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How Google Glass Is Evolving As It Heads For Release To Developers

hypnosec writes "Babak Parviz, the founder and head of Project Glass at Google, has revealed that the feature set of Google Glass and state of apps is still in flux and that there is a lot of testing going on at the moment. In an interview with IEEE Spectrum, Parviz provided insights into Project Glass, the reasons behind having such a gadget and what's there for the project in near future. Parviz said that they are trying out new ideas and ways in which the platform can be used while also trying to make the platform more robust. There is no specific feature set that Google has been talking about and 'It is still in flux.'" My favorite question / answer pair: "IEEE Spectrum: What kind of business model is associated with Google Glass? Babak Parviz: This is still being worked on, but we are quite interested in providing the hardware."

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  1. what's Project Glass? by corbettw · · Score: 5, Informative

    In case, like me, you had never heard of this project:

    Project Glass is a research and development program by Google to develop an augmented reality head-mounted display (HMD).[2] Project Glass products would display information in smartphone-like format[3] hands-free and could interact with the Internet via natural language voice commands.[4] The prototype's functionality and minimalist appearance (aluminium strip with 2 nose pads) has been compared to Steve Mann's EyeTap.[5][6]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Glass

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    1. Re:what's Project Glass? by stokessd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Go easy on the guy. I'm no stranger to slashdot, but I had to run to google to verify that project glass was the VR glasses and not some other google project brewing in the labs. I had read about it at least twice, but find it so unappealing to me that I don't keep it in my mind for long.

      This strikes me as a solution looking for a problem.

  2. one business model: military by ofcourseyouare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    About business models: the only set of people I can think of who use something like Google Glass at the moment are military pilots, who have had head-up displays for decades and are getting helmet-mounted displays at the moment. Why do they find it useful? Because they need information instantly, don't have their hands free, have huge budgets available and don't care if they look like a cyborg. So there's a clue for a target market: the military. I imagine a squad on patrol would find it useful to have information on the area they're walking through sent to them in real time without having to take their hands off their weapons or look down; and their commanders would find it useful to be able to see what the troops are seeing in real time. They could afford a far higher budget than most civilians, and looking like a freakish cyborg from Hell could potentially be a bonus. Only issue: surely DARPA's on this already? But maybe Google could do it better...

    1. Re:one business model: military by Dr.+Zim · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm sure law enforcement would be happy to have the same tech.

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    2. Re:one business model: military by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Landwarrior

      The army has been developing it since the mid 1990's

    3. Re:one business model: military by rocket+rancher · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The military aren't the only ones that could really benefit from this technology. I ride motorcycles for fun and profit, and I can assure you having gear, engine, and lap data displayed in my visor is pretty awesome. Adding location/terrain data in real time would be nirvana. If google can do it as well as or better than the existing offerings, and I'm fairly certain they can, then I can look forward to becoming a faster, safer rider with more (read: economically viable) commercial options for my HUD. I'm working with a friend who is passionate about aerial photography to hack together a way to stream video data from a gopro mounted on a quadcopter right to my visor so I can "see" over hills and around blind turns when I'm taking a ride on my favorite winding mountain road. Streaming it to a Nexus 10 bungeed to my tank works pretty good right now, even with the 2 second video lag that plagues the preview mode on the gopro app, but I'd *love* to be able to see the same data without having to take my eye off the road to glance down. As it is, being able to see that sheriff's deputy lurking in hull-defilade beyond the next rise five seconds before his lidar can see me is *priceless.* If google can help make that happen, more power to them. I think every snowmobiler, skier, kayaker, and off-road enthusiast would be a very likely target for this technology.

    4. Re:one business model: military by ducomputergeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Until the Army realized that putting a computer on every soldiers back only paints a target on them for any opposing force with even minimal ELINT capabilities with off the shelf gear these days.

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    5. Re:one business model: military by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      Motorcyclists, civilian pilots, race car drivers, Police, Firefighters, everyday drivers, mechanics, doctors....
      Really the list goes on and on. I know that when riding my motorcycle I would like to see my current speed without taking my eyes off the road. Put a computer controlled zoom macro lens on them for doctors or anyone needing to do close up work. IR imaging for Police and Firefighters,

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  3. Google decides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many ads per hour will be displayed. You thought there wouldn't be ads? haha

    1. Re:Google decides by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google owns a hardware manufacturing company now. They could very easily do this as a pure-hardware play and make lots of money.

      Google owns a hardware company that makes negative lots of money.

  4. Does not bode well by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This does not bode well. You cannot just have a new computing form factor and throw stuff at it to see what sticks. I figured this far in development google would have a very clear direction for the platform. I hate to constantly make comparisons to apple, but if you look at their successful products, you'll see they had a clear focus and vision for it from the software standpoint. One of the main reasons the iPhone was a success (besides the capacitive touch breakthrough) was the software. That's how apple beat Microsoft's Windows Mobile, which even after a decade, never managed to provide a proper 100% touch only (aka no stylus) experience.

    It looks to me like Google is treating google glass like a hardware web browser, for which they will have a bunch of "beta" projects and see what works and what doesn't. They'd better be careful, or software-wise a competitor will come along with a focused, unified, well rounded software experience and blow them out of the water.

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    1. Re:Does not bode well by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd rather have a pure hardware platform that can do anything, try it at a series of things and see what it's most useful for. That's how actual creativity and innovation happens. A 'targetted' product is a more limited product. I'd like to see things run as open platforms, not appliances.

    2. Re:Does not bode well by timeOday · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You cannot just have a new computing form factor and throw stuff at it to see what sticks.

      I don't think there is any other way to do it. Hardware and software advance in lockstep (or maybe a 3 legged race?)

      I hate to constantly make comparisons to apple, but if you look at their successful products, you'll see they had a clear focus and vision for it from the software standpoint.

      Apple's App Store didn't exist for the first year after the iPhone was released. The iTunes store wasn't opened until a year and a half after the iPod launched.

    3. Re:Does not bode well by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      " You cannot just have a new computing form factor and throw stuff at it to see what sticks."
      No, you're wrong. That is exactly what happened with PC or as we called them back in the day home computers. The same is true with mobile phones and even tablets. The first iPhone didn't even have an app store while Windows Phone, Nokia, and Palm all offered apps of different kinds. Heck even my Samsung a900 had apps like navigation, the Opera browser, and games.
      Your remembrance of the iPhone is way off. The original vision was to provide a really good web browser and for people to write web apps.
      Google Glass is a new platform and it may or may not work. For the longest time the tablets were flops except for small PDA like tablets. Even when Apple launched the iPad the tech press panned it. "Why would you want a big iPod Touch". Smart phones where something only business people spent money on. People bought the first home computers to put recipes on, make shopping lists, and and balance their checkbook.... Which we now do with our tablets and phones.
      Yep throw it out there and see what sticks. It may "fail" in that it does not sell tens of million devices but it will be interesting to see what people do.

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    4. Re:Does not bode well by strikethree · · Score: 2

      This does not bode well. You cannot just have a new computing form factor and throw stuff at it to see what sticks.

      I vehemently but respectfully disagree. When you are in utterly "new" space, you can not imagine what could be available until the realities of the space you are in impinge upon your consciousness.

      It looks to me like Google is treating google glass like a hardware web browser, for which they will have a bunch of "beta" projects and see what works and what doesn't.

      I am of the opinion that your view of reality is too restricted to be valuable in undiscovered country. That is not an insult, just an observation. The world needs all types.

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  5. There was a sci fi book ... by perpenso · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read it as a teenager and can not remember the title or author's name, but there was a book where everyone wore glasses with a camera built in. The result was a society heavy on surveillance. There was no need for the government to setup a lot of cameras. Ordinary citizens were constantly submitting their videos to the police or relevant authorities.

    1. Re:There was a sci fi book ... by Zemran · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The really surreal part is that under the current legal system, transmitting./supplying child porn across the internet is a more serious crime than actually having sex with a child. The point is that seeing something, wearing these, can be more of a crime than doing it and you are going to provide the evidence against yourself...

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  6. Good one. by AltGrendel · · Score: 2

    My favorite question / answer pair: "IEEE Spectrum: What kind of business model is associated with Google Glass? Babak Parviz: This is still being worked on, but we are quite interested in providing the hardware."

    Probably my favorite non-answer answer of 2012.

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    1. Re:Good one. by TrekkieGod · · Score: 2

      My favorite question / answer pair: "IEEE Spectrum: What kind of business model is associated with Google Glass? Babak Parviz: This is still being worked on, but we are quite interested in providing the hardware." Probably my favorite non-answer answer of 2012.

      I don't get it. It's a perfectly good answer. He's saying they intend to make money on selling the hardware, but that this is also probably not the only way in which they'll monetize glass. Not ambiguous at all, and considering the development stage at the moment, about where I'd expect them to be.

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  7. Inputs. by Rational · · Score: 2

    As an output device, a pair of glasses makes a lot of sense â" the problem is inputs. Voice is very suboptimal (if you feel stupid talking to your phone, imagine talking to your glasses). A touch screen on a watch is pretty poor too. The only way I can see this succeeding is as a purely AI-driven, input-less device, which â"based on location and heuristicsâ" would basically know what to do in any given situation. In other wordsâ"this is a much harder problem than simply making a screen wearable enough.

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    1. Re:Inputs. by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Kinect has shown that gestures are a completely useful and acceptable means of input. If they have any technology similar, then we'll be making sign language - esque gestures to interact with the glasses.

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  8. 'Last thirty seconds' by benjfowler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think for me, the killer application would be having such a device record everything I see into a circular buffer, and then if some cockhead does something obnoxious or criminal in the street, it can be kept to either hand timestamped footage to police, or to shame said people on the Internet.

    The doomsayers may call it a totalitarian hell, but I think it could yet be a renaissance for the polite and law-abiding majority.

    1. Re:'Last thirty seconds' by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think for me, the killer application would be having such a device record everything I see into a circular buffer, and then if some cockhead does something obnoxious or criminal in the street, it can be kept to either hand timestamped footage to police, or to shame said people on the Internet.

      I'm going to go right ahead and call this a totalitarian hell. Millions of Mrs. Grundys with always-on recording. Having to justify after-the-fact every action I took that someone in the area took offense to would be a full time job.

      The doomsayers may call it a totalitarian hell, but I think it could yet be a renaissance for the polite and law-abiding majority.

      There is no polite and law-abiding majority. There are too many laws and too many rules (many conflicting) associated with "polite".

  9. More informant reports than gov't spying? by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    say wha?

    Where does government spying even come into play at the moment? I'm genuinely confused. Regardless, enabling easier spying goes both ways - it becomes easier to spy on the government too.

    Where does government spying even come into play at the moment? I'm genuinely confused.

    It may not be gov't spying as much as you are constantly surrounded by "informants". In the sci fi book I mentioned in a different post I recall adults, the older the more likely, constantly recording young people to deter vandalism, robberies, muggings, etc. Things devolved to the point where the smallest infraction of a rule led to a video being submitted to the police.

    No more yelling "get off my lawn". Instead a video titled "Johnny trespassing on my property" gets emailed to the police.

    1. Re:More informant reports than gov't spying? by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the sci fi book I mentioned in a different post I recall adults, the older the more likely, constantly recording young people to deter vandalism, robberies, muggings, etc. Things devolved to the point where the smallest infraction of a rule led to a video being submitted to the police.

      That's not sci fi, that's Japan.

  10. Re:Go ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not really, since the government can (and does) order wiretaps, the google glass now allows the wiretapper
    to see what the target sees.

    Wiretapping is strictly for governments (well, and criminals).

    I think I'd notice the sudden appearance of a pair of glasses on my face, seeing as how I don't wear them.

  11. And ordinary driver would find it useful ... by perpenso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A person driving a car would find it useful for the same reason that military pilots find it useful. A heads up display would keep the drivers eyes on the road. No more looking down at instruments, the screen with maps or rear view camera image; or looking at road signs for hazard warnings and other alerts.

    And of course since it is google there will probably be ads from the businesses that you are driving past. :-)

  12. Re:Go ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Works for the Amish I suppose.

    No it doesn't. The Amish have their own government, The Church. And believe, the same shit goes on in the Amish communities, neighbors running to the church to tell on their neighbors all the time. "I saw old man Joseph playing with his tally-whacker!! Sinner!", and then the church comes and whips his mule or something for punishment.

    No technology, but still a "Government" watching you. People are big time afraid of the church officials in the Amish communities.

  13. Still Waiting For Some Skydiving Goggles by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm still waiting for some skydiving goggles with a heads up display. Looking at my altimeter fucks up my airflow while I'm tracking. It'd also be really helpful to know my fall speed as I'm falling, so I can work on falling more slowly. I fall like a bat out of hell -- normal human terminal velocity is around 120 mph, but this is largely weight dependent. I know Galileo fans just had an aneurysm but you know what, fuck that guy! If you want to fall faster in skydiving, you add weight! Look it up! Anyway, I fall around 140 mph. Body position can also affect this, and I can fall much more slowly, but not consistently. Having some way to practice this other than exiting linked with someone and trying to maintain my speed relative to them would be really nice.

    Recon instruments has some heads up display ski googles and are releasing a modified set for skydiving, I'll give these a try, but it'd be neat if there were more options.

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  14. "There is no polite and law-abiding majority." by earls · · Score: 2

    There quickly will be. Laws and rules and all the other hypocritical bullshit that plagues our society today will be erased. Justice, finally. Until they make you take the device off to enter a Government building.

  15. No he is not saying that. by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    He's saying they intend to make money on selling the hardware

    He totally did NOT say that. As stated, it was a non-answer. There is no way you can get from "we are quite interested in providing the hardware." to "we intend to make money on the hardware". Totally on the table are still things like advertising, carrier subsidy, branding, etc. Basically anything you could imagine a way to make money on with these glasses is possible with the answer Google gave us, selling the hardware at a profit is only one of them.

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