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Rivalry Building Between Amazon and Google
Amazon and Google, both giants in the online business world, started out as separate entities with two very different agendas. As each has grown into an empire, the overlapping areas of business between the two companies has grown as well. But with both companies moving strongly into the electronic device market, cloud services, and Amazon now building out its advertising network, they find themselves increasingly at odds, and 2013 may bring more direct battles."Amazon wants to be the one place where you buy everything. Google wants to be the one place where you find everything, of which buying things is a subset. So when you marry those facts I think you're going to see a natural collision," said VC partner Chi-hua Chien. Adds Reuters, "Not long after Bezos learned of Google's catalog plans, Amazon began scanning books and providing searchable digital excerpts. Its Kindle e-reader, launched a few years later, owes much of its inspiration to the catalog news, the executive said. Now, Amazon is pushing its online ad efforts, threatening to siphon revenue and users from Google's main search website."
While everyone is more interested in the rivalry of Google, Apple and Microsoft, Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
For us, rather than working together to smash us down with their mighty clubs.
Keep at it boys, keep at it.
While everyone is more interested in the rivalry of Google, Apple and Microsoft, Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
Nobody is interested in Microsoft. The "pack of four" includes *Facebook* over Microsoft.
I have to sideload the amazon app store on my android devices if I want it.
This does not take a rocket scientist to figure out.
Silence is a state of mime.
The reality of the new world order, is the "pack of four" do have massive overlap in business, but that is just the way it should be. Its good old fashioned competition. Everyone has a store; Everyone had apps; Everyone owns an advertising company, Everyone has hardware [Ok Facebook only rumoured since forever, and Amazon new rumoured around a phone].
Personally I think the consumer needs to protected with cross platform; patent free formats, and the ability to move between devices as easily [and I mean Apps too] as possible to protect consumers from being locked into any one ecosystem.
Amazon AWS hosts Netflix and it was done for hours yesterday. Based on that I'd say +1 Google in the systems reliability front.
I take it you don't have any apps on Amazon huh? Their sales, from everything I've seen, are drops in the bucket compared to the play store
I don't torrent. I bought programs from amazon unbox service. I thought paying $1.99 for programs was fair... OK, I have to wait until the next day because the broadcast networks/cable people have an anti consumer bent towards people "buying" media from them. I'll spare you the rant about the the people who watch the shows being the product vs the shows themselves.
What is hugely obnoxious is that Amazon is using its position to punish people. You can't get the amazon player for android even though you can get it for the Kindle (which is based on android) and surprise you can get it for the iPad. So none of the content that I paid for will work on my Nexus 7.
Now I just wait for the DVD sets to hit the library.
I think banning humans would go a long way to solving the world's problems.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Recently as part of Googles defence against Microsofts smear campaign against "Shopping search monopoly" Amzason where given as an example of where 40% of shoppers go first.
I hope we will see the rise of cyberpunk with real competing technology businesses with their own secret task-forces and total disregard for human life in order to turn a profit and curb their competition!
In little more than a blink of an eye we're going to experience the heat-death of the universe, where there will never be anything - ever, anywhere - again. And you want to talk about kids?
We are about to go over the fiscal cliff and you want to talk about starving children?
Microsoft has a near monopoly on Business servers.... Swingline sells a lot of Red Staplers too. Smead sells a lot of hanging file folders. 3M sells a lot of stickie squares.... Lots of companies have very profitable, near monopolies... But they aren't interesting to Wall Street anymore.
Microsoft has sold just about as many copies of Windows as they can.. On every possible platform. The only place they GROW is in XBox living room machines... But that's a really crowded market that the players are just taking different sizes of pie.... There's NO NEW PIE being created. Apple and Google and Amazon are creating new KINDS of pie ... Microsoft isn't.
Which is the more evil? Just advertising? Or stealing person info and selling it, or placing ads based on it?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Microsoft has a near monopoly on Business servers.... Swingline sells a lot of Red Staplers too. Smead sells a lot of hanging file folders. 3M sells a lot of stickie squares.... Lots of companies have very profitable, near monopolies... But they aren't interesting to Wall Street anymore.
Microsoft has sold just about as many copies of Windows as they can.. On every possible platform. The only place they GROW is in XBox living room machines... But that's a really crowded market that the players are just taking different sizes of pie.... There's NO NEW PIE being created. Apple and Google and Amazon are creating new KINDS of pie ... Microsoft isn't.
Cow pies.
If only it were Chihuahua... chien is "dog" in French :)
I want to play Free Market with a drowning Libertarian.
I think banning humans would go a long way to solving the world's problems.
Skynet? Is that you?
only a fucking moron says this.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I'm still not sure that's the case. Google is in more trouble if Microsoft gets mobile devices right. The only thing outside of search/advertising that google have done well and can fall back on is mobile devices. Anyone who can take that away from them is a pretty big threat. They've just been lucky that Apple only cares about the high end of the market and Microsoft has largely been useless in portable computing.
Facebook does indeed do advertising but given how many complaints there have been to how useful it actually is, I just can't see it growing leaps and bounds outside of their own sites. If Facebook do a phone it'll probably be Android based making it easier for Google to cause them problems. I can't see FB making their own mobile OS or forking Android and maintaining their own seperate branch.
I'm drunk too, man. Merry Christmas!
Amazon has steadily charted up year after year building a base that is more resilient than that of any other.
I'm not going to say Amazon does not have a good base, they obviously do (I'm a prime member myself and plan to keep being so for a long time).
But Amazon has "only" 40 billion of cash on hand (or cash + cash equiv anyway). Apple has lots more than that. I would also say both Apple and Amazon have bases that are just as strong, with Apple having the slight edge overall simply because of the larger financial base.
In theory building strong competition for Amazon would not be as hard as building strong competition to Apple - although no-one seems to have had much luck beating Amazon overall.
So I would agree Amazon has a resilient base, but not "stronger than any other". It's as strong as it needs to be to offer serious competition in devices though.
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Microsoft has a near monopoly on Business servers
On what planet?
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Oh, yeah. Nobody ever thinks about IBM anymore. Even though they're about to knock Microsoft off their perch as "third largest technology company by market capitalization." IBM probably likes it that way.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
"if Microsoft gets mobile devices right"
You speak as if Microsoft is a newcomer.
They have botched the job for 15 years now.
They would still be pushing WinCE 6.5 with minor tweaks if somebody else didn't show them how to make a real OS. And associated eco-system.
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
Until Amazon fixes their search, Google has absolutely nothing to worry about.
I come here for the love
I've not used Windows Phone 7 for long enough to really know the UI, but I've played with enough devices to be impressed by the UI (Microsoft Research is the building behind me, so I see a lot of them). It's far from perfect, but then so are iOS and Android, and it's in the same ballpark. In contrast the old WinCE, was a usability disaster. I suspect that their biggest problem is that they only allow .NET code to run, which makes it hard to port code from other platforms to theirs.
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I agree. The worst smart phone I ever owned was a Windows mobile phone. Trying to recreate windows on a phone was a dumb idea. Making it buggier than anything else was just retarded. That said they do appear to be getting better at it and as someone who owned a G1, android was a bit shit in the beginning too. If Microsoft keeps copying the right things and make it work well enough they could get lucky. Maybe they won't but Microsoft is still a compeitotor on office software too and they're very slowly getting into social media (too late imo but they're doing it) so all around they're making attempts at things that Google does where as Facebook just has Facebook.
Better yet:
1. Buy books at Barnes and Noble.
2. Use a Kindle Tablet.
3. Listen to music on iTunes.
4. Search with Google.
5. Use Microsoft Xbox for gaming.
6. Use Linux for the desktop.
7. Watch movies on Netflix.
Let's see the advertisers figure that one out.