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Humans Have Been Eating Cheese For At Least 7,500 Years
An anonymous reader writes "Researchers have found conclusive evidence for the first time that humans have been making cheese since the 6th millennium BC."
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Thanks. That question has been keeping me up nights.
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for many many eons. :)
Okay, but when did they figure out how to make pizza?
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Blessed are the cheese makers.
Just because you are paranoid does not mean that no-one is out to get you.
...that people back in those days actually believed that the moon was one BIG ball of cheese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_is_made_of_green_cheese
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
People must have looked on and though, "What they heck is he/she doing there?!? Oh my!"
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Now that would be some well aged sharp cheese.
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Are we sure this just isn't a grilled cheese sandwich that looks like it has Noah's face on it?
Can we make cheese like our ancestors did 7,500 years ago? Then we'll blow it up with some C4.
and they've been cutting it for much longer.
I read this as "humans have been eating chinese"
What do I know, I'm just an idiot, right?
Cheese is made from milk.
Hey! See that thing over there with the legs? Let's make stuff from the stuff that comes out of it.
...cheese has been eating humans since 1917!!!
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
Try to put a sauce named "hovmästarsås" on your cheese. So good it becomes hard to eat cheese without it. Those ignorant Swedes waste it entirely on salmon (hence its second name, "gravlaxsås") which is a profanation. Can be often bought in IKEAs, or made on your own.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
OK, so they have evidence of humans making cheese back then. But where is the evidence that they were eating that cheese? :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Cheese is just spoiled milk just like wine is spoiled grapes and beer is spoiled grain.
This has been going on as long as these things have existed.
Hungry people will try to eat anything even if it has spoiled. Fortunately, sometimes when things spoil, they get better (but don't try this with meat).
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Something smells fishy
This may come as a shock to you, but some of us find our history interesting and want to learn something other than the difference between the GPL 2.0 and GPL 3.0 or how much skin some "genius" chews off his foot in public places. This is interesting because it represented a huge leap forward for humans. It meant a greater variety of food sources were available which makes eating a much more stable proposition. It also meant that people could start making longer term plans.
When those sorts of things happen the result is time to pursue things like "knowledge" and a greater understanding of the world around us. The reason that dweebs like us are free to enrich ourselves (i.e. browse pr0n on the web) is because it takes fewer people to produce the food that we eat. Obtaining sustenance is kinda high up on the list of priorities and is something everybody either does or thinks about multiple times per day.
So yeah, this is kind of big news. This is a case where the information is in the main stream media because it is interesting for us as well as for the normals. Rather than complain that other people are interested in nerdy shit we should be happy that other people still have enough of a sense of curiosity to learn about this instead of simply trying to reach for the remote why spilling their cheetos all over themselves as they try to turn to the cartoon channel to get away from intesmegmalectual crap like this.
Oh yeah, and next time you see something that is not interesting to you, you might want to try not complaining about it rather than trying to belittle anyone around you who might find it interesting. You know, kinda like the assholes who are always scoffing at your interest in the latest developments in the Python code base and how it impacts the postgrsql connector class.
+1 Insightful.
my first word as a baby was cheese.
Further credence has been given to the theory after a seven thousand year old can of Cheez Whiz was discovered at an archaeological dig in present day Chicago.
It was the first time that researchers had discovered that the ancient civilization used bowls for specific purposes.
Honestly, I'm at a loss for words.
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it gave the guy that walked behind him nightmares.
There are many different minority groups in China. Groups such as the Mongols have made cheese for thousands of years. The majority Han population make and use cheese, but it seems to be more of an imported idea from other cultures.
Making and eating cheese, beer, and bread define what it is to be fully human. Any dirty ape can go club a mammoth and bring it back to its den, but to domesticate two different kinds of creatures (a mammal and a bacterium, or a grass and a yeast) and use one to rot the other and come out with something even tastier than the original? That requires massive intelligence, communication, tool use, planning, and social structure.
(PS: if any modern cultures exist that don't eat cheese, beer, or bread, I don't mean to imply that they're not fully human. Their current environment might not have the resources to do these things, but you can bet their ancestors knew how.)
Everyone knows that the Earth is exactly 6016 years old: "Most conservative groups within Christianity still follow the estimate of Dr. John Lightfoot, a 17th century Anglican clergyman. He estimated that creation occurred during 4004 BCE. Bishop James Ussher in the 17th century made the same estimate a decade later, and ended up with almost all the credit." http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_date.htm
I remember seeing a scientific magazine discussing the history and chemistry of bread and beer, and how it was unclear which came first in history or whether or not one helped lead to the other.
That article was 20 years ago, and it is probably only one of 3 articles I can even remember specifically from the history of that magazine.
The interests of "nerds" are varied, and honestly I think you are an idiot and don't really understand "nerd" culture (no pun intended) if you are so narrow-minded that you think that the history of cheese isn't something that would not be interesting to a significant number of nerds.
The stomach of a young mammal naturally turns milk into curds and when. It solidifies the milk so that it digests more slowly, and the young mammal gets more out of it. Our ancestors turned breast milk into a primitive cheese, in their stomachs.
When a baby spits up milk, think about what it looks like - it's curds. Our ability to make curds from milk disappears about the same time our so-called milk-teeth start falling out.
As a result, to make cheese, you need the stomach lining of a young mammal to turn your milk to curds. Old mammals have lost the ability.
more or less than the amount of time people have been drinking Kool-aid? Does it depend on which calendar you choose to use?
Well of course they have been eating cheese for 7,500 years. Cheese is awesome. Love the stuff. I literally eat it everyday, always have. Havarti, colby, jack, cheddar, so many kinds of cheese. And they all taste different. Have different textures. Some kinds of cheese keep for years. The Roman army lived off hard cheese and a kind of hard biscuit. Many armies did. Cheese has been the back bone of many races. To the inventors of cheese. I SALUTE YOU!! Thank you!
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Wow, we sure have some ignorant moderators. Who doesn't know that cheese is made from milk? And since someone earlier made a joke about milking a cow, it's both overrated AND redundant.
Please, slashdot, bring back the old style metamoderation, at least two moderators are so uninformed that they think "cheese is made of milk" is insightful.
BTW, I'm offtopic. Waste your mod points on me.
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apple now has a patent on that , rounded edges right
well a circle is definatly rounded...PWNED
strange , some time ago a christian told me that god had creat the world ~4000 years ago... I love science ]=D
Well, you know... you can make cheese with any number of things that don't involve milk, or even dairy products at all, for that matter. Figure that's worth some mod points? I do. And might I add that anyone who mods this up is both brilliant and good looking?
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The Stinky Cheese Man and Other Fairly Stupid Tales
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Wow, an after all these years basic humor still escapes some readers.
There is SERIOUS need for a "Woosh" moderation.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
With kilns, yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyyh8_Afyw
It was prophesied somewhere in the first 6 books of the Aeneid that Aeneas and his men would someday be so hungry, they would eat their plates.
Somewhere in the second 6 books, there came a time, after a battle or something, when they had broken all their dinnerware. Someone had the idea to flatten out some dough, put the food on top of it and cook them all together, baking the bread and cooking the food at the same time. While they were eating, Aeneas' son Iulus said hey look everybody, we're eating our plates! Most thought it was just a joke and laughed, but the elders didn't laugh. They were amazed and recognized it as the fulfillment of prophesy made before Iulus was born.
So when you're in Italy and you hear of some restaurant claiming to have invented pizza in medieval times, be sure to ask them, really? How was it that Virgil was able to discuss something that your restaurant hadn't invented yet? Or something similarly snarky.
The earliest known case of lactose intolerance. Cause and effect.
What? Don't tell me milk comes from cow...
What I need to know is: what type are they, why they're so holy and what makes them smell so wretched? I mean, cheesus christ!
I honestly have never been more proud of my Polish ancestry than I am now!
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Pretty much every culture has its version of the pancake, and has had it or variations of it for millennia. Pancakes in its various iterations is one of the oldest recipes out there (sorry I couldn't find the reference off two minutes of googling, but it's basically contemporary with agriculture itself if memory serves). Thus, you can be pretty sure someone tried pancakes with cheese in an oh-so-unmodern way. It's not exactly pizza, but it's pretty close.
Remember, blessed are the cheese makers for they shall inherit the earth (which they apparently did)
So the next time someone complains when I cannon rush them in Stacraft 2, I can tell them not to be so mad, cheesing has been going on for 7500 years already...
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Who doesn't know that cheese is made from milk?
Americans?
*Ducks*
Seriously, what do you expect in a country that considers pizza to be a vegetable?
Cheese is made from nasty genitals.
Cheese is made from milk.
Possibly. I hear that Kraft cheese is made from a liquid that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike milk.
Everything is better with chainsaws.
I thought the fist cheese was not cow-made.
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The phrase "fist cheese" is completely nonsensical by any literal reading, and yet evokes such images of horror and disgust that I am searching around right now for my mind bleach.
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Sorry but this would not be /. without a Monty Python Cheese reference. So do you actually have any Cheese, Cleese?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_Shop_sketch
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cheese was one of the earlier uses of milk - rotten in a specific way. I wouldn't be surprised if cheese was the even the first use of milk other than breast-feeding your own child. Just hunt down a calf and open it's craw.
For the first few thousand years, they didn't know it.
You don't actually see any cheese in China, unless you go to posh restaurant which provides foreign food.
Not only a greater variety food but cheese has a number of qualities that make it useful and as you said a leap forward. It keeps well, it's high energy food for its volume and weight*, it's a way to preserve excess milk for later and it tastes good. Pretty valuable stuff I'd say.
* Which makes it good take along food for traveling.
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Well, to be strictly precise milk comes from any mammal. It's kinda part of the definition.
and man pondered shortly thereafter, "I can has cheezburger?"
... who was the first to discover it?
"Hey Ogg!!! This milk is kind of... old. And hard. And it's got some kind of mold on it. Let's eat it."
For that matter, how many erstwhile cow milkers got their heads kicked in until someone finally got t right?
If you want details on the cheese available back then, why not just ask Larry King?
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Damn slashdot, cool facts in almost every thread.
Except the political ones, of course.
Not nearly as wrong as breast milk ice cream ewww
It was prophesied somewhere in the first 6 books of the Aeneid that Aeneas and his men would someday be so hungry, they would eat their plates.
Shows what you know! Everyone knows that Ada Lovelace invented pizza and coke when she became the first programmer.
I'm sure people have been eating that for a lot longer.
... who was the first guy to think to himself, "I wonder if I can make something tasty by mixing an animal's milk with its stomach secretions and maintain it a a particular temperature for a while?"
If you disagree with me on social issues, then it's pretty clear that you are a narrow-minded bigot.
Cheese is made from milk.
Unless it's Edam, which is made backwards....
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I remember seeing a scientific magazine discussing the history and chemistry of bread and beer, and how it was unclear which came first in history or whether or not one helped lead to the other.
That article was 20 years ago, and it is probably only one of 3 articles I can even remember specifically from the history of that magazine.
"New Scientist", Christmas Double issue, I think...
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Duh!
Just turn it the other way, and won't be backwards!
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So the next time someone complains when I cannon rush them in Stacraft 2, I can tell them not to be so mad, cheesing has been going on for 7500 years already...
Kids call it cheesing 'cause it's fon to due
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"Cheese" not made from milk is only cheese if you consider margarine to be butter. Wikipedia: "Cheese is a generic term for a diverse group of milk-based food products." The dictionary:a food consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey.
If it isn't made from milk, it isn't cheese.
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Wow, an after all these years basic humor still escapes some readers
Yeah, well, I didn't think "Dumb and dumber" was funny, either. The GP comment was the same sort of "humor". And notice the moderation on it: 40% Insightful, 30% Overrated, 10% Redundant. Not a single "funny" mod.
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It doesn't have to be cow's milk, you can make cheese from any mammal's milk.
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Well, that gives us two things. First, we now know the date when humans first roamed Wisconsin and we also know how far back lactose intolerance dates.
How long have they been cutting the cheese?
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I can tell you this - I loved a great beer... really loved it. I would have a beer every day usually. I stopped drinking them, and it's been 3 weeks now. And I feel fantastic. I may enjoy them again some day, but if not I will be OK with that.
That would depend on how you define "pizza". Topped flatbreads as known to the Greeks are arguably too generic, the modern tomato-topped pie certainly too specific.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?