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Ask Slashdot: Android Apps For Kids Under 12 Months?

An anonymous reader writes "My kid seems incredibly interested in my Android tablet, but I'm not too comfortable with letting her play with my browser. I've been hunting the app store for apps that I could let my kid play around with, but haven't found much. It seems like most apps are targeted for slightly older kids and are trying to teach them words, math or whatnot. Has anyone found any cool apps for approximately 6-month-old children? I'm mostly looking for something that makes funny noises or where you just have to e.g. track moving objects on the screen."

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  1. 6 months? by cashman73 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wouldn't worry about finding specific apps that are "safe" for a 6-month old. At that age, no parent should even consider letting their child use an Internet-connected device unsupervised. So, if yo show the child something on the web browser, or another app, you should know specifically what you're looking at and should be 100% comfortable with the material.

    1. Re:6 months? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Insane.

      Put the phone away. Talk to the child. You know: teach human interaction? This is a child, not your personal experiment.

      A review of the evidence in the Archives Of Disease in Childhood says children's obsession with TV, computers and screen games is causing developmental damage as well as long-term physical harm. Doctors at the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, which co-owns the journal with the British Medical Journal group, say they are concerned. Guidelines in the US, Canada and Australia already urge limits on children's screen time, but there are none yet in Britain.
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/09/ban-under-threes-watching-television

      Why would you substitute the acquisition of developmental language skills and the attendant ability to relate and empathise - with a fixation on shiny lights and noises?

      I understand that this is Slashdot - but value of the concept cannot be completely alien...

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    2. Re:6 months? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a child, not your personal experiment.

      Isn't every kid a (personal) experiment of the parents? You screw some up so you try again, until you just say "screw it, all of them are messed up, I think I'll just quit now"

      Captcha is very apt: condom

    3. Re:6 months? by Rhalin · · Score: 2

      Insane.

      Put the phone away. Talk to the child. You know: teach human interaction? This is a child, not your personal experiment.

      A review of the evidence in the Archives Of Disease in Childhood says children's obsession with TV, computers and screen games is causing developmental damage as well as long-term physical harm. Doctors at the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, which co-owns the journal with the British Medical Journal group, say they are concerned. Guidelines in the US, Canada and Australia already urge limits on children's screen time, but there are none yet in Britain.
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/09/ban-under-threes-watching-television

      Why would you substitute the acquisition of developmental language skills and the attendant ability to relate and empathise - with a fixation on shiny lights and noises?

      I understand that this is Slashdot - but value of the concept cannot be completely alien...

      This. A thousand times this. It doesn't matter that they like it, it is still a bad idea to encourage it at that age. Too lazy to cite other sources, but they exist.

    4. Re:6 months? by icebraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As soon as I ready the title, I knew that some condescending prick would post something like this.

      Who the fuck said anything about substituting normal communication with this? Are you somehow incapable of doing more than one thing per day, let alone per week?

      Your study proposes imposing limits on screen time, not banning them as if a couple of hours of TV per week is going to mush the kids brains. Stop assuming everyone but you is incapable of having common sense.

    5. Re:6 months? by kheldan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This. This, times 1,000,000.
      The world doesn't need children who connect better with machines than they do other human beings.

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    6. Re:6 months? by icebraining · · Score: 2

      And I'm sure that if people here act like condescending pricks, all those lazy parents will see the errors of their ways and turn off the TVs.

    7. Re:6 months? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Talk to the child.

      Is there an app for that . . . ?

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    8. Re:6 months? by hb253 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It may sound condescending, but really - 6-months old and you're asking about apps? All the kid wants to do at this age is pound things on the floor and slobber on them.

      How about just giving the kid a colorful cardboard square and be done with it.

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    9. Re:6 months? by anagama · · Score: 2

      Aside from that, an app could well be totally interractive with the kid. I suggest "cat games". Set kid on lap, fire it up, and help the kid touch the bugs. Interactive and teaches skills:

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.catgamesfree&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImFpci5jYXRnYW1lc2ZyZWUiXQ..

      Or if squishing bugs is too violent, how about Pew Pew Laser. Just makes a pretty light and "pew" sound:

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jcoco.actual.pewpewlasers&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qY29jby5hY3R1YWwucGV3cGV3bGFzZXJzIl0.

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    10. Re:6 months? by Kozz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Being a responsible parent and allowing a child some brief app time don't have to be mutually exclusive, does it? What if you want a simple tool to help you keep your child entertained for a brief amount of time?

      Real-world example: the other day I had my 2yr old with me while we went Christmas shopping. I found myself in an unavoidably long line, with him in the cart. I pulled out my phone which had installed on it a simple drawing/painting app. Each new "touch" would choose a random color from a preset palette, and he could drag his finger on the screen to draw lines, circles, or whatever. I then took a photo of him, and he could draw on that as well. We played together on it for maybe 5 minutes, which was really all I needed so we both didn't drive each other a bit crazy while waiting in line.

      I don't really see anything wrong with this, and I suspect you wouldn't either -- but I could be wrong. And maybe that's not what the original question was about, but just my $0.02USD.

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    11. Re:6 months? by deroby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Kids at 6 months are VERY alike. Off course the kid loves the tablet, it's got bright, moving, pictures; it's shiny and it makes funny sounds.

      I also think it's the stupidest thing to hook a young child on. At that age (s)he's supposed to start looking around, learn how to move and build up a sense of the world and probably even more important : build some social skills, people-interaction. The latter quickly turns into finding ways to get your attention in the most diverse ways which you'll have to 'direct' into some positive way. But heck, you're supposed to play peek-a-boo with him/her, not Angry Birds !

      That said, I don't think of it as being "bad" to have the child watch you play on the tablet; can't be worse than e.g. watching TV. But the posters question seems to imply that he wants to let a toddler "play safely" on it without supervision and I can see some kind of time-line evolving like this :
      * watch zombo.com for a while, get bored
      * play some tap-the-clown and he starts-laughing games, get bored
      * play some simple puzzles, get bored ...
      * play some of those never-ending games where time == success and get your reality-view completely screwed up.

      (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating here; but I surely am not taking the risk with my kids, and yes I have 2. Have you Icebraining ?)

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    12. Re:6 months? by SteveFoerster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are the people at the American Academy of Pediatrics condescending pricks as well? Because their advice is to allow no screen time at all for infants and toddlers.

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    13. Re:6 months? by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I love naive reponses from people with no kids. There are 2 reasons for using electronic devices like a tablet with a baby:
      1. When I watch my wife entertaining/stimulating/educating/feeding/exercising and walking with our baby for 12 hours a day, I cannot but feel sorry for her. Being able to put the baby in front of a screen for half an hour a day gives her a way to avoid going insane.
      2. A tablet/TV/computer screen/phone is not a way to avoid responsible parenting. It's simply yet another stimulant in the endless search for things to do with a baby that gets fed up with an activity after 15 minutes. (That's 30-40 different activities a day, every day (some activities like eating, singing, etc. can be repeated)

      So my baby's recommendation is "my baby piano" on android.

    14. Re:6 months? by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 2

      Obviously, your first choice is to assume I am an insensitive clod. You Sir, have spent far too much time on Slashdot.

    15. Re:6 months? by robot5x · · Score: 2

      I normally avoid any threads here asking about kids and tech.

      I generally take the 'live and let live' approach - but I have to agree here. This guy is a fucking retard. If you're worrying about which APP is suitable for a kid at 6 months old you're really doing something wrong. That is all.

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    16. Re:6 months? by mingle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have no idea... I have three kids under 6 years old (two of whom are twins). The last thing I'd ever do with a 6 month old is stick a screen or mind-numbing electronic gadget in front of them. As many posted have said; direct human interaction is what you should be striving for. Or if you're both too knackered (I know, I've been there!), physical object that they can hold and touch are the best alternative.

    17. Re:6 months? by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      * play some of those never-ending games where time == success and get your reality-view completely screwed up.

      Training the kid for a career in "public service" or a union job might not be too bad for the kid, assuming that not too many parents do it that there aren't enough of the rest of us left to pay for things....

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    18. Re:6 months? by iocat · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You're not supposed to entertain infants. You're supposed to keep them from dying. Anything you do or that they see should be intrinsically motivating for them. This is why they love super boring shit like seeing car keys or business reply cards. If they're bored give them a wooden spoon. All a tablet is going to do is frustrate them.

      Am I saying you're a bad parent if you use devices to entertain your less-than-12-month-old infant? Yes, I am. I am straight up judging you and finding you lacking if, after hundreds of thousands of years of non-screen-based infant development, you suddenly are too weak and useless to raise a child without a tiny TV next to them. You're a disgrace to our species.

      Source: raised kid without showing them TV until they were after 1 year old. I don't mean they never saw a TV, I'm just saying we never used it as a babysitter or were like "now's the time when you watch tv"

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    19. Re:6 months? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I look forward to the "Ask Slashdot" six years from now, asking how to cope with a tech-obsessed and uncommunicative autistic child.

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    20. Re:6 months? by Myopic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why would you choose to give them a mind-numbing electronic gadget instead of a mind-engaging electronic gadget? Do you give your children mind-numbing wooden toys? How about reading them mind-numbing books? Golly I don't give my children mind-numbing anything. Any electronic gadget used in my household engages the mind, like everything else in my house.

    21. Re:6 months? by Myopic · · Score: 2

      You're not a jackass because you judged some parents who use televisions as babysitters, you're a jackass because you used black-white thinking to put into a single group anybody who uses any electronics around babies. It's shallow thinking. It's prejudice premised on ignorance.

    22. Re:6 months? by Myopic · · Score: 2

      Why are you purposely retarding your children's development? It seems like a mean thing to do just to preserve some kind of parenting philosophy.

    23. Re:6 months? by NFN_NLN · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about taking care of your kid by *yourself* some in order to give Your Wife a break? The tv/smartphone is your first consideration?!

      It was once socially acceptable to dope up children with opiates. Anyone with any common sense should have been able to see this was not healthy.
      History repeats.

      "Youngsters were introduced to the pleasures of opiates at their mothers' breast. Harassed baby-minders - and overworked parents - found opium-based preparations were a dependable way to keep their kids happy and docile; this was an era before Ritalin. Sales of Godfrey's Cordial, a soothing syrup of opium tincture effective against colic, were prodigious. But Godfrey's Cordial had its competitors: Street's Infants' Quietness, Atkinson's Infants' Preservative, and Mrs Winslow's Soothing Syrup.

      Opium was viewed as a medicine, not a drug of abuse. Contemporary medical theory didn't allow that one could become addicted to a cure. However, the chemists and physicians most actively investigating the properties of opium were also its dedicated consumers; and this may conceivably have coloured their judgement."

  2. Couting Robot by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Counting Robot

    Basically it is a sort of whack-a-mole with different numbers of moles each time.

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  3. Zoodles by detain · · Score: 2

    http://www.zoodles.com/home/marketing/android Pretty good kid-mode for android. Disables most apps / buttons and provides its own kid interface to just what you enable.

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  4. Give the best app by Computer_kid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Love and affection. At that age it is nothing more then a glowing rectangle that makes noise. Go outside and show your children the world around them.

  5. Toddler Lock by throup · · Score: 5, Informative

    Toddler Lock works nicely. Cool colours and sounds as they touch the screen. It temporarily replaces the home screen so it locks out phone/internet/other app access until an adult follows the onscreen unlock instructions.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=marcone.toddlerlock

    1. Re:Toddler Lock by j-cloth · · Score: 2

      Seconded. Both kids have loved this. It's perfect when you need a few seconds of distraction (like changing the diaper of a mad kid) Similarly, I use bam bam on my laptop. Same idea-puts all keys in a safe mode.

    2. Re:Toddler Lock by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      My kid seems incredibly interested in my Android tablet, but I'm not too comfortable with letting her play with my browser.

      On the other hand, your kid already knows what a boob looks like...

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  6. Real play and physical interaction are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My understanding is that physical play with 3D objects (e.g. blocks) for motor skills and physical interaction with a parent for language skills are much more important to young children than learning apps. Anecdotally, I've heard that kids learn language much better from real interaction with an adult than from language aps.

    Although this might be heresy for a tech web site, put away the screens, big and small, for the very young!

  7. Simple answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This idiotic question is easy to answer. Any app calling shutdown() right at the beginning will do just fine.

    Really, just stop fucking up your kids.

  8. vi and cc by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you want to make them into responsible open source contributors you better start as early as possible.

    1. Re:vi and cc by rst123 · · Score: 2

      suggesting vi without giving equal time to emacs? you trying to start a flame war?

  9. Related question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My toddler is very interested in my car keys, but I'm reluctant to let him drive my BMW. The iDrive system is somewhat complicated, and I think a RWD performance car might not be appropriate for a first-time driver - especially since here's snow on the ground and he can't reach the pedals. Can anyone recommend a FWD or AWD car with a simpler interface and adjustble pedals which would be appropriate for a sub-2 year old child?

  10. Just stop by p0p0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A child shouldn't be handling technology until about 3 years old, as many Slashdot stories have reported. It's also just common sense that so much stimulation so early on is bad for a developing brain.

    You mistake interest for curiosity. It is in the child's nature to explore and learn about their environment, but introducing them to your tablet is just going to impede their progress as all their attention is consumed by the device.

  11. Our son is 9 months old by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and we decided he will not look at a TV/PC/phone screen before he is two years old as a minimum. We instead try to spend as much as time possible with him doing activities appropriate for a 9 months old baby. Maybe this is the reason why he is so active and curious about what happens around him.... And no, I am not a tech luddite (I am a physicist).

  12. More specifically... by NEDHead · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "My 3 week old is fascinated by certain shapes. Is there an app that looks like big tits dripping milk that would be something he could play with?"

    Dumb ass posting; never should have seen the light of day.

    1. Re:More specifically... by pla · · Score: 2

      My 3 week old is fascinated by certain shapes. Is there an app that looks like big tits dripping milk that would be something he could play with?

      Oh, you have come to the right place for that, my friend! Welcome to the Internet! You can find breasts doing just about anything you can imagine here, including quite a few things you can't imagine, and some you can't even comprehend.

      Enjoy your stay! ;)

  13. I have several... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Look for the following....

    A rattle, a ball, and any of the other toys that work on dexterity and focus. Apps? really?

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  14. Backlights may disturb melatonin production by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The research is still early on this. I would be very careful, and I'd limit exposure to flat screen TVs as well.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/28/news/la-jc-sleep-book-backlit-melatonin-20120828

    “Our study shows that a two-hour exposure to light from self-luminous electronic displays can suppress melatonin by about 22 percent," said Mariana Figueiro, the lead researcher. “Stimulating the human circadian system to this level may affect sleep in those using the devices prior to bedtime.”

  15. Re:You're a lazy excuse for a parent by l-ascorbic · · Score: 2

    Self-righteous enough? You're obviously never had a screaming toddler on your lap while you're on the phone, when a minute of Talking Ginger on the Nexus is the difference between screaming and giggling contentedly. This isn't mutually exclusive with playing with blocks or stuffed toys.

  16. Re:You're a lazy excuse for a parent by houghi · · Score: 2

    So giving in to a toddler is the answer?
    If you do not neglected your kid, it will sometimes cry to try out boundaries. If you give in at the young age, you will give in later as well.
    You are not the kids best friend. They do not have to think you are great because you give in and do what they want.

    You are the parent. You are there for the kid. Giving in is for yourself. This is not about you. This is not about the kid crying. This is about you giving the kid what it needs to grow up and know boundaries.

    If you are lucky, your kids will get kids of their own and only then will they understand what you were trying to do. Till then, they probably hate you at some level.

    And yes, I have had a crying toddler on the phone, craving attention that it wasn't getting. Tough shit. I will hang up, because I do not want the other person to be deaf. I then will call back as soon as the toddler s safe and out of noise range (probably still crying).

    Obviously I do not take calls all of the day. However the kid has got to learn that sometimes I am not around, so it should learn that I take my 10 minute phone call or a 5 minute toilet break.

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  17. baby app by icknay · · Score: 2

    Try "baby picture fun" ... Super simple, free, no ads. Will entertain for a couple minutes.

  18. you're crazy to do that to an infant! by girlinatrainingbra · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously, it's crazy to do that to an infant. An infant is still developing their visual system and learning (by pruning their brain synapses) about the reality of the world around them and how they (the infant) interact with it physically. Providing examples of useless GUI interfaces and ongoing stimuli with poor interaction is a crazy thing to do to an infant.
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    They need physical toys like rattles and pacifiers and blocks that they can touch and move around and make noise with and learn the "intuitive" laws of physics from them. Give them a few years before you throw Emacs at them. The only Gnu they need to interact with at that tender age is a stuffed Gnu plush toy. And I say this as a fervent believer in children playing with computers: do NOT make infants and toddlers play with computers and tablets.
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    The American Academy of Pediatrics itself recommends limiting access to screen time for children under the age of 2 years .

  19. play with your kids app by johnrpenner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how about the 'play with your kids app'??
    like peek-a-boo, and pass the ball, and ride the horsey?

    expecting a 10 month yr old to play w an android tablet instead of playing w a real human is ridiculous..
    you can do better as a parent

    2cents
    j

  20. It's bad for his eyes... by Kergan · · Score: 2

    As a forewarning, your child's eye sight isn't fully developed yet at this age, and should probably not use the device before age 2-3 any more than a 3d game consol.

    Now, if you still let him or her look at the screen at arm's range, he or she will see bright lights with vague shapes. You'll be able to tell because he or she will have a hard time distinguishing and interacting with precise UI features. Thus, at least do your kid a service by dimming the screen's brightness to the lowest possible setting.

    If my own nephew is any indicator, btw, tasting the device will your infant's primary interest, alongside an occasional crash test when it slips. You've little need for fancy apps for that, the device itself and some simple music or drawing app will suffice.

    Lastly, as many other posters have suggested already, you should be playing with and talking (very important) to your child, instead of delegating babysitting to a screen.

  21. Re:You're a lazy excuse for a parent by l-ascorbic · · Score: 2

    Giving a baby something bright and shiny to play with to distract them from teething pain for five minutes isn't "giving in". Your argument seems to be that any attempt to stop a child from crying is spoiling them. I wonder how long your attitude would last if you were sat behind a 1 year old on a ten hour flight. Would you prefer their parents tried "In The Night Garden" on the iPad, or a lesson in boundaries?

  22. I'm glad Slashdot is here! by DJCouchyCouch · · Score: 5, Funny

    If there's one thing I can rely on Slashdot about, especially when no one here has ever met a woman, it's reliable parenting advice.

  23. Re:What should 6 month old babies do? by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

    Playing games on a phone? Unlikely.

    I once saw a young mom hand her expensive looking clamshell phone to her one year old daughter. Then I watched as the girl snapped it backwards and handed the 2 pieces back to the stunned mom.

  24. Re:Let me tell you how to raise your kid! by Myopic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your kid is slow. When my son surfed out of my wife's vagina I handed the little guy a piece of chalk and he proved Fermat's Last Theorem. I scolded him and told him that was proven 17 years ago! Get working on P != NP, son!