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FCC Smooths the Path For Airlines' In-Flight Internet
The Washington Post reports on a development that may push Internet access on commercial aircraft from a pleasant luxury (but missing on most U.S. domestic flights) to commonplace. Writes the Post:
"The Federal Communications Commission on Friday approved an application process for airlines to obtain broadband Internet licenses aboard their planes. Previously, airlines were granted permission on an ad hoc basis. Airlines need the FCC’s permission to tap into satellite airwaves while in flight that enable passengers to access the Internet. They also need permission from the Federal Aviation Administration, which oversees the safety of inflight Internet systems." I hope that on-board Internet not only becomes the default, but that free advertising-backed access does, too; especially for short flights, the "24-hour pass" paid access I've seen on United and Delta is tempting, but too pricey.
Think it is likely to remain too pricey for now. Too many price-insensitive business travelers willing to pay *any* price with the corporate credit card. Maybe the airlines can make it up on volume at a lower price point or figure out how to tier it properly, but seems like a good deal they have going now.
Would a thunk that consumer wireless devices trying to access the internet were safe. I mean those big fancy planes and their temperamental electronics.
Hopefully homeland security does not weigh in, some terrorist could communicate with onboard agents of nefarious intent.
Please, for the love of God, Xenu, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster, no, not in-flight internet that screws with the stream and inserts its own ads into it, or intercepts random http requests and redirects them to interstitial ads. Taco Bell in South Florida tried that a few months ago, and it broke SO FUCKING MANY Android apps it isn't funny (because the access point's stupid software couldn't tell the difference between a http request for a web page, and a http request made to some web service whose client app is just going to crash and burn if it gets a 302 redirect in a context where the real app would never, ever return one).
GoGo uses cellular service, not sat links. The whole thing about using your cell phone on an aircraft is utter bullshit and has been since day one.
Heres an map old map of some of their towers.
http://www.gadling.com/2009/12/07/aircell-headquarters-chicago-internet/
Analog cell phones worked just fine on aircraft. Digital doesn't have the power to do it at 35k feet, of course, you also have a battery that'll last a couple days instead of just one with digital but thats another argument and that problem can be addresses as well.
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I don't really need internet access on a flight, but when I'm on a 3 hour flight and I am running so many applications on my laptop that my battery is only good for 2 hours, I would really love to have an outlet to plug in and keep my battery charged. Unfortunately most of the planes I've been on in the past 7-10 years have been of the regional jet variety which generally don't have AC outlets for anyone.
As much as I generally am rather fond of the EmbraerJets, I am rather annoyed that they never give me anywhere to plug in my laptop, it would well offset my frustration over the inability to stand up in the aisle.
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BS. It hasn't been 'expensive' for a few years. See my previous post. Its no more expensive to do it on an airplane than it is to do it on a cell phone. In fact, ITS EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
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WiFi on Southwest is only $5 per day right now, which is less than gogo charges for WiFi in the airport!
Seriously, it's obviously been decided that it's as safe to use wifi inflight as it is around coffee machines and baristas, so why make an application process? Or does Starbucks has to apply now? Oh, wait, I missed that part about the FCC. Sorry I raised the question.
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Aircraft will be using something like HughesNet. They might have to throttle the onboard WiFi speeds to keep everyone from streaming video simultaneously. But for web surfing, e-mail, some gaming (latency might be an issue), etc. it will be just fine. And for reasonable* prices.
* Nothing like millions of dollars per plane per year.
Have gnu, will travel.
WiFi on Southwest is only $5 per day right now, which is less than gogo charges for WiFi in the airport!
And in my experience, it's HORRIBLY slow. Last time I went to Texas, I noticed the return AUS->BNA flight had it and figured "why not?" Web pages took forever to load and would frequently time out, the onboard hosted content wasn't exactly snappy, and even AIM and IRC had trouble keeping a connection.
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Assuming, of course, that they don't get FAP'ed within 12 minutes of takeoff, and end up with an entire plane sharing the equivalent of dialup 9600 baud.
Yes, it is slow. When I have used it, it gave me slightly better than dial-up speeds and, on occasion, I would lose connectivity for a few minutes. Basically, good enough for email and light surfing. I also downloaded a few PDFs.
On the other hand, I am sitting 7 miles in the air, moving at several hundred miles an hour and able to access the Internet! Sure, it isn't a great connection, but I'm 7 miles in the air - so I think it's pretty sweet.
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The FAA, they always seem to be on that leading edge of change.
I guess you're thinking of ACARS which is a system that was developed in the 1970's. Did you perhaps think that technology might have advanced since then?
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This can't be an issue for most, and going by all the press over the last year this isn't the problem that most people are concerned with.
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I guess you should explain that to Virgin Airlines.
Think of it now. We all know how much WiFi sucks when it's overused. That's what advertising-supported on-board Internet will be like. It will be slow (the bandwidth to the ground is single-digit megabits per second, so divide that by 50 to 300 passengers - and some passengers will have multiple devices).
On the other hand, charge a a few bucks for it and only the people who really want it will pay for it. Yes, some will be business users, but I already think the pay-per-day prices aren't all that bad. If I'm bored, especially on a a long flight, I'll happily pay ten or twenty bucks to go online and kill some time. If the fun or utility of the Internet isn't high enough, I'll do something else that doesn't cost me anything, just like I do now.
If it's free I fear that there will be dozens of people on a plane trying to watch streaming video or listen to streaming audio, or running torrents t get content. The layperson just doesn't understand how bandwidth works. They have tens of megabits at home and they expect they'll have it everywhere, but they can't and they won't. Every user will struggle to get dialup speeds if the now-precious resource is just given away for free.
it's kind of sad that we lose this justification for making applications work off line. Things like Office 2013 and even OS login may start requiring internet access to not crash. I'm all for progress though
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If he's talking speeds as fast as 10s of kilobytes per second, he's not thinking of any ACARS system I've worked with.
The reporter missed an extremely important piece of this story.....
the fact that the FCC's move to increase access to WIFI on planes fails to take into consideration the levels of increased exposure passengers receive from WIFI's microwave radiation within the metal enclosures of planes. The FDA and FCC are mandated by Congress to monitor and protect citizens from the known health hazards from microwave radiation exposure.
And, they are failing to do so!
Nowhere in the FCC's 90 page document advocating for increased access to broadband on planes is mention of potential health impacts in spite of the World Health Organization declaring that exposure to microwave radiation from wireless devices may cause cancer.....placing RF exposure in the same category as lead and DDT.
The FCC is run by the telecom industry and our elected officials are "bought off" by enormous campaign contributions which demand they look the other way.
It is disappointing that media is not covering the REAL story here.
As the CIA has already nicely cleared the issue for travelers, if something is done at an aircraft, is is not really a concern of any jurisdiction. Please enjoy the total freedom of an airborne wifi network, semi-responsively.
Please no! I mean.. internet is just not that expensive. They can offer free low speed internet (for email and web browsing, chat, etc.) just as they can offer free water. Since there will be 100 people on the plaine, if you want super high speed internet for like streaming movies maybe you should pay $5 or something. Ads just annoy everyone.
The increased radiation from being at 35k feet is far far worse than wifi, or even an X-ray or two.
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Foreign flagged airlines solved this long. It's only the protectionist rules of the FAA the keep foreign airlines from flying domestic routes that keep already-equipped- for-Internet AND 120 ac power from us skies. That and us airlines not maintaining or upgrading capital equipment so they can make a few more bucks. Fuck US- flagged airlines!