rooms. Also a grey can walk nearly as fast as that cart can move. In addition to wings they do have perfectly good legs and can cross an average sized bedroom in seconds on foot. After having kept clipped birds and birds with full flight feathers I would never keep them clipped ever again. I love when a bird can fly to my shoulder whenever he wants and it's such a wonderful ability that they were born with. Even if they can only fly indoors I still think it's better than nothing.

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    8. Re:ironic... by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...that the same human who had the birds wings clipped so it can't move has had to build him a fucking go kart so he's able to move around again.

      Fuck you, Andrew Gray, and the horse you rode in on. IF you haven't clipped its hooves at the knee, that is!

      The bird is well looked after and you can tell that just by looking at it's feathers. The very fact that the bird knows how to *drive* the buggy means that it is getting enough attention to be healthy and the fact that his wings are clipped means that the bird has appropriate flight power for being indoors - from which we can deduce that the bird is completely domesticated and thinks of it's cage as it's own 'room' - so it also has it's own territory.

      From the video the bird only flapped it's wings to maintain it's balance, that means the bird *chooses* to play with the cart. Parrots are fast, manuverable birds, and just because it's wings are clipped doesn't mean it can't fly - it just means that it won't get out of control, frustrated, scared and hurt itself inside a house. If it was a wild bird then you might have a point. The guy owns a parrot, that's a 25-60 year commitment to a pet, so before you go judging the guy ask yourself if you could do the same thing.

      Honestly settle down with the political correctness, it's far more offensive than a parrot with it's wings clipped.

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  3. no such luck by the_other_one · · Score: 4, Funny

    I tried t get my Norwegian Blue to drive a buggy but it just sits there and does nothing.

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    1. Re:no such luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's merely pinin' for a Ford!

  4. Re:Cruelty to animals by lightBearer · · Score: 5, Informative

    With larger birds such as African Grey's, there is a really high risk of injury to the bird if they are allowed to grow up flying inside a house. Young birds do not understand glass for instance, and will attempt to fly into it, ultimately doing harm to themselves. To offset this, the non-permanent wing clipping is employed to prevent them from taking flight. This doesn't prevent gliding, however, so they can still leap safely off ledges to the floor to get around. Once they're older, you have to take into account that the nearly or fully grown bird has never flown, so you keep clipping the wings as they don't know how to use them.

    I've never owned a Parrot but I grew up with one and my parents opted to not clip his wings. The net result was a lot of snapped feathers and a bird with neurological damage from running into things full tilt. Not pretty.

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  5. Re:Fuck the owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Man, lotta PETA supporters or something on /. today. Are you against neutering cats and dogs too?

    1. It's not a "free bird". A free bird would be one that's outside in the trees. This is a domesticated bird in a house. But I assume you just threw the "free" part in as an emotional word of some sort to get people onto your side anyway.
    2. Clipping the wings is exactly NOTHING like breaking the legs. Since it's only temporarily trimming the end feathers, it's more akin to clipping a cat's nails. It stops the cat from gripping the ground when running, so therefore it must be cruel. If a bird that large were allowed to fly about freely inside, it'd likely do more damage to itself than to objects.
    3. Before you even think about talking about declawing, just stop with that horribly incorrect analogy already. Clipped feathers grow back, removing the top knuckle of the cat's paws doesn't. And no, my cat isn't declawed, that's cruel.
    4. You're an idiot, and god help you if you ever own a pet.

    I just took a cone off my cat from him having had surgery. Are advocating that I should have left the cone off and let him chew away at his stitches instead, because the cone isn't natural, and hinders him?

    Not all things people do to pets are for the sake of cruelty. In fact, I would argue that the vast, VAST majority of things we do for pets is because we love them, and it's better for them.

  6. Re:Awesome by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    When the parrot cuts you off in traffic, does he give you... the bird?