Star Wars Live-Action Show Could Still Happen

An anonymous reader writes "According to ABC entertainment president Paul Lee: 'We'd love to do something with Lucasfilm, we're not sure what yet. We haven't even sat down with them. We're going to look at [the Star Wars live-action TV series], we're going to look at all of them, and see what's right. We weren't even able to discuss this with them until [the deal] closed and it just closed. It's definitely going to be part of the conversation.' Not only that, but it's also been announced that some of the 50 completed episode scripts that producer Rick McCallum has previously mentioned have been written by none other than Ron Moore of Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica fame."

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[girlintraining]

I believe I speak for most of the fan base when I say simply: You better not have a writer's strike in season 3, followed by management going full retard as dollar signs flash before their eyes. One series has already paid the price for that. If you ruin another geek culture icon, there'll be hell to pay.

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[Anonymous Coward]

season 3

C-3PO's Brain?

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[Grishnakh]

Oh please. This geek culture icon has already been thoroughly ruined by the Prequel movies. There's nothing more they can do to hurt it at this point, it'd be beating a dead horse.

I'm really disappointed that Ron Moore wasted his time writing scripts for this turkey, instead of devoting his talents to something more productive and worthwhile. Can the guy not come up with a unique new sci-fi show on his own? Or is he only able to write episodes for someone else's show, or come up with shows that are rehashes of old shows? Don't get me wrong, the new BSG was pretty good and the the writing in the episodes (particularly the earlier ones and pilot; it seemed to kinda fall apart later on) was excellent, but it was still not a unique concept, it was a remake of someone else's older show. But Star Wars of all things? SW has been crap ever since Ep.1. Surely he could come up with a unique new concept for a good sci-fi TV show.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Only one series? BSG is when it started, but since then every fucking series that could possibly have had potential that syfy has produced has suffered the same fate.

Pay attention ABC! Do this to star wars and there's going to be a fucking riot.

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[TWX]

Have it revealed that some humans are actually droids? Have it turn out that Han and Leia are somehow also brother/sister, or that Han is a blood-relative of the Fett line? Or have Keira Knightley's character return and have Luke go for someone that's too old for him and looks like his mother?

Don't get me wrong, I like Ron Moore's work more than I dislike it, but there is plenty to dislike and plenty of places that it can go full derp.

At least Moore has a sense of humor about it. There was an epsiode of CSI set at a convention for a fictional sci-fi show, and the show was "reimagined" in the same vein as BSG and after showing the teaser for it, out in the crowd, Ron Moore shouted, "YOU SUCK!" at the writer/producer of the new show. This was based on an experience that he actually had.

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[wonkey_monkey]

If you ruin another geek culture icon, there'll be hell to pay.

They're quite capable of ruining Star Wars* without a writer's strike.

*again

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[wonkey_monkey]

Also:

If you ruin another geek culture icon, there'll be hell to pay.

No there won't. There'll be a few angry nerds that no-one in charge will care about because they're already picking through next season's must watch TV. Monkey Tennis, Cooking in Prison, and so forth.

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[mcgrew]

Oh please. This geek culture icon has already been thoroughly ruined by the Prequel movies.

It's been my observation that the only ones who share your opinion were children when EPIV came out. I was in my twenties, and about the only difference I saw was the effects and costumes were far better in the prequels.

As an adult watching them, the one that ruined the franchise was EPVI. I mean, Jesus... those midgets in the cheezy bear costumes were REALLY lame. I had to forget just how bad VI was to even watch EPI; if that had come out two years after EPVI I probably wouldn't even have watched it.

IMO, EPIII was excellent, especially the opening scene with the big space battle, and the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader. I see bitching about the "mitichlorians" but you have to remember, these aren't human, they're aliens from another time and another galaxy. That alone demands a HUGE suspension of disbelief -- a race from another galaxy looks exactly like us?? That's harder to swallow than FTL travel.

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[ButchDeLoria]

Let's just agree that EPVI was the weakest of the origninal trilogy. Doesn't mean that EPI-III aren't still shit.

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[DerekLyons]

If you ruin another geek culture icon, there'll be hell to pay.

if by 'hell" you mean "more nerdrage on blogs and forums by a meaningless minority that will have no detectable effect on the bottom line", then sure. Otherwise, not so much.

Get over yourself. Nerds don't pay the bills, never have. never will.

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[linebackn]

I don't know about anyone else, but one of the reasons I enjoy watching sci-fi shows is to explore the universe someone created. When the universe is thoroughly explored or the consistency is shot to hell, then it just might as well be any show.

The problem is that big corps prefer to take the "safe" route and put money behind things that are already well known and tested, even if they are mediocre.

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[Grishnakh]

Exactly, that's why we wind up with tons of shitty sequels. It's a safer investment than something new and different.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Riot all you want, you don't impact what's produced for television - you're outvoted by all the Housewives of xxx fans.

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[Anonymous Coward]

If riots worked, Firefly would have come back a dozen times.

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[JeanCroix]

Oh please. This geek culture icon has already been thoroughly ruined by the Prequel movies. There's nothing more they can do to hurt it at this point, it'd be beating a dead horse.

I'd beg to differ. Hokey CGI comedy relief characters >> angsty tween romance characters. Have you *seen* the previews for the spate of crap coming out soon courting the Twi-hards? There are depths the Star Wars folks have yet to plumb; let's pray they don't.

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[JeanCroix]

Monkey Tennis...

I am intrigued.

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[Grishnakh]

Well to be fair, I'm not comparing the SW prequels (or any other possible spin-offs, even if they're specifically written to have dialog just as "high quality" as Lucas's best) to the absolute worst imaginable dreck coming out of Hollywood, I'm just looking at it on its own merits. At some point, stuff gets so bad that it's kinda pointless to compare how bad it is. Is the Twi-hard-courting-crap better or worse than Gigli, for instance? Or how about Battlefield: Earth? Who cares? There's a lower cut-off point at which it ceases to matter, because you're just not going to bother going to watch it, unless perhaps you're planning to make a MST3K-like episode.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Apparently, Andromeda was originally suppoed to be a Star Trek series, with one ship (presumably some form of Enterprise) having survived the fall of the Federation.

That would have been a series worth watching, I think. (especially considering how Andromeda fired the main writer early on and never recovered).

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[Anonymous Coward]

Okay, I have to ask - what series are you referring to?

BSG? Enterprise? Andromeda? Something else?

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[JeanCroix]

I was just pointing out that there exist popular bandwagons they could choose to jump on which, at least in my mind, could do more to hurt it than the prequels ever did. But I agree with you that after that point, why even bother keeping score any more?

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[Anonymous Coward]

If you ruin another geek culture icon, there'll be hell to pay.

What are you going to do? Whine on Slashdot? That'll show them.

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[spire3661]

"They look like us, and they have a plan" Yeah, excellent writing there. Im sorry but when taken as a whole, BSG was utter trash.

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[Anonymous Coward]

There'll be a few angry nerds

To add clarification, these are exactly the same angry nerds that said "episode 6 ruined the trilogy" and then "episode 1 ruined the story" and develop cults around specific authors as well as creating canonicity charts where "Greedo shot first" is less canon than "Han Solo is Mandalorian Jedi with amnesia."

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[LandDolphin]

That could have been a great series.

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[lxs]

Ah the Firefly riots of '03... I must have forgotten about them.

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[niado]

Oh please. This geek culture icon has already been thoroughly ruined by the Prequel movies.

It's been my observation that the only ones who share your opinion were children when EPIV came out. I was in my twenties, and about the only difference I saw was the effects and costumes were far better in the prequels.

As an adult watching them, the one that ruined the franchise was EPVI. I mean, Jesus... those midgets in the cheezy bear costumes were REALLY lame. I had to forget just how bad VI was to even watch EPI; if that had come out two years after EPVI I probably wouldn't even have watched it.

IMO, EPIII was excellent, especially the opening scene with the big space battle, and the fight between Obi-Wan and Vader. I see bitching about the "mitichlorians" but you have to remember, these aren't human, they're aliens from another time and another galaxy. That alone demands a HUGE suspension of disbelief -- a race from another galaxy looks exactly like us?? That's harder to swallow than FTL travel.

Woah woah wee-woah woah. First off, the human-like creatures in star wars are canonically human . Theories regarding their connection to earth are diverse, but the connection has not been explained in canon.

Regarding the movies - EPVI is a personal favorite of mine, though I will concede that many fans (especially those who were adults when EPVI was released) are turned off by the Ewoks. I also enjoyed some scenes in EPIII, specifically the ones you mention. There were actually scenes in all three of the prequels that were well done and thoroughly enjoyable (ref. DM vs. QGJ in EPI). The primary complaints, especially from the more "hard-core" fanbase are with silly plot and lore related changes that were made for seemingly no good reason. Also, casting for some critical characters was worse-than-terrible (e.g. Anakin).

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[Anonymous Coward]

Please, I saw EPVI in the theater as a child, and I hated those damn muppets even then.

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[Grishnakh]

Yep; the only reason to pay any attention at that point might be for the amusement factor. But personally, I stopped paying much attention to anything Star Wars-related after seeing Ep.2.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, the prequels aren't that bad. I hate to admit it but I think I was wrong. I'm a long-time geek who also felt the prequels ruined the franchise when they were first released. But over xmas, I did a marathon, watching IV, V, VI and then I, II, III and actually, they are pretty good movies and are growing on me. I might be a fan again. Here's hoping Disney doesn't mess it up...

TV show? who knows.

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[elfprince13]

Say what? Han Solo is Correllian.

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[Anonymous Coward]

My biggest let-down for the new BSG series would read as a repitition of the complaints about the old series.
It was FAR too religious to be completely awesome. too much "there is only one God" crap spewing from the lead Cylon's mouth, and a final episode that is right out of many creation myths.

why couldn't they focus on the war, the human issues (humans that help the Cylons for personal gain, etc.), and how a small group of people can survive the complete destruction of their civilization without resorting to religion-bashing or forced conversion?

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[Grishnakh]

They might've been watchable if they weren't totally ruined by the horrible dialog. That's easily the worst part about them. A middle-school kid could write better dialog than that.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Keira Knightley

Bwuh? Did you mean Natalie Portman?

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[GodfatherofSoul]

Ruined for you maybe. I really liked the prequels. It's fun for geeks to slam them, but they sure do draw a hell of a lot of sales and eyeballs. You're going to find out what "ruined" means when Disney starts milking the franchise for whatever it's worth.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Keira Knightley was in Episode I.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The cylons had a plan. The writers did not.

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[PRMan]

Yep; the only reason to pay any attention at that point might be for the amusement factor. But personally, I stopped paying much attention to anything Star Wars-related after seeing Ep.2.

Too bad. Episode 3 was by far the best of the prequel trilogy.

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[Anonymous Coward]

The Jericho riots, on the other hand...

Seriously, CBS had to send its employees *home* if they had nut allergies!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anastasia-kousakis/when-fans-go-nuts-the-sto_b_86241.html

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[Your.Master]

I feel like the lone guy who really likes the Ewoks. The whole point is they look unassuming both physically and in terms of technology, and they still fight back (with a measure of success that can't just be attributed to the heroes). It's like Yoda, although Yoda at least had magic powers.

The Ewoks represented what is usually a tired trope for humans -- the physically and technologically weaker species that fights back through sheer iron will. Happens over and over in sci fi movies where humans are the weaker species and they just will themselves to beat the aliens. Not usually some other species using sheer will to beat the humans.

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[Richy_T]

I had no real problem with the Ewoks. Then again, the whole of the Endor-surface thing was the B-plot for me.

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[mcgrew]

First off, the human-like creatures in star wars are canonically human

Your source is incorrect. It says "Humans were the galaxy's most numerous and politically dominant sentient species with millions of major and minor colonies galaxywide. Believed to have originated on the galactic capital of Coruscant..." but it's supposed to be set "in a galaxy far, far away." Interstellar travel is enough of a stretch, intergalactic is WAY out of bounds. It might have been plausable if set in the Milky Way, but...

The thing that turned me off about the Ewoks were the cheesy costumes. Honestly, I've seen little kids dressed up for Halloween with better costumes. Odd that they didn't fix this in the digital remastering; that would have made it palatable. Instead they just added whiz-bang to the space scenes and Aniken at the end. Lame.

Don't get me started on how Lucas raped EPIV when they remastered that one. Not only the "Han shot first" bullshit (and Han shooting first was the least of the damage done to that scene; in the theater it cut to outside and you saw smoke and it looked like Greedo had killed Han. Plus adding that Jabba the Hut scene. Glad I still have the original, unraped tape.

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[niado]

First off, the human-like creatures in star wars are canonically human

Your source is incorrect. It says "Humans were the galaxy's most numerous and politically dominant sentient species with millions of major and minor colonies galaxywide. Believed to have originated on the galactic capital of Coruscant..." but it's supposed to be set "in a galaxy far, far away." Interstellar travel is enough of a stretch, intergalactic is WAY out of bounds. It might have been plausable if set in the Milky Way, but...

Intergalactic travel is certainly implausible, and the Star Wars universe has an interesting sort of reverse deus ex machina preventing most hyperspace travel outside the galaxy. There are, however, certain encroachments from outside the galaxy. Nevertheless, everything in canon indicates that the Star Wars humans are intended to be the same species (or at least, an evolutionary variant) as humans IRL. The connection to Earth is currently unexplained, as I mentioned before.

(sorry for the nerding-out here)

The thing that turned me off about the Ewoks were the cheesy costumes. Honestly, I've seen little kids dressed up for Halloween with better costumes.

I like the ewok costumes, but that's just me.

Don't get me started on how Lucas raped EPIV when they remastered that one. Not only the "Han shot first" bullshit (and Han shooting first was the least of the damage done to that scene; in the theater it cut to outside and you saw smoke and it looked like Greedo had killed Han. Plus adding that Jabba the Hut scene. Glad I still have the original, unraped tape.

Agree :(:(

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[Anonymous Coward]

Don't worry, They have a Plan!

It may be the Terry Pratchett kind of plan but they still have a plan

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[chrismcb]

I'm really disappointed that Ron Moore wasted his time writing scripts for this turkey,

I am sure he didn't waste his time, as he probably got paid handsomely for his effort. Or do you only do work that might see the light of day?

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[Hentes]

The new BSG had little in common with the old one to be honest. Come to think of it, the old one was very much like a Star Wars series, especially the intro.

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[Anonymous Coward]

he was talking about luke banging one of his mother's former body doubles. /fapfapfap

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[Anonymous Coward]

"Back door eh? Good thinking."

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[Nostromo21]

Yet again I must refer ya all to Mr Plinkett's reviews of eps 1-3

redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/ :)

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[Nostromo21]

Shame because of all the great shows that became lost opportunities, Jericho definitely didn't deserve the 2nd chance card.

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[mcgrew]

sorry for the nerding-out here

Hey, this is slashdot. It's refreshing to see a real nerd among all the high school dropouts who have infested this place lately. Notice that whenever some dufus is corrected, the correction gets modded down but not the idiocy that's being corrected?

Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

it retroactively made all other Galactica episodes suck. It killed the DVD market for the series.

Hopefully, he won't do that to Star Wars. Lucas has done enough in that area.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Grishnakh]

There's nothing he can do to hurt Star Wars: the prequels have already ruined it forever. You think the BSG finale ruined the whole show? Lucas's prequels were 10x worse than that. Why anyone over the age of 12 would want to watch anything else related to Star Wars again (except the original 3 movies, after meditating to mentally block the prequels from their consciousness) I have no idea.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[crazyjj]

I know a lot of people disagree, but I loved the finale. It's grown on me more since it aired too. There is something about that conclusion that still really sticks in my mind and still pops up in my head sometimes when I read about advancements in A.I.--the idea that humanity is all but doomed to create the A.I. that will lead to its destruction, but that there is also somehow infinite hope that they won't make the same mistake THIS TIME.

I find it both a disturbing and comforting conclusion at the same time (don't think I can say that about the finale of any other series). It's hopeless in the sense that we're probably going to do it all again, but comforting to know that SOME DAY we're going to get it right (maybe even this time).

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

There's nothing he can do to hurt Star Wars: the prequels have already ruined it forever. You think the BSG finale ruined the whole show? Lucas's prequels were 10x worse than that. Why anyone over the age of 12 would want to watch anything else related to Star Wars again (except the original 3 movies, after meditating to mentally block the prequels from their consciousness) I have no idea.

Now now, not all the prequels are bad. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are pure shit. There is no way to redeem them. Phantom Menace on the other hand, while it has its problems can be made into a very enjoyable movie (through fanedits, mostly by eliminating Jar Jar). And of the 3 prequels it's the one that mostly caputures the original Star Wars essence.

BSG finale didn't ruin the whole show. The show was ruined the moment it vereed straight into mysticism. And that was way way earlier than the final episode. And give me a break about who the fucking final 5 cyclons were. Let's be happy we never got a BSG 1980 redux.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[History's Coming To]

What prequels? Sheesh, you'll be rambling on about some "The Matrix" sequel or something next.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[mcmonkey]

I know a lot of people disagree, but I loved the finale. It's grown on me more since it aired too. There is something about that conclusion that still really sticks in my mind and still pops up in my head sometimes when I read about advancements in A.I.--the idea that humanity is all but doomed to create the A.I. that will lead to its destruction, but that there is also somehow infinite hope that they won't make the same mistake THIS TIME.

Wasn't the ending of BSG--that we are descendants of an advanced alien culture whose last survivors crashed on Earth and started over without the advanced technology--basically a rip off of HHGTTG?

Anyway, I expect any new live action Star Wars show to be a Sith Lord secretly living with 2 Jedi. Yoda is the nosy landlord who's always one step behind their zany schemes.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[dkf]

There's nothing he can do to hurt Star Wars: the prequels have already ruined it forever.

The Holiday Special. You have not even begun to appreciate the power of the dark side.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Megane]

I heard there was a second Matrix movie, but they scrapped it with only the last 10-15 minutes still needing to be filmed. Oh well.

(Too bad The Matrix didn't get made 20 years earlier, or they might have made a Christmas special!)

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Andtalath]

There where already people living on earth, the 50k remaining ones bred into humanity.

Or something along those lines.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[mcgrew]

My daughter bought that for me as a Christmas present. Fortunately, my house was burgled and all my DVDs stolen before I had a chence to watch it.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

And there were already primitive humans living on Earth when the Golgafrinchams crash-landed.

Of course given the state of the Earth nowadays there was probably no interbreeding and the native population must have been out-competed by advertising executives and consultant coiffeuses.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[girlintraining]

I know a lot of people disagree, but I loved the finale.

THROW THIS MAN IN THE PIT OF DESPAIR!

Everything started out beautifully choreographed -- tight plot linkage, excellent character development, and then a horror unmatched since Whedon introduced season 5 of Buffy was unleashed. It's tenacles slithered out and devoured all that was good and wonderful about the series. Many drinks were had. Friends consoled each other in unlit basements, warmed only by the glow of an LCD monitor. It was dark times. People like you make me sick.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[LandDolphin]

The show ended with the discovery that all modern humans traced their linage back to 1 ancestor - The human/cylon hybrid child.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

why yes, the moment it veered into mysticism would have been "33" - the first episode of season 1.

Also, it's "Cylons" - one 'c'.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

It got the RiffTrax treatment.

Awesome.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/star-wars-holiday-special

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[jfengel]

You may be the luckiest man alive.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[girlintraining]

Wasn't the ending of BSG--that we are descendants of an advanced alien culture whose last survivors crashed on Earth and started over without the advanced technology--basically a rip off of HHGTTG?

Er, no. Earth was manufacturered so some mice could perform an experiment to find out the answer to everything. Unfortunately, due to the president of the universe lobotomizing himself because he wanted to find a legendary planet renowned for making other planets, an order was signed causing the Earth to be demolished minus two of its previous inhabitants, both British. The mice have to create a second Earth. After an aborted attempt to remove the brain of one of the survivors when they arrive at said legendary planet, they are deposited on the surface of said shiny new Earth. The only robots in THGTTG are either depressed, insane, or play 'Krikkit', and have no particular aspirations about conquering humanity.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[mcmonkey]

Wasn't the ending of BSG--that we are descendants of an advanced alien culture whose last survivors crashed on Earth and started over without the advanced technology--basically a rip off of HHGTTG?

Er, no.

You say no, but nothing you list contradicts what I've said. Yes, the Earth is a manufactured planet, a large computer build to calculate the answer to the ultimate question. But Aurther Dent (and other modern day humans) are not OEM parts. They're decedants of the Golgafrinchams on the B-ark.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[kencurry]

you had to bring up JarJar... , thanks for that.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Spiridios]

Yes, the Earth is a manufactured planet, a large computer build to calculate the answer to the ultimate question.

I thought Deep Thought was created to find the answer and that Earth was created to find the question....

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

What bothered me most of all is when the writer's started including the phrase "the final five" into the script. It had previously been only a marketing term for the series. It doesn't even make sense as far as the script goes.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[mcmonkey]

Yes, the Earth is a manufactured planet, a large computer build to calculate the answer to the ultimate question.

I thought Deep Thought was created to find the answer and that Earth was created to find the question....

D'oh. You are correct.

Re:Ron Moore's Galactica finale sucked so bad

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm curious what in the finale was such a horror to you. I only watched the series recently and didn't really mind the ending. Probably I benefited from less of a buildup of expectation since I watched the series in bulk, but I also got the sense as the series progressed that there wasn't exactly a coherent master plan, so that limited my expecations as well. But I still found the series very enjoyable for the drama and mystery and some of the ideas, and nothing in the finale seemed so horrible to me that it would invalidate my prior experiences of the series. Just curious since I haven't seen any other discussions of it, having come very late to the series.

Ron Moore does not equal automatic genius

[Anonymous Coward]

The fact that a script has been written by Ron Moore doesn't mean much here. The evidence lies in the entire third and fourth seasons of Battlestar Galactica, as well as innumerable episodes of Star Trek: TNG.

The latter provides an especially effective example because he was restricted by a world that was someone else's design, in much the same way he would be in a Star Wars series. Moore's work was nothing special.

Re:Ron Moore does not equal automatic genius

[Richy_T]

I think he tends to indulge in cargo-cult writing. He'll pull in a bunch of neat ideas from other sci-fi works which give the whole thing a great foreshadowing/arc feel but when it comes time to tie it all together and wrap it up, he just doesn't have the chops.

They should tie him and Jane Espenson together and throw them to the sarlac.

Disney + Ron Moore ?

[crazyjj]

I do not see this relationship ending amicably.

Re:Disney + Ron Moore ?

[Dimitrii]

I do not see this relationship ending amicably.

Would you prefer Disney + Ron Jeremy?

"there'll be hell to pay."

[Anonymous Coward]

Obligatory:

Yeah, a million nerds will cry out from their parents basements!

Re:"there'll be hell to pay."

[JavaBear]

Flamebait
You are thinking of Star Trek fans, this is Star Wars. /Flamebait

i hate star wars

[Anonymous Coward]

i grew up with Star Wars, i saw Return of the Jedi in the theater when it was first release and my childhood was filled with all the accompanying hype associated with a Star Wars release i.e. endless piles of Star Wars licensed crap. Now that I'm older and ware of the crass commercialism of the enterprise it's pretty gross really. I still like the original movies but I have basically zero interested in seeing or buying any Star Wars branded junk, sorry.

Before you get too excited

[Anonymous Coward]

30-40+ year old nerds, just remember this will not be aimed at you, just like all of the movies, it will be aimed at children.

Star wars is a kids franchise.

Re:Before you get too excited

[Anonymous Coward]

It's basically just Harry Potter in space, deal with it, nerds.

Re:Before you get too excited

[Enderandrew]

Except McCallum and Lucas described the live action TV series as Deadwood in space. They've suggested it will be so dark and mature that only HBO would air it.

The plot is supposed to center on bounty hunters between Episode III and IV.

Re:Before you get too excited

[Anonymous Coward]

That's fine, spacesuit cleavage is better than robe cleavage.

By far.

Re:Before you get too excited

[SirGarlon]

They've suggested it will be so dark and mature that only HBO would air it.

There's a difference between "dark" and "mature." The former absolutely does not apply the latter. Gratuitous sex, violence, and shock value (incest, infanticide, rape, cannibalism, etc.) do not generally make the plot better or characters more engaging.

Most "mature" games, movies, and TV series are aimed at folks who still haven't gotten over the thrill of finally being allowed into an R-rated movie.

Re:Before you get too excited

[Enderandrew]

This is still Lucas. I doubt he wanted to center a show on rape and cannibalism for no good reason. However, the show will likely be anti-heroes if it does center on bounty hunters. They'll constantly be surrounded by criminals and there will be a lot of death.

Re:Before you get too excited

[mcgrew]

I was 25 when EP IV came out, watched it at the theater with two friends the same age and we all loved it. EPV was even better. EPVI sucked donkey balls, those Ewoks were really REALLY bad. I've never seen worse costuming in any movie (although one or two Star Trek episodes had a few as bad). So I'll agree about EPVI, but not IV or V.

Re:Before you get too excited

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly! My brother is in the gruop you warn, he got to see the originals in theater and has been a life long fan, I watched them first in my teenage years, and altough entretaining I certainly didn't love them; besides the cool factor of light sabers there was little for me who at the time already dismissed 'soft' scifi in favor of technical accuracy and social comentary of more serious works.

Midichlorians and Jar Jar binks ruined for you? The Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs and ewoks did it for me.

Too Late...

[Anonymous Coward]

There already is a live-action Star Wars show (sorta NSFW).

What source Material?

[RivenAleem]

Are we going to get to see Thrawn?

Re:What source Material?

[Anonymous Coward]

Are we going to get to see Thrawn?

/quote

in a tv series ? Why would you want that ?
Now Thrawn on the silver screen ? YES by all means.

Do Episode 16 -- star wars prequel's prequel

[Anonymous Coward]

This time aimed at 0-5 year olds...

Can't get worse

[marquis111]

As fan who was there from the beginning -- I came in from summer break to hear my classmates talking about Dark Vader and the Jet Eyes, and after my brother came down with tonsillitis, I got to go see it in all of its original glory at the theater, sans the "Episode VI". I've been a fan of the story of Luke Skywalker, not the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker. I collected the figurines and watched the Christmas Special. Empire blew me away, and Return left me with an "eh" feeling. Han shot first, and the first image of the Emperor had monkey eyes superimposed on a woman's face. I've read and agree with "The Secret History of Star Wars."
My conclusion? Disney and whoever else can't possibly do any more damage to Star Wars than Lucas already has. The first two movies, VI and V of course, were masterpieces in spite of Lucas, not because of it.

Re:Can't get worse

[Anonymous Coward]

It's weird that so many people don't like Return of the Jedi but I love it. The taxonomy of weird creatures packed into Jaba's hideout and the Ewok forests were like the forests I would play in as a kid so it seemed super exciting to me. Also Jedi was released just when I was grammar school age so I was still the right demographic for it. I think people who first loved A New Hope were already too old for Star Wars by the time Jedi came out and didn't like it. It's so awesome if you were the right age for which leads me to believe that the more recent Star Wars films may not suck as bad as all the old nerds have proclaimed.

Re:Can't get worse

[elfprince13]

As 20-something nerd, II was the only one that really grated on me, and even so I think it would be redeemable by cutting around 1 or 2 of budding-romance scenes. I've heard the Phantom Edit is quite good, and III was enjoyable even without any chopping.

Re:Can't get worse

[Anonymous Coward]

The fact that you don't discern between the nice original 3 and the latter, clearly fake and aimed at a very much younger demographic 3 shows your lack of good taste. I do agree with your conclusion though, Lucas has already raped star wars.

Re:Can't get worse

[marquis111]

On the contrary. I didn't mention the other three on purpose. Good taste, bad taste, no matter: Return (unedited) outclasses the new three without even trying, and it was my least favorite of the first three.

Hopefully, it won't be Jedi the Series

[eksith]

Like Blade the Series. Execution is everything with shows and budget is only a small part of the equation

I'm not gonna rag on the prequels; it's been done to death already. They were made, done, deal with it.

Glee Wars?

[Hoi Polloi]

Please make it a musical, please make it a musical...

Re:Glee Wars?

[superdave80]

http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Luke,_Be_a_Jedi "Luke, be at Jedi, toniiiiiiiight!"

Just get the right one...

[hal2814]

I just hope they get the right Ronald P Moore. Despite what James Callis says, the Ronald P Moore in the Portland phone book is NOT the same one who did Battlestar Galactica.

I can see it now

[Nidi62]

"Two students enter their first year at the academy. One wants to be a storm trooper, the other a Rebel pilot; and now they're roommates! Watch hilarity ensue as they both try to survive freshman year and fight over the cute girl who's father wants her to be a Senator even though she dreams of being a bounty hunter! Special appearance by Billy D Williams as the gruff commandant with a heart of gold! Coming this fall to ABC!"

Re:I can see it now

[Orleron]

Still a better story than Twilight

Re:I can see it now

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck, are you kidding? Blank screen and static piped in is better than Twilight.

Re:I can see it now

[Anonymous Coward]

ba-ZING! I wish I had mod points.

Re:I can see it now

[Makawity]

"Two students enter their first year at the academy. One wants to be a storm trooper, the other a Rebel pilot;

And together, they fight crime!

Awesome

[Anonymous Coward]

A Star Wars live action show. Let's hope it's as good as the SW Holiday Special.

Star Wars Holiday Special

[Anonymous Coward]

I have nothing to add except nobody has even mentioned the Star Wars Holiday Special. Please place all jokes referring to the Star Wars Holiday Special in this thread.

How about something NEW?

[dugancent]

Instad of rehashing the same old stuff. Same goes for Star Trek.

Give it up and be creative for once!

Further proof that God does not exist.

[Anonymous Coward]

Checkmate, theists.

I got Scripts for a Star Trek show i am writting..

[Wingfat]

anyone want to help make them ;-) lol I always thought that there should be a Star Trek Academy Show. So I wrote my own after playing Bridge Commander way back in the day.

"Live" "action"?

[White Flame]

Are you sure you don't you mean "Two robed guys walking in front of a green screen, discussing politics for 80% of the time" again?

Can we do something else now?

[Animats]

This franchise needs to die. It's been 35 years now. Enough already.

There's plenty of modern hard SF out there that could be made into movies. Most of David Weber or John Ringo's works would translate well into action movies or TV. A Snow Crash movie or series would work. ("Dark Angel" came close, but they lost the plot in Season 2.)

Trend: At Barnes and Noble, there are now fewer bookcases of "Teen Paranormal Romance", and more of "Teen Survival". Most of the latter consists of Hunger Games clones. Vampires and werewolves seem to be on the way out.

If you like bad franchises that just won't stop, Police Academy 8 is currently in development.

Re:Can we do something else now?

[oodaloop]

If you like bad franchises that just won't stop, Police Academy 8 [imdb.com] is currently in development.

What about A Good Day to Die Hard? I understand that John McClane discovers at the end that he's been dead the whole time.

Re:Can we do something else now?

[Anonymous Coward]

I really doubt Disney bought LucasFilm for 4G$ only to let it die and not produce anything. Sorry for you

Re:Can we do something else now?

[Animats]

I really doubt Disney bought LucasFilm for 4G$ only to let it die and not produce anything. Sorry for you

Disney has a whole division, DisneyToons, for producing crap sequels. Mulan II, Cinderella II, Jungle Book II, Pocahontas II, 101 Dalmations II, The Lion King 1 1/2, Bambi II... Looks like they're extending that to live action.

"Live-Action Show"

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, you mean like a TV show. Had me worried for a moment. When you said "Live-Action Show" for some reason my mind pictured something like "StarWars on Ice".

Don't want to see more (in the near future)

[GodfatherofSoul]

Both trilogies had great endings. RotS really tied things up well. A live action show will only reduce the series as TV can't compete with cinema. This isn't like Star Trek upscaling to the movies. Downscaling a franchise based on otherworldly special effects can only lead to disappointment.

Something different

[Anonymous Coward]

I would not mind them trying something far away from the original story arc. It is a big galaxy with many characters...hell the EU is chock full of characters that could be explored further without ever (or rarely) running across a jedi. If it fails, it fails but try something experimental. Don't even include the Skywalker name and the franchise won't go down with a sinking ship. Try Rogue Squad or one of those jedi exploration ships that stay out in the vast regions for years at a time.

Re:Something different

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly. There could be countless way of expanding into new plots, instead of re-hashing the old plots.

Something like "Young Jedi Knights" could be made into a Kid's show, there are enough planets to choose from to do anything from romance to action, horror, exploration themed stuff.

I guess I would probably enjoy something NEW. The worst thing about the prequels probably was that the took some of the big "Mysteries" like what the Force really is or what the Clone Wars really were, where everyone up until that had "imagined up" something that fit exactly how he liked them to be. Everybody probably imagined them differently, so it was unavoidable that 90% and more were disappointed when they were explained differently.

So I just wish they do some sequel into a new direction that really "expands the universe", not some pre-quel or middle-quel that is bound to just be a big mess of inconsistencies. Even if they keep the inconsistencies with the 6 existing movies to a minimum, they will still be inconsistencies with how people imagined it until now.

boba

[goddestroyer]

http://i.imgur.com/TALVv.gif

Star Wars TV Show..

[Anonymous Coward]

What we know about Star Wars will likely be altered with television series. Also depends on WHEN their going to do it. When its set to be percise. There was talk while ago by Lucus when the CGI series was in development that companion live-action show was suppose to be set during years between Clone Wars and A New Hope. This could be angle it could be going with. Weither not a mainstream television network can handle this and not try to micro-manage the production of the series to point where original Television Special was consider to be quality product remains to be seen.

Lucas is still advisor to the franchise despite him being offically retired from doing it actively. Then again the CGI Clone Wars Series has already changed canon.

longer than that

[Anonymous Coward]

Star Wars has been crap for longer than that; you forgot the 2 Ewok movies and the Droids cartoon.

Actually they can ruin things

[Anonymous Coward]

They can make it worse.

They can have the characters leave the galaxy, found 13 colonies and a race of or droids that eventually rebel and try to wipe them out.

Fred and Carrie disagree...

[decora]

... in fact, they disagreed so much, they had Ron write another episode!!!

Good thing he was local to Portlandia

Wish it was Alan Moore

[Dabido]

Wish they had Alan Moore writing it ... but, then it wouldn't be Star Wars, it'd be something unique like Watchmen or V for Vendetta! :-)