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Google Sync Clobbers Chrome Browsers

If you use Chrome along with Google's Sync, you may have noticed something strange Monday: normally stable Chrome crashing. An article at Wired (excerpt below) explains why: "Late Monday, Google engineer Tim Steele confirmed what developers had been suspecting. The crashes were affecting Chrome users who were using another Google web service known as Sync, and that Sync and other Google services — presumably Gmail too — were clobbered Monday when Google misconfigured its load-balancing servers. ... Steele wrote in a developer discussion forum, a problem with Google's Sync servers kicked off an error on the browser, which made Chrome abruptly shut down on the desktop. 'It's due to a backend service that sync servers depend on becoming overwhelmed, and sync servers responding to that by telling all clients to throttle all data types,' Steele said. That 'throttling' messed up things in the browser, causing it to crash."

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  1. Sync was sunk by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sync was sunk
    By a bristly punk.
    Having less facial drag,
    He'd've more clearly thunk.
    Burma Shave

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  2. Why I will never use the "cloud" exclusively by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fine as *one* backup location, fine for non-critical data and apps, fine for anything that won't be particularly missed if it goes offline for a while.

    Shit for anything important.

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    1. Re:Why I will never use the "cloud" exclusively by marcello_dl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the most important piece of the summary is not that the googly cloudy system failed (clouds fail, reality different than spin, is it still news?).

      It is that it may be possible to crash chrome from remote, proof of concept exploits may follow soon.

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    2. Re:Why I will never use the "cloud" exclusively by kllrnohj · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is that it may be possible to crash chrome from remote, proof of concept exploits may follow soon.

      1) Getting it to crash doesn't mean you can actually exploit it. There are boatloads of crashes that you can't exploit

      2) The only way you could crash it in this manner in the first place would be to re-target the sync endpoint to get Chrome to connect to a different remote server for syncing, which would be a huge security vulnerability in the first place.

  3. Re:I miss Firefox in this regard by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Informative

    What you are seeing has nothing to do with sync and would happen even if you turned sync off. Chrome is just starting up as quickly as it can and only loading bookmarks when it can get to it.

  4. Chrome + Windows = Firefox by Baldrson · · Score: 2

    It seems there are some significant problems with Chrome on Windows that go beyond Windows' standard brain damage. The problems I've run into have been numerous enough that I've had to drop Chrome on my Windows machine and go to Firefox. Everyone is familiar with the usual disk pounding that Windows considers more important than servicing user events such as mouse clicks, etc. However, in the case of Chrome it seems very much worse. Firefox -- no problem. (Yes, all the usual suspects such as extensions, plugins, malware/virus scans etc. have been dealt with.)

  5. Re:I miss Firefox in this regard by robmv · · Score: 2

    Firefox doesn't have only bookmark sync, it can sync settings, bookmarks, add-ons, passwords, history and tabs

    The real advantage of Firefox sync is that is encrypted on the client side, so Mozilla is unable to read your data, not the same with Chrome

  6. This explains it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here I thought it was crashing because I installed a plugin to make it more like Firefox.

  7. Re:I miss Firefox in this regard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The real advantage of Firefox sync is that is encrypted on the client side, so Mozilla is unable to read your data, not the same with Chrome

    That's what I thought too, but apparently Chrome can do that too - it's just not on by default. Go to Settings > Advanced sync settings > Encrypt all synced data.

  8. Firefox much improved by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    Firefox is no longer the bloated piece of crap it once was while Chrome was new. It uses the least amount of ram of any browser. It no longer requires 4 gigs of ram and a quad core like version 4. Plugins no longer break with the latest release either between versions. Chrome has gotten buggy and much slower in comparison. In 2011 Chrome would the only browser besides old IE that could run on 5 year old hardware. Now firefox runs as fast as 2.0 on these systems.

  9. And Yet by JustOK · · Score: 5, Informative

    No one is talking about slashdot being down last night.

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    1. Re: And Yet by JustOK · · Score: 2

      baloney. couldn't get anything. sourceforge, slashdot and freecode all down etc were down. front page was not visible

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    2. Re: And Yet by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      It was mentioned in another thread today and was modded 'off topic' which to be fair it was. /. Wasn't 'down' though. Th front page was visible, the ads were loading, but, all clicks were ignored except the log in window which you could fill in then a 503 error this morning around 8.30 uk time. /. Was up, but unresponsive. Just like me at 8.30 in the morning in the office

      Actually the clicks weren't ignored, as the URL bar showed. It's just that the complete URL was ignored, and Slashdot just showed the front page for any and every URL.

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    3. Re: And Yet by Dupple · · Score: 2

      You're right and my mistake. The URL showed correctly, but the page didn't load.

      The front page was definitely visible at around 8.30am UK. How else was i able to attempt to log in and get a 503?

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  10. Crash during boot by nurbles · · Score: 2

    I'm more surprised that every time I BOOTED Windows there was a Google Chrome crash message box presented. I can assure you that I was never given an option about having Chrome start with Windows and I most definitely did NOT added Chrome to any of my start up stuff. So in addition to showing that actual humans work at Google (well, at least a few) this also exposed the fact that installing Chrome installs something (that may claim to BE Chrome) that normally runs silently every time Windows is started. Maybe some of you knew about it, but it was news to everyone I've asked.

    Also, I've been bit by Firefox's sync feature, too, when one of the machines had a problem and trashed all of my settings, bookmarks and add-ons the sync feature decided to propagate THAT to my other machines instead of using sync to fix the broken one. One would think that, if it was smart enough to detect that those things were corrupted, it should have used sync to get good copies, NOT to share the corruption. Heh... Maybe there's an ex or future politician writing code for Firefox, eh?

  11. Line by line debugging reveals... by Sasayaki · · Score: 5, Funny

    //try
    //{
    tabs.sync();
    //}
    //catch
    //{
    //printf("Oops, cloud sync failed. Terribly sorry, Captain. We'll fail gracefully and just make do without.");
    //}
    // James, I fucking told you not to use try-catch statements, they're too slow. The code works and a cloud failure is basically impossible (five nines, baby) so just chill, will you?
    // P.S. /* comment */ is for chumps.

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    1. Re:Line by line debugging reveals... by lgw · · Score: 2

      C++ error checking was horribly slow when the feature was first added to compilers (late 80's, or early 90's, depending on the compiler), but that got fixed soon thereafter.

      Basically, a catch block pushes a marker on the stack, which is pretty fast. On a throw, the compiler looks for that marker on each stack frame it unwinds, which is not free but still pretty fast - and since it's completely under the compiler's control, it's quite well optimized these days.

      So, it's stil slower than not doing error checking, but we don't live in a security world where that's acceptable any more. However, compared to the old paradigm of all functions return an error code, and you check that error code after every function call you ever make it's faster. If you grok assembly you can simply look at the optimized output in the debugger: fewer conditional branches when using exceptions, as one would expect.

      What's really bad, by performance or any other measure, in any programming language is "pokemon exceptions" ("gotta catch em all") where every damn function has a catch block. But that's just bad code.

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  12. Re:Firefox + Windows = Opera by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

    $ tr "Firefox Opera" "Opera Midori" < parentcomment

    That gives:

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    I'm not sure what this is intended to tell me, though.

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  13. Top that? Son, I'm gonna obliterate it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    All right - stop what you're doin' 'cause I'm about to ruin
    the image and the style that you're used to.
    I look funny, but yo, I'm makin' money see -
    so yo world, I hope you're ready for me!

    Now gather round, I'm the new fool in town
    and my sound's laid down by the Underground.
    I drink up all the Hennessey ya got on ya shelf
    so just let me introduce myself

    My name is Humpty, pronounced with a Umpty.
    Yo ladies, oh how I like to hump thee.
    And all the rappers in the top ten--please allow me to bump thee.
    I'm steppin' tall, y'all,
    and just like Humpty Dumpty
    you're gonna fall when the stereos pump me.

    I like to rhyme,
    I like my beats funky,
    I'm spunky. I like my oatmeal lumpy.
    I'm sick wit dis, straight gangsta mack
    but sometimes I get ridiculous
    I'll eat up all your crackers and your licorice

    hey yo fat girl, c'mere--are ya ticklish?
    Yeah, I called ya fat.
    Look at me, I'm skinny
    It never stopped me from gettin' busy
    I'm a freak, I like the girls with the boom
    I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom
    I'm crazy, Allow me to amaze thee.
    They say I'm ugly but it just don't faze me.
    I'm still gettin' in the girls' pants
    and I even got my own dance

    The Humpty Dance is your chance to do the hump
    Do the Humpty Hump, come on and do the Humpty Hump
    Do the Humpty Hump, just watch me do the Humpty Hump
    Do ya know what I'm doin', doin' the Humpty Hump
    Do the Humpty Hump, do the Humpty Hump

    Where is your God now, Frosty Piss?

  14. IE by CMYKjunkie · · Score: 2

    This is why I use IE 6!! Rock solid.

  15. Re:Top that? Son, I'm gonna obliterate it. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am... Humbled...

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