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Rivalry Building Between Amazon and Google
Amazon and Google, both giants in the online business world, started out as separate entities with two very different agendas. As each has grown into an empire, the overlapping areas of business between the two companies has grown as well. But with both companies moving strongly into the electronic device market, cloud services, and Amazon now building out its advertising network, they find themselves increasingly at odds, and 2013 may bring more direct battles."Amazon wants to be the one place where you buy everything. Google wants to be the one place where you find everything, of which buying things is a subset. So when you marry those facts I think you're going to see a natural collision," said VC partner Chi-hua Chien. Adds Reuters, "Not long after Bezos learned of Google's catalog plans, Amazon began scanning books and providing searchable digital excerpts. Its Kindle e-reader, launched a few years later, owes much of its inspiration to the catalog news, the executive said. Now, Amazon is pushing its online ad efforts, threatening to siphon revenue and users from Google's main search website."
While everyone is more interested in the rivalry of Google, Apple and Microsoft, Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
For us, rather than working together to smash us down with their mighty clubs.
Keep at it boys, keep at it.
While everyone is more interested in the rivalry of Google, Apple and Microsoft, Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
Nobody is interested in Microsoft. The "pack of four" includes *Facebook* over Microsoft.
I have to sideload the amazon app store on my android devices if I want it.
This does not take a rocket scientist to figure out.
Silence is a state of mime.
If Tim Worstall's Forbes article "Is Amazons Advertising A Threat To Google?" is not worth discussing on its own merits - as either reportage or a question - then why is it relevant or interesting as the putative substantiation of the headline "Rivalry Building Between Amazon and Google"?
I believe that had Tim been reporting on an actual increase in an actual rivalry between Amazon and Google, he would have managed to secure a slightly better title for his article.
I also believe that were there an actual increase in an actual rivalry between Amazon and Google for us to discuss, the OP would have found a more suitable article to cite.
Prove me wrong, but I think this item should be marked as being from the don't-bother-checking-your-Slashdot-feed-its-practically-spam department.
The reality of the new world order, is the "pack of four" do have massive overlap in business, but that is just the way it should be. Its good old fashioned competition. Everyone has a store; Everyone had apps; Everyone owns an advertising company, Everyone has hardware [Ok Facebook only rumoured since forever, and Amazon new rumoured around a phone].
Personally I think the consumer needs to protected with cross platform; patent free formats, and the ability to move between devices as easily [and I mean Apps too] as possible to protect consumers from being locked into any one ecosystem.
Amazon AWS hosts Netflix and it was done for hours yesterday. Based on that I'd say +1 Google in the systems reliability front.
I take it you don't have any apps on Amazon huh? Their sales, from everything I've seen, are drops in the bucket compared to the play store
Children are starving around the world NOW and you want to blather on about guns?
I don't torrent. I bought programs from amazon unbox service. I thought paying $1.99 for programs was fair... OK, I have to wait until the next day because the broadcast networks/cable people have an anti consumer bent towards people "buying" media from them. I'll spare you the rant about the the people who watch the shows being the product vs the shows themselves.
What is hugely obnoxious is that Amazon is using its position to punish people. You can't get the amazon player for android even though you can get it for the Kindle (which is based on android) and surprise you can get it for the iPad. So none of the content that I paid for will work on my Nexus 7.
Now I just wait for the DVD sets to hit the library.
I think banning humans would go a long way to solving the world's problems.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Recently as part of Googles defence against Microsofts smear campaign against "Shopping search monopoly" Amzason where given as an example of where 40% of shoppers go first.
I hope we will see the rise of cyberpunk with real competing technology businesses with their own secret task-forces and total disregard for human life in order to turn a profit and curb their competition!
In little more than a blink of an eye we're going to experience the heat-death of the universe, where there will never be anything - ever, anywhere - again. And you want to talk about kids?
Speak for yourself. My business runs on Microsoft stuff. I couldn't give two shits about Facebook, Google, or Amazon.
The fact that your company runs what is seen as utility product, is the reason why Microsoft is considered irrelevant.
Facebook is in a fast decline and has been since before they went public. Microsoft is continuing to be fairly constant.
Facebook is not in fast decline...its nearest competitor Google+ is still a ways of it threatening Facebook. Other than Facebook buying an Ad company. I have been astonished they have done *nothing*. As for Microsoft being constant, Google is getting serious about threatening their core product Office recently, while Microsoft failed in both search and mobile costing them Billions, and its new products Surface and Windows 8 have been disappointing they still print cash, but its for their undesirable utility products.
We are about to go over the fiscal cliff and you want to talk about starving children?
That makes no sense.
Mircrosoft are simply the OS/Office Monopoly company that is a tax on every machine, you simply pay it as a business and get on with your life. Now compare and contrast with movers and shakers Amazon; Apple; Google; Facebook [the pack of four. Microsoft used to be a company that ate competitors for breakfast...now they are everyone bitch. People here often make reference to Ballmer throwing chairs..the sad reality is there is little wrong with throwing a chair we all lose our temper, what is wrong is after he threw the chair he then said "Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to fucking kill Google."...and then failed to deliver!
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B.) Spammed
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E.) Hit by DNS poisoning redirection (OR DNS servers being "downed") losing reliability
F.) Blocked out & have even more 'anonymity' (to an extent vs. DNS request logs) + being able to "blow by" what you may feel are unjust blocks (in DNSBL's)...
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7.) Blocking out TRACKERS.
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12.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O too - bonus!).
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Enjoy the program!
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A.) Malware makers & the like (botnet masters, etc./et al)
B.) ADVERTISERS - Offended ones since it's their "lifeblood" in psychological attack, tracking, & more, etc.!
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* There you are...
APK
P.S.=> So, let Amazo
Which is the more evil? Just advertising? Or stealing person info and selling it, or placing ads based on it?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
If only it were Chihuahua... chien is "dog" in French :)
I want to play Free Market with a drowning Libertarian.
You do not really need patent free format. Just a guarantee that your stuff will be migrated,
...because I'm not happy replacing a Monopoly with a cartel! I really like your post, I was more focused on offline paid content [books; movies; Apps] forgetting that if anything there is as much content [yours and commercial] in the cloud, but I suspect caring Governments should be protecting "the people from themselves" as people do not seem to understand how much of their ownership over their lives they have given to these mega-corps.
CYPHER -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcPgyocJeF4&feature=related
* It's a LOT like what you describe...
Probably isn't that 'far off the mark' or even going on already to SOME extent... & eventually, it probably WILL be done, with the means shown in that film in the near future for 'corporate espionage' purposes + more.
Especially given that corporations ARE already funding "Matrix-Like Learning" here via KickStarter -> http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/nissan-announces-winners-for-innovation-garage-social-media-campaign
You see it in films? It's only, imo @ least only around 10-40 yrs. away... if that.
APK
P.S.=> Good flick too - Jeremy Northam's impressing me more & more as a "thespian" (he has a LOT of 'range' - from playing the GREAT "Walter Hagen" in "Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius" (lol, loved his part there, Walter Hagen's my kind of guy), then into this role too)...
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The others are near the ceiling of their markets.
Google has failed to make money with anything other than search ads. Microsoft probably has a long life ahead of it, like IBM, serving the needs of business. Apple has a price maintenance problem - their huge markups may not survive the flood of lower-priced devices. Facebook is in a bind; their user base has peaked, and shoving more ads at users didn't work out for Myspace.
I agree Apples pursuit of profit over marketshare has been seriously short sighted, yet there is nothing stopping them expanding their product range; entering new markets [social;money]; licensing their OS to third parties..Oh and AppleTV [whatever you think of that]. Google are already starting to make real money from their Store, sat at 710Million devices and growing at 1.5Million a day, and yes they will continue to expand their ads into the mobile space, but the two pieces of news that I find interesting is googles interest in becoming the new credit card, and it challenging Microsoft at its core offering an Office equivalent at $50 a year (a massive cost saving over Microsoft). Amazon is just well taking over shopping, but its tablets kick-started the 7" tablet revolution...and I suspect a Amazon [Google stripped] phone will do the same...did I mention the cloud. The only real question mark is over Facebook...and your right advertising is only part of the package. I hoped they would buy blackberry or something exciting, because they have so much potential. The reality is most of those rumours [and they are not comprehensive] are interchangeable simply because they are so much in each others space. [notice I don't mention IBM, or computing eyewear...or self driving cars for that matter.]
I think banning humans would go a long way to solving the world's problems.
Skynet? Is that you?
only a fucking moron says this.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Facebook is still small time imo. The fact they have to resort to pushing some pretty shit ads (gambling, betting, etc) just to get their money says they're not getting it because it appears they're just pushing any ad to anyone. There is no intelligence behind it otherwise they'd realise I'd never click on an ad for gambling. The only thing they have is a large audience and some claim they have a lock-in since people have put their lives into their system but the same thing could have been said about MySpace. Microsoft is losing some relevance but at least they still have products that people need and won't be as happy to replace.
...ask Google who threatens them more Microsoft or Facebook.
What do I care about their sales? I'm happy with their free app of the day. Most are crap, but I did manage to get Tetris on a day when it was free.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=FB
Not really sure what your point is. In the context of this thread. Microsoft shares have been flat for years...and are down right now. Facebook raised a stack of cash from selling shares, overpriced at launch, nice! that is exactly what a company wants...its shares are up right now. I don't think they paint the picture you want them too. Personally I want facebook to do something interesting with the money its raised.
I'm drunk too, man. Merry Christmas!
Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
I'm not going to say Amazon does not have a good base, they obviously do (I'm a prime member myself and plan to keep being so for a long time).
But Amazon has "only" 40 billion of cash on hand (or cash + cash equiv anyway). Apple has lots more than that. I would also say both Apple and Amazon have bases that are just as strong, with Apple having the slight edge overall simply because of the larger financial base.
In theory building strong competition for Amazon would not be as hard as building strong competition to Apple - although no-one seems to have had much luck beating Amazon overall.
So I would agree Amazon has a resilient base, but not "stronger than any other". It's as strong as it needs to be to offer serious competition in devices though.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Oh, yeah. Nobody ever thinks about IBM anymore. Even though they're about to knock Microsoft off their perch as "third largest technology company by market capitalization." IBM probably likes it that way.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
The Free Market and Capitalism at its best.
Until Amazon fixes their search, Google has absolutely nothing to worry about.
I come here for the love
I only buy books at Amazon. Let's start a movement. Books only at Amazon. Buy nothing from Google, except maybe cloud storage. Keep the web free - free from giant monopolies.
Better yet:
1. Buy books at Barnes and Noble.
2. Use a Kindle Tablet.
3. Listen to music on iTunes.
4. Search with Google.
5. Use Microsoft Xbox for gaming.
6. Use Linux for the desktop.
7. Watch movies on Netflix.
Let's see the advertisers figure that one out.