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EFF Moves To Nix Trademark On "Gaymer"
netbuzz writes "Spurred by the mark holder's cease and desist letter to Reddit's subreddit r/gaymer, the Electronic Frontier Foundation today officially petitioned the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to rescind its grant of a trademark registration on the word "gaymer". 'This registration should never have been granted,' said EFF Intellectual Property Director Corynne McSherry. 'Gaymer is a common term that refers to members of this vibrant gaming community, and we are happy to help them fight back and make sure the term goes back to the public domain where it belongs.'"
EFF is limp- wristed cock chugging faggots and data molestors
I thought everyone spellt it Gamer!?!?
What's so different about a gaymer compared to a gamer? Why the need to segregate gamers based on their personal sexuality? Do they prefer certain genres? Or just demand gay sex in the games they play?
- From a confused gamer
In the UK 'Gaymer' is a company that makes Cider. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaymer_Cider_Company
How do you call gamers that love cheese? There must be a word for that.
By being a free legal department for Reddit? Never donating to these jokers again. Strictly FSF from now on.
I couldn't care less if someone is gay or not. I'm kinda tired of hearing "gay this" and "gay that" and "fags this" and "fags that" all the time, too. I don't fucking care about other people's sexuality. I also don't care about heterosexuals and how proud someone is of banging a drunk chick that he picked up at a meat rack bar. None of this shit really matters. If people want to be gay and game, whatever, go for it. Gay people also drink water -- does the "God Hates Fags" crowd intend to stop drinking water because of that? Again, in the larger scheme of things....who cares about sexual orientation? I spend more time worrying about our real loss of freedoms and the massive debt, and about a hundred other things. I'm tired of hearing about how everyone is homophobic and I'm also tired of hearing about how gay marriage will cause the country to fall into the seas. WORRY ABOUT REAL SHIT, PEOPLE.
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Even ignoring the cesspool that is the twelve year olds of FPS games, no, we're not used to it.
MMOs are a prime example. Spend five minutes in one, and you'll see rampant homophobia, bigotry and sexism - ranging from the sadly accepted as tame (EVE Online, usually when one of the aforementioned twelve year olds is relieved of their poorly fitted ship) to making you wonder if you've logged into a fucking Klan meeting (Hi, raiding guilds of EverQuest 2, WoW, et cetera).
Gamers, like most psuedo-anonymous people on the Internets, are largely shitheads; shitheads who will never shut up about buttsex, women making sandwiches, or traps.
The tags looked like they said "Eff Games Yo"
If you want to see *really* abusive language and offensive comments concentrated into their purest form, go play an mmoRPG and try *Roleplaying*. Nothing gets the 12 yr old mentality for heaping offensive abuse on other players up more than encountering a roleplayer in a roleplaying game, believe me.
In Dark Age of Camelot we had 3 Roleplaying/PvP servers, with a specific set of rules intended to foster RP behavior. We also had some of the best PvPing in the game going. However, there were regularly people who would create a character on one of these RP servers (there were like 17 other servers they could have chosen instead) *solely* for the purpose of standing in a populated area and heaping abuse on anyone they found. I would say I appealed at least 1 person per play session typically for this sort of behavior. I just don't get it. Its not like I logged into the non-Rp servers to insult them for not choosing to roleplay, that would just be a massive waste of my time if nothing else. I can't imagine being so bored as to have nothing better to do that insult people I will never play with.
Now, I am not gay, but I can easily understand why those who are would group together to form their own community and avoid the abuse they probably get on a regular basis - or at least manage to avoid the typically offensive speech of the gamers around them.
I cannot really imagine wanting to claim a term that would focus that abuse on me though. That seems *to me* to smack of wanting a reason to get outraged and complain about. Still whatever fills your boots I suppose...
However I agree that online gamers are typically highly offensive and ignorant as a baseline behavior. Sure, some rise above that but they are the rarity, the vast, vast majority start at pig-ignorant and dig their way down from there. Admittedly this is mostly true only of RPGs that have a heavy PvP element to them. My wife plays LOTRO and it seems fairly mild, but then PvP there is a minor afterthought really.
"The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
.. and I've been gay for.. a while.
I heard about polymer, is that related in some way?
I played Lord of the Rings Online the most and was a casual raid leader (meaning I organized and ran raids for casual players where often the loot would go to someone who had a birthday or fought well or been really unlucky rather then loot tables, I also didn't care about levels or experience). They were somewhat popular and I was asked to lead other groups... and then found out that in the NON-PUG groups, getting people to talk was a LOT easier. In the PUG raids everyone had sound on but for some reason few had a microphone. Suddenly in the closed raids, most had. And high voices.
Turns out I had been gaming with a lot of women. And I mean a LOT. Some were raids were majority female but when I asked them to join a pug something became clear... they were willing to play BUT could I not reveal they were female.
I have had several discussions online and in the real world were I was told about the kind of abuse female players receive. And this is NOT the rage kind when someone just says "bitch" or the sexual innuendo. Women talk like that too. It were attacks that yes as the AC says, you would expect in Klan meeting. One type of attack is that women have no right to play the game... I mean seriously. WTF?
AND it is not just trolling, there are a lot of REAL misogynists online. They can't vent their putrid bile in real life because they would get beaten up but online they let go.
So... the women hide online and only reveal their gender if they feel safe. AND THAT IS NOT OKAY! If you think it is, then I hate your fucking guts and hope you die before spreading your diseased genes. Because THIS attitude is what fuels extremists by tolerating them. It is basically nothing else then "if you don't want to be raped, don't reveal your gender". It is YOUR kind that created the burkha.
People should be free to be who they are. Yes, there can be gentle ribbing like Q.I. makes fun of homosexuals and hetero's alike BUT that is NOT what gay and female gamers are talking about. Gay and female gamers don't want special regonizition, they simply want to be able to be who they are without getting attacked simply for speaking with a high voice.
And only a closet bigot would start an argument over whether they got the right to be who they are.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Why am I hearing it now for the first time?
when you can spend money instead on defending the proper use of made-up words that don't sound different from real words?
But unrelated-use trademarks, such as a restaurant called "Gaymer" run by Mr. Joe Gaymer, would be valid within their scopes.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
> "Spurred by the mark holder'scease and desist letter"
Good lord, how cheap. Looks like someone was profiteering by gayming the system.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
I can see why they'd want their own sandbox. I was thinking about joining a BF3 clan for the first time, started the app process and payments, then promptly withdrew after listening to the supposedly "mature gamers only" spewing epithets. Reading it on a chat window is one thing, listening to it when you're trying to aim is something completely different.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
This is nothing more than outright theft of another person's intellectual property by gay and lesbian activists in the same way they have attempted theft of other terms. (I'll leave making that list of those terms to the reader since this is obvious /. flamebait already.) How long before they also demand to own gaymer.com because they deserve it more? This is nothing more than the slow and indolent attempting to steal from the smart and quick what the former couldn't come up with on their own and needed someone else to point it out to them. I support the person who got there first keeping the trademark that they legally acquired and SHAME ON THE EFF for getting involved in this! No soup for them this quarter.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
What the fuck is so 'vibrant' about it? Or even 'good' for that matter? Did you miss the part where these assholes trademarked a nickname to describe their gay gamer selves?
Imagine the word we were talking about was "Nerd", and a completely diff group.........yeah.
I try to be a straight shooter...
What's up with this box everyone has to think inside of or outside of? Why does there have to be a box?
> although I think we're all in agreement that pedophiles are awful, ... ... in the same way that rapists are awful: it is a one-way relationship. Were it more often a two-way relationship, it would not be socially abhorrent. Homosexuality was (and for many people still is) abhorrent, but it is acceptable because of the (most common) nature of the relationship.
> but at that point it's not preference but illness.
It is both.... That the preference shows elements of psychopathology and cognitive distortion (self delusion) makes it an illness.
But regardless of how it is classified, it is not socially acceptable.
IMO, a large variety of socially unacceptable behaviors are classified as "illness" to excuse our attempting to alter them based on how society views the behavior. It wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was a similar "illness". We treat this sort of "illness" more often from OUR desires rather than from those of the "sufferer".
Who are these cretins who attempt to steal commonly used trademarks? I guess this proves the business world is filled full of very low IQ sharks. Clearly, there are loads of morons who honestly believe the law is a crap shoot, and anything is possible in court.
The laws that are constructed to cover the practice of business exist to prevent chaos. Chaos is seen as anti-business. So any business person dumb enough to think the courts will be on his side when he attempts to circumvent the law, and pull a fast one, will be slapped down hard and fast.
The courts will NEVER allow a thief to steal that which belongs to others, just because the thief thinks he appears more 'business like' than the victim. And yet, this is the same basis of this ploy every time it is tried. It is funny how I, and others, can call the result of such cases with 100% accuracy, yet these losers will always allow some bent lawyer to persuade them they have a chance in court.
Also in consideration of refutation:
PlayHer
HimHimORPG
FPenis
Pro-Grammar
Opti-Call Media
HackHer
Best Bi
Amarriedcan
Vaginerd
PrograMen
PedoFiles
Gaymer is a cider.. That's all I have in this! As it was probably the name of a cider before this term was being used on reddit etc
wait, so when "gaymers" play Counter-Strike what are they saying instead of "fag" over and over?
Hummm... I live in Cumberland - I never thought of my town that way.
It's America, so he'll be up for execution?
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