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US Government Announces National Day of Civic Hacking

An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday in a post at the White House website, the U.S. government announced that June 1-2 would be the National Day of Civic Hacking. 'Civic Hacking Day is an opportunity for software developers, technologists, and entrepreneurs to unleash their can-do American spirit by collaboratively harnessing publicly-released data and code to create innovative solutions for problems that affect Americans.' It will be a joint project with Random Hacks of Kindness, Code for America. Activities are being planned in many cities across the country, and you can also sign up to host your own event. It's nice to see the government use the word 'hacking' in a positive way, since most uses of the term these days involve malicious activity."

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  1. Not the car?? by KFK2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    And here I thought it was about hacking Honda Civics.. enough people do that you'd think there'd be a holiday for it already.

    1. Re:Not the car?? by Daley_G · · Score: 1

      And here I thought it was about hacking Honda Civics.. enough people do that you'd think there'd be a holiday for it already.

      As true (and funny) as that is, it's unfortunate that not many of those hacks have any sort of positive impact.

    2. Re:Not the car?? by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      I once used a soda can to repair the exhaust system... does that count?

    3. Re:Not the car?? by jnork · · Score: 1

      If it involved a hacking cough caused by the exhaust fumes, then yes, I'd say so.

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  2. The feds promoting 'hacking'? by paiute · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Color me surprised. Or maybe code me surprised. I thought the term 'hacker' was forever lost, stained by the media beyond redemption.

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    1. Re:The feds promoting 'hacking'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know it's all perspective, and this is just mine, but I see more appropriate uses all the time now. Business rags like to talk about large tech companies having their hackathons and unknown devs "hacking" on their personal projects. The whole "maker" thing, which is (dare I say) trendy now, uses the word all the time. And we're well out of the 90's, when computers were transitioning from mystery AOL terminals to tools that almost everyone grew up using. I do feel like we're swinging back from the hollywood version of the word, and this is a good example.

      Though I suppose you could argue that both uses weren't that distant from each other in the first place. Just a thought.

    2. Re:The feds promoting 'hacking'? by HalWasRight · · Score: 1

      I'm right there with you. So glad to hear 'hacker' and 'hacking' used in the original positive context.

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    3. Re:The feds promoting 'hacking'? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      More like "stained by idiots who call themselves hackers jacking up other people's systems." The media didn't do it. It's every who gets busted doing stupid s**t with a script they downloaded because they think they're going to get into Jolie's pants.

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  3. Liberate Data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Liberate data that can inform better problem solving in every community."
    I propose we make a script that downloads all the research journals that we can, then makes massive online library of them that anyone can access. Oh wait. That doesn't end well.

    1. Re:Liberate Data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That ends fine as long as you don't get access to the network that holds that data by breaking into a restricted access wiring closet, connecting your laptop and leaving it there, and then circumventing the attempts made to stop you. Then when you're caught and facing trial, don't kill yourself before you actually get through trial.

  4. Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by scorp1us · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Be careful out there. This isn't a true call to hacking, it is a call for free labor.

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  5. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't a true call to hacking, it is a call for free labor.

    I don't mind donating my labor for free sometimes if it makes the world a better place.

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  6. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

    ...And the US government has made the world a better place recently?

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  7. Random hacks of kindess... by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

    I truly believe in the 'pay it forward', random acts of kindness ideology. When I see someone obviously having difficulty somehow, I many times do stop and ask them if I can help. It usually doesn't cost me up anything but a little of my time, and it helps me feel better about myself afterwards. How coders can apply this to 'hacking' though, how can they do that?

    1. Re:Random hacks of kindess... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      Except when its a trap and you get robbed and killed

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    2. Re:Random hacks of kindess... by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

      Except when its a trap and you get robbed and killed

      Well, there was that time when I was a teenager in Manhattan. I walked up on a guy who was hitting and kicking a woman who was on the ground. I yelled at him to ''cut it out'', and before anything else happened, the woman gets up all angry and comes towards me. She was yelling something like, "Who the hell are you to talk to him like that, I should kick your ass..."

      I threw up my hands and say, "Fine! Kill each other, see if I care!" and walk away. Ever since then I'm real careful about getting between two people fighting each other, they may actually be enjoying it.

    3. Re:Random hacks of kindess... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there are a few times you will get smacked down for helping people in life. Though the good events far outweigh the bad ones.

    4. Re:Random hacks of kindess... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 1

      Until you are shot in the heart

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    5. Re:Random hacks of kindess... by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

      Wow, what's it like to live in constant fear? That paranoid distrusting nature that I find in so many of the older political types. It's probably born of cynasim or something, but people like you are just socially pesimistic. Like they've given up on people in general. I'd be more understanding if you had been truely hungry at some point, but everyone I've met with this attitude has been financially well off. I imagine the cut-throat mentality helps balance the budget. On the flip-side, everyone I've known who has been through hard times has had a healthy respect for the caring nature of their fellows. Usually because they had to lean on someone else in some fashion. Maybe all the ones who tried to stand on their own simply died, but in any case, I haven't met them.

      But no, seriously, what's it like to constantly distrust everyone else?

  8. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes. I like roads.

  9. Re:WTF? by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

    are you sure it's not the Mirror universe instead?

  10. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by scorp1us · · Score: 3, Informative

    Roads are predominantly state projects. And though you might claim the feds help fund them, it's only because the feds confiscate via the income tax then give it back for compliance with federal initiatives.

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  11. Memories by Mikkeles · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why am I reminded of this Dilbert?

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    1. Re:Memories by idontgno · · Score: 1

      I'm sure it was just Admiral Akbar whispering in your ear.

      Self-professed hackers hacking for America will be put onto a watch list and hauled in for questioning any time anything untoward happens in the United Internet of America. Especially in the parts claimed by the corporate citizens of that great state.

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  12. Now that is a coincidence by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    June 1. is my birthday.... Dunnowhattothinkofthat.

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  13. Excellent by Sparticus789 · · Score: 1

    Then I will have to make sure that my hatchet has been sharpened, before this day of hacking.

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  14. Start with the JSTOR archive by dmomo · · Score: 1

    Since much of this academic work is subsidized with public funding, let's put some servers somewhere at MIT so we can download and mirror it.

  15. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

    Ideally, its none of us!

    What happens in a democracy, not just the US, but in ANY democracy (or republic) is that the masses will inevitably push for higher taxes and more welfare and raid the treasury for their own personal gain. Since democracy at its essence is a popularity contest, the politicians will push for higher and higher taxes and more welfare. When productivity is punished, productive people will go elsewhere (see France) when productive people go elsewhere, the country goes into a decline (such as the Roman Empire/USSR) and eventually collapses.

    I am responsible only for the actions and decisions I make. Not my neighbor's, not the government's, but mine and mine alone.

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  16. I was hoping it meant "penetration testing" by chronokitsune3233 · · Score: 1

    I suppose I expect too much from my government in openly allowing hacking on one day without repercussions so long as it harms nobody. After all, it only has access to my national identity and tax records.

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  17. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's a ridiculous oversimplification of what happened to both the Roman Empire and the USSR.

  18. Re:Obligatory Question... by jkauzlar · · Score: 1

    Probably less than 0.1% of the cost of developing a new fighter jet that people like you aren't complaining about.

  19. Better check with Honda first by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    if they're OK by this.

  20. I am apalled by ebiederm · · Score: 1

    How terribly insensitive and how clueless can the whitehouse be?

  21. Please hack our data by futhermocker · · Score: 1

    AKA give us cool apps for free, nothnx

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  22. Lots of gems in this one. by hanshotfirst · · Score: 1

    They use the term "hacking" when they mean "coding". They use the term "Day" when they mean "weekend". They hope to have an event in a city in "all 50 states and territories". Someone is bad at geography, math, grammar, or a mix of the 3.

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  23. Re:Clever Clever by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1
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  24. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    Ideally, it's all lizards.

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  25. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by roccomaglio · · Score: 1

    I like roads too. The issue is what value are you getting for your money. I am very pleased if I get a great meal for $10. I expect the meal to be great if I pay $100. They build the roads argument makes sense if the government is only spending on building roads. I am sure that the federal government spending on road is not even a meaningful part of the federal budget. The question is are you getting the best value for your money? Would a smaller government give a greater value for the money? How about a larger government? What services/level of services does the government have to provide? This is not an all or nothing proposition.

  26. answered by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    What is a 'can-do American spirit'?

    It's the drunken approach congress, the executive and the judiciary take to unconstitutional legislation.

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  27. Re:May i ask... by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

    Evidently judging from comments here, something that used to happen in America's past.

    I'm working on an anti-gerrymander app that will help voters move into swing districts so make the practice obsolete.

  28. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    I would have thought, the even more paranoid, be careful out there, it's a trap would be even more relevant. FBI we need a list of all hackers, so we can decide which ones are the anarchistic criminals.

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  29. stealing ideas by Revek · · Score: 1

    I figure they are gonna steal the good ideas. You know, the ones they can get money for. I bet you wouldn't get a civil response if you showed them what their real problem is. Their inability to secure their low level infrastructure.

  30. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What happens in a democracy, not just the US, but in ANY democracy (or republic) is that the masses will inevitably push for higher taxes and more welfare and raid the treasury for their own personal gain. Since democracy at its essence is a popularity contest, the politicians will push for higher and higher taxes and more welfare.

    People have been saying this for a long time, it's why democracy was often limited to land owners, historically. In the US, basically the franchise has extended to all males since its inception, and the U.S. is hardly the most commie country in the world. But of course, it's hard to refute a proposition that simply states something is inevitable, since, after all, only a finite period has passed without it having any obvious evidence to support it.

    When productivity is punished, productive people will go elsewhere (see France) when productive people go elsewhere, the country goes into a decline (such as the Roman Empire/USSR) and eventually collapses.
     

    It's a free country, if people want to go, they can go. It's hard to be productive in an anarchy, so I'm not entirely sure how paying taxes constitutes punishment for being productive.

    Out of curiousity, exactly where did the fucking Romans migrate to? Gaul? Fucking Britannia? Egypt, because of the great wages on the construction jobs?

    Of course there was some migration out of the USSR, but not as much as your making it out to be, since they weren't really allowed to leave. Economic theories are debatable, the advisability of not nuking yourself is undisputed.

    I am responsible only for the actions and decisions I make. Not my neighbor's, not the government's, but mine and mine alone.

    So you seriously are an anarchist? I was just kind of tossing that out there earlier. Well, whether you're "responsible" for your neighbors actions or not, if your neighbor sticks a gun to your head and pulls the trigger you're going to be dead. If he has the choice through certain death through starvation, or possible death from the penal system for blowing your head off to take your stuff, he's going to blow your head off. Shit happens without regard to whether or not anybody is "responsible" for it.
    Anyhow, it's a free country. If you don't like it, you can leave. That's a much better deal than anyone got from the Soviets.

  31. Could we try "jacker"? by DoctorBonzo · · Score: 1

    Yeah, "hacker" is way too ambiguous.

    "Cracker" was used for a while to mean "malicious hacker", but has its own ambiguity since it's used as a sort-of black person's "N-word" for a white person. (whatever happened to "Ofay", by the way?)

    I'd suggest "jacker", from "jack in to a network in order to hi-jack it".

    And by analogy to Tim Leary's "Turn on, tune in, drop out" - "Jack in, jack out, jack off"

  32. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1

    Actually, I'd claim that roads are predominantly construction projects completed by private enterprises which the city, state and federal governments fund through taxation.

  33. Re:Apparently one Aaron Swartz was not enough. by HeckRuler · · Score: 1
    Did you know that your highschool social studies teacher was lieing to you?
    "Republic" just means they don't have a "king". It doesn't mean the people are represented. It's just a coinsodence of language that the two words seem similar.
    You know how we usually get in a huff about a topic and everyone galvanizes along two sides and it's a big sort of debate thing? Yeah, back in the day, one of those issues was whether or not we should have a king or we should have a republic.

    But anyway, no, your argument isn't coming from the right angle. You can't say the masses will always want more taxes. That's crazy. Who wants to pay more taxes? No, they want other people to pay more taxes. Especially when there's inequality and unfair advantage. So you should argue that, in a democracy, collective Peter will vote to tax/enslave/repress selective Paul. Of course, historically, democracies have been pretty good when it comes to the civil rights of minorities.... Eventually... I don't see how that's neccesarily part of a democratic system, but there's probably some sociological factors at play.

    I am responsible only for the actions and decisions I make. Not my neighbor's, not the government's, but mine and mine alone.

    And that's what separates a individualistic libertarian and the people who understand they live in and depend upon a socity. Bitch as much as you want, but you live in a democracy. Ultimately, YOU, in some small percentage, are the person in charge of all the laws and all the government. Don't like the shitty laws? Hate taxes and what it buys you? Do your civic duty, get political, and rally your neighbors to change it. Because we're all responsible for this. Together.