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First time accepted submitter Uzuri writes "I'm soon going to have the experience of interviewing an individual to be my direct supervisor. I have in mind several things to ask already, especially since I also have the strange position of working as a technical person in a non-technical office and want to be able to be certain that the interviewee understands exactly what that means without coming off as hostile or condescending. What sort of questions would you ask/have you asked the person who was to be your boss? What sort of tells would you look for? What's out of bounds?"

219 comments

  1. Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will you fire me?

    1. Re:Ask him by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Better idea - ask about management style, then count the buzzwords. Deduct 10 points for each buzzword, and reject the candidate when the score drops by 50.

      In all seriousness though, HR is probably going to ride shotgun over the whole process, and they will most likely provide the article submitter with guidelines (usually that STAR thingy, where you ask questions like "...tell me about a time when you were frustrated with another employee during a project, and how you overcame it to meet the project goals.")

      What I would do is not only ask similar questions, but pay very close attention to body language, personality, and suchlike. Be sure to throw in questions that make him/her squirm and think a little, to see how they react. Maybe make him write a script/program/etc or two while you're at it to see how proficient the person is.

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    2. Re:Ask him by vikingpower · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Very good, mod parent up. Body language is very important. Does he/she keep his/her hands visible, and what "story" do the hands tell ? Do you get to look the interviewee straight into the eyes, and as often as you want ? Deduct points for every time you hear "Honestly..." or "Frankly...", for you may be sure that after these words you are going to hear the exact opposite of what they mean.

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    3. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even better - apply to the position yourself.
      You're almost sure to ace that interview!

    4. Re:Ask him by Synerg1y · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Managers should manage, coders should write code. A manager should get the jist of what's going on beneath him/her, but not partake in it. Also, the obvious question comes to mind that I haven't seen yet... why not promote yourself?

      Let's think about this, if you're good enough to hire your own boss, you're good enough to be that guy, well betas excluded.

      I've turned the opportunity down once (to become the boss), and I felt like I had a slew of good reasons, but I'll always wonder what if till it comes up again anyways. But... if somebody asked me to hire my own boss, I'd recommend myself and if not, I'd find another place to work. Under no circumstance do I want to hire then train a person who's going to be making more than me and telling me what to do, that has "not ends well" written all over it. Most management types are POS anyways.

    5. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In answer to your question about "why not promote yourself", allow me to quote your own post

      Managers should manage, coders should write code

      Some people are comfortable and enjoy managing, others are comfortable and enjoy clacking on a computer.... myself being very much in the latter category. I absolutely can't stand the thought of managing a team and having to deal with interpersonal people problems and office politics, whereas instead I could just do what I love instead.

      For some people, the ultimate goal of your work at a location isn't "make as much money as humanly possible", but instead "Enjoy what you do". There literally was an opportunity for me to apply for a management position. I didn't even slightly think about putting in my resume for it.

      Why would I want to do a job where I'm going to be miserable? If I can currently feed, clothe, and shelter myself quite comfortably, what incentive do I have to be miserable for almost all of my waking hours for the next 3 or 4 decades, with the only payoff being able to feed, clothe, and shelter myself slightly fancier?

      Sorry, I'd rather not spend the best years of my life deliberately making myself miserable.

    6. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hear that bullshit about "honestly" and "frankly" all the time and most everyone believes it. I say the same words as filler speech to invoke attention at the beginning of a statement or to add a bit of dramatization. It certainly doesn't mean I'm lying. Honestly, when I'm lying, I won't say that shit because of the connotation it has on it. I'll also look you straight in the eyes.

    7. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10 points for each buzzword? I'd only deduct 1 point for each buzzword, but my rejection threshold would be -5.

    8. Re:Ask him by GNious · · Score: 5, Funny

      Deduct points for every time you hear "Honestly..." or "Frankly...", for you may be sure that after these words you are going to hear the exact opposite of what they mean.

      You must be american ...

    9. Re:Ask him by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

      Deduct at least 10 points for the phrase "moving forward".

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    10. Re:Ask him by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Yeah...I don't understand that.

      I'll look someone straight in the eyes when telling the truth, and I'll do the same thing while lying to your face...

      I try not to do the latter...but in the past, I'd dare say the lies would often sound more heartfelt and honest than the truth did....

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    11. Re:Ask him by bzipitidoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Body language is very important.

      Aaaggh! This is what I hate so about interviewing. All my education, training, and experience means less than a highly subjective and unreliable measure such as body language. In those kinds of interviews, it's annoying to discover you've been wasting your time talking with someone who doesn't care what you're talking about because they don't know jack about technology. All they've been doing is judging your mannerisms, seeing how old you look, and listening for any hints about your family situation that they're not supposed to consider when making a hiring decision.

      You rely on body language, and you will get stuck with the bullshit artists. There are more bullshit artists than there are competent engineers. Think you can tell the different between these two kinds of people? If you don't know the field, you haven't got a chance. Take people who are weak on math and hazy about the odds and rules of poker but who think they're great at reading body language, and see how far they get.

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    12. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deduct points for every time you hear "Honestly..." or "Frankly...", for you may be sure that after these words you are going to hear the exact opposite of what they mean.

      You must be american ...

      I also thought that was weird. I'm not a native English speaker, and I use "honestly", "in truth" or similar just for the dramatization / to invoke attention (borrowing the words of the AC). I have been concerned about being taken too literally (if I say "honestly" now, does that mean that what I have been lying so far?). It never crossed my mind that it could be interpreted as "what follows is a lie". It's good to know, though. Honestly, I use it a lot, I guess I should change that, just in case.

    13. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I don't want my bosses job.

      Dealing with all the other management types that I can't stand at the best of times. Dealing with the owner who seems to think that we're all just a bunch of slackers that don't want to work 80 to 90 hours a week. Writing report after report after report and have no one read them and just what ever the hell they want to do any ways.

      Thanks but no thanks. I'll keep my slave wage and my sanity.

    14. Re:Ask him by Cammi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One word... family. Almost a decade ago, I was interviewing people to be my supervisor. We ended up with a person who did not fit ... and he ended up leaving last year. After that, I applied for the position and got it. I didn't do it because of the position, I do not care much for managing. But I did it because of two reasons: 1. Who know's what the next person/wildcard would be. I could not take that chance. 2. Pay raise. At the time, my family was growing, so I needed income to keep pace (I know, I know, plan before having kids, but as any parent knows, life does not work that way). I am not miserable, as not only do I have my programming duties, but I have managing duties as well.

    15. Re:Ask him by gtall · · Score: 2

      And 15 for "synergistic". 20 for "incentivize". And if you hear "empowerment", you are already dead, vote NO!

    16. Re:Ask him by 9jack9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There Are Only Three True Job Interview Questions

      1. Can you do the job?
      2. Will you love the job?
      3. Can we tolerate working with you?

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgebradt/2011/04/27/top-executive-recruiters-agree-there-are-only-three-key-job-interview-questions/

    17. Re:Ask him by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

      Let's think about this, if you're good enough to hire your own boss, you're good enough to be that guy, well betas excluded.

      Let's think about this. The original question didn't say anything about hiring, just about interviewing.

      I strongly suspect that the final hiring decision will come from a senior manager higher up the chain, based ultimately on that senior manager's own judgement. That decision will, however, be informed - in part - by the input he receives from the underlings who participated in the interview process.

      And that's a Good Thing, for everyone involved. Senior management needs to know if prospective management candidates will be able to interact effectively with their technical and non-technical subordinates. One of the ways to assess this is to put them in a room together.

      It's also possible that senior management recognizes their own limitations, and want to have someone who is able to assess or test the candidate's claims about his own technical abilities. It's not unusual for a company, when hiring, to carry out several rounds of interviews testing (explicitly or not) different aspects of the candidate's skills and knowledge, and introducing them to different parts of the company's structure and personnel, with each.

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    18. Re:Ask him by v1 · · Score: 2

      if somebody asked me to hire my own boss, I'd recommend myself and if not, I'd find another place to work.

      Some of us don't want to be managers. I sure don't want my boss's job. I'm a tech and fix stuff. He's a pencil pusher and firewalls against stupid and hostile customers. I couldn't stand to do his job.

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    19. Re:Ask him by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      The simple solution here is to have the senior manager in the room WHILE he's interviewing the candidate if that was the case. I guess the guy would have to clarify his question to know for sure. It's possible they'll just take his word for it and hire whoever he recommends, especially if sr. management is not involved in the interview process themselves.

    20. Re:Ask him by Xenna · · Score: 2

      I agree partially. I hired a tech guy with horrible body language. He was incredibly nervous and made notes the whole time. Still, he turned out a pretty good colleague (with his faults, of course). But I wouldn't hire him as my manager. But then my manager wouldn't be an engineer.

    21. Re:Ask him by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      AC, i didn't take the promo cause I'd be directly under the owner, whom I never had nice things to say about. However, what I consider is that it opens up the door for other management jobs at other companies, so I would've picked up 1-2 years of experience, told her to f' off and went off to make bank elsewhere. Also, people deal with pencil pushing in different ways, for all you know, your boss goes home and uses all that dough to snort coke off a hooker's ass or something :)

      If you don't think you can deal with boredom... IT can be pretty boring in general when stuff isn't breaking, so in self-reflection I don't think the level of intensity would've been that different.

    22. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deduct 147 points if you think that your points scale will honestly matter. If you are thumbs down and everyone else is thumbs up guess what your vote doesn't count. As a subordinate you have .5 of a vote (and if they don't like the way you vote they reserve the right to disregard everything you say).

    23. Re:Ask him by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

      Why No. 2 matters? I mean, I can understand why it matters to employee, but why the employer cares?

      This really should be:

      1. Can you do the job?
      2. Can you tolerate job?
      3. Can we tolerate you?
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    24. Re:Ask him by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Managers should manage, coders should write code Some people are comfortable and enjoy managing, others are comfortable and enjoy clacking on a computer.... myself being very much in the latter category. I absolutely can't stand the thought of managing a team and having to deal with interpersonal people problems and office politics, whereas instead I could just do what I love instead.

      But maybe you should manage at least once, and see what it's like, before knocking it.

      Also... Hiring and interviewing a prospective hire are management type functions. So if you're not willing to manage, why are you in the position of doing that?

      Perhaps you should be hiring an assistant under you to do the management work managing the people, instead (With you as the superior in the hierarchy), so you can take care of the more difficult, more highly intellectual tasks such as managing the code..

    25. Re:Ask him by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 0

      " I'll also look you straight in the eyes."

      Absolutely. One of the biggest pieces of BS I still keep hearing about job interviews is to "look the interviewer in the eyes." But psychologists have long known that DISHONEST people maintain eye contact more than honest people do.

      Certainly you want to look the person in the eye, but only for a brief moment. Holding eye contact becomes uncomfortable in a very short time. And sadly, many interviewers also still believe that lots of eye contact is a good thing. Fail.

    26. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that's perfect! It works right in with the job-seeking advice I give people: Look for a job that you're good at above all else, not necessarily one that you'll enjoy. If you're good at the job, you can more easily get promotions and bonuses, which will make a terrible job more tolerable and allow you to be able to expand into better jobs from there. It's much more rewarding than if you try to do something you love but are merely mediocre at. Leave those activities as hobbies so that you don't come to resent them for holding you back or putting you in a position where you can't keep up with the people who are actually good.

    27. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you kidding? Frankly, this is bullshit.

      Honestly, when I preface a statement with "honestly" or "frankly" I mean to put emphasis on the fact that though like most people I may embellish or spatter my statements with white lies, the following statement is actually going to be genuine.

      What you're actually doing is perpetuating the anti-biological ideology of attacking people for their basic human nature (lying a lot) by not allowing them to telegraph that they intend to be truly honest/frank for a moment.

    28. Re:Ask him by GNious · · Score: 1

      I actually got pulled aside after a meeting in Texas and told that the use of these types of expressions meant that there is a lie either before or after the expression.
      Proceeded to give the person a lecture in basic logic, and finished it with the observation that if people in the audience (people from Mexico and the US) fail at basic understanding (and English) it is not really my fault.

      yes, target your presentation at the audience, but people running large businesses requesting a presentation in English should be able to understand, you know, English... and presentations ... and business ... but at least English.

    29. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must have really gotten the shaft then . Two years ago I was hired by a fortune 100 tech company to manage the IT for a local office. I worked happily for 2 years until a certain executive in another country who was a real hands off type of manager, hardly ever talked to anyone and probably knew nothing about technology at all based on his experience and the bad decisions he was making fired said company that was providing tech support but came to me and said how much he wanted to keep me. They basically presented to their bosses that they saved all kinds of money by basically outsourcing my direct bosses job to india, to an inexperienced idiot that barely spoke english and could barely communicate verbally to his peers and people he was supposed to be managing. On top of this, the idiot executive started doing all these supposed "this will make the network more secure" sweeping global decisions that did nothing but create a series of crosses and were basically solutions looking for problems that didn't exist. The last straw was that I started having complaints put against me on my job performance, which had been nothing short of spotless for 2 solid years (by his admission verbally over the phone, if only I would have recorded that conversation) , because the executive guy basically started hiring all kinds of new employees but at the same time put a hold on all pc purchases. It got so ridiculous that people in my offices had been hired for 6 months before they had a computer to work with. This was a slap in the face, on top of the fact that any opportunity for advancement at this company was non-existant seeing as the person managing me makes 5 dollars an hour. I sent a polite email describing the issues I was up against in terms of numbers of hired employees and the number of working PC's that were available in the company foot print to said executive and the response was 1- taken as a resignation letter, 2 it was said to my manager (the indian guy) that I was late all the time which was an outright lie (there is security camera footage to confirm that I was there early every day yet my manager was telling the guy they hired to replace me that I was late every day. The real clincher that makes me just want out of the technical support industry all together is that despite them obviously not being happy with me or my work, (despite me having a graduate degree, 15 years of experience in IT and strong knowledge of the company and the domain of the customer's industry) These idiots hire a tech and give him my personal email address and phone number and have him call me every fucking day asking me questions about , whats going on with this ticket or that ticket.. I helped for a few days and then politely explained to him that I am not being paid to support them anymore, that the executive that had made the decision to terminate me is the person he should be calling and that I would appreciate it if he would not call me any more as I am in a new job and cannot be taking the volume of personal calls at work. In summary , I would be very very leery of your boss, treat him with professionalism, with respect, politeness but for gods sake, record everything, cover your ass and if they pull some dishonest shit like this, sue the ever loving shit out of them without mercy so that their higher up see the legal costs they are incurring and fire them like the liability they are. These execs are out of control these days, they have no honesty, no accountability and they are shall we say, creative with the truth. Be warned you are in an industry where they see you as cattle.

    30. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if he says anything about "reaching out to" anyone or anything, call the HR police immediately!

    31. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "story" my hands tell? Body language is important for about one tenth of fuck all when it comes to technical roles. Or pretty much any role other than marketing or HR.

    32. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who has a supervisor who gets it, and a senior supervisor who doesn't. Having management understand or at least understand that they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground is more than a nice to have. I'm pretty sure I would have quit my job already if the managers were reversed and I had a more incompetent direct boss.

      "No it would not be a good idea to re-write our multi-million dollar financial application that works in .NET just so we can merge it into our CMS."

    33. Re:Ask him by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

      The simple solution here is to have the senior manager in the room WHILE he's interviewing the candidate if that was the case.

      I don't see why you've jumped to the conclusion that a senior manager won't be in the room for some or even all of the process, or why you continue to suspect that senior management wouldn't make or be involved in the hiring decision. I get the impression that you haven't been involved in a lot of hiring or interviewing at this level.

      That said, there are a lot of reasons why a senior manager wouldn't necessarily want or need to sit in on the entire interview. Depending on the size of the company and the responsibilities of the people involved, a senior manager might not have time to sit through an extended, specialized discussion. Some companies have an interview process that extends over several hours, and may even be spread over multiple rounds on separate days. Management may also want to get a sense of how the candidate performs in one-on-one situations, instead of when faced with an interrogation by the senior manager, the senior manager's assistant, the HR rep, and the technical subordinate all at once. For that matter, the senior manager may not want to make the subordinate nervous.

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    34. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without more details, I can only feel sorry for both the people you manage and your family. Sounds like you won't really enjoy either of them.

    35. Re:Ask him by wwfarch · · Score: 1

      That's just messed up. I tend to use those expressions when I'm telling the truth but I don't really want to because it's going to make me look bad to some degree. i.e. "Honestly, I'm not really sure how to solve this problem"

    36. Re:Ask him by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      Actually I have, a senior manager will typically accept recommendations from technical staff unless that person themselves is technical and feels confident that they can estimate the skill of the candidate. So there's a chance, but it's pretty slim that senior management would sway the techies decision on a candidate.

    37. Re:Ask him by FreekyGeek · · Score: 2

      I couldn't agree more. For 20 years I've watched as good, happy technical people turn into lousy, miserable people by going into management. I saw too many stress-related illnesses, too many divorces, too many kids who didn't know their parents, too many people wasting their lives miserable and robotic. I vowed that I would never become one of them, and since then I've turned down every opportiunity to go into management. That's held back my salary, definitely, but I still make twice what the national average household income is, and I'm WAY happier. As the AC said above, why should I waste my life and happiness and free time and mental health working like a dog just so I can have a slightly shinier car or designer clothes? I enjoy living siomply and enjopying the things in life that mean something. Posessions do not make me happy. I've become a Budddhista nd I'm so much happier now that thinsg are in perspective. I honestly feel sorry for folks who can't see the foolishness of chasing maximum dollars at the expense of everything else. Earn enough so you can feed,clothe, and shelter yourself and your family at a reasonable level. Cut out all unnecessary expenses - the satellite radio subscripotion, the daily Starbucks, any car over $25K, the cable sports channels, you'd be amazed at how muchg you can dop without. Get a comfy chair and a library card and relax. Unless there's an absolute emergency I never work over 40 hours. If my boss wants me to work extra hours for free then I'll say to him "OK, when I can I expect you to come over and mow my lawn for free?". I don't buy into the "company loyalty" bullshit - it's a trick to get you to work harder for free. Certainly your company feels no loyalty to YOU.

    38. Re:Ask him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people are comfortable and enjoy managing, others are comfortable and enjoy clacking on a computer.... myself being very much in the latter category. I absolutely can't stand the thought of managing a team and having to deal with interpersonal people problems and office politics, whereas instead I could just do what I love instead.

      My current boss decided to do what he loves, except in this case it's the other way around... He's incompetent at nearly everything he tries to actually do, so he gets off on telling everyone else what to do. He's incompetent at this, as well, in that most of his ideas are so blindingly stupid that nobody else would even consider throwing it at the wall, but at least this way the failures can be ours instead of his (and yes, he claims success without giving credit when we go behind him and do what needs to be done anyway).

    39. Re:Ask him by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      AC, I've got a rule for this, and it seems to have worked fine so far... In the workplace, I try and treat everybody I meet with a clean slate, not everybody is going to like me, and me them, but the goal is to go home in the evening. I have no problem talking to people in person or on the phone, but the moment somebody steps out of line... is rude, a liar (probably chronic), says something / does something else, etc... I make a mental note, have a quick meeting with management to establish that there is an issue, and switch that person over to text only communication, if they call me, I'll talk to them, but ask that they reiterate everything in a ticket and I never commit anything verbally to those people. I've met too many of these types of people in corporate, the question I've always wondered is this how they choose to act, or do they not know any better?

      Also when you say boss & India, it's time to... not put in your 2 weeks, not walk out... RUN OUT OF THAT HOLE. I wouldn't hire somebody from India to work under me, the language barrier alone would make it not worth it.

  2. Be Scientific by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there an SI unit the pointyness of someone's hair?

    1. Re:Be Scientific by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is an SI derived unit, the antidilbert. An antidilbert is measured in radians/gram, i.e. one radian of average pointiness per hair point for each gram of hairgel. This model has been criticized as not sufficiently accommodating managers who are simultaneously incompetent and trendy.

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  3. It depends... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is she hot?

    1. Re:It depends... by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't want that.

      Sure, sounds like it'd be fun, sleeping with the boss and all. At least until you break up.

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    2. Re:It depends... by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      Well I don't know... might be worth it. How's your marketability? :)

    3. Re:It depends... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Well I don't know... might be worth it. How's your marketability? :)

      Is that a euphemism?

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    4. Re:It depends... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he certainly thinks that his market is longer then yours

  4. don't worry about it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you have to tip-top on thin ice that badly, it's probably not a great job. Just be polite and inquisitive!

  5. Who's the boss? by rla3rd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ask him who's the boss? If he says you, give him a big thumbs up!

    1. Re:Who's the boss? by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Funny

      If he says Tony Danza, just get up and walk away.

    2. Re:Who's the boss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if he says Tony? Or Angela?

    3. Re:Who's the boss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Clearly Mona is the boss.

    4. Re:Who's the boss? by shawnhcorey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bruce (who else?)

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    5. Re:Who's the boss? by westlake · · Score: 1

      Ask him who's the boss? If he says you, give him a big thumbs up!

      Oh, God. No.

      That will sink you both.

    6. Re:Who's the boss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, as we learned from Abed on Community, Angela is in fact the boss.

  6. Social questions with a less emphasis on technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd primarily focus on their management related skills with social / personality related questions. This will ultimately boil down to a test of their ability to accept others in their prescribed roles and hopefully not browbeat everyone to align with their form of thinking/management.

  7. Use Yourself for an Example by cusco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Give them an example of situations and ask how they would react. I would choose the biggest mistake that I've made at my current job, and the biggest accomplishment. Their reaction will tell them if you want to work with them supervising you or not. You needn't tell them that this is what you personally did, but you know what an appropriate response to the situation should be and can contrast it to what the actual response was at the time.

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    1. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by hellkyng · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A similar strategy I use a lot of times is ask them a question they don't know the answer to. The purpose of the questions isn't to make them look bad, but to gauge their reaction. For example in some interviews I've asked "Can you define and explain the purpose of ASLR and DEP?" for a technical interview. The answer I'm looking for in this case is "I don't know, but I'll find out." But I've gotten people who got flustered, confused, and worst totally lied.

      Its an interesting strategy I think to find someone with an open mind who can be honest with themselves. You also want to be prepared to provide the answer, and let them know "I didn't expect you to know that, its something you would learn or blah blah blah." Either way the reaction to tough questions is the most valuable tool I have as interviewer I think.

    2. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2

      Those are good questions. I've interviewed 'supervisors' as well in the past and mostly focused on organizational talents.

      Ask them how they would handle a project falling behind schedule. Ask them about how they like to assign projects. Ask them about their philosophies on what to do when budgets are reduced. What their position is on overtime. Etc.

      To the people who are responding "If it's not you quit" you clearly don't understand the role of a project manager--and how that's completely different from a development position. I've seen a lot of producers/PMs who made less than the people they supervised. Just because someone is in charge doesn't mean they're technically a more valuable or senior position.

    3. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by rcamera · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Seems like a bad example. Data Execution Prevention and Address space layout randomization are actually very important depending on your field...

      Maybe the guy who "totally lied" knew what he was talking about and you didn't?

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    4. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by hellkyng · · Score: 1

      Geeze not only did you read the article, but you googled the terms. The point of the example was that you want to ask a question the interviewee can reasonably be expected to not know the answer to. OP should probably choose something relevant to the interview he will be conducting. The question I asked was relevant to an interview I had conducted.

      Its also an extremely bad idea to ask a question you don't know the answer to, logically you will need to be able to determine when an interviewee lies... Its always possible the liar was right and I was wrong, if that was the case then he probably wouldn't have wanted to accept the job offer I didn't make.

    5. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another technique in a similar vein: Describe a scenario involving plenty of what would seem like technobabble to a BS manager past them. (I mean a real-world example you've had involving the technical terms or situation.) You're not looking for the answer, but rather how they react to the messy details of a "doer's" job. Is your manager actually interested in the details that make up your job? Able to converse in the techical language even if they don't understand all the definitions or know the full range? Or are they going to blow past them to give you a BS manager's answer / protect his bonus over your team? Some would say it is not the manager's job to know all that and that's why they hired you, but if they can't understand your work there is no way they can manage you who is doing it.

    6. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by cusco · · Score: 1

      In my position I run into bizarre things that almost no one else ever does. I've been involved in interviewing other people to join my team, and I'll use one of those examples. I'm not looking for them to give me the correct answer, I'm looking at their problem resolution pattern. The best answers go something like,

      "I'd try X"
      That takes about 15 minutes. Didn't work.

      "Then I'd try Y."
      Another 15 minutes, and it didn't work either.

      "OK, I'd try Z."
      That didn't work, you've now spent an hour on this issue.

      "Now it's time to call Tech Support, and probably get Level 2 involved. While I'm on hold I'll run test A and B."
      Of course the weasel who does the hiring doesn't pay much attention to my opinion, but at least I can give an informed one for whatever it's worth.

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    7. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ALSR, DEP? I'm sorry, I don't know much about digital photography. Can we talk about the position again?

    8. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by kubajz · · Score: 1

      Or better yet - ask them about a mistake or accomplishment that you think might happen to you a year or two down the line. If/when it comes to that situation, if that person is your boss they will have a clear guideline for how to react... and probably one that you will like.

    9. Re:Use Yourself for an Example by Nevynxxx · · Score: 1

      It's also amazing how long it often takes before the phrase "I'd look at the logs" come out, or something like it.

  8. Important question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "On a scale of one to ten, are you a douchebag?"

    1. Re:Important question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "One a scale of one to ten, a question with a yes/no answer."

    2. Re:Important question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a scale of one to ten, I'm not a douchebag.
      Does this qualifies?

    3. Re:Important question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...are you a douchebag?"

      Yes...? One?

  9. My favorite questions for the boss by hduff · · Score: 2

    What is your management style?

    What are your job priorities?

    How do you think I can help you?

    Take notes, because none of their answers will be truthful.

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    "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
    1. Re:My favorite questions for the boss by hchaos · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Based on what you know about me so far, and the fact that I'm a decision-maker in your hiring process, how much of a raise do you think I deserve right now?"

    2. Re:My favorite questions for the boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is your management style?

      What are your job priorities?

      How do you think I can help you?

      Take notes, because none of their answers will be truthful.

      I was going to post something scathing until I read the last line of your post.

      You're dead right. Asking the earlier questions will not get you a truthful answer at all. Remember who you're interviewing here. He/she is a "boss". A "manager". One of the biggest qualities any manager can have is that of playing the part of politician, in this case it's corporate politics rather than governmental but it amounts to the same thing.

      When you ask those questions, all you'll hear are the answers you want to hear, and not the actual truth.

  10. you are crazy by datapharmer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't hire your boss, find a different job! The idea that someone is qualified to hire their own superior is so asinine that it could only come out of a corporate red-tape nightmare so awful it is doomed to an epic fail. If the company had any idea about how to manage whatsoever then they would either have someone higher-up the ladder do the hiring or move someone qualified up from within. Run! Run now! Run fast!

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    1. Re:you are crazy by i.r.id10t · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I disagree - and I'm in the same boat. We've had a few search cycles now, in our 3rd. First two ended due to a lack of qualified candidates.

      Of our 8 person department, 2 of us are on the hiring committee. Other department chairs and AVPs make up the balance.

      And yes, we need to be on the committee because we know what we do every day, and areas our prior boss both lacked and excelled in. We're hoping to keep the excelling part and get rid of the lacking part.

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    2. Re:you are crazy by Motard · · Score: 3, Informative

      He said interview, not hire. It's generally a good policy to get many people involved in the interviewing process.

    3. Re:you are crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or you would be promoted to be the boss. If you're qualified to interview someone, then you are also good enough to be the boss.

    4. Re:you are crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen brotha, run like the wind out of there -

    5. Re:you are crazy by JonniLuv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't hire your boss, find a different job! The idea that someone is qualified to hire their own superior is so asinine that it could only come out of a corporate red-tape nightmare so awful it is doomed to an epic fail. If the company had any idea about how to manage whatsoever then they would either have someone higher-up the ladder do the hiring or move someone qualified up from within. Run! Run now! Run fast!

      In converse, I'd say if you aren't qualified to interview a potential future manager, you have some serious deficiencies in life skills. This practice is against the status-quo of corporate red tape practices. Also in direct contradiction to your statement, I'd say that always having people higher up the ladder do the interviewing is one of the causes of hiring bad managers, and having direct reports participate in the process is part of a good solution the problem.

    6. Re:you are crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If the company had any idea about how to manage whatsoever then they would either have someone higher-up the ladder do the hiring or move someone qualified up from within.

      Says someone who thinks he is qualified to decide how upper management should handle hiring decisions, but isn't qualified to give an opinion on a possible new boss. Bonus points for jumping to the assumption that the new boss isn't being hired from within the company despite the complete lack of evidence that this is the case.

      He's not being asked to hire his boss. He's being asked to interview his boss. This quite is different. Hiring someone who looks good on paper as a manager, but who will be intolerable to work for is a serious issue. Do you know of a better way to find out if the people the new boss will be managing will find said new boss intolerable? If so, please name it.

    7. Re:you are crazy by dywolf · · Score: 1

      being part of a search committee is different than being the sole guy responsible for picking your boss.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    8. Re:you are crazy by buybuydandavis · · Score: 1

      Also in direct contradiction to your statement, I'd say that always having people higher up the ladder do the interviewing is one of the causes of hiring bad managers, and having direct reports participate in the process is part of a good solution the problem.

      It's good not to just improve the evaluation process, but to start with buy in for the direct reports.

    9. Re:you are crazy by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

      Except the way we do it the committee does all the interviews, etc. and then sends forward a recommendation... if hte Big Boss agrees, the offer is made. The Big Boss doesn't see anyone we don't pass on to him/her.

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      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
    10. Re:you are crazy by gtall · · Score: 1

      The flip side of that is a dork actually makes it through and proceeds to shit on and/or fire all the interviewers that made him feel uncomfortable. I think the downside also needs to be considered.

    11. Re:you are crazy by ZeroPly · · Score: 1

      Yes and no. I doubt that the submitter will have a majority vote in selecting a supervisor. If you choose a laid back dude who's a technical God, but thinks sexual harrassment is overstated and drinking on the job is cool, sorry, your vote probably doesn't count for much.

      I get the impression here that the people higher up on the food chain are looking for vetoes, not votes of confidence. They are looking for the submitter to weed out the pointy haired boss types who don't understand technical concepts. But unless you're in management, you're really not in a position to point at someone and scream "I want him!"

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    12. Re:you are crazy by Chillas · · Score: 1

      This is an insane statement devoid of logic or fact.

      Managing is its own skill set. I am perfectly qualified to hire my own manager, and in fact have done so several times always with success. I am capable of managing if need be, but I really do not wish to do so. As a result I'm quite happy to let someone else deal with that headache.

      As for the OP, I suggest two things. I'd suggest asking them what they view their top priority as your manager to be. The correct answer is something on the lines of supporting his/her team. I also have had great success is asking slightly off-the-wall questions - for instance, I've asked candidates to give me a good reason to not hire them. I use those questions as a truth test. If they actually think about the question and give something of an honest answer, they've passed. If they give some corporate BS non-answer, move on, you don't want them.

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      --- Math illiteracy affects 8 out of every 5 people.
    13. Re:you are crazy by Thugthrasher · · Score: 1

      That's just wrong. I have employees who would need to be in on the interview to replace me. They aren't qualified to do my job (you don't actually have to know statistics to be an IT Support Specialist, as an example...management is only a portion of my job), but they would A) need to be able to interact with the person who replaces me and B)need to be there to help confirm answers to any technical questions that get asked. My boss doesn't know enough to judge the answers to some of the questions someone in my position would need to know and he'd prefer to hire someone who knows what they are doing.

  11. Details? by mws1066 · · Score: 1

    You're very sparing with the details here. What do you do that is technical? If you're a sole technical person in a non-technical office, I assume this means you're IT. Why exactly are you interviewing someone to be your supervisor? How did this happen? Are you being forced to have a supervisor because management wants to reign you in? So many unknowns. Why wouldn't management make you the supervisor and get you to hire underlings if they feel they need more bodies? This reeks badly of a top-heavy organization.

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    Nothing is more dangerous than a programmer with a screwdriver.
    1. Re:Details? by Thugthrasher · · Score: 1

      My guess is that it's like a position I've worked before. You have your IT guy who needs to know all the technical stuff and he, of course, has to have a boss (everyone has to have a supervisor except CEOs and people at very small businesses, that's just life). Now, this boss likely supervises multiple people and the IT guy is only one of them. In these cases, the boss doesn't need to know everything about IT, but he needs to know enough to adequately manage said IT guy.

      Alternatively, this could be a situation like one my friend is in. He does web development and everyone else in his office is in sales. He helps out sometimes if they need computer help, but he mostly just does his web development (the main office actually handles most of the IT stuff, they are a satellite office). His boss (again, he has a boss, what a shocker) has to know enough about the tools he uses for web development to accurately judge his performance, have some idea of what is reasonably possible in a reasonable amount of time, and potentially hire my friend's replacement if he leaves. He doesn't have to be an expert, he just has to be familiar (or technically savvy enough to BECOME familiar).

    2. Re:Details? by Uzuri · · Score: 1

      Thugthrasher, you nailed it, just replace "Sales" with "Communications" (subtle, subtle difference).

      This is a setup that's becoming a bit more common; the web dev acts as a translator between IT and their embedded office while strictly supporting their embedded office. It works well, but it does result in some interesting issues for t'boss.

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  12. How do you evaluate performance? by ibsteve2u · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you evaluate performance based upon specific goals - that is, lines of code/subroutines/class modules/interfaces/boards/prototypes/thingamabobs built, or something more ethereal, like how well I kiss ass?

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    Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
    1. Re:How do you evaluate performance? by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      This question is impossible to answer truthfully . This really depends on the hiring manager's style noy the supervisor or mid level manager's preference.

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    2. Re:How do you evaluate performance? by ibsteve2u · · Score: 1

      This question is impossible to answer truthfully

      Snicker. Guess you told us how you'd answer it - if you answered it truthfully.

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      Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
    3. Re:How do you evaluate performance? by cusco · · Score: 1

      And **THAT** is the correct answer.

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    4. Re:How do you evaluate performance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would loudly claim and tell everyone that I'll be doing it based on lines of code or some stupid metric.
      After a week I'll review the code to see who is doing a good job and who is just padding lines. Bonus points for those that objected to it from the beginning.

      That should make most characters clear in a very short time. Those that didn't object and started gaming the system would get on the 'supervise regularly and closely' list and those that objected get on the 'they know what they are doing, keep out of their way' list.

    5. Re:How do you evaluate performance? by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      In a manner of speaking but i would never be truthful in that situation. Its a trap.

      Hiring manager is looking for you to strung along employee, employee looking for kick-ass answer.

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  13. Suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pick a few and ask them to elaborate their role, what they did, etc regarding skills and experiences they list in their resume.
    Ask them how their previous co-workers and subordinates would describe them.
    Pick some scenarios you have encountered that you wish you had a supervisor to handle and ask the person how they would handle the situation.

  14. You're in a hardplace - dude. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything else will be deemed as potential insubordination. It's a fine balance in appearing honest and not being insulting.

    This is a really shitty position.

    If they say that they want "Honesty" they are lying.

    Go ahead you stupid fuck and tell me that folks want honesty! You dumb fucker!

    See my point? I was too harsh, but I was trying to make a point.

  15. Once you get past competency by mooingyak · · Score: 2

    The pain in the ass about interviews is that nearly everybody is looking to please, and trying their damnedest to give the answer that they think you want to hear.

    So you need sort of roundabout ways to get to the questions you *really* want answered. But before you even get that far, you need to figure out what qualities you'd like to see in a boss.

    For me at least, the ideal boss is:
    1. competent
    2. professional
    3. willing to shield me from the political BS that is part of his job
    4. knows when to leave me alone (most of the time) and when to get on my case (once in a while)
    5. understands what I do and the value of it, even if he can't necessarily do it himself
    6. knows what I'm better suited to accomplish than he is, and is willing to leave those tasks/decisions to me

    There's more, but that covers a good chunk of the basics. That list might suit you, but then again you might have something totally different in mind. The important thing is to have some clue of what you're looking for first. As far getting to know whether or not a potential supervisor has these traits, the best generic way I know of is to ask about prior experience and how he's handled specific scenarios.

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    1. Re:Once you get past competency by Renraku · · Score: 1

      This. There are two major schools of thought in management: One is that managers should ride everyone's ass because as soon as the manager leaves their field of view they're going to be playing solitaire and wasting company money, the other is that all they themselves should have to do is relay orders from Up Above and then fire up solitaire themselves.

      In reality, management is a logistical position. Their job is to make sure orders get relayed, everyone is cool with it (aka that it is well within their possibility to complete as requested), make sure people are keeping up to performance standards, and making sure everyone gets what they need to do their jobs. That's it. Unfortunately, it does usually require a little 'power' to do this, which is what quickly goes to peoples' heads. Instead of being logistical, they see themselves as the ones doing the REAL work. That's why you get those companies with departments consisting solely of middle management. They'll all stand around yelling at each other to take the garbage out and it'll never get done.

      Financial companies and the like are the worst. My friend's department consists of four workers and EIGHT bosses. The workers bring in ~90% of the revenue for the team, the bosses go on expensive trips and bitch that their department isn't making enough revenue.

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      Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
    2. Re:Once you get past competency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . That's why you get those companies with departments consisting solely of middle management. They'll all stand around yelling at each other to take the garbage out and it'll never get done.

      Dude, just use Java. Automatic garbage collection for the win!

  16. What are you qualified to evaluate? by quietwalker · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a software dev, and I could do a decent evaluation for anyone from architect down to data-entry, but I don't know that there's anything in my background or skill set that would mark me as being especially able to evaluate a manager based on their day to day duties.

    That being said, what I could look for that's important for my manager to have that affects MY day to day duties - which is going to be the minority of what they do - is awareness of the technical processes, awareness of technical limitations, and a reasonable shot from the hip estimate of costs and risk they think a given task will require.

    I have had managers who have asked me to get a remote server with no external access email us when they or their internet connection goes down. I've had folks who don't understand that if I push a change of a major subsystem directly into production after working on it for only a few hours, it could very well take down all customers. In many cases, these folks won't be able to justify or even consider the costs for refactors, or for separate test environments, but it's a little late after they've told their boss's boss they'll hit the deadline and now you're on the hook for it.

    Beyond those things, just check to see if his management style gels with how your company like to work. Some folks like teams, some like seclusion. Some managers are hands on, some are hands off. Some like rigid project plans, others prefer desk drive-bys. Make sure that their style is good for your company, and for you.

    1. Re:What are you qualified to evaluate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >asked me to get a remote server with no external access email us when they or their internet connection goes down

      You should be able to do all of that without access if you think about it.

    2. Re:What are you qualified to evaluate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That being said, what I could look for that's important for my manager to have that affects MY day to day duties - which is going to be the minority of what they do - is awareness of the technical processes, awareness of technical limitations, and a reasonable shot from the hip estimate of costs and risk they think a given task will require.

      Agreed.
      * A good boss will try to clear your path of mindless and administrative impediments so that you can do your job.
      * A mediocre boss will want you to take care of the mindless and administrative tasks yourself.
      * A bad boss will not only want you to take care of your mindless and administrative tasks but also to provide him/her with help on the tasks they should be taking care of.
      * A micro-manager will "helpfully" look over your shoulder and provide "inputs" on how you take care of all these tasks.

  17. What's the motivation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My big question is why are you having to interview the person whose going to be your direct supervisor? I would ask the person that the interviewee will report to what's the motivation for asking you to interview him/her. On a different note, did you yourself apply for this position, or wanted to apply for this position?

    1. Re:What's the motivation? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I'd guess the motivation is to find out whether he'd work well under that boss. If you absolutely can't stand your boss, your work will suffer, no matter how excellent you are otherwise.

      However another possibility could be to prevent later complaints, since by participating in the selection process, you also participate in the responsibility for the outcome, and thus it's somehow also your fault if things don't work well later.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  18. what's your fuckin' problem, mate? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    What mental disability do you have that makes you think you're capable of micro-managing something that you have not comprehension of?

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:what's your fuckin' problem, mate? by sourcerror · · Score: 1

      I have multiple personality disorder, and some of my personalities are very good at what you do.

  19. Behavioral Testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't ask questions, I would look for behaviors.

    I've used this trick: take them to lunch. If their order is incredibly detailed and controlling -> major warning sign.

    Now, pre-arrange for your server to screw up their order. If they are an absolute asshole at the server about it, and especially if they belittle the server, walk away. There's a good chance you have a sociopath on your hands.

    It's important not to encourage or discourage them: let them demonstrate natural behaviors. An interview is an unnatural situation, and lots of people are highly trained to show their "nice" face. What you need to see is their natural behavior, because as your boss, that's the behavior you'll be facing when they're above you. A sociopath will only be nice to people who can benefit him or her, and your window of opportunity for that ends with your recommendation about hiring them.

  20. the question to ask is by sdnoob · · Score: 2

    why the fuck aren't YOU being considered for the position?

    if you're qualified to interview and evaluate candidates for that position, you yourself must also be qualified -- even more so because you are already an employee there, know the company, its policies, procedures, customers and other workers.....

    1. Re:the question to ask is by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Maybe the manager will be overseeing multiple departments, and the submitter only represents one department. Also, being good at following instructions is not equivalent to being good at delivering them and managing people. Also, maybe the submitter is; that was never ruled out. Also, maybe the submitter already turned down the position because of the stress, current commitment to work on certain projects, et cetera. There are plenty of reasons why an individual would be in this situation, and most of them are fairly obvious. You sound like you need a vacation, or a promotion, or both.

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    2. Re:the question to ask is by alexander_686 · · Score: 2

      The reason why most teams fails is because of culture issues, not technically issues. The wrong person can destroy a team just as well as a incompetent boss.

      I assume the poster’s upper management only hires talented people and respects the poster’s opinion. I don’t see where the poster said they had decision making power or a veto. I assume that their opinion will be consider along with other factors.

      One of my worst job experiences was with a highly competent accountant. She managed 14 accountants and 1 tech person – myself. The expectations that we set up for each other were radically different and we would talk past each other for hours on end.

    3. Re:the question to ask is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the submitter is an IT guy but the boss is the office manager. So he has to do more than make sure the computers run. Also, not everyone wants their boss's job.

    4. Re:the question to ask is by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 1

      why the fuck aren't YOU being considered for the position?

      I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be the boss. Approving time sheets and attending manager meetings and balancing budgets sounds freaking awful.

      I'd rather do things than manage them.

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      I went to eat some animal crackers and the box said, "Do not eat if seal is broken." I opened the box and sure enough..
    5. Re:the question to ask is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why the fuck aren't YOU being considered for the position?

      if you're qualified to interview and evaluate candidates for that position, you yourself must also be qualified -- even more so because you are already an employee there, know the company, its policies, procedures, customers and other workers.....

      Not everyone wants to be a manager. I've let my bosses know that I'll be happy to perform higher duties in an acting role any time it's required, but that I want to stay technical. It's a different job.

    6. Re:the question to ask is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he only represents one facet of the review process: Can underlings tolerate this guy?

    7. Re:the question to ask is by cusco · · Score: 1

      you yourself must also be qualified

      Umm, no. Not just 'no', but 'no fucking way no'. I'm very good at what I do, I'm not good at getting other people to do things. I would absolutely suck as a manager, especially since managing my work group is like herding ermine who have been set on fire.

      My wife manages groups of up to 40 people at a time, all of them doing different projects with different time frames, requiring different skill levels and different training sets. She couldn't do my job, and there is no way in hell that I could do hers.

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
  21. ask about outside interests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Family, what town they live in, hobbies, vacations, favorite music, recreational reading.

    This will generally take their guard down and can give clues about what their values are. Not just their literal answers, but how they present them and any which they give added emphasis. For example, if they keep bragging on a son for their athletic or academic achievements, this could be a competitive type who cares a lot about climbing the corporate ladder.

    1. Re:ask about outside interests by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      > Family

      Minefield, and irrelevant to the job. You find out they have a same-sex partner, for example, don't hire them for some completely unrelated reason, and get sued.

      > For example, if they keep bragging on a son for their athletic or academic achievements, this could be a competitive type who cares a lot about climbing the corporate ladder.

      No, don't do this. Your inferences may be wildly off. You might hire a real slacker who is just really proud of his/her kids. Quit trying to be an amateur psychologist or detective. There are a lot of people who think they can do this sort of thing, and a lot of them are wrong.

  22. get server to screw can end up very badly for all by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    get server to screw can end up very badly for all.

    Let's say some has a allergic reaction and the server does not know that but does the screw up as part of the test .

    Also some people have religion based dietary laws

  23. Ob. Ted joke by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    "Where do you see yourself in five years?"
    "Doin' your wife."

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    Operation Guillotine is in effect.
  24. Oh - one more thing: by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reject any management candidate who has job-hopping in their history. If they spent less than 2 years or so in their last three positions and the companies they worked for are still around, odds are good there's a reason behind all that shuffling, and it indicates that said manager never really got to know his or her team that well.

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    1. Re:Oh - one more thing: by Synerg1y · · Score: 3, Informative

      Contractors are an exclusion to this, though often not managers, some project managers fall into this category. Coming on-site executing a successful project and then doing it again at a different site requires way more managerial skills and organization than a guy that's been getting fat at his corp for the last decade.

  25. not important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It might seem as a big thing now; but remember it is not important to have a good relationship with your boss. It is much more important to have a good relationship to the boss of your boss.

  26. Have you ever been in a turkish prison? by tresstatus · · Score: 1

    Just ask all of the questions from airplane.

    --
    stephen
  27. "Work to Live" or "Live to Work"? by JD-1027 · · Score: 1

    Figure out some questions to get an honest feel for what they enjoy besides their job. Do they "live to work" or "work to live"? Figure out which of those options applies to you and determine which you'd like more in a boss.

    My current boss is way better of a technical manager than my last, but has no life outside of work. So while I have a much easier time agreeing on technical solutions than I did with my previous manager, my previous manager and I had the same feeling of "get out of work ASAP and enjoy life". While my new boss does everything she can to keep me at work to get as much out of me as possible.

  28. Legality by Ashenkase · · Score: 1

    What's out of bounds?"

    I hope you have had a bit of training on the legal in's and out's of interviewing. Asking an illegal question in an interview can be a liability to the entire company. e.g.- How old are you, I noticed an accent, are you from Timbucktwo? Do you have any kids?

    Depending on which state/province/country you live in the legal rules can be very different, brush up on them so you yourself don't get fired.

  29. Where are we? by bbands · · Score: 1

    Is /. becoming loaded with Dice.

    1. Re:Where are we? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This post was removed due to Dice content standards violations.

  30. Blackmail by doginthewoods · · Score: 1

    Pick someone you can blackmail...

    --
    Republican leadership = Idiocracy
  31. Ask him if he knows what is a PHB

    1. Re:PHB by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Ask him if he knows what is a PHB

      If he corrects your English, hire him.

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
    2. Re:PHB by Pascal+Sartoretti · · Score: 1

      Ask him if he knows what is a PHB

      If he corrects your English, hire him.

      Sorry, English is not my mother tongue. Care to correctly rephrase my sentence ? I first wrote it with "whether" instead of "if", but I think I would have needed to add "or not" at the end.

    3. Re:PHB by Thugthrasher · · Score: 1

      Ask him if he knows what is a PHB

      If he corrects your English, hire him.

      Sorry, English is not my mother tongue. Care to correctly rephrase my sentence ? I first wrote it with "whether" instead of "if", but I think I would have needed to add "or not" at the end.

      Since you seem to want to learn, I believe what you are trying to say is:
      "Ask him if he knows what a PHB is." OR "Ask him whether or not he knows what a PHB is."

  32. Subversivet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like it!

    Hi! I'm an MBA. I am a jerkwad that all of you hate.

    I was a developer who went to the dark side.

    Watch out for stupid questions.

    If the questions don't pertain to the job - or the project - watch out.

    Examples of incompetent management:

    Where do you see yourself in 5 years?

    What are your passions? (Or questions along this line.)

    Or any questions that questions your ability to do the job.

    End stupid question examples

    As an entrepreneur, I don't want passion. I want cold hard logic.

    Passion is for your loved ones. I want cold logic.

    Faking it for the job? OK. No problem. Do your job and STFU.

    Thank you.

    1. Re:Subversivet by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2

      As an entrepreneur, I don't want passion. I want cold hard logic.

      Cold hard logic is how you do it. Passion is why you do it. If you don't have passion, you must have another motive for doing it (or otherwise the cold hard logic would tell you not to do it). However if you have primary motivation (i.e. passion) to do something, you tend to do better work than if you have only secondary motivation (e.g. you only do it to earn a lot of money). Also, if you don't have passion, you are more likely to leave early for a better job if things don't go well, while with passion, you are more likely to try to fix things.

      Of course too much passion may also be bad, in that you might not be able to let a failed project end. As in most cases, both extrema are bad, and the best point is somewhere in the middle.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    2. Re:Subversivet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course too much passion may also be bad, in that you might not be able to let a failed project end. As in most cases, both extrema are bad, and the best point is somewhere in the middle.

      Are you passionate?

      Mostly

      Somehow that doesn't have a ring to it. Somewhat passionate seems to be something of an enigma.

  33. Ask him this by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    "A valuable employee leaves your group. You get a call from an employer verifying period of employment. What do you say?"

    Follow up with: "An employee with unsatisfactory performance leaves your group. You get a call from an employer verifying period of employment. What do you say?"

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    1. Re:Ask him this by EvilJoker · · Score: 1

      A LOT of companies have a formal, written policy to not say anything but employment dates. Many won't even answer if they would hire the person again.

      But it would be fun if they did this: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2005-10-08/

    2. Re:Ask him this by cusco · · Score: 1

      In most companies the only reply allowed for either question is, "They worked here from Date-X to Date-Y." A lot of companies won't even allow supervisors to give a personal recommendation even if they're your best friend outside of work, much less a work recommendation. The legal liability for that has gotten ridiculous.

      --
      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    3. Re:Ask him this by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      In most companies the only reply allowed for either question is, "They worked here from Date-X to Date-Y." A lot of companies won't even allow supervisors to give a personal recommendation even if they're your best friend outside of work, much less a work recommendation. The legal liability for that has gotten ridiculous.

      It was a real world question. I worked for a manager who, three months after he started, called us into a meeting and told us point blank that we would never transfer out of his department, and that if we quit he'd do what he could to prevent us getting a job elsewhere. He then gave a demonstration of how one could use tone of voice and marginally allowed language to answer the question and give either a positive or negative impression of an ex-employee and still remain within the letter of the law.

      It was a total dominance game, and thank Fudd I don't work for him anymore, but it serves to indicate that there is wiggle room in the law as it stands, and people willing to exploit that. You probably don't want to work for a person who would do this, as there are probably other traits you won't like. For instance, a manager that uses the first two or three months to be friendly, seemingly open, and interested in their employee's personal life. Then using that information against his employees at a later time. It was a learning experience.

      --
      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  34. I interviewed my previous boss... by DrewBeavis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my previous position, I wasn't on the committee, per se, but gave an operational tour to each candidate and tried to explain what we did and our job functions. One candidate didn't seem to pay much attention and was eliminated because he wanted too much money. Another candidate thought he knew more than I did about our operations since he had glanced at our website and walked around the building before the interview. The third candidate was able to understand what I was saying to him and asked good questions about what we did. This casual back and forth was helpful in assessing his demeanor and grasp of technology. He was a manager, so he wasn't actively managing servers and such, but knew what I was talking about and not just buzzwords. I was able to recommend him to the committee and I left his department seven years later with a good reference. Things that stand out to me about people, especially managers: proper dress, profanity during the conversation, excessive sarcasm, and any hints of poor anger management. I may be old school, but I want a manager that doesn't yell or swear at me during our interactions and isn't sarcastic.

    1. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by HornWumpus · · Score: 0

      Proper dress? Seriously? That's first on your list?

      Hint: They sell suits to anybody with the money.

      Casual fucking cussing is fine by me. The only real question is the 'Anger management' one. Which you will never get to during an interview anyhow.

      Also note: Sarcasm. You do want a boss with a sense of humor and low tolerance for incompetence (assuming you are competent). Otherwise the god damn care bear will have you surrounded by air thieves.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    2. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Things that stand out to me about people, especially managers: proper dress, profanity during the conversation, excessive sarcasm, and any hints of poor anger management. I may be old school, but I want a manager that doesn't yell or swear at me during our interactions and isn't sarcastic. "

      100% right. If I had moderator points, I would have marked your post Insightful.

    3. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      proper dress, profanity during the conversation, excessive sarcasm, and any hints of poor anger management.

      So I get that proper dress would rule someone out as manager, just as profanity, excessive sarcasm and hints of poor anger management would? :-)

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    4. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Proper dress" does not have mean suit, but dress does indicate whether someone cares about themselves and if they don't care about themselves why would you matter? Overdressed, ie cares too much about their appearances could also count against someone. If the candidate does not have clean clothes, or has damaged clothes for an interview is a bad sign. A stained suit might get counted as worse than a smart t-shirt and a good neat pair of genes.

    5. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Things that stand out to me about people, especially managers: proper dress, profanity during the conversation, excessive sarcasm, and any hints of poor anger management. I may be old school, but I want a manager that doesn't yell or swear at me during our interactions and isn't sarcastic. "

      100% right. If I had moderator points, I would have marked your post Insightful.

      /sarcasm

    6. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Proper dress? Seriously? That's first on your list?

      We are not talking about what he might wear to the office day-to-day. It's what he's wearing when he knows he's on display. Doesn't have to be a suit, but it shouldn't be excessively out-of-place. If so, he probably lacks the ability to notice other things, like when his "unique style" is actually scaring people. Had this happen once, a hardcore ex-military type "motivated" my team. I, being ex-military too, recognized it as a motivation speech, but about half my peers thought he was furious.

      Casual fucking cussing is fine by me.

      It's fine by me too, but it's not fine during an interview. Nor is it fine when meeting the bride and groom at a wedding, nor a funeral, and not in a dozen or more other situations. Knowing when to let one's hair down is just as important as the ability to do so. If he cusses at an interview, he lacks the ability to know how it will be received. Do you really want a lifelong pal that you've known for fifteen minutes? Ditch him.

      The only real question is the 'Anger management' one. Which you will never get to during an interview anyhow.

      You would be surprised. Perhaps you haven't been in enough interviews. Had one where the driving/parking behaviours of "someone else" obviously was still on his mind (and lips). Had a few that talked over your questions, and after having the questions repeated in completion got irritated that we were asking the same stuff. Some people can manage themselves, some can't.

      Also note: Sarcasm. You do want a boss with a sense of humor and low tolerance for incompetence (assuming you are competent). Otherwise the god damn care bear will have you surrounded by air thieves.

      A sense of humor manifests itself in many ways. Effective sarcasm requires shared experiences with the audience. Personally I don't think we've moved in the same circles enough to even know what you mean by that last sentence. A person getting interviewed is likely in the same boat.

    7. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a good neat pair of genes.

      Racist!

    8. Re:I interviewed my previous boss... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      My first job out of school was working for a Marine.

      He was pretty limited. Never did get that he couldn't send me to Leavenworth for quitting. He wasn't cutout for civilian life.

      I for one will test prospective employers with humor in the interview. If they don't get it, I don't want to work for them. I know I'm testing for common views and attitudes.

      The fact is there are several schools of management thought. I work for and with engineers. If a company is run by and for the marketing department the sooner I know, the better.

      I imagine marketers from places like insurance companies (where they run the joint) don't want to work someplace where the product makes the sale (or doesn't).

      I will never again work for a douche-bag (Marine mentioned earlier) who thinks engineering telling him something is impossible is the 'tail wagging the dog'. I am on alert to such attitudes. Past experience and all.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  35. Re:get server to screw can end up very badly for a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The screw up should be something like /forgetting/ a topping/side/etc. or /overcooking/ a steak then.

  36. If they're threatened, you don't want them by clawsoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If a candidate finds technical questions threatening or condescending, you probably don't want them as your boss. You want someone who's okay with the fact that you have more technical knowledge than they do, but is still able to speak (and listen) intelligently about technical subjects.

  37. Re:get server to screw can end up very badly for a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The point of the exercise isn't to trick the candidate into getting the wrong food, it's to see how they handle mistakes.

    If they blindly trust that their directions were followed even if a failing could result in their death you don't want to hire them. So problem solved?

    If they are cruel to the staff than they will likely be cruel to their subordinates and you don't want to hire them.

    If they are too timid to speak up they will not be effective at their position and should not be hired.

    If and only if they recognize the mistake, politely explain the issue and ask for it to be corrected, have they passed the test.

  38. How about... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    How about "what makes you think that you would be better for this position?" or "Do you really want to work for a company that has no qualms about bringing somebody with no knowledge in to be a supervisor rather than promote someone from within?" After all, it may work out well this time for the interviewee, but the next outside placement they do may be HIS (or HER) boss.

    --
    If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
  39. I've done this before by Ben4jammin · · Score: 2

    I was actually the only member of the IT dept in the interviews for our Director of IT position some years back. I was also the only person involved in the process that was not on the existing executive management team.
    I think a lot of it depends on who else is in the room. If there are any other department heads involved, note closely their interaction with YPNB (your potential new boss). I found that to be quite telling in that you see what is important to them, and if YPNB has any intelligence, they will pick up on what is expected of them and what the others are looking for. By being involved in this, I was able to pretty much garner what projects we would be working on during the first 6 months after he was hired.

    As others have stated, HR or someone else may run the show. The only thing you might want to consider is this: if YPNB requests a laptop or projector for any type of presentation, hook it up, but do something wrong (leave a plug loose etc). See how YPNB reacts to the unexpected and how the interaction goes when either they or you "fix" the problem. I don't know of any other way to really get a read, because any questions from HR (or you) are likely to be met with "correct" answers.

    Also, with the boss I ended up with, we had a laptop setup and he wanted to show something off a thumb drive. At that time, the NIC port was wide enough that you could put a USB drive in it. He did. And so I went to the laptop, noticed what he did, and quickly put it in a USB port without saying anything. He showed his stuff, and ended up getting hired. He was nervous about the interview, but was very gracious about the whole thing. He is still my boss today (6 years later) and while not perfect, we could have done a lot worse. He was a unanimous choice (they even let me vote).

    1. Re:I've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/YPNB/YNPHB/g

      ftfy

    2. Re:I've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And so I went to the laptop, noticed what he did, and quickly put it in a USB port without saying anything. He showed his stuff, and ended up getting hired. He was nervous about the interview, but was very gracious about the whole thing.

      Interviews are a vulnerable time. The soft skill of accepting help gracefully in an embarrassing situation is very telling of whether you're working with a decent human being. Sure, make them pass the technical stuff, but don't forget you want to work for a decent human being.

    3. Re:I've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At that time, the NIC port was wide enough that you could put a USB drive in it.

      Aren't they still the same width as a regular USB plug?

  40. Re:get server to screw can end up very badly for a by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    The server isn't stupid. They know the difference between forgetting 'dressing on the side' and killing someone.

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  41. Do you read dilbert? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Ask the boss that and if he does not say part of it are manual on what not to do.

    1. Re:Do you read dilbert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But before you do this, take a good look at his hair. That should tell you enough. Also, if he's from Elbonia that's usually a bad sign.

  42. the answer is "I don't know" by spatley · · Score: 1

    The trick to managing technical people is knowing what you don't know and allowing technical experts do their job without infuriating them with stupid questions.
    -- ask some technical questions, make sure at least a few the candidate will not know the answer to. If they fake it rather than saying "I don't know" PASS
    -- give a situation to deal with (the server is down) and ask "what do you want me to do?" if it is anything other than "fix it and let me know the details only after you are done" PASS

  43. Here's one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, the first question is whether the person might be someone who could make your life miserable or not.

    The person who would not might e.g. be a very caring, easygoing person who has no idea about computers but is fully prepared to let you do your stuff.

    In that case you don't want to challenge them with technical or difficult questions, which might get their back up. So I think you should think about different types of questions you could ask to different types of people.

    If it's someone intelligent/aggressive/experienced/hands-on who MIGHT make your life miserable, then how about:

    "Okay, here is a difficult one. Let's say you come into the office and notice that the company webpage on www.____.com suddenly is not available. You ask me why that is. What do you think are some different answers I might give you, and how would you react to each?"

    It's a tough nut and could potentially get the back up of someone who knows nothing of IT, but any answers would speak volumes.

    Also it's important to know how important your input will be into the process. If you are the decision maker then you can afford to be a bit more direct and questioning than if (as I'm used to) the hire is already a done deal by upper ups.

  44. Quit Now! by endus · · Score: 1

    Start looking for another job. In my experience having another manager come in to the group is always a disaster. I've never had it go well, and that's WITH new managers who seemed to think I was doing a great job.

    1. Re:Quit Now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "having another manager come in to the group is always a disaster"

      Maybe the problem isn't the managers?

  45. Do you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Want to sell sugared water for the rest of your life? Or do you want to come with me and change the world?

  46. list of questions by HPHatecraft · · Score: 2

    Do you understand the acronym "PEBKAC"?
    Connery or Moore?
    Episodes IV-VI or I-III?
    Shirt or skins?
    Can I have a raise?
    I said "CAN I HAVE A RAISE?"

    1. Re:list of questions by nu1x · · Score: 1

      You forgot the most important one: "when you hang a roll of toilet paper, does it face...." !

      --
      I have nothing to lose but my bindings.
  47. Scenario Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ask scenario questions. Here's my favorite:

    You're the new manager on a project, and the previous manager has moved on. It's a team of about a half-dozen programmers. The first release has gone out, and the software works, but a lot of corners were cut, and developers are having a hard time working around the existing architecture. One of the developers has re-factored a major part of the project, and by all accounts, done an excellent job, and it's made the other developers' lives much easier. On the other hand, this has caused him to be behind in his feature set, and it won't be able to make a previously set ship date, which is close enough that "just a lot of hard work" isn't going to be able to make it. He ran this refactoring past the other developers in the team, and they were for it, but he didn't run it past you. You're going to have to explain it to management, and get a delay from some major customers, who have been asking for the new release. The question is "What do you do?" It's a question of project discipline vs initiative. If the manager says, "I'll deal with the unpleasantness above, but I'll explain in no uncertain terms that he needs to communicate with me in the future when he wants to do something like this", it's probably a good balance. On the other hand, if he describes in loving detail about how he would destroy this person for disobedience, do what I did.

    "This interview is terminated".

  48. I did this once... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The biggest mistake we made was not hiring someone who would go to bat for our department. Maybe I'm naive, but I was really hopeful we could find a manager who would represent OUR needs in management meetings, rather than HER needs. Half the staff in my department quit or were reassigned within a year, which is really saying something because we had an average length of service of over a decade.

    Find a manager who will fight for YOU - for your projects, for your needs, for your funding, and who understands what you do well enough to convince other people that it's the most important thing in the organization. I would suggest asking them point blank for an example of a time in which the demands of management were in conflict with the needs identified by the department, and how he or she resolved the issue. Ask how s/he will promote the department's needs within the organization.

    Also, I would suggest asking what strengths s/he feels may be lacking in your department, and how s/he will act to fill these gaps. You need to understand whether you'll be getting new co-workers, incentives for retraining, or whether you're going to get pushed out in favor of someone else who s/he feels better meets the department's needs.

  49. Danger Will Rogers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in that position and the person who was finally hired was not my choice. Well he was told that he was not my choice and I eventually was forced out. Beware!

  50. Undocumented time off by erroneus · · Score: 1

    Ask his position on "undocumented time off" :)

  51. Watch "Step Brothers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Go to the job interview scene and memorize
    2. At your interview, re-enact verbatim
    3. ?
    4. Profit

  52. pointed question by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    You might ask how he feels about meaningless, "feel-good" management consultant-theater exercises like having a worker "interview" his own boss-to-be.

    It'll be a good indication of how much time you're going to be wasting in meetings, "team-building" exercises, etc.

    At most, all that's going to be accomplished by this nonsense is you getting a sense of just how much of a sociopath your new boss is going to be. Maybe you should ask him if he still wets the bed and sets small animals on fire.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  53. Dilbert Character Association by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ask him with which Dilbert character he associates himself the most.

  54. Time tracking by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 1

    I'd ask how they gauge productivity - particularly if you are an odd one out in a team. I'm in a similar situation where I do many things outside of my job role, and without my skills, so many projects and other tasks would have taken way longer if they happened at all. The difficulty though is in justifying my time further up the chain. That's why my manager worked with me to ensure she knows what I'm doing and why, and I know the kind of information she needs from me in order to explain how three days of my tinkering around leads to two weeks of time saved each quarter.

    Bring examples of how your previous manager did things well - have the discuss these approaches. You want to be certain this person keeps you on your toes and will be your advocate to higher management.

    --
    -- Using the preview button since 2005
  55. Ask some technical questions by davidbrit2 · · Score: 1

    Ask some vaguely technical questions. Yes, it's a bit of a trick question. If he starts coming up with elaborate and specific implementation details and other micromanagement, rather than a high-level understanding of the business constraints and risk assessment, who he would delegate to, and what requirements he would communicate, I'd be at least a little bit worried.

    If I ask my manager what stance to take with sales data retention, he'll tell me the business policies and IT resource constraints that affect the decision. If I ask him how I should construct the database to keep the large historic data from impacting performance, he'll tell me that's what he hired me for.

  56. What does an elderly boss taste like? by drainbramage · · Score: 2

    Depends.

    --
    No brain, no pain.
  57. Ask him by dropadrop · · Score: 1

    - How he feels success in your field should be measured, what would be good indicators - What he thinks are positive and negative aspects about outsourcing whatever you do - Try to get a feeling if he will openly admit when he does not understand something, or rather act as if he understands

  58. Two questions, three steps. by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    1: Is this being recorded?
    2: Do you ever press charges?
    3: Profit.

    --
    No brain, no pain.
  59. Ask why it's hard to work for them. by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

    Ask why it would be hard to work for them and demand a meaningful answer if they offer something stupid like "I expect amazing things from my people" - ask them why that's hard to handle and what support they would give you to accomplish that.

    Make them be specific in their answers to all questions. If they describe something about themselves, make them give an example from real experience.

    Question them about their use of buzzwords and bullshit.

    Other co-workers will be interviewing them, too - so ask them to take notes then ask your potential boss about the things they said.

    Don't be an asshole, just make it clear that you expect anyone who is going to be managing you to be amazing because you're amazing, so you're being hard nosed to weed out the empty suits.

    Any decent boss is going to relish having an employee who isn't afraid, and if the place you work for is worth working for, they won't hire someone who would use such an interview against you.

    --
    Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
    1. Re:Ask why it's hard to work for them. by Jiro · · Score: 1

      Asking why it would be hard to work for them is the manager equivalent to "tell me your biggest flaw". Since answering the question truthfully probably won't get you the job, the question turns into a test of how well you can BS.

    2. Re:Ask why it's hard to work for them. by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      You pretty obviously didn't read my post as I explained how to get around that. I addressed the bullshit issue.

      My point is this: beat them up. If they are worth being your boss they can take it and they will respect it.

      --
      Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
  60. Re:Social questions with a less emphasis on techni by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here is one question I'd make sure to ask: Will you have the underling's back when the politics start, and be able to get them what they need (within reason) for their job? Please cite examples.

    The reason I say this is that I have had experience in the past where a manager would not do much for hardware upgrades. Said manager would keep putting off asking superiors for budget. Heck, she didn't even push to get contracts renewed even after my daily warnings in E-mail and verbally about the gravity of what would happen. Of course E-mail to other managers resulted in the message, "stop going over heads, go through your supervisor first". Well, when the inevitable happened on a test machine and a filesystem went offline, I was sacked on the spot as a sacrificial lamb, even though there was absolutely nothing I can do about the situation.

  61. Study the archives by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    BOFH, the whole series. From managing HR to selecting your boss, it's all there.

    --
    Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
  62. My questions: by eepok · · Score: 1

    (Ego, Politics)
    How concerned are you with others' perception of you and your actions?

    (Self-Confidence, Protection)
    How do you handle stress passed down from the higher rungs on the ladder? Do you pass it down the hierarchy or do you act to shield your employees from stress they don't genuinely need?

    (Field Sgt. vs. Desk Jockey)
    How important is it for a manager to be capable of replacing her/his employees in absence of the employee? Are you willing to fill-in for your employees to the best of your capability?

    (Career "Management Track" vs. Genuine Leader)
    What do you see as the "perks" of being a manager vs. being the managed? What are the burdens?
    You have 3 employees in your division and you are told that the office is letting most people go early for the holidays. However, each division must "hold the fort" with at least one person. How do you decide who stays?

    (Ethics)
    Have you ever been required to compromise your integrity by a supervisor or manager? How did you feel?

    (Authenticity)
    What makes you uncomfortable in the work environment? (Clothing, language, discussion topics, etc.)

    (Humor and Creativity)
    Cake or pie? When and why?

    (Confidence in Team)
    On a scale of 1-10 (10 being frequent), how much do you micromanage? When would you prefer to be most involved in lower-level decision? When would you like to see your employees take charge?

    1. Re:My questions: by ndrw · · Score: 1

      (Ethics)
      Have you ever been required to compromise your integrity by a supervisor or manager? How did you feel?

      I really like the integrity question. I have asked it in several interviews, and it always makes people squirm. I ask it because it was asked of me, and it made me squirm. Part of an interview to me is trying to gauge how the candidate responds to stress, being put on the spot, or a unique challenge. I think the integrity questions can often do that!

  63. A few things to look for and to ask by jacobsm · · Score: 1

    1) Does the interviewee have a good chance to win in a game of 'Buzzword Bingo'?
    2) Describe your management style?
    2a) Do you manage upwards or downwards?
    3) Describe what you did when 'shit hit the fan in a previous position.
    4) Describe what you did when your team excelled in a situation.
    5) Describe the hardest thing you have ever had to do as a manager.

  64. I was in this situation recently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I asked her "describe your ideal jon -- what do you want to do?"

    She replied with a job title

    So I replied... yes that's a job title but what do YOU want to do?

    And then she opened up about the types of work she would like to do ....

    Discussions that address what the person wants to do (as opposed to what they have experience in) in my experience reveal much more insight into the person, and their aspirations while also promoting greater understanding of where they are coming from.

  65. Was involved in this a few years ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a standout candidate that the director was afraid would be targeting her job, so was eliminated solely based on that.

    There was a moderately qualified candidate with some red flags (that I spoke out against because of the red flags) that we hired.

      He turned out to be not so great. I wish we could have had the standout. The guy we got likes to piss on everything, micro manage to the point nobody else can get their work done, as they are blocking on him. He also has engaged in some really dickish manuvering (doesn't hesitate to throw others under the bus to get ahead / cover up for his own failings). Sad. About half the department (probably 80% of the most skilled folks) left because of him. Me, I am stuck here, but should be retiring soon.

    So, just because you are involved doesn't mean you will have real influence in the process.

  66. A question I actually asked a new boss once... by WebManWalking · · Score: 1

    Could I see some identification?

  67. Write down their replies by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    Whatever answers they give you, don't make the mistake of thinking that they're "all part of the game". Instead write them down and enter them into the formal record of the interview. Then at any later time, when whichever manager you get fails to live up to a statement they made during the interview, you'll have the material to "prove" they lied during the interview and can therefore be sacked.

    One last question you should use to end the interview: "Has everything you've told me been the truth?" but it's best not to ask that to the manager you want!

    --
    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  68. Out of bounds by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 1

    What's out of bounds?

    Asking you to interview your future boss....

    I sense a HUGE cultural problem in your company...

    1. Re:Out of bounds by fnj · · Score: 1

      Why?

  69. Screwdriver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ash him if he keeps a small screwdriver in his desk. Seriously! Every decent boss I've ever had could answer "yes".

  70. Good way to research an interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The OP is clearly the candidate who knows he's to be interviewed by his future reports. You, sir, are a smart interview candidate.

  71. Management roles by FishOuttaWater · · Score: 1
    What do you want managers to do? Interview for that. Personally, I want a manager who:
    • Can effectively deal with people problems
    • Can fire somebody when necessary
    • Effectively represents workers interests to the company.
    • Effectively represents company interests to the workers

    Interview for what you care about?

  72. maybe you r the inteviewee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe they reallywant to hire this person, but s/he is reluctant, so s/he is coming in to evaluate the quality of his reports

  73. Ask them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...if they've ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight.

  74. Why aren't you being considered for the position? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

  75. Never interview a boss by careysb · · Score: 1

    The VP where I used to work asked the development team to interview a potential candidate for our team manager. One question I asked was what books on project management had he read - answer: none. Later the VP asked me how it went and I said OK with this one concern. He said "well, he's a friend of mine and he starts next week".

  76. This is pointless by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I've had to interview a prospective boss a few times, and it seldom goes well. All you end up doing is weeding out people who don't interview well. The ones left are either (a) the manager of your dreams, or (b) a total sociopath bent on making your life a living hell, and it's impossible to tell the difference during the actual interview.

    There are a lot of good questions here, and all things being equal, one could put together a strategy to single out the best candidate. The problem is, the truly career-destroying candidate has learned to give the same answers.

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  77. Situational by degeneratemonkey · · Score: 1

    I had to interview my incoming boss. What I got were a pile of really terrible middle management clowns, with the exception of one brilliant physicist-turned-engineer-turned-manager that I immediately "knew" was the right answer.

    The important thing to remember is that this is an entirely situational choice. There are no one-size-fits-all tricks or gotchas that are going to help you find the right candidate. Do some thinking of your own. What do you want to get out of a boss? How do you see their position best serving the organization?

    Once you can answer those questions, you can figure out how to evaluate their capacity to do the job.

  78. What the...? by sackofdonuts · · Score: 1

    Here are some questions for you. Why are you interviewing your boss? Is there no one there above you that can interview a perspective boss? Why would you tolerate being the person to interview your boss? What I am trying to say is that a worker should never have to, expect to, or want to interview their boss. If your company things you have what it takes to interview your boss then you should be the boss. If you choose not to be the boss then you should also step away from any hiring decisions for your boss. You should really just step away from the task and tell your company to find another sucker for the job.

    1. Re:What the...? by degeneratemonkey · · Score: 1

      Why is this only the responsibility of a sucker? Presumably it's a small company. This kind of thing happens all the time at small companies; say your small development team would benefit from a project manager that can also efficiently interface with customers. As an engineer, this person would technically be your "boss," yet as lead engineer you are uniquely qualified to evaluate how useful they will be to your team and how well they will fit in.

      Now if this were at a large corporation with legions of HR personnel and a complex management hierarchy... yeah, GTFO. But I can pretty much guarantee that this is not the case.

  79. Make good impression. You don't really have a say by stanjo74 · · Score: 1
    Use the opportunity to make a good impression for yourself. He will be your boss - you don't really have a say in these matters.

    Many years go, I was in a small engineering team and we were allowed to interview our Director. There was one person nobody really liked, but turned out the big boss liked him because he talked the sweet talk and had all the right credentials - PhD in EE, etc. So, the big boss told our future Director how we didn't like him and hired him to be our Director. What an awkward situation, but a good lesson in life - express your opinion only if it really matters, and if you think it matters, think twice.

  80. I hate the american interview style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    guess how it work here:

    You send your Resumé, if it fits with the job the following happens.
    The Boss (many times Company Owner) and the Department manager sit together with you and talk for about two hours, to get to know you and your goals a bit better. You also already talk about money and a week later you will know if you get an offer.

    If they start with standart interview test bullshit after the smalltalk, then you didn't make it or the job is stupid.

  81. Ask them what they'd ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd ask them "What question would you ask if you were interviewing someone to be your boss." I think their answer would give some interesting insight into their personality and it probably is a question they haven't been asked before.

  82. Re:Social questions with a less emphasis on techni by Nevynxxx · · Score: 2

    You were sacked because a test system died? I think you had more issues that you imagine.

  83. What kind of management position is it? by Stolpskott · · Score: 1

    At some of the companies I have worked in, the manager is exactly that - a manager, they are there to motivate, attend meetings, provide direction, and organize. At other places, the manager is effectively a project manager who is expected to jump in and write code when needed.
    If they are expected to be the first type (the best type, in my opinion, if they are any good and their management style matches mine), then describe a generalized instance of a conflict within your team and ask how he solves it. Find out how he deals with an employee who is brilliant but not a team player (for example, a coder who writes birds nest code that only he can maintain, but something that is relevant to your company's field).
    If they are expected to be the second type, dig into their technical skills and ask them how they plan to get up to speed on the specific technical aspects of the job, while carrying out their management role.
    Also, consider turning the interview around for a few minutes half way through - give the candidate a BRIEF copy of your CV (half a side of A4 paper, rendered as 6-10 bullet points) and a couple of minutes to read it, then ask them to interview you for your current role. That will give you an idea of how well they mentally switch gears from one role to the other, and it also gives you a view of them as a manager that you otherwise would not get in the interview.

    However, as with any relationship, you will probably not really get to know your potential manager until your relationship breaks down, and that is something you want to put off as long as possible, so try not to trash your relationship in the interview, just in case the person (a) gets the job, and (b) holds a grudge!

  84. Trust by Yew2 · · Score: 1

    How much do you trust subordinates proficient with technologies you have limited understanding of? How often will you require in depth knowledge of technical changes before they are implemented and if you do not understand any aspect of such changes will you forbid them? Etc. etc....its possible many of us have had the techie vs. non-techie issues with bosses before and these hit home for me

    --
    will work for dragon quest localization
  85. You should always interview your boss by they_call_me_quag · · Score: 1

    First of all, all of you should be interviewing your (potential) boss when applying for jobs. It's really no different than the scenario described above.

    Questions I like to ask:

    * What do you look for when hiring {insert your job title here} ?
    * How do you motivate people?
    * How do you measure the performance of your direct reports?

    The "give me an example" questions are largely bs because anyone can make up an answer. Ask questions that assume someone has a system for doing their job, such as:

    * What is your system for managing a team?

    I also like to give people homework (like reading an online article about some relevant topic). Then I ask the next interviewer (scheduled a few days later) to ask questions about the homework. If someone does the homework and is able to speak somewhat intelligently about the topic, that's a positive sign. Ignoring the homework works about as well as it did in grade school.

  86. Your questions tell a lot by IagoEvans · · Score: 1

    I've been on both sides of the table on this one. Also, this is the first time I've ever posted to slashdot. Here's my limited experience: 1. The applicant is probably going to learn more about the organization from your questions than you'll learn from his/her answers. Smartass questions, gotcha questions, or "cute" questions paint a different picture of you and the organization than thoughtful ones would. You can signal a lot about your working environment by these questions. 2. You are being asked to provide input for something that will have a huge impact on your career at that company. That is almost always a good thing. So my $.02: You may want to ask open ended questions like: How would you describe your management style? How do you measure success? How do you feel about work/life balance? Slightly narrower questions: A project is behind schedule. What do you do? #push harder, remove features, move the deadline, investigate the cause of the delay, etc. communicates how/if the candidate protects his team. Do you program? What languages? How do you feel about documentation? #answers to this questions speak volumes, especially if the answer relates to the importance or unimportance of requirements docs, procedural docs, etc. Of course YMMV.

  87. Theory X or Y? by JohnnyComeLately · · Score: 1

    I interviewed with a colleague and boss, and things went well. There was a delay of 3-4 weeks for the offer letter and in the interim, I was asked to interview with a 3rd person, even though, "I already had the job." In casual conversation I mentioned, "You know there's two types of leaders/managers: Theory X and Theory Y. Theory X believe people have to be pushed to do a good job. Theory Y believe everyone wants to do well and a manager just figures out how to remove the roadblocks." This third person said, "I'm definitely Theory X." Spidey senses tingled like crazy. 5 months later, I've been working for the 3rd person and it's been constant headaches due to his management style.

    So, ask him "What do you think motivates people? You as a manager, or do you think people are naturally, internally very motivated to do a good job." The answers will be really revealing because a Theory X responder won't realize the "tell."

  88. Common Misconception by bobcote · · Score: 1

    Unless this is an informal meet the potential boss it may be a mistake.
    Companies seem to feel that anyone can conduct an interview but not everyone can. You should be trained by your company in the rules and laws regarding interviewing. Even an innocuous question like "So, do you have any kids?" - meant to break the ice - could be used in a lawsuit if someone feels their having or not having kids was a reason for not getting the job.

    You should also be trained on the company's policy for interviewing.

    Lack of interview training could also cause you to pass over a really good candidate because YOU failed to ask the right questions.

  89. Excellent point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another good idea is to reject anyone who works for more than 2 years at a single company. What that usually means is that they are eager to prolong bad situations as long as they can cash a paycheck. They didn't turn the company around, so they eventually left after picking the corpse clean, but they didn't leave soon enough to move on to a well-run company that could actually teach them useful management skills. That kind of person is not worth hiring.

    Executive summary: Your "X years" rule of thumb is worthless.

  90. Manager is your B1tch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First. Find out if he's a control freak/ micromanager. If he is, ditch him. He's incompetent yet ambitious. Bad combination.

    Next. Ask him how intends to support you to do your job.
    If he ever - *ever* - indicates a belief that you are there to do what he tells you when ditch him.

    A "manager" is there to support you in order to achieve your objectives in the wider context of the project/company strategy.
    If you are smart, you will already be quite capable of knowing how to this yourself. What you need is someone to run around convening meetings, looking after your vacation, timesheets, equipment upgrades, technical escalations, training and all that tedious shit. In other words, a good manager is there to run around and ensure you are productive by taking care of everything you hate. He is your bitch. You are not his.

    - 25 years experience in IT insdustry as coder, architect, manager and director.

  91. Training by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Get formal training on how to do interview.

  92. Conscience by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Find out if he takes decisions as per his https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscience