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Playstation Controller Runs Syrian Rebel Tank

SternisheFan writes "As Syria's rebels work to overthrow the tank-equipped Assad regime, they've learned that it helps to have tanks of their own. They deserve bonus points for integrating video game technology. This is no exaggeration. Have a look at the opposition forces' "100 percent made in Syria" armored vehicle, the Sham II. Named for ancient Syria and assembled out of spare parts over the course of a month, the Sham II is sort of rough around the edges, but it's got impressive guts. It rides on the chassis of an old diesel car and is fully encased in light steel that's rusted from the elements. Five cameras are mounted around the tank's outside, and there's a machine gun mounted on a turning turret. Inside, it kind of looks like a man cave. A couple of flat screen TVs are mounted on opposite walls. The driver sits in front of one, controlling the vehicle with a steering wheel, and the gunner sits at the other, aiming the machine gun with a Playstation controller."

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  1. Novel by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Novel, but let's hope there's no electrical failure or a single wire in that video system that comes loose, otherwise they are sitting in a dark metal box without a single port or window. Military tanks have multiple methods the driver can see outside in addition to any electronic systems - optical periscopes, a hatch directly above the driver that they can raise their seat and literally stick their head out while driving, etc.

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    1. Re:Novel by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's an interesting battlefield trend over the decades where if they can see you, you're pretty much dead.

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    2. Re:Novel by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's an interesting battlefield trend over the decades where if they can see you, you're pretty much dead.

      Try the last century or so, the British learned the lesson about what happens when you loose air superiority and show your ass in open country the hard way at the battle of Cambrai in 1917, entire battalions and even regimental sized units were badly torn up by German attack aircraft during the British retreat. Mind you, on this same occasion, the Germans them selves learned a few painful things about the massed use of armor from the British who them selves learned that Tanks can be knocked out by aircraft and that anti aircraft guns with their flat trajectories and high muzzle velocity are good for shooting at more things than aircraft. One has to give the Taliban and the rest of these Middle Eastern guerrilla forces credit for being very, very good at not showing their ass in open country and when they do they usually distribute their forces to the point where airstrikes boils down to the USAF hosing off a $100.000 PGM to kill 6 guys carrying a $150 Khyber Pass AK47 copy and maybe 30 bucks worth of grenades and ammo each.

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    3. Re:Novel by davydagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or better yet, it might look cool, or dangerous, but what about the scrap grade steel is made out of, how ballasticly sound is it?

      This "hillbilly armor" is the same welded on cheap steal armor that the humvees started using when they first when to armor. It wasn't that great and it really didn't stop bullets all too well.

      This is not a "tank", but a ghetto version of an armored humvee, without the protection that modern ones have (will stop all rounds short of .50 BMG).

      Its not much of a "tank" by todays standards, more like an armored car. Tank implies 360 degree turret, think armor and decent sized cannon for main armament.

      MBTs, or main battle tanks, the only real tanks left (there are no more light, medium and heavy tanks in the modern age), are heavily armored, tracked vehciles, with large main gun cannons, designed as anti-vehicle weapons, and quick moving mobile guns.

      Yes, I know my shit on tanks. Yes its first hand. This is not one.

    4. Re:Novel by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hold on, are you trying to suggest that a vehicle that took a month and $10k to design and build doesn't have the same capabilities as an M1A2? Have you notified the author?

      Seriously though, cut the guys some slack. It might not fit your definition of a "tank", but it's pretty impressive that these guys are able to design, build, and field vehicles like this. If the fighting goes on for too much longer then I'm sure we'll see version 3 of this vehicle. I doubt they are trying to put these things up against T90s, but it's a novel idea when they need a machine gun out there and an advantage against the other troops. It's like an IFV without the I.

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  2. Gamepad not Playstation Controller by ninjacheeseburger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Judging by the buttons 1,2,3,4 I'd say this is a generic pc gamepad not a playstation controller.

    1. Re:Gamepad not Playstation Controller by glueball · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does pressing up up down down left right left right B A start give any additional protection?

      Oh. That's the Nintendo tank. Nevermind.

  3. Does this mean that gaming controllers by jenningsthecat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    are going to be on the ITAR list?

    Seriously though, the gap between technology available to consumers and that available to the military only has narrowed drastically over the last decade or two. And I think it's a good thing - it helps to level the playing field between oppressive regimes, (or would-be oppressive regimes), and citizens.

    Anything that puts power into the hands of the otherwise disenfranchised is probably, on the whole, a good thing.

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  4. Otherwise known as by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call of Duty: Duct Tape Ops

  5. Your driving I'm watching. by zippo01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WOW, this is not a tank, its a death trap. An old diesel car with light steel construction? I wouldn't drive this to my local geto grocery store much less a war zone with real tanks and explosives. Nice try, but fail...

    1. Re:Your driving I'm watching. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

      How do you get 1/4 - 1/2 inches from 2.5cm? 2.5cm is .98 inches. Both articles cite 2.5cm as the thickness of the steel.

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  6. Controller, phooey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone knows you use a mouse and keyboard! This choice of input devices has doomed the rebels to failure!

  7. Not a tank by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Light Armored Vehicle maybe, but not a tank... Tanks have a heavy caliber main gun with machine gun as backups. A vehicle with only a machine gun isn't a tank... Probably well within the category of LAV though.

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  8. Taken out of commision.... by kryliss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    by a common spike strip.

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  9. Re:If you disable the cameras... by vlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why shine a IR laser when you can launch a RPG?

    On the modern battlefield if they see you, you're dead. This is not the era of wooden ships and iron men, or even WWII battleships.

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  10. Not a tank by gman003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    That is not a tank. That's an armored car.

    A tank requires three things: heavy armor, a turret-mounted gun capable of anti-tank combat, and the use of tracks instead of wheels.

    This arguably fails all three. It's a wheeled vehicle, and that 7.62mm gun may as well be paintballs to other tanks - it's a common caliber for the coax gun on modern tanks, for use when you don't want to waste your expensive ammo against mere infantry. The armor is definitely insufficient to handle modern tanks, but it would have been enough for 20's and '30s tanks (or perhaps WW2-era Italian or Japanese tanks), so you could probably squeeze it in.

    That said, as long as the rebels use it intelligently, an armored car is a very useful tool. Keep it in the cities, where tanks have difficulty maneuvering, but use its mobility to outflank infantry. It will be interesting to see how long it lasts - it doesn't look like it could handle modern anti-tank missiles, but it *might* stand up to an RPG-7 or so.

  11. Re:Not a Playstation controller by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Umm, that's not a Playstation controller, or at least not an official first-party one. Give how many PC controllers have used that style, it's more likely just some generic PC controller.

    These guys are out to smash the state; but they aren't the sort of depraved nihilists who violate EULAs!

  12. Re:A-Team jokes by sheehaje · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was actually thinking of Stripes ...

    Man I wanted that bad ass RV when I was a kid.

  13. Re:More of an AFV... by Scutter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's 3/8" steel scrap at 50 yards with 7.62x39 fired from an AK47. I recommend muting the volume.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zke2JLYWlMc

    It'll go right through it and then proceed to shred the occupants of the vehicle, incidentally also spraying whoever is missed with molten steel.

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  14. Re:I, for one, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Achmed, we have air conditioning now!

  15. Re:and ps2 run there missile guidance systems by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    They would have used PS3s but sadly they only found ones that were updated and stripped of their ability to run Linux.

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  16. They're gonna get pwned. . . by JSBiff · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . by the guys using a mouse and keyboard. Everyone knows the accuracy and response time of an optical mouse is an order of magnitude greater than a d-stick.

  17. Re:More of an AFV... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Informative

    While that's a nice video, both articles cite the thickness at 2.5cm, or 1 inch.

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