No Charges In UK For Gary McKinnon
clickclickdrone sends this news from the BBC:
"Computer hacker Gary McKinnon, who is wanted in the U.S., will not face charges in the U.K., the Crown Prosecution Service has said. Director of Public Prosecutions Keir Starmer QC said the chances of a successful conviction were 'not high.' He announced the decision some three months after Home Secretary Theresa May stopped the extradition. Mr. McKinnon, 46, admits accessing U.S. government computers but says he was looking for evidence of UFOs. The U.S. authorities tried to extradite him to face charges of causing $800,000 (£487,000) to military computer systems and he would have faced up to 60 years in prison if convicted."
The UK CPS declined to prosecute him originally and further decline to do so now.
This trumps all other arguments.
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Could he come & cause $800,000 to my computer system too? I could use the upgrade...
So if he's not getting extradited, and there are no charges in the UK, is McKinnon a free man?
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Damages they are claiming though come from having to fix the vulnerabilites that let him in in the first place. That and the money spent on the legal bills for embarassing them.
Right, so the real people responsible will be charged now? The ones who left seriously insecure military computers connected to the internet?
and it costs money
It would have cost the same with or without McKinnon. Unless you think it's reasonable for them to leave unsecured computers connected to the net until such time as they happen to notice an exploit.
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If anyone should be punished, it's those incompetents who did not secure the computers in the first place. It's like leaving the door to the office building unlocked and unguarded. There's nothing like a foreign scapegoat to distract the news media.
Surely if you discovered computers important to national security were unprotected, were using default passwords allowing easy access, or hadn't been appropriately patched and maintained, you would have to treat these machines as potentially compromised whether or not you know someone had accessed them.
As a result, all the costs you mention, other than the legal ones, would necessarily have to be incurred anyway.
McKinnon is accused of deleting a load of "critical system files" from a number of key military computers (shutting down various networks), along with over 2,000 user accounts from Army's Washington DC(?) network. They wouldn't have had to fix all of that without his interference.
As for the computers being unsecured, afaik there is no way to completely secure any network connected to the Internet, although I don't know how much work he had to do to break in.
he also admitted his "hacking" was almost entirely limited to guessing default or super weak (12345) passwords- this is actually farcical. they have to paint him as some Asperger super hacker to stop themselves looking like idiots
They wouldn't have had to fix all of that without his interference.
Please NEVER EVER get a job in security.
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Once such important systems had even been found potentially compromised, they become entirely untrustworthy and cannot be used.
They noticed McKinnon by sheer blind luck.
If it had been a competent agent of Mossad or something they would never have noticed. Or by someone as competent as the guys that made Flame.
But the fact that they were wildly insecure meant that they would have had to shut down the entire system basically instantly and repair it.
They were bloody lucky it was McKinnon and not someone else.
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No, he has Asperger's syndrome, which, from what I can gather, is way for IT guys like us to behave like absolutely fucking pricks, and we just have to hold up the card "Asperger's" and everyone is supposed to accept our miserable attitude. Apserger also apparently extends to hacking into systems we have no business being in. Apparently, providing we have this wonderful social ineptitude disease, we don't face the consequences of any of our online actions.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I think I'm going to go out at lunch and kick some little old lady in the ass. "Asperger's!"
Did you really just have an uncalled for, violent, frothing rage at people with "social ineptitude disease"? You know, it pays to look both ways before crossing Irony Street.
Yes they would IF they were doing their jobs. As soon as it was found that someone from the outside could (even in theory) gain access to those machines, they were untrustworthy and needed to be wiped completely and re-installed. For all we know, actual enemies had been playing in those systems for quite a while and would still be there if not for McKinnon bumbling in and making noise.
More like breaking in (maybe through a weak door),...
The quote contains the root of the problem.
If these compromised networks had adequate security to start with, Gary M. wold not have gotten in.
As long as the mindset of 'convenience/budget overrules security' this stuff will keep happening frequently. /. all the time, and have for years....thousands of comments by IT folks on /. complaining that their pointy haired bosses begrudge the cost of network security, yet that network is so vital to the organization.
There is a good reason banks spend the money to install those expensive, elaborate bank vaults for the money to be kept in.
We see that here on
I propose that when these security breaches occur, that those responsible for security policy decisions share the guilt with the 'hacker' equally.
Only then will this issue be improved.
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