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Atari Files For Bankruptcy

First time accepted submitter halls-of-valhalla writes "Atari was one of the very first video game companies, starting way back in 1972. However, this long-running name that brought us titles like Pong and Asteroids is having major financial issues. Atari's United States branches have filed for bankruptcy on Sunday. This bankruptcy is an attempt to separate themselves from their French parent which has quite a bit of debt. The plan is to split from the French parent and find a buyer to form a private company."

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  1. game over... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    GAME OVER PLAYER 1

    1. Re:game over... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      INSERT COIN TO CONTINUE!

  2. This is not Atari by Nimey · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is formerly Infogrames, who bought rights to the Atari name after the original went bankrupt.

    A little basic fact-checking would have fixed this entry, "editors".

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  3. It sort-of is Atari by crow · · Score: 5, Informative

    Infogrames bought not just the name, but the company. Yes, it's been through a number of acquisitions and mergers. So yes, the current Atari does, in fact, own the copyrights on the 70s and 80s games that everyone associates with it, and it is still the same company. It's not just a brand that someone is licensing around (like RCA).

    But you're right, it hasn't really been Atari in the emotional sense since at least 1998 when Hasbro bought them.

    1. Re:It sort-of is Atari by ultrasawblade · · Score: 4, Informative

      Atari died when the Jaguar flopped and JTS quiety bought them in a "reverse merger."

      I would venture to say though that after the crash of '83, and the NES started becoming cool two years later, was really when it started to fall.

    2. Re:It sort-of is Atari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The company died from poor management and MBA style decisions. Like many other companies

      Atari ST was a good product and then when they followed up with the lousy STE, which had nothing compared to the Amiga's blitter, Atari was on the way do die. Management was MBA greedy and didn't realize the market would choose the better technology, or just plain didn't care as long as their wallets were full.

    3. Re:It sort-of is Atari by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tramiel's sons were idiots.

      That's not fair and too easy to say without some facts.
      In the ST's heyday, they were visiting user groups to (as best they could)
      to see what the users wanted to see in current/future products. Marketing, yes.
      But there was a genuine concern, too.

      Apple was in the same boat back then; probably worse. Guess what "saved" Apple?
      Not S. Jobs, but PageMaker. If PageMaker had been developed for the ST, things
      would be very different today.

      Atari choose a very vertical market - hobby consumer oriented. Sadly, this was too risky
      and Jack scared off all of the metal talent (they sure could've been NES and then some).
      Apple went more horizontal and built appeal both for consumers and business and their
      only genius was giving a mac to colleges.

      CAPTCHA = refuel (alas, I fear it's too late even for that)

    4. Re:It sort-of is Atari by PRMan · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Apples were expandable. IBM PCs were expandable. Ataris and Amigas were not. See a pattern?

      Apple got their stuff into schools. IBM got their stuff into small businesses. Atari and Amiga got them into Toys'r'us. It's really that simple.

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    5. Re:It sort-of is Atari by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Atari you see around these days is related to the games bit.

      That's incorrect; Hasbro (and through them, Infogrames) got the "Atari" name and IP through the legal remnants of Atari Corp. who *did* deal in games.

      Atari Inc. was split along *arcade* (Atari Games) and *home/consumer* (Atari Corp.) lines. The latter (Jack Tramiel's) certainly included a lot of games-related business over the years, even if Tramiel initially thought it was a dead end. They continued the VCS/2600, relaunched the 7800 (after canning it for 18 months or so), released the XE Games System (an updated Atari 800 without a keyboard), then the Lynx (a fantastic handheld console developed by Epyx that was years ahead of its time, and partly killed by their crappy marketing) and finally the ill-fated Jaguar.

      Also, the deal was that Atari Games could only use the "Atari" name in the arcade; they used the "Tengen" brand for home releases. Atari Games became part of Midway and was later renamed Midway Games West around the time Hasbro got the home name (to avoid confusion, apparently). I don't know what the status is of Atari Games' rights to the name and IP, but I suspect their legal successor's use of the name will still be restricted to arcade use. (Given that even in Japan- apparently- actual arcade-based games are no longer popular, that's nowhere near as big a deal as it would have been in the mid-80s).

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    6. Re:It sort-of is Atari by nogginthenog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Huh? Amigas were easily expandable, at least as much as 680x0 Apples. Big box Amigas (A2000, A3000 & A4000) had a Zorro bus which took graphics cards, serial cards, video editing (Video Toaster), etc. Small box Amigas (A500, A600, A1200) has similar expansion capabilities. A500&A1000 had a zorro 1 connector on the side, A1200 & A600 had the clockport. There were also the standard external parallel & serial ports available. There are even new expansion cards being manufactured & designed today (albeit in small quantities)

      My A500 had a huge 80Mb SCSI hard drive.

      My A4000 had a 24bit graphics card, serial card, 68060 processor with fast SCSI and lots of RAM (60Mb :-)

  4. Re:Please, this Atari isn't the original one. by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's also why people go to Chuck E. Cheese's.

    Gonna have to explain that one further. Locally when the weather is bad, its by far the cheapest place to take the whole family for "fun" which also has a liquor license, so the local cops are continually breaking up fights between dirtbags, which is not exactly great PR so its driving everyone except the dirtbags away. "Oh you went to CeC last night, were the cops there?" Basically if mom and/or dad are prime dive bar customers, but they have the kids that weekend, they can go to CeC and get drunk while the kids play. On the other hand its actually a pretty nice place to visit early enough in the day before the parents get drunk. If they would just close around sundown or so it would result in much higher class/lower crime clientele. Also the local news rag is offended that they aren't paying for enough advertising, so they highlight every minor problem to "motivate" them to purchase more advertising...

    I'm guessing the analogy is something like Atari is more fun when you're drunk/baked or ?

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  5. Re:Copyright by Miamicanes · · Score: 5, Informative

    Intellectual property for American 1980s videogames is a clusterfuck mess. Companies entered into short-term and limited-scope licensing for music, trademarks, images, and the rights to port games from other platforms. And just about every non-Japanese company in business circa 1983 was bankrupt by the mid-90s.

    Some platforms, like Colecovision, are such a mess (legally), it would be basically impossible to EVER commercially re-release most of its old games in their original binary form. Coleco in particular signed licensing agreements that literally specified rom cartridges (one of the Adam's fatal flaws, since it meant they couldn't make tape-based versions with more conrent), expired in 10 years, etc. You'd have to spend millions researching ownership, then spin the roulette wheel and try negotiating new licensing agreements with owners who -- almost without exception -- would act like they hit the jackpot and demand outrageous amounts of money that would kill the product dead, anyway.

    I believe this was a major motive behind the development of MAME -- the realization that some games were doomed to legally rot in limbo for eternity due to licensing problems.

  6. Atari has Reached a State of Atari by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Atari was named for a term in the game "go" in which a stone or group of stones are in danger of being taken by one's opponent and the player has only one option available to avoid this outcome . Kind of like bankruptcy. So it seems that Atari has finally reached a state of Atari.

    1. Re:Atari has Reached a State of Atari by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The writing was on the wall when they started hitting their biggest fans with cease and decist orders. An Atari that valued its history for more what they could sell the rights might not be in this situation today.

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  7. Re:Kickstart by carnivore302 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    why should "we" do that? Can't "you" do it yourself?

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  8. Didn't buy "Atari", they bought Hasbro Interactive by Dogtanian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Infogrames bought not just the name, but the company [..] it is still the same company.

    Not really, the "company" Infogrames bought and "continued" was merely Hasbro Interactive- and they themselves were merely an unrelated company that had purchased the Atari name and IP.

    Quick rehash... the original "true" Atari Inc. ran into trouble following the 1983 US video game crash. It was split into arcade and consumer divisions; the former was "Atari Games" (later sold to Midway, who renamed it and eventually shut it down in 2003).

    The latter was bought by Jack Tramiel and became "Atari Corp.", a legally separate company that nonetheless could still be seen as a spiritual continuation of Atari Inc's computer and console division.

    Fast forward to the mid-90s, and all Atari Corp's recent products have flopped. The company is cash rich, but with no future, so Tramiel "merges" Atari Corp. with JTS, a second-rate hard drive maker. Since this is- in effect- just a means for him to transfer his investment to JTS, Atari Corp. basically ceases any meaningful operations at this point, remaining only a legal entity within JTS.

    A couple of years later, JTS goes bankrupt, and Hasbro buys the Atari IP. No real connection with the original business(es) in any real sense, as there's nothing meaningful to continue by this point.

    So, Hasbro weren't really "Atari" except that they bought the name and IP, and Infogrames aren't really either. Both successors that had any meaningful continuation of Atari Inc. (i.e. Atari Corp. and Atari Games) are both now long defunct with nothing left to continue.

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  9. Baillout for Atari by grodzix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where is the bailout money for Atari? Car companies got it. Banks got it. Why not show some love? People gonna lose their jobs n' stuff...

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