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RIM Attracts 15,000 Apps For BlackBerry 10 In 2 Days

CWmike writes "It's starting to look like the BlackBerry store will be well stocked with apps when Research In Motion launches BlackBerry 10 (see YouTube preview) at the end of this month. The company held an event over the weekend where it offered app developers incentives to port their programs to the BlackBerry 10 platform and managed to attract 15,000 app submissions. 'Well there you have it. 37.5 hours in, we hit 15,000 apps for this portathon. Feel like I've run a marathon. Thanks to all the devs!' wrote Alec Saunders, vice president of developer relations at RIM, in a Twitter message. The 'port-a-thon' event was held in two parts: One aimed at Android developers and the other at apps written in other platforms, including Appcelerator, Maramalade, Sencha, jQuery, PhoneGap and Qt. RIM was offering $100 for each app ported and subsequently approved for sale in the BlackBerry 10 app store, up to certain limits. Developers could also win BlackBerry 10 development handsets and a trip to RIM's BlackBerry Jam Europe developer event." It's hard to believe that many current iOS or Android users are leaping toward Blackberry, though. If you're in one of those camps, is that so crazy?

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  1. The question is... by GerbilSoft · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many of those 15,000 "apps" are actually useful, and how many are just worthless single-site frontends?

    1. Re:The question is... by 6Yankee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      5,000 single-site frontends and 10,000 fart apps.

    2. Re:The question is... by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How many of those 15,000 "apps" are actually useful, and how many are just worthless single-site frontends?

      And how is this question relevant here vs. every other app store boasting the same 1:1,000 ratio of good to worthless apps?

      Seems a bit premature to bash RIM for doing nothing more than what everyone else does...and that is publish huge nicely rounded marketing numbers for apps, regardless of value-add.

    3. Re:The question is... by jc42 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But, RIM's dead! The interblogs told me so!

      Pay no attention to those Apple fanbois, or the fandroids neither. It's only the loyal BB partisans who have The Truth.

      (Hmmm ... We could use an official site to inform us of the current buzzwords for properly insulting the users of various successful commercial products. Anyone know what the BB loyalists are actually disparaged these days?)

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    4. Re:The question is... by GerbilSoft · · Score: 3, Insightful

      iOS has the same problem, as does Windows Phone and Windows 8. (It's actually much worse on Windows 8; pretty much every app there is a worthless website frontend.)

    5. Re:The question is... by jeffmeden · · Score: 4, Funny

      But, RIM's dead! The interblogs told me so!

      Pay no attention to those Apple fanbois, or the fandroids neither. It's only the loyal BB partisans who have The Truth.

      (Hmmm ... We could use an official site to inform us of the current buzzwords for properly insulting the users of various successful commercial products. Anyone know what the BB loyalists are actually disparaged these days?)

      "BB loyalist" is about as disparaging as you need to be...

    6. Re:The question is... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quite relevant because what matters is the true count of useful applications - not the filler. By your reckoning (1:1000) that means RIM has 15 useful applications for BB10. Nothing to brag about. I've got 4 times that many very useful iOS apps on the devices I own and I've just scratched the surface. Android using friends of mine have dozens of useful apps on theirs.

      More specifically it means that they have 15 useful applications *from this portathon*. I suspect the number to be higher - as it's fairly easy to port opengl games and html5 apps, outside of android apps.

      They've already said they'll have over 70k apps at launch - it's not like this one-weekend event is their only effort to get applications on the platform. Unofficial estimates put them over 100k. That'll mean ~100 useful apps (if we stick with 1:1000) -- whhich is, frankly, on par with other platforms.

      They've also previously said that they have 90% of the most popular 600 android and ios apps, and 18 of the top 20 apps .

    7. Re:The question is... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd be more interested in finding out how many of those are even legit.
      http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57562905-94/blackberry-app-world-said-to-hawk-pirated-android-apps/

      That's not a platform issue, it's an asshattery issue. You can also find tens of thousands of apps that are repackaged iOS/Android apps on iOS/Android - with few or no changes.

      Like any other platform, they can't reasonably go to check each app submission against every known platform and verify the credentials of the developer match up - it's not realistic which is why none of the others do it.

      RIM has made it very easy for any legitimate app developer to file a claim and have an app taken down - and responds to such complaints much more quickly than its rivals based on actual results.

    8. Re:The question is... by mr_walrus · · Score: 2

      have you missed the part where most android apps will work on BB10 and Playbook?
      simply only need to repackage/sign an existing android installer package into a BB package.
      anyone can do it. i've done it.

    9. Re:The question is... by dogsbreath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "BB loyalist" is about as disparaging as you need to be...

      this is a blanket?
      jah
      and we are pigs?
      jah
      then this is funny, jah?
      jah! that is a good one!

      Cheap jokes aside, IMHO this is lots of room for BB to move back into being a player.

      First, they still have a very large user base and second, the other players all have significant weak areas that BB could target.

      BB has always been about business communications and productivity, areas that Apple has never been any good at. Email on iPhones is a joke at best. Even if you jailbreak and install "mail enhancer pro" (jah, that is a good one too!), the mail tool is missing core functionality.

      Multitasking on iPhones is pathetic and a total pain to move data between apps. BB 10, if it is still based on QNX, should have the built in capability to change how parallel applications and parallel processing paths function on mobile devices. Raise the bar as they say.

      The iPad is interesting and a decent lightweight tool for browsing web but again absolutely not a power tool. More like a kids workbench.

      The two vendors who have traditionally been powers in the business space, Microsoft and BB, seem to recognize this and are making plays in an area that Apple just does not understand or fails to address well.

      I don't quite know what to make of Android in this area as it should be able to fill the void as well but does not seem to have a leader in the business arena.

      BYOD is popular amongst the working population but corporately there is a desire to retain control over corp. communications and security, at least in the Fortune 500. Time is ripe for BB to get back into business.

      Anyways, competition is good and from that point of view I am hoping BB succeeds.

      Best not to be too religious about platforms, companies, hardware etc. They are just tools and who wants to be mired in a world dominated by iOS and Android when other excellent systems exist?

    10. Re:The question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Doesn't the Apple store count a book as an "app"?

      No Apple do not count books as "apps". A simple search can turn up this info.

    11. Re:The question is... by xSacha · · Score: 2

      It took from 2 days to 2 weeks for most of the apps to past QA.
      I have apps from the port-a-thon that still haven't gone through QA yet though.

      Their QA is very strict. Also, for the portathon you can't have apps that are too similar, apps that perform a single or simple function or apps that don't meet their quality checks. They don't even accept emulators.

  2. so why would i buy a blackberry? by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    instead of an iphone or one of the Galaxy phones?

    do they do anything that iOS or Android does not?

    1. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Funny

      it has... Canadian Technology!

    2. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      it has... Canadian Technology!

      So....it asks you nicely before it crashes? Or just apologizes afterwards?

    3. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, I agree ... historically, that's been the primary reason for BlackBerry stuff. If you can access Exchange from other devices readily, what does RIM bring to the table?

      At which point, they're just another manufacturer with nothing to differentiate themselves or make their platform a better choice.

      If they don't have something nobody else does, I don't know what is going to bring customers they've already lost back.

      I'd love to see a list of reasons why someone should go with a BlackBerry, because I'm at a loss to come up with a single one myself. That's not to say they don't exist, but they need to be sure to explain to people why it's worth looking at their products.

      There was a time I'd have said "a phone running QNX, wow, that must be awesome". Now I just wonder how badly they've mangled QNX.

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    4. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No it cross checks you into the boards while serenading you with Alanis Morissette songs, before pouring maple syrup on your concussed head, ya hoser.

    5. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by asmkm22 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Email, mostly. It's much easier to type out an email message (or text, for that matter) on a physical keyboard than on a touchscreen. For me, that's a really big deal.

      There's also an argument to be made about the Blackberry feeling more "industrial" or "professional" than iPhones or Androids. I don't particularly care about being able to play games or watch Netflix on my phone because I use my phone for business and for placing calls. I imagine I'm in the minority on that one though, because it seems like many people today view their phone as some all-in-one gaming machine that happens to make phone calls as well.

      Personally, I can't wait to be able to ditch my Android and get back to a half-screen-half-keyboard Blackberry, provided the phone is responsive and the battery life is decent.

    6. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by c · · Score: 3, Funny

      it has... Canadian Technology!

      There's an excellent "Cold Or Not" app...

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    7. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 3, Funny

      If he doesn't donate it soon, Harrison Ford will just do it for him.

    8. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2

      Hey, take off, eh?

    9. Re:so why would i buy a blackberry? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 3, Informative

      instead of an iphone or one of the Galaxy phones?

      do they do anything that iOS or Android does not?

      Well, you cannot get your meeting schedules synced to your BMW without a Blackberry.

      But with 10, I think RIM is losing one important selling point - the physical keyboard. -snip-.

      No, RIM is releasing models with both all-touch and physical keyboards.

  3. Re:Thankfully... by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 3, Informative

    The idea is that BB10 supports those frameworks already. Some ports are as simple as setting up the tools and clicking a button. Hopefully the more complex ones are given the time they need.

  4. RIM basically bought the apps by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2

    FTFA:
    "RIM was offering US$100 for each app ported and subsequently approved for sale in the BlackBerry 10 app store"

    This isn't any indication that people are leaving their favorite fondle-slab for RIM's.

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  5. Re:Thankfully... by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 2

    Be careful soon the RIM fanbois will be out saying bad things about you for admitting this. It can't possibly be that there is something wrong with BES, no it has to be every person to ever admin it was incompetent and untrained.

    RIM fanbois?...thinks for awhile....you mean employees?

  6. Poor reviewers... by rzr · · Score: 2

    I am wondering how long will it takes to review all of those apps .... is there a alt community store for FLOSS ? because, mine is a meego's basic (but helpful) text editor and it is pending since sunday ... and I am ready to share sources ... -- http://rzr.online.fr/q/qnx

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  7. Re:App bounty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which is dirt cheap considering hourly rates for even starting developers. I would expect that Microsoft, for example, has poured tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars for boosting the WP app store.

  8. Re:Thankfully... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's my thinking. If all you have to do is a quick rejig and recompile because the APIs are so close to the Android ones, then it's a near-zero effort situation. I don't know much about the new platform, but I thought I had read that it would support Android apps out of the box, so it may literally may be just pushing a button.

    Not that there's a damned wrong with that. If Android compatibility or portability is good enough, then you already have thousands of apps ready to go and you don't need to put massive amounts of effort into convincing developers to support your platform (like Redmond is doing).

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  9. Re:Thankfully... by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

    Here I will call them out for you:

    BES sucks, getting rid of it was a huge win for the entire sysadmin team. We no longer had to repush servicebooks or restart the BES just so one user could start to get emails again. Doing that last one was painful because then the other BES users, who did not read the email about the pending restart, would call in to inform us that they were not getting mail during the restart. We no longer have to send back devices that for no known reason will never allow themselves to be setup for BES or any of those other headaches.

    That should get them going pretty good.

  10. Re:App bounty by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Which, if you think about it, probably is a wise investment.

    If on day one there's 15 apps, nobody is going to buy one because it's dead on arrival and the money you spent developing it would be a waste. If there's 15,000 apps, it's possible to conclude it's not a completely useless platform.

    Releasing it without apps would be suicide, because there's nothing interesting about a smart phone you can't get software for. By now, anybody who has had a smart phone has a list of a handful of apps which are deal breakers.

    Now, the question remains as to if enough people will care enough to buy these. I'm not sure anything RIM does at this point is going to make me say "oooh, I need a BlackBerry" ... but they do need to get a significant amount of people to do that.

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  11. Do they still require a business plan? by shirikodama · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After going through hoop after hoop to try to release an app to their store including notarized this, and documented that... for a FREE FRIGGING APP, I gave up when they told me that I needed to submit a business plan to them. I couldn't believe it.

  12. Yah, sure by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because 100 dollars is a fortune! I mean, it would get you a whole hour of my time! I will EAT TONIGHT!

    The smart developer doesn't restrict himself to one platform, especially in a market that already has seen major shifts.

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  13. Maramalade? by djlemma · · Score: 3, Informative

    Guess a typo in TFA got carried over into TFS. I was trying to search out all these SDK's and google got confused..

    So for those interested, it's spelled exactly like the stuff you put on toast. Info here..

  14. Blackberry popular in Africa by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 2

    RIM is popular in Africa:
    http://www.economist.com/news/business/21567977-its-devices-are-still-popular-there-africa-wont-save-rim-blackberry-babes

    And for your amusement, check out this genius sketch from Ronnie Corbett, "My Blackberry is not Worlking" [Credit: BBC - thanks Beeb!]:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

  15. Re:Thankfully... by trampel · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's my thinking. If all you have to do is a quick rejig and recompile because the APIs are so close to the Android ones, then it's a near-zero effort situation. I don't know much about the new platform, but I thought I had read that it would support Android apps out of the box, so it may literally may be just pushing a button.

    Not that there's a damned wrong with that. If Android compatibility or portability is good enough, then you already have thousands of apps ready to go and you don't need to put massive amounts of effort into convincing developers to support your platform (like Redmond is doing).

    BB10 contains the Android Player, which essentially runs repackaged Android APK files (I'm don't know if the reason for the different package format is technical or not). This is different from the native APIs, but the user experience is quite seamless. I "ported" one of my apps to the Playbook, and it was not even a recompile - it is a package converter.

  16. BB10 more sellable than Win8/WinRT by TemporalBeing · · Score: 2

    In all honest, Blackberry even as it stands now has better integration, infrastructure, and toe-holds in the enterprise market for mobile than Microsoft will ever get with respect to mobile. So, yeah - they'll do well and they'll steal market share that Microsoft might otherwise have gotten - and really needs. Look for BB to outsell MS in the mobile space once again with BB10.

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  17. Yes, it's worth it by accessbob · · Score: 2

    RIM may not have the largest customer base, but BlackBerry users do actually *buy* apps (unlike Android...)

    And the apps are a joy to develop, at least if you have a real BB10 to test with (I do: I have a Dev Alpha). I get a choice between Eclipse and QT Creator for my C/C++, and a huge range of libraries. The platform is QL, and now Nokia have sold that to Digia, QT is coming to Android and Win8 phone in Q3, so I can port even C++ apps between platforms easily.

    What's not to like?

  18. I own an iPhone; this is relevant to my interests by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

    I've never owned a Blackberry. But I like interesting OSes, and I like marketplace diversity. It's this sort of stuff that makes it interesting to own a device.

    I have an iPhone 4. The only Android device that's tempted me at all so far is one of the recently announced Sonys (waterproof, ANT+, Sony's typically good camera) and that's about it. The current state of the market offers me very little that's meaningful in my day-to-day life, and so phones are kind of boring. Samsung vs. Apple. Android vs. iOS vs. WP8! It's Meh vs. Meh if you ask me.

    I stick with iOS because it's a Mac household, I have other iOS devices, and my friends and family have iPhones. iMessage and Facetime are staples for me. It'll take an awful lot to pry me away from that.

    But that said, if the new Blackberry is interesting enough, I'll give it a serious look. The small players have to work harder to make things interesting, and RIM is now a legitimate 'small' player in this market. It's a bit do-or-die, so I expect some interesting stuff.