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Security Firm Predicts "Murder By Internet-Connected Devices"
Curseyoukhan writes "Infosec vendor IID (Internet Identity) probably hopes that by the time 2014 rolls around no one will remember the prediction it just made. That is the year it says we will see the first murder via internet connected device. The ability to do this has been around for quite some time but the company won't say why it hasn't happened yet. Probably because that would have screwed up their fear marketing. CIO blogger challenges them to a $10K bet over their claim."
And how many drone strikes have been carried out over the past 10 years?
Like maybe 2013 might be the year of murder by internet-connected device.
APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
...but it looks like [SA]HatfulOfHollow has finally completed his killer device.... http://www.bash.org/?4281
Goatse certainly came close
Table-ized A.I.
And how many drone strikes have been carried out over the past 10 years?
The drones aren't connected to the internet, only military networks. Any peripheral traffic that happens to route anywhere out into the internet is on a secured VPN... and at that, it's only sensitive material, nothing that'll say, start world war three. The same cannot be said for, say, nuclear reactors and related industrial equipment (like centrifuges)... which apparently are. All that out of the way, who really cares what a couple of rich dudes do with their gambling money? But in the larger sense, yes, it will happen eventually as if there's one thing you can bet on long-term is that we'll find more creative ways to kill each other...
All this boils down to is one person betting on "sooner" and the other on "later".
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
Murder via internet (and a lot more), committed by someone who is dead. "Daemon" by Daniel Suarez. Interesting read. There is also a sequel, "Freedom".
Heisenberg may have been here.
Most remotely-triggered bombs made by extremists of various kinds are triggered by cellphones - so true in fact that some countries shut down their cell networks preventively. Cellphones use some kind of radio network and proprietary protocol for the last mile, but essentially, beyond that, telephony is entirely IP-based these days. You can even call a cellphone from a PC now with programs like Skype.
So I think essentially all recent bombing attacks can be called "murder by internet-connected devices".
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
was for sure going to be the year of Desktop Linux. Instead it's going to be the year of internet murders? Don't tell me we have to wait until Enlightenment 0.18 is fully baked?
Why would my car need a two-way comm channel on the Internet? I can possibly see reporting but accepting input? Why?
For providing entertainment and map, weather and traffic updates. That shouldn't be able to spill into the controls, but you never know.
Fear your pacemaker!!! People with heart problems will now have an increased risk of death!!!
Uh. Well you know what I mean. Fear!!!
I think "death by wifi enabled pacemaker" is most likely. It was covered previously, so now it's just a matter of time and effort for someone actually do it. Well, it's also required that someone with a pacemaker is hated enough by someone else who has access to get the serial number, etc. and then go through with murdering him/her or find someone else with the skills and inclination. That reduces your population of potential perpetrators.
Is it possible this will happen? Yes.
In the next 24 months? Yes.
Will it be found or proved? Probably not.
Hasn't Apple already murdered tons of people people in the Australian desert simply by sticking "Mildura" in the wrong spot? I'm sure of it. Either that or those Maps "victims" were awfully inconvenienced, probably missing their favorite reality TV shows, which is nearly as bad.
Alot of pacemakers have wireless with none or simple security... (why i have no fucking clue why we did that...)
100% undetectable too. Heart problems in a person with a pacemaker is not suspicious at all.
Why would my car need a two-way comm channel on the Internet? I can possibly see reporting but accepting input? Why?
For providing entertainment and map, weather and traffic updates. That shouldn't be able to spill into the controls, but you never know.
Not to mention enabling higher power profiles for the ECM's on a rental basis: selling such value added services directly to consumers has been something of a holy Grail for the car industry. If they could only lock out those pesky chip trimming shops.... The possibility for remote sabotage is one reason such services haven't taken off yet.
You should keep in mind that a lot of those are already possible. Lots of medical equipment runs on windows despite the EULA saying "don't use this for life-saving devices". A few years ago a few researchers demonstrated that it was possible to access a car with wifi, disable the brakes, and engage the accelerator.
The idiot engineers that design these things don't bother implementing 1-way data transfer (e.g. allow car to report engine statistics but don't allow reprogramming remotely), encryption, or any security measures at all. They rely entirely on obscurity to prevent these devices being used maliciously.
Until someone dies, it's not a problem. When someone does die, they have enough lawyers to prevent the family that just lost someone from suing them.
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One major vector that would be ripe for abuse would be a combination of "self driving car", + "malicious GPS map update".
Eg, the self driving car would have sensors to determine it is on an actual road, of course. But that doesn't stop the car from autodriving off an unfinished bypass rampway, when its map software says the road is finished.
This wouldn't necessarily be able to target a specific vehicle without a pretty sophisticated man in the middle attack, (how you would do that is questionable in and of itself, perhaps if you put the middleman directly ON the car? Malicious android device, or a raspberry pi? But if you do that, why not just put a pipebomb like normal terrorists would?) But would work with a remote DNS injection attack against an entire vehicle product line, with disasterous effects all over. The attacker just needs to know when vehicles contact the map server, poison the DNS for the server, and then serve the malicious maps to updating vehicles when they connect.
I agree, in principle. However, it's reality that counts, and in reality, the murderers will get away with it because of who they are. Just like abusive cops will get away with their abuses. It sucks, but double-standards always do.
Given that more & more surgery is being done remotely over the internet surely Windows Automatic Update has already achieved this!
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
Bad luck film producer. Plans to make the major science fiction film of the year, releases it in the same year as The Terminator.
Firm with vested interest in selling you "stuff" is *very* concerned that "stuff" might happen. Buy now whilst stocks last !
Sky subscribers are morons. They pay to be advertised at !
I predict that someone will come up with the bright idea of hooking up some medical device to Facebook. It will seem like a "good idea at the time" to someone for some reason only god knows. One of the guy's friends will submit a score challenge for a Facebook game, and trip some godforsaken undocumented bug in the API, causing the device to malfunction. All of a sudden, it will become a lot more important to have a high score in <insert game here>.
IID predicts for 2013 that criminals will leverage networked healthcare devices to carry out murders. My counter-theory is, that the first murder probably has already occurred; we and the police just didn't notice it. So 2013 may be the year the first murder via Internet device is proven.
During a BKA (German version of the FBI) conference, i made a remark that got me nationwide media attention in 2000: "In the Internet you'll find anything but murder." I wish i could say this with the same conviction today as i did back then (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/BKA-hat-Muehe-mit-der-Internet-Kriminalitaet-16354.html).
I think those happy days Daniel Suarez envisioned have already arrived.
An "Infosec" vendor that no one knows and cares makes big prediction about how future hackers would kill you with compromised Internet devices. You need protection! We offer it! Remember our name so we stay relevant!
I would probably consider this news (that is in no way interesting and informative) if this prediction is made by Symantec, McAfee or Kaspersky. Put some obscure "IID" here and it just smells so slash-PR.
Someone just needs to slap a patent on this Murder "with a internet connected device" and wait for the royalties to come in.
I came up with this idea about 3 years ago, when working with network cameras. Should have patented something right away.
...with the TV remote control, that's when we were 8-9 years old. I'm pretty sure he could kill me these days with some blunt piece of electronics
What are we talking about here? When my wife beats me to death with her iPad because I've been too busy playing Far Cry 3 for the past 2 weeks to take out the garbage or bathe?
You are welcome on my lawn.
I am confused, are you talking about NCIS or Homeland? Both shows are really not the best in my opinion. Nothing like Dexter, Breaking Bad or Shameless (UK, of course).
Tomorrow is another day...